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You got a weapon and a power to ignore what survivors usually use to protect themselves, BUT NOOO, they didn't think of giving the killer a chance to kill.GT_Legend2 said:
They didmt think of giving the killer a chance for kills, not that survivors shouldn’t have a chance to escapeAvariku said:"we made him the way he is to give survivors a CHANCE to escape."
you're mad they gave survivors a "chance"?
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@RaccoonRaccoon said:
Just hit or grab them before they make a save...All 3 of them.Tsulan said:Cool, now endgame saves are guaranteed to succeed. Combine this with the short immunity featu... uhm I mean "bug" and killers can finally stand in a corner after all gens have been done.
Oh so you want to trade one hook for 3 hooks? Awesome.
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Yes, they can rescue, but the rescuer will fall because there's not enough time to get hit, unhook and escape.Orion said:@Vietfox said:
Breaking news, hit the others or grab them while performing the rescue.Hit, and they can rescue, thus triggering BT. Because the grab can be cancelled before the animation actually ends, there's only one Killer that can reliably grab them (the Doctor), meaning that you'll likely hit them, thus allowing them to rescue, thus triggering BT.
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@OrionOrion said:@Vietfox said:
Breaking news, not camping prevents BT from triggering.Breaking news, hookswarming triggers BT regardless of what the Killer does.
More breaking news, you already knew this and were being disingenuous.
Breaking news, hit the others or grab them while performing the rescue. -
Breaking news, not camping prevents BT from triggering.
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Does Everyone Happen to be Playing The Legion Wrong?
Probably, at least all the ones complaining too soon. -
I don't get all this crying about bbq, i only use it if i need more bloodpoints asap.
I always go check the gens since i gotta keep the map pressure, i don't really care if someone is close by.
About aftercare, i think i read it goes off when you get hooked. -
No no, that's a lame excuse. You gotta keep playing!!@George_Soros said:
- RL reasons (house on fire, etc)
To the OP: when i got green ping in the lobby and as soon as the match starts i teleport like a nurse.
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1 - it's not impossible, if you are so desperate for 4K just slug.It's started making four kills impossible and it's getting to the point I physically get to angry to play killer
2 - get some help, it's not healthy to get that angry over a video game. -
@akbays35akbays35 said:@Delfador said:
It seems he has insane snowball potential.
The only problem is that splitting and doing generators alone is a very hard counter. I actually don't know what I can do if people split up.
I will wait for good killers' streams to see his potential better (zubat for example)zubat makes any killer seem decent, Hexy puts her below clown and pig. Playing her on the PTB is frustrating to say the least, it's as bad as playing Pig.
So the game should be balanced around mediocre players? That's not what killer mains think about the depip squad. -
@MasterMaster said:@thesuicidefox said:
"Hiding inside of lockers now blocks the auras of Survivors while they are inside."So when someone goes down just hide in a locker until 4 seconds after they are hooked. EZ.
I only pick BBQ for the double BP.
But of course this will have implications on the gameplay.
If I have no aura to chase..... mhm well you can figure that out yourself
Maybe go check gens? -
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@friendlykillermainfriendlykillermain said:@Vietfox said:
Ihatelife said:@Vietfox said:
Does nurse's calling reveal survivors auras while mending?
I tried and no doesn't reveal. Same with botany knowledge
@Ihatelife
Thank god, that would be so broken.it would actually be more fair then what we have now
You havent thought about it clearly enough, picture this.
New killer puts survivor on the deep wounds state, these are the options:
1 - killer catches the survivor eventually, that's fine.
2 - killer loses the survivor, survivors mend themselves and killer easily finds the survivor thanks to nurses.
3 - killer loses the survivor, survivors don't mend themselves because killer has nurses. Survivors are put on the dying state and send a notification to the killer about their location.
New killer + nurses guarantees the hook no matter what. -
This suggestion reminds me a lot of State of decay
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@IhatelifeIhatelife said:@Vietfox said:
Does nurse's calling reveal survivors auras while mending?I tried and no doesn't reveal. Same with botany knowledge
Thank god, that would be so broken. -
Does nurse's calling reveal survivors auras while mending?
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I'm not surprised. About people bitching so early about the new content i mean of course
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Also, can nurses calling reveal survivors healing from deep wounds?
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How often will be used Discordance?
I mean, the problem for killers is survivors doing different gens. This perk will encourage survivors to not work on the same gen together. -
The irony is strong right nowiceman2kx said:@Vietfox said:
iceman2kx said:@ConsoleNurse said:
No git gud.Watch zubatlel or scottjund
These types of comments are just redundant. You picked arguable the two best Huntress players to compare to. Both have a ridiculous amount of hours, like 4000. Of course they are gonna be good.
