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@SleepyWillo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2567114#Comment_2567114
I dont really get the hate for second chance perks or how they auto give health states.
Second chance perks are bandaid fixes for flawed game mechanics or playstyles which are widely considered "unfun". DS and BT for tunneling and camping, UB for slugging, etc. The only one which I can see as being remotely a "free health state" is DH and even that is easily baited once you know they have it. And yes it can be used for distance but only once like every other exhaustion perk - though DH gives the least amount of distance at that...
TL:DR - I dont camp, tunnel or slug and never see BT, DH or DS and if I am forced to proc them its rare and ends very badly for the survivors...
On high tier killers. it ain't so much the dh thing...
Now lets talk about the walking m1 killers... the ones that Have to pallet loop with survivors.. they don't even stand remotely a chance against even High Mmr survivors..
Dh is Really powerful and people don't even realize it,
@Vampwire said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2567114#Comment_2567114
All second chance perks can be played around. Unbreakable is kind of iffy since you don't know a survivor has it until they use it, but many of them have become very balanced. DH can be baited or forced by outplaying survivors. DS deactivates when you progress the match. BT is avoidable by simply not tunneling while also being a way to add a little more delay if you do hit as it inflicts deep wound.
Also not everything needs a TL;DR since they can really cripple the argument by leaving out essential information.
Not all Second chance perks...
You can't really outplay Dh if they wanna use it for distance and get to another pallet loop..
You can't really outplay the Ds / Unbreak together without eating one.. or the other,
You need to make sure as killer you'll get a chase in less than 15-20 seconds, otherwise bruteforce it and try again on a diff survivor..
At High Mmr it's quite....Brutal to say the least
Edit: And to SleepyWillo. sure you can Not camp Tunnel or Slug, but you will when it involves a whole ass Sweat Game..
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@Vampwire said:
Many times this week I have been told to "rush gens harder" or something of the sort every time my team escapes. Disregarding the fact that many of these killers had meta slowdown (Ruin + UD, Ruin + Pop, etc.) it always seems that the killer doesn't recognize their mistakes but blames the survivors for their loss. And to a degree, yes, survivors make the killer lose, but only when outplaying them consistently. I see a lot of people claim that "survivors are the power role in high play", and while survivors are very strong in that level, its not the whole picture. People seem to forget the fact that *good survivors should escape*. The reason these people aren't dying is because they're very experienced and know the game in and out. They know how to adapt and play based on the situation. Now, why do I bring this up? Because many killer mains will refer to this to discredit survivors. To say "you have it easier than I do, hence your opinion is invalid". And to that I have to say, you're not going against comp squads EVERY match. Sometimes you just lose and you have to accept that. And I know others will say "well what about this?" and list all the busted items survivors can bring. But also you're not going against that every game. Because if you were you probably wouldn't be complaining about gen rushing still.
Killers refuse to just say "gg you guys did good" and want to thrash survivors for just playing the game. Survivor mains do this too, and I've experienced both on an equal amount. But the thing about is that killers are in control for a majority of how the match plays out. You are the opposing force. The killer you choose and the way you play will change the flow of the match. Its when you let survivors have control that you start to lose. And before you even start, no survivors do not control the flow of the match. They can loop and juke all they want but really its how you use your killers power and how you play that dictates that flow. You're the one who can corner survivors. You're the one who can kill them, the one who can decide where they run to next. If you know that a survivor is going to go for a vault into the next loop, you want to cut them off from that. But just because you're trying to do something doesn't mean that survivors are going to just give it to you.
I think a lot of killers just expect survivors to roll over and die or run without a plan. And I also believe this is attributed to the skill curve of DBD. They get conditioned into going against lesser opponents to the point where when they meet a challenge they don't know what to do. So they get frustrated and blame the survivor. To remedy this they run the strongest perks they can for easier downs. But a lot of the time I don't see killers use their perks how they should. I've had killers with ruin walk right past me doing a gen to get a down and instead of going back to push me off they just hook instead. I've also had some who full commit to me then wonder why they lost only chasing one person. And their first response to this is "they're genrushing". They don't take accountability for the fact that *they let me do the gen*. They made no attempt to build pressure yet want to complain that they never had a chance to get pressure. Do you expect us to give you health states? To give you hooks? To just not do gens because it'd be nice for you?
I understand that in some scenarios that its hard to get pressure. Say you get a map that's too big or two survivors ran prove thyself. Something like that. Does it make it harder? Yes. Does it make it impossible? No. Why do you play a 4v1 game and expect to not be challenged by the other side?
Shoulda put a TL:DR here...
