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@Kagrenac said:
That's a latency issue my friend
Killer is the host still. As so forth, they play the game with effective zero latency.
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@ZombieGirlORV said:
I've been wondering this myself. It should be a 4 to 1 ratio, but because of the difference in wait times for lobbies I decided to look it up, but exact numbers are difficult to find.
The first bit of information I found is from October 2018 in a steam forum.(https://steamcommunity.com/app/381210/discussions/0/1733216261954714867/)Someone commented that there is an "Over abundance of killers." but that isn't really an estimate and there's no source for where their numbers come from.
The next place I went was here, where I looked at the discussions along the side bar. Currently there are 4.5K discussions in the killers chat room and only 3.8k in the survivors. This should also give us a good idea of how many are playing them as mains, but I'm betting not everyone who plays visits the web sight. That aside it does give us a good indication of who does visit, and who talks in the chat rooms. Looking at the numbers it's easy to see that killers are way more likely to participate in the forums rather than survivors. Which means, if they're looking for information regarding what the community wants, it's most likely skewed in the killers favor. As the balance of the game dictates a 4 to 1 ratio, this is really bad for the game. Even if they did a vote to see what people wanted the numbers would be likely to come out skewed in the killers favor, because their votes would overpower the killers. That's a problem that probably needs looking into.
I would disagree with that last bit. Killers simply talk more than Survivors in my opinion.
You also have to realize that all Killers are different. Which means a wide verity of gameplay for each Killer, different powers and abilities. Survivor gameplay is static, there isn’t no difference other than what perks to use. So many come to the forums looking for tips and advice on how to best play certain Killers. Where and its universal for Survivor.
Think of it like this : there are 15 (soon to be 16) different Killers all requiring different play styles. There are many questions about how to best play each one, specifically at base, as well as best add on combos, perks that synergies well with that Killer and their power.
Survivor is the same across the board. There is no difference in gameplay other than perk selection. This, no real questions. Not much reason to discuss gameplay as a Survivor.
Thats why there’s such and offset of Killers to Survivors on the forums. Killers have more to discuss, Survivors don’t.
In my experience, most Survivors Mains come to the forums just to complain about Killers, camping, Tunneling, and “OP Killers/Perks.” Killers complain about survivor items, perks, and Looping mind you. However, with added discussion about how best to play each individual Killer and add on’s, perks, and such.
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Not at all. Deep Wounds does nothing but stall the game for both sides. Killer waste time applying it, Survivors waste time mending. It's does absolutely nothing progression wise for either side. It's a pointless mechanic and it's pointless to even use Legion's power.
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The amount of people defending Killers doing this is sad to see. Two wrongs don’t make it right.
Doesn't matter which side you’re playing, don’t be an #########.
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Your name says it all for you.
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@Arroz said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/460122#Comment_460122
Do you have any proof? did you listen all the BHVR TEAM saying they are survivors mains?, stop with the false information.
Most are Survivor Mains. Though they play little amount of Killer except for Not_Queen and Horvath. They play a lot of Killer.
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@RakimSockem said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/458725#Comment_458725
I don't disagree with any of that. I agree that having a 4 man group and being able to communicate increases your chance of living. In fact, I would even argue that it brings the game to a level of balance in MY mind (2 kills and 2 escapes is my idea of a balanced game but I know MANY people disagree with that).
Once again, I know SWF is stronger than solo queue in every way. What I'm saying is that the strength is not game breaking.
You forget that the statistics include Survivors who d/c as kills. Also, let not forget the amount of Survivors who die AFTER they have already won by powering the exit gates and opening the exit. Simply because they go suicidal altruistic to save that’s ONE DUDE who got unlucky and caught at the end of the match. You want real stats? Show me how many Survivors are alive/dead when the Gens are done. No endgame, and soon as the gens are done.
i bet you the ratio will be average of 50%+ of games have 3-4 Survivors alive at that point.
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@SlinkyJinky said:
Here's how to counter MoM for 11 out of 15 Killers, the remaining 4 can counter it by not letting the MoM token build to 3 or just chasing them down and hitting them again.
M2 Killer Counters:
- Chainsaws (one shot down + gives no MoM token)
- Hatchet (gives no MoM token)
- Corrupt Plague affliction (gives no MoM token)
Accommodations for M1 Killers: (The below gives no MoM token)
- Wraith - Surprise Attack from Stealth
- Hag - Surprise Attack from Teleport
- Nurse Blink - Surprise Attack from Blink
- Spirit - Surprise Attack from Phase Walk
- Pig - Stealth Attack & Reverse Bear Trap
- Myres - T3 One Shot Down
- Trapper - Traps for partial counter + Honing Stone for total counter
Killers that must hard counter by either:
- Chasing them down and hitting them again (means you can hook them again)
- Not letting the Survivor get to 3 hits to activate MoM (means they don't get to use MoM)
Legion - (post balance patch) Darn
Freddy - Darn
Clown - Darn
Doctor - Darn
Literally the first three plus Myers T3 and Survivors stepping in Trapper traps are the only counters. Surprise attacks are bugs and will be fixed as well as Nurse blink attack.