@iceman2kx
Ok so it's fine to balance the game around the depip squad level but not around good killers. Good to know!Are you familiar with a strawman argument? Really you should look it up.
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Mother Russia
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@purebalancepurebalance said:@Vietfox said:
purebalance said:@Visionmaker said:
@Master said: @DwightsLifeMatters said: Lol funny, the killer main community was asking since years to give them an indication that they face swf groups to equip themselves better for it (others just simply dodge). However, the last indication they had is gone. Whatever, I think as a solo I can benefit from that in the long run. I got dodged a lot of times just for the reason that I joined the looby simultaneously with other randoms. The question is whether it is desireable to give no indication for SWF at all.
As long as DCing isnt punished properly, killers last resort is a DC vs SWF
Well, you can answer it yourself. What does the matchmaking change aim to achieve: equalized queue times or killers' desire to exclusively play versus 4 solos?
Given that it removes the killer's ability to abuse lobby dodging to avoid SWF (but still not any other reason like dodging lobbies with survivors using too many items, having too many hours, having troll-y names, streamers, wearing paid cosmetics, using certain characters, etc.), I think it is fair to address last second switching next.
So when survivors lobby dodged to ENSURE they got with their friends SWF was created. When killers dodge to avoid them they stop it.
@purebalance
Wrong. Devs said already that SWF was always an intended feature.Doesn't matter if it was or wasn't. When they were dodging to ensure it, they should have canceled the idea. So sorry, but you're the wrong one. Their reasoning of not removing now even though they admit it breaks the game is people will dodge until they get their friends.
My point is 100% accurate and stands.
You suggested that swf was created because of survivors lobbydodging, and that's wrong no matter how you see it. How can i be wrong about something that devs have confirmed already??
You might like or not, but you can't say i'm wrong lol.
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@purebalancepurebalance said:@Visionmaker said:
@Master said:
@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Lol funny, the killer main community was asking since years to give them an indication that they face swf groups to equip themselves better for it (others just simply dodge).
However, the last indication they had is gone.
Whatever, I think as a solo I can benefit from that in the long run. I got dodged a lot of times just for the reason that I joined the looby simultaneously with other randoms.The question is whether it is desireable to give no indication for SWF at all.
As long as DCing isnt punished properly, killers last resort is a DC vs SWFWell, you can answer it yourself. What does the matchmaking change aim to achieve: equalized queue times or killers' desire to exclusively play versus 4 solos?
Given that it removes the killer's ability to abuse lobby dodging to avoid SWF (but still not any other reason like dodging lobbies with survivors using too many items, having too many hours, having troll-y names, streamers, wearing paid cosmetics, using certain characters, etc.), I think it is fair to address last second switching next.
So when survivors lobby dodged to ENSURE they got with their friends SWF was created. When killers dodge to avoid them they stop it.
Wrong. Devs said already that SWF was always an intended feature. -
@DwightsLifeMattersDwightsLifeMatters said:
You really think I care about the others escaping in this situation ?Vietfox said:I mean, spam it is completely useless so you might get banned for it, but i love it when they do it and there are other survivors alive. I'm like: "hell yes, spam mori on me and waste time while others finish the gens "
Doesnt happen often though.
Maybe u dont, but i rather die than giving 4K to the killer. -
I mean, spam it is completely useless so you might get banned for it, but i love it when they do it and there are other survivors alive. I'm like: "hell yes, spam mori on me and waste time while others finish the gens "
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@CetrenCetren said:
Yeah it might take a while for one survivor to cleanse the totems, but there's the same problem with gens, theres four survivors. By your own logic FOUR of the totems would be cleasend in 14 seconds, completely nullify ingredients a killers perk for almost non effort from the survivors.Vietfox said:
@EntityDispleasedEntityDispleased said:Do you really need an incentive to take 14 seconds out of your time to cleanse that dull totem you just passed by? They're not going to give you any incentives or beg you to cleanse those dull totems because in the end it's for your own survival and you can't blame anyone but yourself if you go down to noed.
14 secs for each totem plus the time you run from one totem to another.
This change would benefit many killer mains who complain about genrushing.