But to answer your Question? Simply put... survivors can stack multiple second chances which results in 6-9 health states,
and you gotta get 12 hooks in a span of 10 minutes or less... Plus you can spawn on their hexes. making it worthless in the end,
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@landromat said:
TLDR: Bad players or just novices (people who are not very skilled) should not use noed because their mmr gets higher And their games will be much harder than they should.
Noed is just pity kills perk which allows you to kill 1-2 survivors more without any effort or skill, which means bad players using noed will get their mmr much higher than their actual skill to the point where games are unbearable even with noed.
Bad players, do not use noed because you will suffer a lot
edit: please do not post noed is fine comments. Post is not about that. Noed is balanced perk is a fact. Noed gives you kills you don't deserve is a fact too. Stop.
Ds also rewards bad players that get tunneled for no reason instead of Just looping better.
TL:DR Just loop better so you don't get tunneled 4head..
(and the argument is the literal same for Noed....just leave noed alone and do totems if people are Seriously complaining)
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Body is 1 character too short
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well. you can't depip when you already hit rank 1 so...
that and...SBMM is totally fair and gives me fair matches...
(Hint: one outta like 100 matches)
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Patience: This is the biggest factor against a Blight. Use it to your advantage, it's a huge difference between Bad Blights and Good Blights
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@jadss said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2498243#Comment_2498243
incredible assumption btw, never said that, she is literally fine she is the 2nd best killer behind trickster because of his uncounterable play-style.
Good nurses predict good survivors and good survivors try to predict the nurse, it's a battle between who will win a mindgame or who will get outplayed really hardly, I don't think she needs buff or nerf, but trickster does need nerf.
...This gotta be a troll. ngl,
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@StarLost said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2554874#Comment_2554874
Okay, I'm not sure how to break quotes up like that, so I'll go point by point, in a loosely descending order, as I'm not sure you're understanding me here. That said, you do seem somewhat willing to listen, so I'll take the time to respond properly.
- Your good behavior elsewhere does not excuse your terrible behavior in that game. There is no such thing as a 'jerk pass'. If I'd been asked to moderate this incident, you'd both be looking at a ban.
- 'I'm just doing a bit' isn't really an excuse either, especially when it splashes over into the game. He had no way of knowing this. All he saw was a likely smurf premade being BM as hell.
- The 'heel' persona thing is played out anyway, the days of FirebatHero, Destiny, HotshotGG and co. are mostly long gone. Now it's about being funny, engaging, informative, friendly - and above all, skilled and innovative. You are free to continue trying this route, but - from someone who's had modest success on YouTube (albeit in politics, not gaming) - there is a fine line between being amusingly puckish, and being a gigantic butt.
- If you don't want people yelling at you in postgame, keep it entirely on stream. Or better yet, manner up. Trust me, your audience will respect you all the more for it.
- (This is entirely besides the point) - MMR/SBMM is miles better than what we had before. I mostly get pretty even games, and the only games where I don't are either a 'there is basically nobody else playing at 3am on a Tuesday' or 'yeah, this is a .TTV premade that smurfed down their MMR' situation. That said, we aren't talking about MMR here. You noticed the difference in skill immediately, kept talking about how bad he was on stream, and then teabagged him when you beat him. That's the issue at hand. Your own behavior is what set him off.
- Is it behind us? That's the point of this discussion. You were a dick to him, and when he responded, you ran to the forums to name/shame him, as well as making a video to do the same. Tattling, basically, and tattling on someone that you basically goaded into reacting. That's exactly what a cry-bully is.
- Yes, he brought his best addons. Know why? Because he suddenly ran into an obvious premade, and was looking for any edge he could get. Trust me, as a killer - that's the only way to beat the TTV smurf stompcomps you run into from time to time. Personally, if I'm playing a killer I'm not confident on, damn straight I'm bringing my big guns. Either that, or I'm going to dodge you. Because - yeah. As you demonstrated here, SWF premades are usually poisonous as all hell.
- No. Don't do that. 'There are people worse than me' is textbook whataboutism. We aren't discussing their crappy behavior here. We are discussing your crappy behavior. Man up, take responsibility, learn from it.
- Again, nobody cares about your other games. If I brought your neighbors flowers on Tuesday and took a dump in your mailbox on Thursday, it's not going to smell any better.
- This is literally the first time you've mentioned 'making amends'. If that had been your intention, you wouldn't have come to the forums making a stink about him flipping out in post-game. You'd have made a very different thread. And probably a very different video - something along the lines of 'hey, to x killer, I was wrong, I apologize, let's make up'.
- That said, making amends is probably impossible now. You've sort of burned that bridge. All you can do is move forward and act better in the future.
- I don't hate you. I'm just pointing out that coming to the forums to essentially tattle on someone for exploding at you after you taunted them is pretty disgusting.
