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  • Someone plz explain that you can only grab an injured surv vaulting (but not in healthy status) and the rest of grab conditions/actions, thxs
  • Buff 1: now every surv is like the obsession cuz insta trigger and no % to wiggle

    Nerf 1: only after 1st and 2nd unhook

    Buff 2: skill check now NOT difficult

    Nerf 2: only 60 seconds

    I would say is more nerf than buff cuz the 60 secs thingy
  • The Chinese spammer as new survivor we could slaughter
  • @HavelmomDaS1 said:
    I'm talking about the infinite loading screen. Please, if you already have fixed the issue internally you should push it live as a hotfix asap and not wait for the big update with new content. 
    This is like an emergency, you should be totally focused to fix that with high priority.

    I can literally not play survivor anymore, 90% is an infinite loading screen or freeze, and in the other 10% I'm loading into a 3v1.
    I don't want to play only killer (and even as killer I get infinite loading screens, but less often) all time, I want to play both sides equally. 

    And in case you haven't fixed it internally, you should seriously use all power and recources to do so. 
    I'm really surprised that we have to deal with this gamebreaking and frustrating bug for so long.

    same, is too annoying doing this ctr+alt+supr at least once daily

    the NAT error is annoying as much as this too, cuz I even need to restart PC

  • Lantern said:
    not_Queen said:

    When we are ready to communicate about the new content, we will.
    The only thing I am allowed to say right now is Soon™

    Time for some big brain:

    (This is just a silly fun joke, by the way. I'm not at all serious)

    If you rearrange the letters in "Soon^TM," then you get "Toomns," which sounds like "Tombs." And what do you find in tombs?

    Mummies.

    Confirmed new killer is The Mummy.

    All jokes aside though, I'm very excited to find out what the new chapter will be like.
    Though I can't imagine they will top Spirit, in my personal opinion, it can't really be any worse than Legion. So I'm excited to see what they have in store for us.

    I'm definitely impatient though. With games like DBD, it can get repetitive very quickly, which can drive players away. New characters are a good refresh and make the game fun again.

    And there are an endless amount of killer concepts out amongst the community. I'm sure we could all think of at least a few each. I know I have about 10 million ideas on new killers myself.
    But killer and perk concepts are probably the easiest part.
    I imagine the reason they take so long to come out is because of the extremely tedious and complex work that goes into coding, modelling, animating, testing, etc. Along with designing the new map, survivor, prestige skins, and other cosmetics.

    Which I completely understand, so I am by no means upset about the rate at which chapters come out. 
    I'm just anxious to get into the fog with another new killer so the game isn't so stale for me anymore, you know?

    But I don't think I'll ever truly drift from DBD too far. Even with all the problems, I just love it so much. 
    Mummy cuz is "the oldest killer"

    +

    Shapeshifter cuz the carnival flag 

    =

    ????
  • Bubba:

    • Instasaw
    • Ruin
    • Agitation
    • Iron Grasp
    • Insidious

    Insert rage mail here Best troll / salt mining build in the game, change my mind XD every time I feel down, I whip out this build and maybe throw on a mori or two then laugh as I get rage mail and dc's.

    Facecamping with insidious in the basement I guess and m2 on hook rescuers
  • Iron Grip.
    Agitation.
    Enduring.
    Mad Grit.

    Fragrant Tuft of Hair.
    Any add ons that gets you to EW3 fast.
    Ebony Memento Mori offering.

    Micheal Myers with 1 shot power while holding a survivor, 18% faster speed, basically a slug build. If the survivors don't die by your swing, you could very well possibly get a DC from the person you are holding, Decisive Strike? No problem.




    You can down survs while transport too!

  • Plz STAWP the ######### talk n walls of text
  • @BACKSTABBER said:

    @ToxicFengM1n said:

    @BACKSTABBER said:
    If you study in depth the characteristics of the killers (visual clocking, terror radius, attacks...) You know the shapeshifter is the one to complete the puzzle

    Regarding the survs, we got a nerd, sportsgirl, all colored races and personalities... Harder to guess.... If is gonna be related to carnival, think about Brazilian or Mardi Gras or European... I bet it is a mixed race woman

    No its not, shapeshifter will be countered by swf chat, it would never work and we all know it

    so what? only the costume can be eventually countered in SWF if they pay attention but the rest of skills and features of the killer will not, not to mention, no SWF, no counter

    You want another killer like legion?