Ok let's assume that all 4 survivors will look for totems (huehue), that would still counter genrush. They need to look for them, cleanse them, 1 or 2 would need to leave them because killer is getting closer, etc... -
@VisionmakerVisionmaker said:@apropos said:
I didn't realize that many people dodged SWF. How does anyone know... I mean, can't a regular group of randoms all appear at the same time as well?I've had so many times killers think that I was playing in SWF when there were actually 4 solos. I've also had plenty times where I thought it was a 4 stack, when in actuality, it's 2 team SWF at most with 2 consistently matched solos.
Honestly, it's often an excuse for killers to jump to when they do badly/have a bad game.
Happens so often, I've got many pms from killers telling me "noob swfs" and stuff. Funny thing is that i was running perks that would make no sense to run with swf. -
@EntityDispleasedEntityDispleased said:Do you really need an incentive to take 14 seconds out of your time to cleanse that dull totem you just passed by? They're not going to give you any incentives or beg you to cleanse those dull totems because in the end it's for your own survival and you can't blame anyone but yourself if you go down to noed.
14 secs for each totem plus the time you run from one totem to another.
This change would benefit many killer mains who complain about genrushing. -
Nice change!
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Truth has been spoken.ScottJund said:@Poweas said:
At least they made her viable.
I'm sorry but if the only way you could win with Huntress was with instathrow, you are just a bad Huntress and your opinion of her is obviously not accurate or supported by enough experience.
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@iceman2kxiceman2kx said:@ConsoleNurse said:
No git gud.Watch zubatlel or scottjundThese types of comments are just redundant. You picked arguable the two best Huntress players to compare to. Both have a ridiculous amount of hours, like 4000. Of course they are gonna be good.
Ok so it's fine to balance the game around the depip squad level but not around good killers. Good to know! -
This might be the place for you:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/18783/the-meme-pit/p1
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If you had invested the time this thread took you on playing dbd you would have those 7K bps back already (plus some more).friendlykillermain said:im still waiting bhvr
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I think i've never seen 4 calm spirit users in my life. Actually it's quite hard to see 1 using it.
No, if survivors took their chances, picked calm spirit and they were lucky enough to face a doctor while running that perk it's fine, deal with it. -
It is, gives you a lot of information to you and the others which honestly it's the only thing i personally need when playing solo.Edilibs said:@Vietfox said:
Kindred / Bond / Open handed
Spirit fury / Enduring
Pharmacy / Ace in the holeSpirit Fury/ Enduring seems to be a more common Meta. That Kindred, Bond and Open Handed seems pretty good
If u get camped killer's aura will be shown to others within a 16 meters range instead of 8 thanks to open handed, and if someone is coming to rescue you the others will know they gotta keep doing gens. Open handed will increase the range of bond as well, which is nice since u can see survivors from far and guess what's going on around you.
4th perk slot is up to u, but since i got bond and healing got nerfed i rather not run SC and look for teammates to heal me instead.
Edit: btw, if someone else is running open handed killer's aura will be shown when standing within 24 meters from the hook, doesn't stack further than that. -
Kindred / Bond / Open handed
Spirit fury / Enduring
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They can't post as often as they used to and cannot create discussions.
The jail ban last for 1 week, 1 month if you were jailed before. -
You as well apparently, but as i said i just give up.friendlykillermain said:@Vietfox said:
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@Vietfox said: friendlykillermain said:
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@Vietfox said: @Orion @friendlykillermain Guys, read everything i said: 2 of us were doing gens, the other 2 the totems because killer felt like camping them, so we used that against him as a distraction, it's called STRATEGY. Killer DCed because we eventually destroyed his totems, not because were were BM, especially since we weren't. And yes, i can find something hilarious while playing efficiently at the same time. its called being a DOUCHE dont toy with killers just do gens and leave as soon as gate is opened dont make our life more hell than it already is @friendlykillermain
So killers camping survivors are douches as well? only if its holding the game hostage @friendlykillermain
Well, we weren't holding the game hostage either since the other 2 were doing gens. We were buying time so the other 2 can finish them.
This is how it works:
Killer is commited to protect the totems.
Okay, 2 of us will do gens. The 3rd one will get the totem and the 4th will get it while the 3rd one is being chased.
Killer leaves the 3rd survivor to protect the totem. Repeat.
It's a tactic, not being a douche.
say whatever helps you sleep better my opinion will not be wavered
Ok, i guess tactics are fine only if killers are the ones using them, gotcha.
what you were doing were not tactics they were a form of bullying and toying with the poor killer
OMG what a bunch of snowflakes. You won, i give up!
just take a good look at what you did ok put on the killer skin and walk around in it really put yourself in the mindset we should be making this game better for other players then just ourselves all of us are entitled to at least a little but not at the expense of others
First of all, it wouldnt happen to me because trying to protect the totem at all costs is dumb, especially if the killer is rank 1.
