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I like the changes to leader and prove thyself. But the "maybe" change to SC will ruin everything.Vietfox said:
@TsulanTsulan said:
Please, for the love of God. Don't go live with this change. SC is good as it is. Survivors use We'll make it and heal others.not_Queen said:That's why it's in TESTING right now (like we did the hatch closing)
We will be looking at feedback on this one.
If this change goes through, no one will bother to heal others and people will even be forced to use it.
Glad we agree
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Yes, prove thyself even gives a BP point bonus to coop actions.Dwight_Fairfield said:They got buffed?
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Terror radius got increased. I'd call this a nerf, because going out of crouch to run a short distance is less viable.Delfador said:@Tsulan said:
TL/DR:
Mainly survivor buffs and a pig nerf.
Surveillance got buffed (good buff) and Iron Maiden nerfed.
Oh and no Freddy changes (what a surprise)There is no pig nerf.
Before this update, her crouch speed was 1 second with combat addon, now it is still 1 second but much less addon dependent since they decreased her crouch time from 2 seconds to 1.3. It is almost like built in addon.
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Please, for the love of God. Don't go live with this change. SC is good as it is. Survivors use We'll make it and heal others.not_Queen said:That's why it's in TESTING right now (like we did the hatch closing)
We will be looking at feedback on this one.
If this change goes through, no one will bother to heal others and people will even be forced to use it. -
It's good now. I even consider taking it into my rotation.Shad03 said:Since I am but a mere pleb can someone tell me what changes they did to Surveillance? Because if it is good then I'd feel bad that I ignored it every time it appeared on my Legions bloodweb.
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My prediction: SC goes back to normal. No one will bother to heal. Everyone will use SC.
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So PTB is live. Freddy rework for 2020....
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TL/DR:
Mainly survivor buffs and a pig nerf.
Surveillance got buffed (good buff) and Iron Maiden nerfed.
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So uhm... why do only weak killers open clubs? To much spare time?
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In how many matches?Shad03 said:I just killed four people. Am I allowed to join?
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So it seems.Cardgrey said: -
Cool, I found someone who can defend 4 gens at the same time.Demoth said:NOED is a crutch, but so many killers are absolute ass at stopping generators from being popped like crazy that it almost becomes necessary for some in order to not basically become an auto-depip.
I would be fine with these changes if BHVR would continue to fix some of the mechanics surrounding how stealth and chases work, but right now a lot of killers simply can't do ######### without NOED to fall back on.
Please teach us senpai. -
@Peanits can you close this thread please?
Or at least move it to the spam folder? -
So let's punish people that don't want to play with or against red ping.
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You're welcomePoweas said:Ok. Thanks a lot.
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Everyone.
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Killer bugs take longer...
Because priorities. -
Trash brutal Strength and for the love of God, take Franklin's.
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The killer nerfs have been to much. Killer mains abandoned the game...
Lol
just kidding.
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Horror movies must be boring for you.fluffybunny said:
A lot of that lack of fear comes from knowing you're a person with feelings and desires. Become a robot.Attackfrog said:If survivors were actually scared to be around the killers.
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Here we go again with the lag switcher myth...fluffybunny said:
Killer nerf if you use lag switches to get your kills.Master said:@Nickenzie said:
Master said:SO that competent SWF can bully every killer then? Sounds like utopian "balance" indeed
Nope, utopian means ideal so the generator rework is already in effect, all killer's are balanced, perks are balanced, and... basically there's nothing wrong with the game. How would bring Nurse down to a reasonable level? I'm curious because the community wants to nerf her when the time comes.
You need to be a bit more precise when you are talking about a "generator rework".
Dedicated servers shouldnt affect the balance at all if executed properly, but in reality they will be a killer nerf
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Back when hooks could be permanently sabotaged, Iron Grip was strong enough to carry a survivor over half of the map.powerbats said:@Tsulan said:
I would be totally ok with DS losing its auto escape and instead having a temp stun. While increasing its possible uses. (testing required)
IF (only if) Iron Grip gets back to its old status.
I would also buff Boil Over to actually make wiggling out faster.The 1st yes but perhaps you have to do SAFE UNHOOKS to get more uses but each usage gets reduced in effectiveness. So if it's a 6 seconds stun (not an actual number placeholder only) then the next time it's 5 seconds and so on.
What was Iron Grip's old Status and how would affect say non DS users?
Yes I've always thought that perk is worthless unless you're on a map tile where it's useful.
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To each his own...thesuicidefox said:@Tsulan said:
Avatar must have been an adult movie for you...Eh... they aren't covered in blood. It's less sexy.