    Put me a dozen o' em plz
  • @ToxicFengM1n said:

    @BACKSTABBER said:
    If you study in depth the characteristics of the killers (visual clocking, terror radius, attacks...) You know the shapeshifter is the one to complete the puzzle

    Regarding the survs, we got a nerd, sportsgirl, all colored races and personalities... Harder to guess.... If is gonna be related to carnival, think about Brazilian or Mardi Gras or European... I bet it is a mixed race woman

    No its not, shapeshifter will be countered by swf chat, it would never work and we all know it

    so what? only the costume can be eventually countered in SWF if they pay attention but the rest of skills and features of the killer will not, not to mention, no SWF, no counter

  • The only NOED nerf possible is to show exposed status right after the last gen is done, not like now when received a hit as well
  • If you study in depth the characteristics of the killers (visual clocking, terror radius, attacks...) You know the shapeshifter is the one to complete the puzzle

    Regarding the survs, we got a nerd, sportsgirl, all colored races and personalities... Harder to guess.... If is gonna be related to carnival, think about Brazilian or Mardi Gras or European... I bet it is a mixed race woman
  • DS has no longer difficult skill check, so survs pretty much gonna successfully hit the fuk  outta the killers
  • @Sinner said:
    Gen rush nerf

    If killers will stop tunneling because of DS, this would be a major nerf to gen rush. Every smart player knows that tunneling is bad for the killer in the long run. When you target the unhooker, the unhooked has to go heal and than find a gen to work on. While if you tunnel, the unhooker will just go back to working on his gen. So the ideal situation to avoid gen rush would be to not tunnel, that way you only have between 0 and 2 survivors working on gens, instead of 0 and 3.

    End game survivor buff

    Pretty much all killers camp when the exit gates are open and there's not much you can do about it. Usually spots on the hook are traded between survivors. Here is how I would use the new DS in this situation: I unhook the survivor, killer downs me and puts me on the hook. The guy who just got unhooked has DS ready and unhooks me straight away, now I have DS ready also so the killer cannot hook us anymore.

    is very frustrating for killers that now you dont know who has insta DS with non-difficult skillcheck

  • well dear Killahs, this new DS is easy countered slugging more often for 60+ seconds, while you go for another survs, is not that hard, and only slug from the 2nd to 3rd hook

  • @AzralynnFan said:
    Azralynn is my favorite dead by daylight streamer and I even made a video as to why she's the best!!! <3https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buH2uTx1jUU&amp;t=1s

    Och*do is my fav but now I watch more Monto

  • @The_Crusader said:
    BACKSTABBER said:

    @pemberley said:

    If you’re getting tunneled you’re going down in 40 or less usually. 

    But 60 is fine I think if the killer gets a visual notification like Pop or MYC. Maybe once the perk activates on a survivor the killer sees a little clock on their icon that counts down (survivors see this too.) 
    
    I can’t help but think how rough it would be when you do play fair but you run into your last victim at say second 58/60 and then get dsed for being unlucky. 
    

    Or especially end game. Won’t survivors get a free escape with ds? 

    they should add the countdown timer like did recently with blood warden's logo

    The survivor has a countdown because it's their perk. For this reason the killer won't - as it isn't their perk.

    Having said that survivors get "exposed" notifications on their screen, so maybe killers could have something similar?

    DS will be a huge failure:

    • previously only 1 from the possibly 4 survs got obsession and fast trigger of immediate OP DS
    • the other max. 3 surv got a very crappy 35-45% wiggle to trigger it

    and NOW everyone equiping got the immediate OP DS trigger lol the only "but" is the 60secs...

    only playing we will see if this is balance or the DS virus wars continue

  • @KingB said:
    Edit: I completely misunderstood the rework. I thought the person unhooking the survivor would get it. Since i called myself an idiot can the devs lock this for naming and shaming?

    it would be cool rework getting urself the DS virus after u perform the unhook lol

  • @TreemanXD said:
    I couldn’t really understand what you said, but it sounds like you’re mad at the DS change which was needed.

    yep, seems he is arab non-english native

  • @pemberley said:
    If you’re getting tunneled you’re going down in 40 or less usually. 