- You are in control of your actions. Nobody else is. Forget excuses, forget trying to weasel out of responsibility - clean your room.
to do the quotes btw. it's on the left of the chat box here. looking like a " sign.. now for a response
Is it behind us? That's the point of this discussion. You were a dick to him. and when he responded, you ran to the forums to name/shame him, as well as making a video to do the same. Tattling. basically, and tattling on someone that you basicaslly goaded into reacting. That's exactly what a cry-bully is.
Again...one game where i looked like an #########.. when there's other matches to prove i do waaay better than that, But that's yer opinion and it won't change so.. movin' forward..
This is literally the first time you've mentioned 'making amends'. If that had been your intention, you wouldn't have come to the forums making a stink about him flipping out in post-game. You'd have made a very different thread. And probably a very different video - something along the lines of 'hey, to x killer, I was wrong, I apologize, let's make up'.
I said that mainly at the end of the stream. but even then, i wouldn't dare try to do it on twitter... That's enough of a cesspool as it is..
(This is entirely besides the point) - MMR/SBMM is miles better than what we had before. I mostly get pretty even games, and the only games where I don't are either a 'there is basically nobody else playing at 3am on a Tuesday' or 'yeah, this is a .TTV premade that smurfed down their MMR' situation. That said, we aren't talking about MMR here. You noticed the difference in skill immediately, kept talking about how bad he was on stream, and then teabagged him when you beat him. That's the issue at hand. Your own behavior is what set him off.
The thing about Mmr is. Like i mentioned. on technically Main accounts, never purposely try to die / throw games unless we're doing something for fun or just don't wanna do gens, should be facing sweat killers. and We don't. We rarely get those matches. like 9 times outta 10 we get the variety that isn't Nurse Spirit or Blights.. (god i wish i was facing these more)
No. Don't do that. 'There are people worse than me' is textbook whataboutism. We aren't discussing their crappy behavior here. We are discussing your crappy behavior. Man up, take responsibility, learn from it.
I've said many times (Not on forums) on my stream that i am FAR from perfect. and i want to try and improve myself but to a point, i still have my own issues and behavior i work on daily (dbd still don't help this..)
I don't hate you. I'm just pointing out that coming to the forums to essentially tattle on someone for exploding at you after you taunted them is pretty disgusting.
I don't mind if you hate me or not. i'm used to having just that, ...i ain't tryna make myself a good guy, i just want people to understand that both wrongs don't come close to making a right,
'I'm just doing a bit' isn't really an excuse either, especially when it splashes over into the game. He had no way of knowing this. All he saw was a likely smurf premade being BM as hell.
Sbmm is totally perfect and doesn't throw me killers that can't go against a 4 man swf...
Now to wrap it up. What i did was wrong? Hell yes. Name and shame rule is abit iffy here on the forums as it stands, so i can't blur out names on stream.. nor in Vods for that matter. Did we trigger him? Perhaps. Did we insult him? Yeah and i felt like a PoS 'bout it, Like i said above one of these quotes. i ain't perfect nor Faaar from it, If the guy was ever on the forums. i'd want to still apologize to him for what i did and how i acted, i only kept the Highlight, Not for name and Shaming purpose. But to show that even a streamer is not the Victim in all this,
Now i do say... People can hate me all they want, or don't.. i don't wanna force people to do something they don't like, and i'd prefer if we had this more of a convo in private.. as it does get alil personal..
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@StarLost said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2554092#Comment_2554092
Hah. Okay, watched the game. I'm actually way less sympathetic to you now. That was...difficult to listen to (let's get real here, this isn't 'SWF being SWF' - you guys are jerks, and clearly proud of it).
First, you went out of your way to teabag him after a rough game. Just...don't do that. It's a really disrespectful, unsportsmanlike thing to do. A bad winner is a hundred times worse than a bad loser.
He was evidently frustrated in post-game. I'd have been frustrated too, he was clearly outclassed and you guys obviously knew that.
Note his perks, probably not an experienced Freddy (or potentially someone trying for an achievement - although watching the game, I think he's just a lot lower MMR than you chaps). I personally run into this all the time at my mediocre MMR - full TTV premades who are clearly slumming it for easy wins on stream, usually by bringing someone who has smurfed their MMR down substantially to lower the average.
Now, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here, and assume that this was just the MMR system crapping out and putting you up against someone that you shouldn't have been (or someone trying to do a very difficult achievement, quite possibly both), not you guys deliberately smurfing. Still though, you clearly picked up on the skill difference during the game (you were constantly talking about how bad he was).
You should have anticipated that he'd had a really rough time of it.
That's absolutely not the time to teabag. Why would you go out of your way to insult/gloat at someone clearly worse than you, running crap perks, that you just stomped?
However, it didn't end there. After he responded, you began egging him on, saying that you were 'toxic' because he brought a black ward. Why would this justify you being toxic?