I play as a killer as well and i hardly get bothered by many of the usual complaints from known killer mains.
and you completely missed the point
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First of all, it wouldnt happen to me because trying to protect the totem at all costs is dumb, especially if the killer is rank 1.friendlykillermain said:@Vietfox said:
friendlykillermain said:@Vietfox said:
friendlykillermain said:
@Vietfox said: friendlykillermain said:
@Vietfox said: friendlykillermain said:
@Vietfox said: @Orion @friendlykillermain Guys, read everything i said: 2 of us were doing gens, the other 2 the totems because killer felt like camping them, so we used that against him as a distraction, it's called STRATEGY. Killer DCed because we eventually destroyed his totems, not because were were BM, especially since we weren't. And yes, i can find something hilarious while playing efficiently at the same time. its called being a DOUCHE dont toy with killers just do gens and leave as soon as gate is opened dont make our life more hell than it already is @friendlykillermain
So killers camping survivors are douches as well? only if its holding the game hostage @friendlykillermain
Well, we weren't holding the game hostage either since the other 2 were doing gens. We were buying time so the other 2 can finish them.
This is how it works:
* Killer is commited to protect the totems.
Okay, 2 of us will do gens. The 3rd one will get the totem and the 4th will get it while the 3rd one is being chased.
Killer leaves the 3rd survivor to protect the totem. Repeat.
It's a tactic, not being a douche.
say whatever helps you sleep better my opinion will not be wavered
Ok, i guess tactics are fine only if killers are the ones using them, gotcha.
what you were doing were not tactics they were a form of bullying and toying with the poor killer
OMG what a bunch of snowflakes. You won, i give up!
just take a good look at what you did ok put on the killer skin and walk around in it really put yourself in the mindset we should be making this game better for other players then just ourselves all of us are entitled to at least a little but not at the expense of others
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OMG what a bunch of snowflakes. You won, i give up!friendlykillermain said:@Vietfox said:
friendlykillermain said:@Vietfox said:
friendlykillermain said:
@Vietfox said: friendlykillermain said:
@Vietfox said: @Orion @friendlykillermain Guys, read everything i said: 2 of us were doing gens, the other 2 the totems because killer felt like camping them, so we used that against him as a distraction, it's called STRATEGY. Killer DCed because we eventually destroyed his totems, not because were were BM, especially since we weren't. And yes, i can find something hilarious while playing efficiently at the same time. its called being a DOUCHE dont toy with killers just do gens and leave as soon as gate is opened dont make our life more hell than it already is @friendlykillermain
So killers camping survivors are douches as well? only if its holding the game hostage @friendlykillermain
Well, we weren't holding the game hostage either since the other 2 were doing gens. We were buying time so the other 2 can finish them.
This is how it works:
* Killer is commited to protect the totems.
* Okay, 2 of us will do gens. The 3rd one will get the totem and the 4th will get it while the 3rd one is being chased.
* Killer leaves the 3rd survivor to protect the totem. Repeat.It's a tactic, not being a douche.
say whatever helps you sleep better my opinion will not be wavered
@friendlykillermain
Ok, i guess tactics are fine only if killers are the ones using them, gotcha.what you were doing were not tactics they were a form of bullying and toying with the poor killer
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@friendlykillermainfriendlykillermain said:@Vietfox said:
friendlykillermain said:@Vietfox said:
friendlykillermain said:
@Vietfox said: @Orion @friendlykillermain Guys, read everything i said: 2 of us were doing gens, the other 2 the totems because killer felt like camping them, so we used that against him as a distraction, it's called STRATEGY. Killer DCed because we eventually destroyed his totems, not because were were BM, especially since we weren't. And yes, i can find something hilarious while playing efficiently at the same time. its called being a DOUCHE dont toy with killers just do gens and leave as soon as gate is opened dont make our life more hell than it already is @friendlykillermain
So killers camping survivors are douches as well?
only if its holding the game hostage
@friendlykillermain
Well, we weren't holding the game hostage either since the other 2 were doing gens. We were buying time so the other 2 can finish them.
This is how it works:- Killer is commited to protect the totems.
- Okay, 2 of us will do gens. The 3rd one will get the totem and the 4th will get it while the 3rd one is being chased.
- Killer leaves the 3rd survivor to protect the totem. Repeat.