    But 60 is fine I think if the killer gets a visual notification like Pop or MYC. Maybe once the perk activates on a survivor the killer sees a little clock on their icon that counts down (survivors see this too.) 

    I can’t help but think how rough it would be when you do play fair but you run into your last victim at say second 58/60 and then get dsed for being unlucky. 

    Or especially end game. Won’t survivors get a free escape with ds? 

    they should add the countdown timer like did recently with blood warden's logo

  • @sadmuffins13 said:
    After many failed attempts i finally got my adept nurse achivement. Felt so freaking good. I swear this game did not make it easy. I kept getting the farm map. Which i think is the worse map for her because of corn vision. To anyone trying to get this dont give up. The practice you get with her is so worth it. Someone said on here to not use any add ons an just get used to her base power. All i can say is thank you def helped me get used to her. To any god nurses out there  i comend you. Im gonna continue to main my spirit tho. As powerful as the nurse is. I love my girl Rin. 

    congrats u got a medal, which is a tiny picture of few bites visible in your profile none cares about

  • @ShrimpTwiggs said:
    Decisive Strike has finally been nerfed, eh?

    well at least now everyone equiping DS has the same chance to trigger it

    previously was OP only when u were the obsession and useless if not due to wiggling to trigger it

  • @Steafanmc said:
    from what we have seen, we know that he has tenacity like claws and can assume due to the size of the entity can only fit 6 claws though to pull the victims through so he may feast on them. We also know that the entity can pull ppl from any point in time so the entity is in a dimension where time does not exist, also the entity is able to create pocket dimensions (also absent of time) for the killers to hunt down the people the entity brought in to these pocket dimensions for the entity to feast. Since we know that all killers are human the entity is able to share small amounts of his power with them to help them hunt for the entity.
    We also have to ask ourselves is the entity only doing this for food or for a greater purpose, so that someday he may escape his world and enter our world and all the ppl the killers hook and kill are part of a massive blood ritual to open a riff between worlds

    the entity is like the octopus from the movie "the mist", born from military experiments

  • @FireHazard said:
    I just learned to live with it honestly, if they nerf it...it doesn't really make a big difference to me.

    Only the time will say if people luv or hate DS nerf, I guess it will be hated due to the stressful 60 secs countdown you can't control much as surv

    Yeah at least they leave the most useful perk for me in peace as DH and bond

  • @HeHeBoii said:
    Noed Counter - Destroy totums
    Tears wiped away. Ahh love when entitled Survivors cry on forums about easy counters.

    yup thats the nerf already, totems disable it

  • @not_Queen said:
    So we know that a lot of you had tons of questions about the upcoming DS changes.
    So here we go!

    Can a player use DS more than 1 time per match?

    No.

    Do you lose the chance to use DS if you aren't using it on the first carry?

    No you do not, the perk is disabled only when you miss or succeed the DS skillcheck.

    Does the timer continues when in dying state / being healed?

    Yes. The timer acts like the timer from Make your Choice or We'll Make it for example.

    When are these changes coming?

    These changes will be implemented in the next update. They will be available in the next Player Test Build as well.

    Why shorten the killer stun?

    We will be looking closely at feedback and interactions from the PTB to decide if we need to adjust the stun time.

    DS change happened, how about NOED changes?

    We aren't planning to change NOED at the moment. We consider that NOED has multiple gameplay counters and is currently in a good place. We do not think of NOED as an equivalent to DS.

    How does the DS changes affect the other Obsession perks?

    • Increases your chance to become the obsession.  
    • The Killer can only be Obsessed with one survivor at a time. 

    Survivor Perks

    Decisive Strike

    • Transfers the Obsession status to the Decisive Strike user when successfully triggered during a trial.

    Sole Survivor

    • No Change

    Object of Obsession

    • Only the active Obsession has the ability to see the killer at a maximum range of 56/64/72 meters.

