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Stand still at a pallet and watch what they do. A lot of survivors aren't sure if you're phase walking or not.
If they run away - phase walk and pursue
If they think your phase walking, they might jump over
If they stand there unsure then I tend to phase walk around.
Also invest in a good pair of headphones if you can afford it. It will make a huge difference.
A perk that I think is great on her is Nurse's calling. I've spotted people so many times with this. Then you can phase walk over to them and tjey have no idea you're coming. -
Well curtain call was summer which is normally quiet. Its near christmas now so a lot of big games are out. Maybe people are just playing other things at the moment?
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No survivors stopped playing because killers kept camping. It was dull.No_Cluie_Louis said:@AntiJelly said:
@No_Cluie_Louis said:
Anyone else noticed that killers have to wait 10+ minutes for a game? I sure have, and i don't know if any of you have noticed, but it isn't down to a glitchy matchmaking system, as that would slow survivor ques too. The reason is all the recent survivor nerfs / killer buffs. Constant complaining from a lot of killer mains has led to these changes, and sure, they may seem fair for killers, but the game should be unfair for killers. There's 4 players on one team, and one player on the other, so you need only 20% of players to actually want to play killer to get an even waiting time and fast ques. Instead killers just complained and complained, rather than trying to get better at the game, and now we have a bunch of idiots playing killer, no one playing survivor, and a broken game where no one can play how they like. I always said to stop moaning survivors were op, but all i got called was salty survivor main. Now look where you've got us...Oh? So where's all of your proof for this? Where's all of the data you have of amount of players playing killer vs survivor huh? Or did you just make this up?
I'm sorry but have you read any other posts on these forums. I don't even play survivor hence my salt, but i know that many survivors stopped playing because it was too hard, especially for the new ones. Meanwhile SWF still escape every game because they nerfed solo survivors not SWF
Also after rank reset you get teamed with potatoes and nobody can be bothered with that. -
Freddy is getting reworked anyway.
Besides, self-care and adrenaline hit freddy harder than any other killer. It's only fair that he gets to be stronger against a perk. -
Yeah footsteps are definitely quieter. Havent had as many issues with groans of pain though.
Hopefully the fixes come sooner rather than later. -
Lol nice fiction.MhhBurgers said:The answer to camping would be nerfing DS but most killers are fed up and after the first d-strike will facecamp survivors. Rightfully so btw
Many, many people get camped who don't have DS. The fact is some people just don't care or are too lazy or incompetent to play any other way so they just sit on their first hook. -
But you have to put up with a lot of ######### to get to those purple ranks. Camping, camping and more camping. It feels like a chore.Speshul_Kitten said:Dude chill out, the rank reset has put you to play with noobs on both sides. Once you get passed the green ranks and head into the purple range you’ll have more competent teammates and killers. -
Yeah I've seen killers wildly swinging from the other side of a room before. I'm thinking "#########? I'm about 12m away from you"
Next thing you do I go down. Killers have telekinetic powers now it seems. -
But when you find the pro survivors in games, the 2000+ hours survivors, those guys can be hard to get even with spirit. With Legion it's much easier. Then you just moonwalk to them while they're mending.
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He feels really weak but once you get used to him the results aren't that bad.
I think buffs need to be considered carefully. He isn't as weak as people think.
If they go ahead with the buff where it only takes 3 frenzy hits to down people he could become the most annoying killer. There would be no escaping. -
Survivors when I'm playing killer
https://youtu.be/zHC3uvzcfV0
Survivors when I'm playing survivor
https://youtu.be/opoLIH_c6mc
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Can't see voice chat ever being pleasant in this game.Cymer said:Not gonna happen!
It would split the player base even more and the queuetimes getting longer.
Maybe we need to rephrase rank into score so people stop thinking overcompetitive of the game.
I just wish the devs find a way to close the gap between the solo survivors and the swfs and also let the killer join the fun, like in Last Year as example. By letting the killer join the voicecom it becomes more fair to everyone and the killer can laugh along with the survivors.
- Killer hooks survivor
- Camps
"Stop camping noob"
"Omg go away go die of cancer you ****"
"Lolololol stop rushing the hook then crybabies"
"Will you ******* stop trying to save me and just rush gens"
"**** You blame the killer"
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You're half right.
Setting up a trap as hag or trapper in the right spot and herding a survivor into it takes skill and planning
Blinking and landing an amazing hit as the nurse takes skill.
Landing that perfect hatchet shot as huntress takes skill
Pressing M2 to frenzy and then being able to vault obstacles and repeatedly mash m1 to hit a survivor takes no skill. That's why it's not rewarding. Then waiting for them to go down after you've hit them is just bland. Compare that to landing 2 hard hatchet shots as huntress where you're trying to throw where you think the survivors are going to run to.