It's a tactic, not being a douche.
say whatever helps you sleep better my opinion will not be wavered
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@friendlykillermainfriendlykillermain said:@Vietfox said:
friendlykillermain said:@Vietfox said:
Guys, read everything i said: 2 of us were doing gens, the other 2 the totems because killer felt like camping them, so we used that against him as a distraction, it's called STRATEGY.
Killer DCed because we eventually destroyed his totems, not because were were BM, especially since we weren't.
And yes, i can find something hilarious while playing efficiently at the same time.
its called being a DOUCHE dont toy with killers just do gens and leave as soon as gate is opened dont make our life more hell than it already is
@friendlykillermain
So killers camping survivors are douches as well?only if its holding the game hostage
Well, we weren't holding the game hostage either since the other 2 were doing gens. We were buying time so the other 2 can finish them.
This is how it works:
- Killer is commited to protect the totems.
- Okay, 2 of us will do gens. The 3rd one will get the totem and the 4th will get it while the 3rd one is being chased.
- Killer leaves the 3rd survivor to protect the totem. Repeat.
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1 - Not as many as local servers, that's why most games got dedicated servers. If you are playing a mp game and they let you to choose which one would you pick, local or dedicated? Gimme a break pls.Malakir said:
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@friendlykillermainfriendlykillermain said:@Vietfox said:
@Orion @friendlykillermain
Guys, read everything i said: 2 of us were doing gens, the other 2 the totems because killer felt like camping them, so we used that against him as a distraction, it's called STRATEGY.
Killer DCed because we eventually destroyed his totems, not because were were BM, especially since we weren't.
And yes, i can find something hilarious while playing efficiently at the same time.its called being a DOUCHE dont toy with killers just do gens and leave as soon as gate is opened dont make our life more hell than it already is
So killers camping survivors are douches as well?
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@Orion @friendlykillermain
Guys, read everything i said: 2 of us were doing gens, the other 2 the totems because killer felt like camping them, so we used that against him as a distraction, it's called STRATEGY.
Killer DCed because we eventually destroyed his totems, not because were were BM, especially since we weren't.
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@OrionOrion said:@Vietfox said:
Wait, i've seen you saying "this is pvp game, i'm not here to make their game fun". Funny you apparently do it only for one side.
As i said before, we took turns because he kept coming over. Any killer with enough brain would know that the best way to prevent survivors from surviving is to stop them from doing gens, not camping the totems, especially against swf.
It was his fault regardless of what you think, period.There's a difference between actively and purposefully making the game not fun for someone and passively and unintentionally not making the game fun for someone. The former is what you did - you wanted to troll him, nothing more. The latter is what many people complain about when the other side doesn't play by their made-up rules.
You were trolling him. You are part of the problem.
We were doing gens meanwhile, we were willing to finish the game. You would be right if we all 4 were tapping the totems, but we weren't. Creating a diversion IS part of the strategy. -
@OrionOrion said:@Vietfox said:
As i said, we took turns so the other 2 can finish the gens, it's called playing smart.
You know when you guys say camping is rewarding thanks to all those altruistic survivors? This is exactly the same situation. It was rewarding for us because the killer kept trying to protect the totems.
If you still think i was toying with him i suggest you to go to all those threads about camping/bodyblocking the basement stairs and support them as well.I think you were toying with him because of what you said. You didn't do it because you needed to; you did it because you thought it was funny to troll him. You thought it was funny to make someone's game so unfun that they end up disconnecting.
You are part of the problem.
Wait, i've seen you saying "this is a pvp game, i'm not here to make their game fun". Funny you apparently do it only for one side.
As i said before, we took turns because he kept coming over. Any killer with enough brain would know that the best way to prevent survivors from surviving is to stop them from doing gens, not camping the totems, especially against swf.
It was his fault regardless of what you think, period.
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@OrionOrion said:@Vietfox said:
It was his fault to camp the totems and we took advantage of it, nothing wrong with that.
I never camp the totems because it's stupid to expect them to be there the whole match.
If he had chased us instead of camping them he would had had better results.Yes, it's his fault you decided to toy with him just because you could and because you knew there was nothing he could do about it (i.e.: you decided to be abusive).
You are part of the problem, period.
As i said, we took turns so the other 2 can finish the gens, it's called playing smart.
You know when you guys say camping is rewarding thanks to all those altruistic survivors? This is exactly the same situation. It was rewarding for us because the killer kept trying to protect the totems.
If you still think i was toying with him i suggest you to go to all those threads about camping/bodyblocking the basement stairs and support them as well.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SBeYzoQPbu8