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@Poweas said:
@Tsulan said:
I would make it easier to learn her.
She has at the same time the lowest and highest kill rate. She´s terrible on rank 20. A nightmare for new players. Many new Nurse players get bullied.
I would like to change this. Make her newbie friendlier.I learnt her in 2 games on PC. I still haven't learnt Spirit in about 30 games and I struggle as Billy (but that's because I'm not used to getting looped since I only play Nurse, Hag and Spirit).
Her difficulty is highly exaggerated, she's not as hard as Spirit. To me she's only most difficult on Yamoka estate map.
See, i have no problems with Billy. Nurse depends on the day. But i hate her exhaustion. Being forced to watch the floor tiles is one of the most boring things ever.
Haven´t played both of them for awhile. Since i usually play "underdog" killers. -
A NASCAR racetrack. You know... a big circle. Since running in circles is the most favorite thing for high rank survivors, i would dedicate a map to them.
I also imagine a Billy endlessly rushing through the racetrack. No obstackles, just pure speed. -
I would make it easier to learn her.
She has at the same time the lowest and highest kill rate. She´s terrible on rank 20. A nightmare for new players. Many new Nurse players get bullied.
I would like to change this. Make her newbie friendlier. -
@NoShinyPony said:
@Tsulan said:
@NoShinyPony said:
@Tsulan said:
OP based the problem of the 2 perks on their popularity.Where did you read that?
The Title?
The title is "DS and NOED is getting out of hand". That does not equal to "if fewer people played DS and NOED, these perks would be balanced".
But let's not get lost about a choice of words and instead focus back on if NOED and DS should be reworked.
I would be totally ok with DS losing its auto escape and instead having a temp stun. While increasing its possible uses. (testing required)
IF (only if) Iron Grip gets back to its old status.
I would also buff Boil Over to actually make wiggling out faster. -
@powerbats said:
@Tsulan said:
Freudentrauma said:@Tsulan said:
I see far more SC than DS or NOED. But I guess SC isn't broken, right?
Just because you see one perk more than another, it doesn't mean it's completely broken. Survivors take SC more often, so they don't have to rely on their teammates or chest rng, when it comes to healing. But I rarely see survivors healing themselfs, since the healing changes. Only if necessary, because it takes quite long.
DS on the other hand is more broken, considering how much it can lengthen a chase, which is much more devastating for a killer.
OP argued that DS and NOED must be broken, because he sees them every match.
Just following that logic.I don't see SC every match as killer and on my fellow survivors I see Bond more along with DH/AD combos. But as a solo I run it since i don't know if I'm paired with depip squad skilled players or a bunch of Idaho potato farmers.
Hey, nothing against idaho potato farmers
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@NoShinyPony said:
@Tsulan said:
OP based the problem of the 2 perks on their popularity.Where did you read that?
The Title?
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@ChesterTheMolester said:
Tsulan said:
ChesterTheMolester said:
Tsulan said:I would take that ultra rare addon that let's her see where she lands and make it base line.
End of changes.
That would be a great nerf, since that beam is really distracting, kinda like CSGOs disgusting default crosshair.
Ok baseline might be to much. But at least make it a grey addon. I don't understand the dev logic behind that addon. Since it's clearly addressed to new players. But at the same time ultra rare.
I agree, because it makes no sense. But even then i'd ask new players not to use it.
It would give new players at least an idea on where they´ll land. Once muscle memory kicks in, they won´t need it. Part why she is so hard, is because new players don´t know her range.
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@Orion said:
Teach Survivors stealth.Blasphemy!
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Ok baseline might be to much. But at least make it a grey addon. I don't understand the dev logic behind that addon. Since it's clearly addressed to new players. But at the same time ultra rare.ChesterTheMolester said:
That would be a great nerf, since that beam is really distracting, kinda like CSGOs disgusting default crosshair.Tsulan said:I would take that ultra rare addon that let's her see where she lands and make it base line.
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@Nickenzie said:
Master said:SO that competent SWF can bully every killer then? Sounds like utopian "balance" indeed
Nope, utopian means ideal so the generator rework is already in effect, all killer's are balanced, perks are balanced, and... basically there's nothing wrong with the game. How would bring Nurse down to a reasonable level? I'm curious because the community wants to nerf her when the time comes.
Nurse IS on a reasonable lvl.
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@NoShinyPony said:
@Tsulan said:
I see far more SC than DS or NOED. But I guess SC isn't broken, right?Nope. It takes super long to selfcare without items, I don't see a problem with this perk.