He absolutely shouldn't have reacted that way - but you made the situation infinitely worse.
Next time, get your win, get out, and save your gloating and needling for your audience. If you are going to go out of your way to rile people up, don't be surprised when they get riled up. And absolutely don't come to the forums to tattle about it.
Nobody likes a cry-bully.
First off. late at night with Mmr being shite (i did warn people Mmr was terrible. BUT NOBODY BELIEVES ME STILL)
First, you went out of your way to teabag him after a rough game. Just...don't do that. It's a really disrespectful, unsportsmanlike thing to do. A bad winner is a hundred times worse than a bad loser.
I've had plenty of games where i never insulted the killer in any way possibility, Nor did the other teammate. (I.E ItzChungus) He is one of the nicest people i've met and judging just ONE clip kinda makes it a dick move, ngl... If you also went to the channel you'd see that i only play said assholey character on the stream as the bio said here:
Note his perks, probably not an experienced Freddy (or potentially someone trying for an achievement - although watching the game, I think he's just a lot lower MMR than you chaps).
That's the issue... we've had games where people either was completely less skilled than us. or finally had a equal match. but lets be honest...Sbmm is still a joke and always has been,
I've said it on the stream multiple times that i never hated the guy nor do i have any ability to hate, i still respected the guy and had some sympathy for him, Despite the threats against me, hell i even tried to contact him afterwards trying to apologize.. wouldn't even bother talking to me,
You should have anticipated that he'd had a really rough time of it.
We all have rough games.. We either get chill games or sweat games galore.. there's no between. (and yes harder matches means getting better. slowly but surely) i still said later on that we were a dick to him Yes. but that's already behind us..
However, it didn't end there. After he responded, you began egging him on, saying that you were 'toxic' because he brought a black ward. Why would this justify you being toxic?
You never know when people bring black wards to save items, or to use it to save The Bs items. I.E One shot clown. one shot huntress. double recharge Nurse. Etc.. and killers have been using it more against me cause im a "Streamer" so that special treatment crap is annoyin' so to say..
Next time, get your win, get out, and save your gloating and needling for your audience. If you are going to go out of your way to rile people up, don't be surprised when they get riled up. And absolutely don't come to the forums to tattle about it.
There are waaaay worse people to post on the forums than me... And even then, the FIRST time i tried posting about it and i still get attacked despite me wanting to make amends with said killer,
Hah. Okay, watched the game. I'm actually way less sympathetic to you now. That was...difficult to listen to (let's get real here, this isn't 'SWF being SWF' - you guys are jerks, and clearly proud of it).
Yet you watched only One game of us... If you watched maybe just Alil bit of said games with us, and see that we're getting these killers and whatnot. truth be told.. Nicer than that, we've given killers kills / hook states before. but since we saw a black ward, We started trying due to that, (I'm not saying either side was right. both were wrong in the first place)
Now you can still hate me all you want, but my point stands. i still want to try and make amends with that killer Reguardless...
Idc if he was a killer main or a survivor main, Still human in the end.. and this game.. Not gunna lie.. it sparks bad anger in us all and makes us toxic one way or another...
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@StarLost said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2553592#Comment_2553592
What if...no. There is no 'what if' here.
You were the one that initiated trouble here.
Yes, people can be jerks, but they are irrelevant to the current discussion.
In this discussion, someone had a really rough game and, rather than commiserating with them, you decided to rub it in.
You got that VOD by the way? I'm...skeptical that you weren't the initiator in post-game too.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1167931189 As i do mention i stream... in a very past post.
Don't mind the coms, just my swf being...swf,
Edit: By that. i mean we just wanna loop and Not do gens, that's how we are.
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@StarLost said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2552673#Comment_2552673
Okay.
Why exactly was a teabag needed here?
He went out of his way to win, but either got really unlucky or matched up against a group much better than him, who smashed him into the dirt.
So again - why not just leave, and type something like 'ouch, bad luck man' in the post-game? That would have defused the situation. What you did made it so much worse.
But what if they insulted me beforehand...
Even if you weren't toxic. tbagging in a match, or ANY of the sorts, they'd still get on your ass about something,
I even tried to offer help to the guy. yet still goes on about me being buried 6 feet into the ground. which would make him happy Fyi...
Despite the little tbag... that barely did anything,
(Oh and For The Record. i tried typing that to a survivor team as killer when i did a 5 gen lockdown as clown.. Yeah never again)
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@StarLost said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2551654#Comment_2551654
Regardless, my point stands.
Why did you teabag him in the exit gates after you thrashed him?
