SteelDragon

@aazimuth said:
It's funny because the only people who say she has a lot of counterplay main spirit.

it is almost as if the people who play both killer and survivor know what makes both sides tick, making them better players on both sides because they understand the roles and what works and what doesn't work. playing spirit to know what works against you and what doesn't then changing how you play based on that knowledge. funny I bet you a lot of people who complain about spirit don't play her

in the nurse changes are really interesting, but spirit is better NOT be the next one being worked on Comment by SteelDragon October 8, 2019

@Peanits said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/742175#Comment_742175
Rank 20 Nurse actually has the lowest kill rate of any killer. If we were basing it off of rank 20, she would be buffed.
It's okay if you don't like the changes, but at least give them a try first and at least tell us why you don't like them. Making up reasons isn't going to accomplish anything.

neither does giving our feedback to, many people have said for a long time BASEKIT NURSE IS FINE ADDONS ARE THE PROBLEM. yet you still change the basekit. there is also many other things people want changed yet nothing gets done. and we have already given many reasons why not to like them without testing them, testing them will only give us more reasons. but knowing BHVR the changes will go through NO MATTER the feedback

in The ONLY issue was Nurse's addons. What reasoning do you have to nerf her basekit? Comment by SteelDragon October 8, 2019

@Mochan said:
It's really not.

Haddonfield, infinites, large maps like temple of purgation, the nurse nerf called "slight changes to basekit", insta heals, keys, gen rushing, un-mindgameable pallets. want me to go on?

in Game stacked against killers Comment by SteelDragon October 8, 2019

@Mr_Goodman said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/743093#Comment_743093
LMAO Ight you got me. That was pretty accurate and funny at the same time. xD

thanks :)

in Nurse baseline changes remind me of the killer dark times Comment by SteelDragon October 8, 2019

@Mr_Goodman said:
Another True video...... On to the point, even with this nerf Nurse isn't gonna be bottom tier. She will still be better than clown and Legion.

that isn't saying much really, it's like saying a nickel is worth more than a penny. it is yes but doesn't really make much of a difference

in Nurse baseline changes remind me of the killer dark times Comment by SteelDragon October 8, 2019

@Troman said:
I like what the DEVs plan to do to the base power. No more blink-spamming until you down someone, it adds more strategy to playing and countering the Nurse.
It took two years, but better later than never. A long needed change.

found the rank 20 entitled survivor

in Changes to the Nurse base power look great Comment by SteelDragon October 8, 2019

@CashelP14 said:
What even is this thread. The nurse needed her add-ons changed and I personally like how diverse her add-ons feel. They've made her:
Easier to learn for new players with her add-ons
Right distribution of add-ons
More diverse and interesting add-ons
Spirit already has become the most played killer at red ranks so this change won't make any difference to that in my opinion. I personally find playing the same killer all the time boring so I have 7 or 8 who I like to play with.
I agree with what @GrootDude was saying. Some games you just have to accept there was nothing you can do, you just won't win every single game. He plays leatherface, a killer who is considered weak yet does well with him. Old freddy was the perfect example of a killer who was considered bad, yet the freddy mains who knew how to play him could get 3/4 killers per game at red ranks easy.
Now I will admit I've played games where the killer has destroyed us, yet maybe 2 or 3 of us escaped. Normally though that's because they made a mistake or two. Maybe he should have slugged at times, maybe he should have played less fair or maybe should have left that one survivor and chased someone weaker.

most of the addons have been made redundant with the rework, YES omega blink WAS A PROBLEM, base kit WAS FINE. they nerfed the base kit to being on charges, basekit is now you get 2 charges and each blink consumes a charge, they recharge at a rate of 1 per 3 seconds. A BIG NERF to nurse. and with the addons some of them are stupid by nerfing nurse but rewarding for more BP, because SO MANY PEOPLE use those addons (not really) like "blinking near a survivor causes them to scream and you get bloodpoints" SO USEFUL! I do like the creativity with some of them like how if you blink and get a hit you become faster as nurse for a while etc. but I feel like to many of them have been made redundent

in RIP red rank diversity Comment by SteelDragon October 8, 2019

@ad19970 said:
Or maybe, just maybe, the killers used at red ranks are used because you can 4k so often with them, no matter how good the opposing team is. When people talk about Nurse and Spirit being the only two red ranks viable killers, I feel like the reason is because they can get 4ks most of their games. It can mean they are the only viable killers, but at this point, except for maybe on a few certain maps, I believe the reason is that they are a bit too powerful.
This outcry is crazy. PTB hasn't even been out yet, and it will take many days before people can really tell if she was overnerfed or not. This nerf only allows survivors to break LOS for a bit longer, so it buffs their counterplay slightly. That shouldn't hurt Nurse too much in any way.