Legion is a nub killer. -
If you couldn't self-mend he would be OP.
What happens when there are only 2 survivors left? Or even 3?
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Maybe they shouldn't be promoting people who do things they don't want players doing.MhhBurgers said:@The_Crusader said:
And lets not forget that Jendenise is one of their fog whisperers yet is known for disconnecting. Guess its ok to break the rules as long as you have twitch followers. Behaviour will even promote you for doing so.
Yes, welcome to life. Rich people also rarely go to jail, what's new?
Oh but no, gotta have the game trending on twitch.
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And yet I've received lots of offensive insults from killer mains, things clearly against the rules, reported them and nothing has been done. It's almost as if there's a bias?Orion said:@The_Crusader said:
Haha I see you got warned for the D/C talk too.Great company behaviour is. Defend campers despite your own forum and reddit being plagued with threads about people saying they can't play survivor anymore because the camping is getting out of control.
That will surely be good for the longterm health of the game. Silence those who call it out to sweep it under the rug and pretend it will be ok. I'm sure the camping problem will just sort itself out.
Meanwhile everytime a new game comes out similar in design people are hoping ts good so they can jump ship to get away from all the issues DBD has. I wonder why that is....
One (DC) is against the rules. The other (camping) isn't. Yes, they punish people for breaking the rules.
And lets not forget that Jendenise is one of their fog whisperers yet is known for disconnecting. Guess its ok to break the rules as long as you have twitch followers. Behaviour will even promote you for doing so. -
Haha I see you got warned for the D/C talk too.ReneAensland said:Playing killer at the moment is such a [BAD WORD] #########.
Haddonfield is darker, the basements are darker, there is so much glare.
I'm on a 4k TV and this new update is #########.
Great company behaviour is. Defend campers despite your own forum and reddit being plagued with threads about people saying they can't play survivor anymore because the camping is getting out of control.
That will surely be good for the longterm health of the game. Silence those who call it out to sweep it under the rug and pretend it will be ok. I'm sure the camping problem will just sort itself out.
Meanwhile everytime a new game comes out similar in design people are hoping ts good so they can jump ship to get away from all the issues DBD has. I wonder why that is.... -
I'll assume you mean when you upvote orion and not me😋Wolf74 said:I know that feeling.^^
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Patrol and proxy camping at strategic times is ok, but if its done on the first hook every game then guess what? Its just as lame as face camping. We once again end up with a situation where the first survivor on the hook ends up never being able to get away since the killer won't leave the area, which makes the game awful for them and boring for everyone else whose sat holding M1 on a gen.Nikkiwhat said:"Killers who get sweaty"
Pffff, Using that unironically is pretty hilarious.
Your other points are easily rebutted
-Patrol and Proxy camping are fine, esp with all the aura hiding with lockers and Distortion, Killers are going to assume or err on the side of caution that if they Hook someone and see no other auras via BBQ, that at least one other Survivor is nearby....no-one is guaranteed a free unhook. Not to mention if a Killer notices a SWF or overtly altruistic group, to expect people to run over....not even remotely the Killers fault...stop acting like we should turn a blind eye
Facecamping from the get-go/start is the ONLY tactic I won't defend
-Not our job or fault if your teammates DC, I always personally give a rule of thumb that if two DC at the start I attempt a farm match, or if DCs happen throughout to do the same or just give Hatch...but to chastise Killers that don't is laughable, some rather move on and play a full game.
-Survivors that potato, it happens with everyone who plays this game. You can either accept it or move on. This again doesn't fall to the Killers to give leniency for bad plays or lack of skill. Don't forget gamers of all types play this, young old, disabled and ones who just can't grasp the higher strategies/tactics.
The only caveat I will ever give is that if a Killer DCs, full points you've earned up till that point and a quitter bonus and keeping your items should be given...
Not survivors fault if teammates D/C. The devs need to sort this. Also yes if a killer camps/slugs for a 4k against a team that got shafted by only 3 spawning in or 1 disconnecting 30 seconds into thr game then that person is pathetic.
Survivors that potato....never blamed this on the killer. Not even blaming the survivors, they can't help it. It just sucks gettig hit with rank reset so you get matched with these people. If you don't play survivor a lot to keep on top of it and keep hitting high rank then you get screwed. Low rank survivor is not enjoyable solo. -
Oh man I had to upvote you for that. I feel dirtyOrion said:Nope.
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I think they should wait on buffs.
He feels weak as hell but the results some people are getting indicate otherwise. Even at red ranks.