He kept trying to wait out endgame with both black box / Bw.
that and he failed to even try to get the endgame kill to work, tis why.
i usually don't tbag. but when you have a blackward with 2 ultra rares. + Bw AND tried to get endgame kills and fail. then a tbag is needed,
otherwise. i just leave,
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@StarLost said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2550095#Comment_2550095
You teabagged at the exit gates - rubbing your stomp in his face.
He definitely shouldn't have reacted like that, but you started it.
And no, I don't believe that you just said 'GG' in the endgame. People don't taunt at the exit gates and not BM in post-game.
I can show you the whole Vod of it...
i don't fuggin lie about my claims when i back em up,
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@StarLost said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2547747#Comment_2547747
While of course threats and the like aren't ever acceptable, you started it by gloating and being jerks after you got an easy win, causing someone to waste some very nice addons.
If you want to poke someone, don't be surprised when they poke back.
We didn't even cause anything to begin with... the guy literally was doin' adept freddy with a blackward. which we didn't know about until the end. that's when he started making said threats...
and it's not my fault when someone takes the game too seriously. (Like said person i just described) plus we didn't say anything else other than gg, at the endgame..
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@DelsKibara said:
I just had to make this thread because reading through the forums gives me a headache sometimes.
I probably should not even be browsing this place right now since I am taking a break from DBD, but holy #########, I didn't think the "Us vs Them" mentality could get worse but it has.
I would just like to remind everyone here that you are not fighting in a war, you're playing a VIDEO GAME. You're playing something for fun. You can literally drop this at any time you want.
Survivor main this, Killer main that... It's getting to the point where no one is actually discussing or talking about anything and just parrot the same ######### over and over again. What's the point of a forum?
Flavour of the week seems to be about Dead Hard and Deathslinger. And instead of any actual discussion about how these two aspects of the game can be changed for the better. It's just a shitshow of people fighting. It's so ######### tiring, I legitimately wonder if BHVR should even listen to threads and suggestions in this forum because it's such an unproductive waste of time.
Not to say I'm not guilty of this myself... But I have gotten weary about it. I have some suggestions for the game which I think could make the game so much better. But I do run the risk of running into people who think my suggestions are rooted in me being "biased" as a "Survivor main" or a "Killer main".
Just... Who gives a ######### about that? I just want this game to be fun for both sides, I want to feel like the Killer is a threat in my survivor games, I want to feel like I have to work for my kills as Killer. How is that not an opinion someone can supposedly have without being a main of something?
I play this game casually, I don't want to feel the need to "git gud". If I make suggestions, it's with fun for both sides in mind. But right now the game is so ######### dull and stale that I just want to see something different.
Urgh... Sorry about the rant, but holy ######### this forum can feel like it's two echo chambers fighting each other. It's enough to drive someone nuts.
Trust me. i wish to have fun too...
But just recently. i just had someone made a Actual Death Threat against me because we 4 outted a black ward freddy...
he had double ultra rares with his perks. course we didn't know it at the time and we tbagged at the exit gate afterwards...
...Lets just say i'm sleeping with a knife next to my hand at night,
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@Aven_Fallen said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2547096#Comment_2547096
Sprint Burst is stronger and this is not even a discussion IMO. Sprint Burst makes every area safe, this is not the case with Dead Hard. You can be in the biggest Deadzone, DH does exactly nothing, Sprint Burst means you are safe. Let alone that it is more frustrating to see Survivors sit on a Gen until the very last second, just to see them zoom off without any risk at all.
When Balanced Landing got nerfed, the players replaced it with DH or Sprint Burst (and some probably with Lithe), if DH gets nerfed, there would be so many Sprint Bursts, it would not be funny at all.
Here's the thing. you can't 99 sprint burst if you're on a gen...
that's the sole reason it's not topping Dh, whereas you needa walk everywhere to make SB work,
compared to dh. even if you don't 99 exhaustion, you get it back while working on a gen
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@C3Tooth said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2547626#Comment_2547626
Did you mean 3 other survivors have to do 5 Gen, 5 totem while Killer tunnel & camping 1 guy with Noed?
It's quite easy if you think about it...
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@Bumbus said:
Just think about it. MMR is balancing your games so you get 50% killrate. Whatever you bring in your games, whatever perks you use, this will be true. So, if you are struggling in your games and don't get any kills - you will get lower MMR and more chill games. However, if you are struggling in your games, but cheese some kills in the end through your perk - your MMR won't get lower. The matchmaking thinks you just had an easy victory, and gives you even more skilled opponents in your next game. And then you have to cheese your kills again. It is a self-sustaining cycle.
Just a thought I wanted to share. I just realized this and dropped NOED from all my builds.
Here's the issue:
You can say the same thing for Survivors about running Ds / Unbreak just bout every match,
Survivors don't need it. yet they get carried by this build. "So just don't tunnel 4head" might be your response.