    Killer Perks

    Save the Best for Last

    • No matter the active Obsession, if a killer with Save the Best for Last hits a survivor who is the obsession they will lose 4/3/2 tokens.
    • The player who is no longer the obsession will be treated as a non-obsession, adding a 5% decreased successful attack cool down per hit.
    • The killer doesn't lose his tokens when the Obsession status is transferred to another survivor unless he hits the active Obsession.

    Play With Your Food

    • No matter who has been the Obsession, if a killer with Play With Your Food chases and lets the active Obsession escape, they will gain a movement speed token until their next offensive action.
    • The player who is no longer the Obsession will be treated as a non-obsession, meaning that activating a chase with a non-obsession and losing the chase will not grant the killer a PWYF token.

    Dying Light

    • The active Obsession has the altruistic action speed bonus while they are alive.
    • If the active Obsession is killed, Dying Light's de-buff is applied to all remaining survivors.
    • If, at some point in the trial, another player becomes the Obsession, Dying Lights de-buff will be removed as the Obsession is considered alive again.

    Remember Me

    • No matter the active Obsession, hitting the Obsession will add +5 seconds of Exit Gate opening time up to a maximum of 20/25/30 additional seconds.
    • All additional seconds are kept when the Obsession is killed, and if the active Obsession changes.
    • The active Obsession always ignore the extra door opening times. They are not affected by Remember Me.

    Rancor

    • The active Obsession will be revealed for 5/4/3 seconds when a generator is completed.
    • The non-Obsessions, even one that was recently the Obsession, will have their locations revealed for 3 seconds after a generator is completed.
    • Once all generators have been completed, the active Obsession will be exposed and can be killed. This is true for any active Obsession which means that the Rancor mori can potentially be used up to 4 times.

    Killer Add-ons

    Judith's Journal
    Stalking the active Obsession grants more stalks points per second.

    Black Box
    Only active at the start of the match. Will not reactivate when the Obsession changes.

    the only remaining question unsolved is "in the next Player Test Build as well", so when?

    inb4 please avoid "Soon", not replying or not replying other than a date/times Thanks~~

  • Is trash, easy to counter, just count mentally 1 minute after unhooks with suspicious survs

    Worst is u can't control when to shoot DS, I used todo before 3rd or 2nd hook, now so trash when killer wants or not
  • Isn't what the OP saying is that it priorizes mending self over taking someone off the hook. If someone's camping and you're attempting to do a swap, that would mean you wouldn't be able to because of deep wound. No other killer has this potential. There is an issue with self-care similar to this where it prioritizes healing yourself with you're injured, rather than pulling someone off the hook.

    It's a QoL update and nothing else. People who are acting like it'll increase camping are confused. It's about it working smoothly and not being janky.

    Isn't what the OP saying is that it priorizes mending self over taking someone off the hook. If someone's camping and you're attempting to do a swap, that would mean you wouldn't be able to because of deep wound. No other killer has this potential. There is an issue with self-care similar to this where it prioritizes healing yourself with you're injured, rather than pulling someone off the hook.

    It's a QoL update and nothing else. People who are acting like it'll increase camping are confused. It's about it working smoothly and not being janky.

    It seems most of thet ppl do not understand how overpowered is the unhook cancel by the deep wound

    Last match tried to save the last surv hooked with legion facecamping.. when I got close he knew pretty well how unnecessarily do frenzy deep wood attack, then I understood was his mind game to make me impossible the unhook and also demotivating
  • @Peasant said:
    @BACKSTABBER Look, a while back you made a post asking for perks that would reward surviviors for getting other surviviors killed.

    Fast forward to present day and I see you complaining that you can't unhook someone while under the effects of a special melee attack.

    Like I stated above, due to you suffering from deep wounds that you identified the source of as a Legion (whom the community has branded a tunneler), it seems that you were attempting a hook save with the killer very close by.

    Therefore I see nothing wrong with hook farmers being denied greedy unhooks that hinder their team.

    I say let deep wounds stop unhooks. Could this be used to camp a survivior with great success, yes , but so could Leatherface with a revved saw. The community already knows to split up and rush gens if the killer camps so we already have counterplay for this. All in all, this just doesn't seem like a big deal to me.