If he is buffed in some ways then he may need to be nerfed in others. -
Killers rank up faster than survivors anyway, especially solo survivors. If it was easier for survivors to earn double pips I'm sure rank 1 wouldn'r be as bad.
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I agree completely.
- You get put on a hook and then some tool just circles around you over and over again while your fellow survivors sit nearby gawping at you.
- They end up getting camped on a hook, while you rush gens but your other two survivors just sit there staring at the person on the hook, then unhook them anyway letting the killer kill them faster.
- Survivors who go down first then disconnect a minute into the game when they miss their DS screwing over the other survivors. (be interesting to see if these people keep playing once DS is gone)
- People who are absolute potatoes. The killer wipes them both out in 10 seconds. They try to bodyblock when the killer is 5 inches feom the hook....why? Then they go down too. Or they stand next to each other against a tier 3 myers and make no effort to run away.
- Killers who get sweaty for the 4k and slug even if people D/C. Look if everyone payed well and you truly outplayed us I don't mind this. However ehen you get handed a victory by only 3 people loading in or someone disconnecting you don't deserve ######### and this just makes you look like a desperate pile of excrement.
Its rare that you actually get good games where everyone plays well and makes an effort. I don't even mind losing, just give me a good game first. The camping is the worst part though, some nights its every single game. -
Bugs aside the game is ok, it's just the comminity that's bad.
Killers who just circle around the first person they hook endlessly, survivors who come in only to bug the killer then disconnect when they go down ######### over everyone else in the game, or just people trying to be as toxic as possible in general. -
Yeah it's a shame. I use Bond and I can see who has been doing nothing all game.
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Lol no, exhaustion perks WRECK Legion.
Having said that, after my own results game afer game after game and seeing some streamers too, I'm not so sure that Legion is as weak as we first thought.
In fact I'd pick him over killers like Trapper or Doctor at the moment. -
I'd like Claudette's head mounted on the wall.
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Yes, nerf the corn please.
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The game is either balanced around solo or it's balanced around SWF. It can't be balanced for both. The devs need to specify which it is. Either solo is at a disadvantage or swf has a big advantage, or is it somewhere in the middle and both are true?
I don't really mind 2 man swf and I get a lot of them but 3-4 people on comms definitely wrecks some killers who rely on stealth such as Myers and Pig. Plus the sheer amount of co-ordination on the gens makes it hard for most killers to keep up. -
Nowhere near to the same degree.MhhBurgers said:@The_Crusader said:
Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
The_Crusader said:
Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:Didn't read much of this, but did you ever think maybe the killer was just defending his kill? Should he just run away and close his eyes and let you go?
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Killers can defend the hook if they want to. OP seems to think they shouldn't.
By defend the hook you mean "put person on hook and circle around them over and over again".
It's toxic, it's lame and it ruins the game for everyone else.
SWF is also lame and ruins the game for killers yet here we are dude.
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By defend the hook you mean "put person on hook and circle around them over and over again".Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
Killers can defend the hook if they want to. OP seems to think they shouldn't.The_Crusader said:
🤨Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:Didn't read much of this, but did you ever think maybe the killer was just defending his kill? Should he just run away and close his eyes and let you go?
It's toxic, it's lame and it ruins the game for everyone else. -
Makes sense, lockers should be a double edged sword.
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What change is this?
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🤨Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:Didn't read much of this, but did you ever think maybe the killer was just defending his kill? Should he just run away and close his eyes and let you go? -
I haven't really noticed a difference. Seems about the same as any other killer.
In fact so far I've been getting more "gg wp" than usual. The matches go on longer too. -
Ok a lot do it.CrowS said:@The_Crusader said:
Killers kept camping and tunneling so I guess they had to buff it.The rest of us suffer because of those few crappy killers.
If it were only a "few" Killers, than it wouldn't really be a problem, and wouldn't require a buff.
If virtually EVERYONE had to do it and Survivors still make it 50% of the time, well ... that tell us something about Killers needing buffs.
Which one is it? Almost nobody does it, or it was necessary to get 50/50?
Sometimes it harms the killer sometimes it helps them. Depends on the survivors. Either waybits boring. -
Yes, just let people disconnect without penalty if only 3 load in. Nobody wants to play those kind of games.
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The problem with buffing survivor stealth is that survivor looping hasn't been nerfed in anyway.
So what happens when these stealthy survivors are caught? They go straight to looping.
So the looping to waste a killers time is the same, but now survivors find it easier to hide so they can waste the killers time even more. -
Does anyone have a YT video of all of them together? I can only find random ones scattered about.
Have they always had a new theme per dlc? Or it shis a more recent thing? -
I agree.