BUUUUUT. in a game that's severely survivor sided, Tunneling / Camping for a 12 hook is neigh impossible if you don't have survivors making mistakes,
And even if they make mistakes. doesn't take any skill to rush gens.. Yet they still do that, Now my response to all of this in a Nutshell?
just do totems 4head,
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I care about legion too... dun worry...
#SaveLegion2021
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YOU DARE TRY TO WIN AGAINST ME?!!
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WHERE IS THAT DEVOUR?!?!!
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@WexlerWendigo said:
And people have the absolute gall to say the devs are survivor sided, when they’ve been obsessed with spirit for years. Half the anniversary quotes were about her and it took teeth being pulled to get her reworked.
MoM wasn't nerf for 1.5 months...so we had to deal with the very broken meta... of ds / unbreak / bt / MoM
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@EntitySpawn said:
Oh another hacker... think I'm done with DBD for today, fix it :/
the issue is. you can buy a hacked account / hacks on it for like 5$...it's not even possible unless you Sue them,
Like fortnite did, idk how well it went...
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@Myla said:
An add on where it changes your Mori animation to the one in the Silent hill movie where PH rips someone's skins off :^)
"Also causes any console survivors / killer to crash when said skin is halfway ripped due to how buggy the game is"
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I mean..
Not all Killers are gunna play fair my guy, can't expect them to Not always tunnel / camp reguardless.. it's part of the game,
As much as i hate it... it'll be something killers will do,
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or i will fuggin give you the spoopiest picture ever,
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Yes... Or else. >=I
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@jamally093 said:
So I'm wanting to complete those hook save challenges and got saved by a Jill she gets caged by Pyramid head and I rescue he so why doesn't it add progress I saved her didn't I and by the way she lasted more then 10 seconds meaning it was safe so why didn't it progress.
Cause Behavior,
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
Don't let the door hit you on your way out Mr. Slinger :)
Leave mah boi alone >=(
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@Jeromy137 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2526513#Comment_2526513
The hatch still won't show up if there are two or more survivors even if all the gens are done
OH
I actually misread that whole #########' line.... holy ######### i'm dumb asf,
don't mind me, gunna go wash my brain with goddamn bleach
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@SoylentPixie said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2526486#Comment_2526486
Nope.
"First, the hatch will no longer spawn if there’s more than one Survivors in the trial. This means you’ll never have to worry about the last three Survivors vanishing when there’s still one generator left"
I meant to add if all 5 gens got completed.
i'm abit tired so i didn't take that into a situation.. lol
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@ad19970 said:
Dear lord, insane how people still think BHVR only cares for one side.
And because BHVR is so survivor sided, they buffed Trapper and Plague, right? And that's also why they nerfed keys into the ground, right?
Not to mention all the other good changes that killers have gotten in the past.
"Progress does not reset when the Survivor cancels the interaction"
I'm sorry but. they can still 99 the hatch and wait till everyone comes over and bam, instant open hatch lol
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@Pulsar said:
I'm fairly confident that I am retiring from playing Killer. I'm upset and worked up, so don't expect logical ingenuity.
I've tried to give MMR a fair shot, but most if not all of my matches have been miserable.
I've played around 50 Pinhead games, 10 Freddy games, 30 Nemesis games, 2 Blight games and maybe 25 of a variety of other Killers. I have routinely received the exact same Survivors, regardless of the Killer I play.
I have NEVER played Freddy on my account. I did not even own him. My first match with no perks and no add-ons and I get put up against a 4-stack I had just played as Nemesis. There is no individual Killer MMR, or if there is, it means nothing. I'm calling BHVR out on that.
The final straw was today. I've been trying to play Blight for days, but queue's are so long that I can't seem to manage it. I finally got into a match. I took one chase and 3 gens popped. Took another chase and two more popped.
Two hooks. 5 gens. Everyone gets out. Incredibly fun and engaging gameplay. Especially when I SAT IN A QUEUE FOR 45 MINUTES.
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/84YIZ7KFMJO1/20210920-230553.jpg
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/MN8IB1VXE6DL/20210920-230625.jpg
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/IOFFK9T5LUXS/20210920-230630.jpg
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/DWSQ52Z3YX1Q/20210920-230711.jpg
Those are their hours. Here's mine.
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/U5ADRXXA16YB/20210920-230715.jpg
I don't give a ######### anymore if the game is balanced at high Ranks. Just make it fun because Jesus Christ, this system sucks and I am pissed beyond belief that it went live without any changes to the game.
Welcome to what i've been trying to WARN people the last 2 years. Nobody wanted to even believe in how bad this SBMM Is in this shite game that's purely RNG on weather or not you'll have a good time,
even if you got the Best RNG as killer. you'll still lose due to alot of factors. (I.E 6 second chances on perks. + the 3 hooks, etc)
Sbmm was a terrible thing they tried to add. i already knew this bs outcome, and sadly i was right. even i'm having to sweat when i didn't have to, and i don't dare touch other killers because of how bad it is,
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I wish they removed rotten fields! but i ain't bitchin bout saloon!