survivors when playing at maximum potential or just close to it is even a hard game for nurse/spirit. also don't forget about the ranking system, to rank up as survivor you can die, get 2-3 saves, do a gen or 2, get chased just a little bit and you will AT LEAST black pip, probably pip. for killer? 3k and some 4ks are a black pip, unless you 3 hook every survivor, win every chase, not use killers like billy and plague (because chaser emblem is broken for them) you will not pip. 2k will be AT BEST a black pip but most of the time a depip. and this is NOT counting for people who DC which will affect it HEAVILY

in RIP red rank diversity Comment by SteelDragon October 7, 2019

@coppersly said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/742181#Comment_742181
Playing with your friends is fine, if the game was DESIGNED around it. They did not make this game thinking we would have tactical squads on comms like we do today. It is most certainly broken at higher elo if you aren't playing one of the top 3 killers. You will just not have a good time. At all.

it was made without voice chat FOR A REASON, ALSO why is it that some perks LIKE BOND are basically a little worse version of just asking "where is everyone and what are you doing" on comms? SWF gives you most of the aura reading survivor perks in the game FOR FREE, so each SWF survivor is playing with 4+ perks due to SWF comms. vs the 4 perk (3 perks because ruin is needed) killer. BHVR knew about how strong comms would be and INTENTIONALLY didn't put it into the base game. they instead turned that power into perks so that if the survivors wanted access to it they would need to use up perk slots. SWF comms BYPASSES THAT BALANCE. also it has been about 3 years and they have had no mention of putting comms into DBD, wouldn't be hard to I bet you but they have not done it FOR BALANCE REASONS

in Why are we changing the strongest killer in the game without addressing SWF? Comment by SteelDragon October 7, 2019

@PoisonN said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/742088#Comment_742088
Killers? Poor survivors! Yhey have nothing to rely on! Just squads, broken maps and fun perks
Nurse was alaways the biggest problem, for real

SWF, insta heals, Haddonfield, infinites, un-mindgameable pallets, keys, insta heals, gen rushing, tons of pallets. O YES POOR SURVIVORS WOE IS THEM!

in RIP red rank diversity Comment by SteelDragon October 7, 2019

@cetruzzo said:
Don't worry, survivor's tears will get spirit nerfed and all will be balanced again.

if that happens I will quite DBD

in RIP red rank diversity Comment by SteelDragon October 7, 2019

@ahandfulofrain said:
I don't disagree but then again... moris, prayer beads, omegablink, etc.

insta heals, keys, gen rushing, bad ruin spots, infinites, Haddonfield. SWF

in Keys are extremely unfair Comment by SteelDragon October 7, 2019

@Kilmeran said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/739529#Comment_739529
@SteelDragon All of which should be immaterial. You do realize that doing network and server coding is a different beast from programming perks and killer powers, or doing map design?
Unless their team is a majority Jack of All Trades but Masters of None somehow, the folks dealing with the Netcoding are very unlikely to be the general game programmers.
I actually have folks in my family with Masters Degrees in that field. Three people, as a matter of fact. And not a one of them could program game code to any professional degree.
But they can handle your server and networking coding just fine.
And yes, the issues being faced would be normal. The difference is that pretty much any other game studio would have built their game and the servers from the start to use Dedicated Servers. The issues would have been discovered and handled during closed Alpha, closed Beta, and then the final tweaks in Open Beta via massive player testing and load testing.
BHVR is doing this to a live Game-As-Service three-plus years after the fact. So, it's going to be messy as hell.

hence why I want them to take their time and not rush the servers, if they need to be delayed then DELAY them don't release it in a poor state and slowly patch it. I will not play DBD during that time

in Delay dedicated servers even further Comment by SteelDragon October 7, 2019

@Fibijean said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/739283#Comment_739283
Yeah, that's why I made the poll - mixed was a lot better than I was expecting tbh. Looking at all the complaining that goes on on the forums, one would think that everyone is having a gamebreaking experience with them. According to the poll (to which respondees seemed to be mostly Australian or European, so maybe that's relevant) a good chunk of people actually consider them at least on par with their previous experience, if not an improvement.

I myself am American and have heard that the American experience was pretty bad, idk I don't live in other countries so I cant talk for them

in Delay dedicated servers even further Comment by SteelDragon October 7, 2019

@Kilmeran said:
@SteelDragon I'll reserve judgement on that until they announce they are launching them. They technically have until December 21st (the last day of Fall) to do so and make their new schedule, and a lot can happen with the Netcode in two-and-a-half months.

well don't forget like I said they got a lot of other stuff to do, work on the next chapter, the upcoming mid chapter update, the map reworks (which are more needed than dedicated servers tbh) balance changes. the archive event. skins. the Halloween event. etc. so it is not a all hands on deck for working on the dedicated servers