Also NOED is fine and doesn't need to be changed imho. DS however needs a rework.
OP based the problem of the 2 perks on their popularity. There is no other perk around that is as popular as SC.
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I would take that ultra rare addon that let's her see where she lands and make it base line.
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Yeah they also said no clowns...Nickenzie said:
@not_Queen told me they aren't coming to console.Tsulan said:"After the many threads asking for legacy, we are happy to announce that legacy is coming back and to all platforms. To keep it's rare status we've decided to price it 100$ per set or 40$ per piece"
*BHVR
Wouldn't be surprised if they do something like that to finance the dedicated servers.
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We need a slider or something to adjust the difficulty and therefore payment of the dailies.DwightsLifeMatters said:
Me too, I always saved up 2 Dailys with 60k BP if I wanted to extend the BP cap for new DLC. Also it was in general better cuz u had more BP in the end of the day. I usually do a "daily" in one match. Not really a challengeVortexas said:@DwightsLifeMatters said:
PhantomMask20763 said:Yes I have, just recently actually. Didnt get a screenshot tho sorry. It was hit 4 survivors while in feral frenzy, I think it rewarded either 40,000 bps or 60,000. I think it was 40,000
Are u serious?? I had the exact same daily but only got 25k points. Is this game f+cking me right now? Oof, I knew something is wrong. The last time I got a 60k daily is months ago
yea they removed all the high bp ones except the various Mori ones.
I actually miss the heavy ones like Chainsaw 12 survivors and what not.
So people can decide if they prefer
Short and easy ones like we have now.
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"After the many threads asking for legacy, we are happy to announce that legacy is coming back and to all platforms. To keep it's rare status we've decided to price it 100$ per set or 40$ per piece"
*BHVR
Wouldn't be surprised if they do something like that to finance the dedicated servers.
So you might get "lucky"! -
That would be unreliable. A crouching pig is slow af. Going into crouching instead of breaking the pallet would even cost more time.Orion said:Do you mean during the actual lunge, or just when she's crouching? I could see it work when she's crouching, give her the same vault animations as Survivors, but not during the actual lunge.
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OP argued that DS and NOED must be broken, because he sees them every match.Freudentrauma said:@Tsulan said:
I see far more SC than DS or NOED. But I guess SC isn't broken, right?Just because you see one perk more than another, it doesn't mean it's completely broken. Survivors take SC more often, so they don't have to rely on their teammates or chest rng, when it comes to healing. But I rarely see survivors healing themselfs, since the healing changes. Only if necessary, because it takes quite long.
DS on the other hand is more broken, considering how much it can lengthen a chase, which is much more devastating for a killer.
Just following that logic. -
I want a NASCAR racetrack as map.
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I see far more SC than DS or NOED. But I guess SC isn't broken, right?
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Dedicated servers won't solve the problems this game has, and might even cause more.
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I can count the lag switchers I've faced in 1100+ hours on 1 hand. But this might be my personal perception. Since I don't count simple lag as lag switching.
I've even seen people complain that a lag switcher messed up their skill checks. When those are client sided.
I don't know what to expect from dedicated servers. Since BHVR might not have the money to spread a ton of dedicated servers. So people might get even worse lag than they got now.
What I do know, is that people will always blame others for their failure. So if it's not a lag switcher, because the game is hosted on dedicated servers, they'll call out a DDOS attack as excuse. "Yeah that killer totally DDOSed me man!" -
Other killers do exactly the same. Follow the blood.Poweas said:@Tsulan said:
So you are scared that buffing the weakest killer would turn him into a top tier killer?
Better keep him in a vegetative state for over a year like Freddy...I think he's referring to the fact that they have absolutely no counterplay and can just follow the blood and get ez downs. It'll need to be adressed, because even with a built in Frank's mixtape, it'll still get abused.
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Neither are worth taking.
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I don't expect politeness from anyone. Both sides do what they can to win.Poweas said:@Tsulan said:
So... uh... if NOED isn't a problem. Then why do you ask in another thread for a nerf?I have really mixed feelings about it. I want it to be nerfed but at the same time, I literally run Adrenaline and you pointed out to me how similar they are. But this thread is irrelevant to what I think, this thread is to tell killers if they tunnel, camp (for no reason) and use noed in 1 game they should not expect to get politeness from survivors. And especially not one that outruns their NOED (that's me btw I outran it, im very proud lol.)
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So... uh... if NOED isn't a problem. Then why do you ask in another thread for a nerf?