Atleast saloon can grant me pallets unlike rotten fields... i'll get lost in that damn Corn...
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@GeneralV said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2508834#Comment_2508834
Then you are in for a ride!
-Revert Freddy back to his on-release version.
-Revert The Realm Beyond entirely.
-Revert Billy back to his old version.
-Revert Hex: Ruin back to its old version.
-Add menu customization.
-Delete the All-Kill Chapter.
-Bring Splinters back.
-Bring Moonlight offerings back.
-Delete Dead Dawg Saloon
And this list goes on and on. I am the most old-fashioned player this community has ever seen, so naturally I would change a lot of things.
Remove Dead Dawg Saloon
WATJOO GOT AGAINST A COWBOI MAP!?!?!
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2508598#Comment_2508598
I think we should adopt a kitten together!
Did I stutterOr a doggo!
I will fuggin show you a damn good time if you keep this up...
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@konchok said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2504999#Comment_2504999
You can absolutely play without slow-down if you're good enough. Go to twitch and look up KaiZ. He plays without slow-down with every killer and does really well. Send us some of your high MMR games as survivor where you bully killers.
Trapper would like to have a Word...
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@Leachy_Jr said:
If you're looking for advice on slinger please be careful on who you watch for tips, tricks and perk builds
Please:
Don't run tinkerer on slinger for the love of god. It's not worth
ESPECIALLY do NOT run tinkerer on slinger WITH MONITOR AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Monitor is good for weak slinger maps such as badham or lerys, but gets screwed by spine chill, SWF and is a wasted perk slot on a good map for him. It is nowhere near his best perk so do not treat it that way
Ruin undying is meh on him, Ruin pop is much better
NOED is unironically great on him
Don't use shadowborn unless you want to get addicted, you have been warned
Insta firing around corners does not work against good players who will take loops wider to have more dodging options. It is a great strat against weaker players just don't get in the habit of it unless you know you will hit the shot.
Prison chain is highly overrated, it gives you 0.233 seconds more assuming the chain is burning and the survivor is resisting. Use bayshores cigar/tobacco instead to help against predroppers
Reload/missed shot cool down add ons are addictive but carry his macro hard. If you want to learn how to control his 1v4 use 0 add ons unless you're having a bad day or memeing
He is NOT a good totem defender
Lethal is probably his 2nd best perk
No corrupt = instant lose
Ok advice over, I just wanted to vent after seeing 2 content creators unironically using tinkerer on slinger when they could be using Lethal, Save or anything else. You will lose with how map dependant he is if you don't have the right perks.
A good MMR build is Pop, Lethal, Save and Corrupt. Replace Pop with BBQ if you're getting baby survivors.
The one Slinger build i always ran on him was as Follows:
Stbfl. Montior Pop Corrupt,
The build i'm doing rn is: Ruin, Bw, Stbfl, Bbq. (just p3 level 50'd em. so not the Best perks.)
Bw is also a scary perk on slinger if you can manage to snag a last second shot at a exit gate,
Also a tip to people wanting to actually play slinger and main him 100%
BE PATIENCE WITH HIS SHOTS,
Please... for the love of god. i've seen alot of slingers miss easy shots,
Like this vod for example. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1151788933 I missed acouple due to not being patience, but i was also exhausted that day..
Not my Best... But not my worst,
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@Star99er said:
Me and my SWF group all of a sudden can't get into a lobby, we click play as survivor and our game gets stuck. We've tried restarting the Game and still can't play.
Get Bhvr'd Nerd,
Edit: Jokes asides. im on dbd atm. no issues for me..
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@MadLordJack said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2499692#Comment_2499692
I have no idea if that's sarcasm or not, but suffice it to say that it's almost impossible to get DS'd without tunneling.
It's not really Sarcasm...
I'm saying that'd be waaay too op. giving survivors 5 Perks like that? Unless you're making killers get pop basekit..
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@MadLordJack said:
Hopefully they start with removing hardcore camping, tunneling and slugging. Knockout getting a rework and Blindness not applying to slugs seems like a good start, followed by basekit DS and some early-game warmup or something of the sort. The system itself takes care of genrushing, so that's fantastic.
Then they can move on to perk changes, as as I like to dream of it, "who gives a #########, we're a casual game so let's go hog wild and change a bunch every week".
Then we can come to the add-ons and killers and such. With the new MMR the killers themselves should be fine, but there aplenty of little things that need changed. Spirit getting her breathing bug back and basekit, Legion having a second knocked off their stun, that sort of thing.