    If you give that unfair advantage canceling unhooks with the deep wound, then will be a nightmare if people start purchasing Legion and play it like crazy

    If you play surv, Legion is the anti-fun, the anti-killer, the most annoying, the one that survs DC the most... let's do not make him with that huge advantage, LEGION MAY CAUSE A DEEP WOUND TO DBD

    The issue has an easy solution:

    • if you are in front of a hooked surv, unhooking takes priority over the rest (snap out, healing, mend sef...)
  • @ToxicFengM1n said:
    We know freddy needs a buff, so put your ideas for a freddy buff here!

    the most important is with the unhooks, should be an add-on that when you unhook turn into dreamworld

  • guys can you please stop kidnapping my thread with ur BBQ stuff? lol

  • Master said:

    @brokedownpalace said:
    You literally can't even point out a bug without these people making it a killer vs survivor conflict. The only thing stopping you from unhooking should be being hit or grabbed. Even in madness 3 you can unhook.

    How old are you, @Master? Grow up.

    Who says that it is a bug and not a feature?

    See looping e.g.

    It is a bug because I was just in a game where legion was camping and frenzied my teammate and he still got the unhook , sometimes you don't even get the mending prompt which is another bug 
    This.

    Funny because Snap Out takes priority over Mending, so if you are tier 3 and someone saves you with BT you can't Mend yourself.

    They really should have left the bleed out like it was. Everything about Deep Wounds, including the HUD effects, suck and is broken. If we didn't have such a lame killer it could have just stayed as it was.

    Devs need to priorize the bugs.. cough* I mean the states snap out, mending, unhook... Fix broken game plz
  • @MysterTal said:
    Man, you know what I_ really_ love? Love more than anything? More than the Legion with Frank's Mix Tape/Moonwalking?

    I love starting a lobby, seeing four enthusiastic-looking people come in all at once, ready to go - then I love burning my one Bloody Party Streamers offering... and getting an Infinite Loading Screen.

    It's the [BAD WORD] BEST ever.

    yes, I have infinite loading screen like everyday once, then ctrl+alt+supr and restart game

    I also have the NAT error sometimes too! gotta restart the PC in taht case

  • peace bro

    dat Kate's 4ss in the ramp tho:

    l00minarty conf4

  • Peasant said:
    Peasant said:
    I honestly see nothing wrong with this.
    It is a technique exploited by Legion to avoid hook rescue. It obviously should have priority unhooking more than mendself, since ur in front of the hooked for some reason lol
    Well perhaps you shouldn't go for the unhook in the first place if the killer is near you. After all, Deep Wounds is a melee penalty.

    Sounds to me like you were trying to farm an ally and got punished by the killer.
    Do not make it complicated, the exploit is clear regardless the situation
  • Don't change the subject, BBQ is fine, just hide in lockers

    Devs fix that clear exploit
  • Peasant said:
    I honestly see nothing wrong with this.
    It is a technique exploited by Legion to avoid hook rescue. It obviously should have priority unhooking more than mendself, since ur in front of the hooked for some reason lol
  • @Eveline said:
    Huh?

    I am using object of obsession so ds users have to wiggle before they can use ds.

    im using DS+OoO so salty DS haters got annoyed

  • @Fenrir said:
    we got noob3 talking about everything wrong with the game if he missed anything say what down below

    the biggest problem DBD has is with the talent and little number of devs SO FAR

  • @PiiFree said:

    @CJsDBD said:
    Which is worse, getting pallet stunned, or blinded?

    Pallet stunned is the result of the Killers incompetence.

    yes, thats why I think Truetalent is playing worse and worse lately

  • Kate cuz she gorgeous and spirit cuz Asian booty
  • I would add distance-based in-game voice chat
  • Pig's squeal when she gets stunned>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any other form of sound wave
    Yep so tiny girl makes u wonder how in hell can she beat David
  • I love Feng's cries of pain, Clown's laugh is so satisfying, no matter how bad or well his match is going he's always laughing and that makes feel better :)

    Feng's cries are so epic, Kate's sounds good too
  • @BACKSTABBER said:

    @The_Crusader said:
    Feng

    Feng Min sounds so sexy when hit her, like a little tiny innocent girl

    FBI open up!

    U forgot to post the YouTube meme link u lazy 4ss 😘
  • Fast DC and survs not doing gens mean DBD is probably dying
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