Besides legion shouldn't be the priority right now, the priority should be removing decisive strike from the game. Legion can wait. -
I knew you used Freddy! 😋
And I thought he was second worst now? Or is that still up for debate? -
This would make her power worthless though.
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This is what I mean about issues with the game.Nickenzie said:
Like I said in a previous thread, Lockers should prevent you AND the killer from reading each other's auras. This would balance lockers and make them more of a way to hide from the killer instead of them being a free aura reading machine.Crythor said:Why do you ask? Well multiple reasons actually:
- If you use object of obsession and are in a locker you can see the killers aura but he cant see yours.
- This is rediculus from balance perspective and makes it even easier to hold the game hostage.
- It nerfs a lot of perks and addons that dont need any nerf at all.
- While some will argue for a BBQ nerf (which promotes camping) which i openly admitt i am against it not only nerfs BBQ but also Bitter Murmur, Vanity Mirror and Scratched Mirror addons from myers which clearly dont need any nerf as well as the All seeing addons from the wraith.
- It nerfs Freddys power
- A nerf for freddy is rediculus. The weakest killer in the game gets nerfed. Good move BHVR.
- Survivors dont need this buff.
- It will not only buff solo survivors but also swf which really dont need it. Instead you should have given them perks like bond for free so solo survivors are closer to swf groups stuff that bridges the gab between solo and swf but dosent increase the maximum potential.
Thx for reading.
What you just said makes perfect sense....yet the devs seemingly overlooked this.
Why? I just don' get it. Lockers should be working both ways in terms of blocking auras. -
I can see opinion is divided.
If I worked at behaviour i'd be like "screw this, im taking my christmas break" lol -
Haha good one.yeet said:@The_Crusader said:
BeanieEnthusiast said:
The_Crusader said:115 would be too much. We've been over this.
115 and no stun is ridiculous.
But the hillbilly has 115% movement speed, little to no stun on his chainsaw, and can move 3 times as fast while using his power, and can also easily instadown with it. So tell me, is it really too much? I don’t think so.
Maybe its hillbilly who needs adjusting then
hillbilly is the most balanced killer in the game
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The survivors can fight back in that right? Just like friday 13th, where everyone used to bully jason.Acromio said:@RSB said:
Last Year is coming, I'm looking forward to switch there from DbD, it looks way more polished and fun.Last Year makes playing perkless Legion against an ipothetical Depip Squad look fun, fair and balanced.
If we've learned anything its that 4 people will eventually cheese the mechanics to bully the killer. DBD was no exception with flashlights, DS and sabo squads.
Somehow Bevhaviour seems to have pulled it off better than others despite how broken the game can be lol
Until one of the big devs takes a shot at this i.e Blizzard or someone then I don't think there is too much danger of a vastly more balanced rival coming out. -
I don't think Cote means to piss people off, I just think he's a bit of a goon who always puts his foot in his mouth. Someone needs to start kicking him under the table everytime he starts to say something he shouldn't lolMalakir said:
"I'll take the dedicated servers argument with a grain of salt" -DevThe_Crusader said:Some people go too far with their comments definitely.
At the same time I don't think BHVR takes enough time to consider some of the changes they make to the game. Decisive strike, legion, insta flashlights etc they just throw things out there and it becomes a nightmare to balance later.
"If you don't like play killer play something else. Play survivors for a change or Civilization, is a good game" -Dev
If even the devs are toxic asf to their community who actually keep the game alive, they kinda deserves to be called out sometimes. I do it out of love because I wanna see this game crush every other game and improve
Still, it's obvious people will bash on them when they [BAD WORD] up and prise them when they do good stuff. Already happen and will keep happening
Some of them definitely only play casually. This is obvious from their streams.
But the designers who are responsible for the balance? Has anyone seem them play? Surely they must be better. But again seeing old videos of the game there's some really bizarre things that make it into the game. I know if I bought this in 2016 or 2017 I wouldn't have kept playing it. Not with pallet vacuums and pre-exhaustion nerf ffs -
I think he will get a few mid patch adjustments and then forgotten about for a year until the talk of a complete rework comes up, just like Freddy.Mc_Harty said:@The_Crusader said:
Hes broken. Utterly broken.He needs to go back to the drawing board but knowing these devs, they'll probably keep adjusting his power rather then actually fix him.
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And this is the only way they will learn.Tsulan said:
As someone who only started playing recently I don't know how killers stuck with the game with flashlights like that. I would have uninstalled and not looked back.
This is why the devs get ripped on in the forums. Who actually thought instablinds were a good idea? -
Some people go too far with their comments definitely.
At the same time I don't think BHVR takes enough time to consider some of the changes they make to the game. Decisive strike, legion, insta flashlights etc they just throw things out there and it becomes a nightmare to balance later.
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