And finally... There is no finally, it's a live-service game.
Edit: HOLDING W!!! I almost forgot, they can nerf the crap out of the W key! I haven't gone against that since MMR was switched on, but I imagine it's still a huge problem.
Basekit ds will be too op, Js,
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@Marc_go_solo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2498513#Comment_2498513
Trapper is a weaker killer, sure. He's also a late-game demon. Trick with him is to isolate the last 4 gens or so. Keep them close by and set up a trapper's paradise for when survivors charge in (and they'll most likely be feeling confident), which will lure them into making mistakes.
Sure you won't win every time. But then again it's not expected to. However, it gives you a better chance :D
Despite him being the cover for the game. WE NEED EM BUFFED
#BuffTrapper2021
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@BingBongMan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2498521#Comment_2498521
I spent a million bloodpoints and I still didn't get Franklin's or Hoarder. Not even barbecue showed up for pinhead.
Sadge...
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@chargernick85 said:
Lol my Pinhead will never get Hoarder (Shows up all the time on my other killers) and by the time I do get it? Nerfed.
I feel this...
STAPH GIVING ME COUP DE GRACE FLASHBACKS!!!!
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@Aven_Fallen said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2498488#Comment_2498488
Because you faced Potatoes before. This is why you were able to do stuff like that, you are not at that Level, but you got boosted because you played against Potato Survivors. Apparently many Killers have high MMR and only a few Survivors (which also explains the long queue times).
If you keep playing, you should end up at a chill level at some point.
The issue with this statement?
Say you're at the max... 1900 Mmr. you're already facing alot of survivors up here as it stands,
Then lets say you have variety in your killers.. for me that's 25 ish of them,
Now if i wanted to go play trapper, He's already at 1900 mmr as it stands, aswel with like many other killers. But pinhead? he started at 1700 so when i had gone for adept on em, i only got sweats galore when i don't even know how to use said power..
There's some killers that standa chance and other killers you might as well afk...
And the sad part is. Not all my games before SBMM was potatoes, some were actually Decent, but bleet flicks best flicks,
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@Marc_go_solo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2498477#Comment_2498477
In response to the first point, the reason I respect lesser ised perks is not because of skill, moreover someone is willing to try something different. I respect that more for people thinking beyond the few big ones, but doesn't mean I think poorly of others.
And second point, I have won with bad perks against swf. And others have. And many more will. Maybe there is a better chance, but with a mindset as you described, you've already talked yourself into a loss. Skill can outweigh any perk, when learnt well.
Not when you wanna play a low tier killer with a meme build,
Those killers already don't stand a chance =D. (Mainly lookin at you trapper)
And sadly. i Used to have fun with trapper. Now i can't even look at him in this...Mmr!!
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@VikingWilson said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2497828#Comment_2497828
That's the beauty of it, you CAN shut your brain off and play, but, that's life in general. You CAN shut off your brain.
Or, you could understand that DBD isn't a laidback game. People go in saying, "I just wanted a chill match." It's DBD, that doesn't happen. It's not a game for chill mode.
Can't really shut off my brain if i was already at the max Mmr..
So i'm experiencing living hell just about every match. (Including Pinhead which i barely play aswel)
@Aven_Fallen said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2497828#Comment_2497828
You decide if you want to sweat or not. It is not like anyone is forcing you to do so. You wont get anything for having high MMR anyway, so no reason to sweat.
And from my experience, those who currently complain about needing to sweat were already sweating before. Like, always strong Add-Ons, always Meta-Perks, mostly strong Killers.
I didn't sweat in my previous matches at all.. At times all i did was wanting to get clips with huntress with a all seeing build,
Or flicks with blights, Hell. even M2illy on curves, and it still for whatever reason put me at high mmr...
That and being a Variety killer now sucks.. which i don't dare play any other killer other than the high tier killers,
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@Marc_go_solo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2497158#Comment_2497158
I have no idea why you said that, since it has no bearing on what I said. Note that I wrote "there is no perk that shows you to be a bad killer"
Read comment properly. Nuff said.
there are perks that show you are a gutsy and good player, and those are lesser-used ones
Those players I respect much more than those who stick to the norm
No perks dictate skill when it's the meta..
perks which are not high on the meta, but a good victory with these shows you're more skilled and less reliant on perks.
Perks which are not high on the meta, but a good victory with these shows you're more skilled and less reliant on perks.
Issue is. you won't win with bad perks when you verse a swf that just pre-throws against you and rushes gens, =D
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@glitchboi said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2497821#Comment_2497821
Shadowborn doesn't stack with Monitor.
Unless you mean le 3 double eye perks for killer (not sure if they're the only three).
technically they're the only three eye perks,
2 Op if paired together! =D
(Justa meme)