That means 6 Killers can counter MoM. Even then, don’t think you can really call it a counter on Trapper as they need to step in traps, that not on you as Trapper, that’s not on the Survivors not paying attention.
Pig head pops? You’re actually joking with that statement, right? Please tell me you are joking.
Honestly, 4 Killers have hard counters after the others get bug fixes. One more has a soft counter.
Yeah... really counterable perk...
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its simple. It’s pre-patch DS all over again. Free get away for getting hit. Who the hell cares if it’s reveals your aura? You’re just going to use it to Loop some more.. Survivors don’t care if the Killer knows where they are.
Only counter is playing a Killer that’s can do damage with M2, camp them on hook, or play Nurse who can deal with it.
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Yes, I do. Same as I looked down on Survivors who used the old DS. Same as I looked down on Killers who use NOED.
I don’t berate them in end game chat, but I still look down on them. If you know something is overpowered and you use it anyway, then I have a problem with it. You don’t use overpowered crap. That takes the challenge of the game away and you might as well be playing a single player game on easy mode.
I’m 13 hours into Sekiro right now and I love how long I had to beat my face off Lady Butterfly and Genichiro of Ashina. It’s why I stopped playing DBD for now. Too many kids willing to abuse badly balanced perks, add ons, and busted game mechanics cause they need instant gratification of winning all the time.
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No. 60 seconds wasted leaving you on the floor and giving time for your team mates to heal you up is plenty. However, make it more than one use. Tunneling is a "more than once" occasion. You will get downed twice at least off hook, give it two uses.
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I’m not so great with Clown. That’s about it for me. Though part of me says the reason is just because he has crap map pressure. I’m on PS4 and PC (started on PS4, went to PC but I still play my PS4 account). I’ve mastered even Nurse on PS4, so I don’t see what my issue is with Clown.
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@Tru3Lemon said:
now brothers its time to say to the killers its time to adapt like they said to us XD
Sure , I’ll adapt. I’ll just camp whoever I catch out the full three hook phases so they cant get the “three strikes” to activate MoM. Sounds good right?
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@NMCKE said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/400217#Comment_400217
Frustrating? Yes, you have a point there but unplayable? No, you did very well against a group of survivors who should have destroyed you.
Nick, just saying your missing the point. "Should have" doesn't account for one thing. Player Skill. This wasn't even a Red Ranks game. you think these Survivor's were playing super optimal style. Where they playing SWF? Imagine a SWF of optimal survivors running these perks in the Red Ranks.
Don't think of it as what you see, think of the potential for abuse. Go ALL the way down thr rabbit hole to see where it leads, not half way and say "I've seen enough to make my deliberation".
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@xChrisx said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/401815#Comment_401815
The ds buff is good against tunnelers? You hate it? Dont tunnel the same guy, get good. And mettle (my personal opinion) for me its a counter for all the toxicity i get.
DS is good now. It's anti tunnel, honestly I think it needs buffed a bit. It needs to have more than one use, getting tunneled is a "more than once" process.
Like it or not, MoM is basically original DS. Soaking a down so the Killer has to chase you again for another hit to down. The only counter is camping.
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More or less saying MoM was supposed to be a new DS unless you can insta-down with your Killer, get a leg trap with Trapper, Huntress Hatchet hit, Bleed out timer hits zero with Legion, (MAYBE) Dash Attack with Pig.
Good Job Devs... you lose too many Survivor Mains when you nerfed DS or something? Only counter to MoM is camping a dude out so he can't get hit three times to get MoM.
Nice to know Bad Survivor players still get to control the balance of the game with their wallets.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Kbtr4xM67o
I wasn't Killer, but this is me and 3 randoms. 4 minutes flat.
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“A snake is still a snake, no matter how many times it sheds it skin”. That all I have to say about it. I believe in second chances, but he’s had several, and burned them all.
Just no, not happening. Not for me.
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@thesuicidefox said:
Same as the usual tier list. Nurse is still the strongest, despite what people say, she's just harder to use at her maximum potential than on PC. Same with Huntress. There is a dude I played a few times that plays both of these killers and is CRAZY good with them. Like sniping from across the map and over short walls with Huntress to perfect blinks with Nurse. I told him to get on the forums and show people his clips and make it clear that these killers are not trash on console like people believe, so far he hasn't taken up the offer.
So because they are harder you see way fewer top quality Nurse/Huntress players. But they do exist, this guy was just one from recent memory. Most suck though because the killers are so hard to play.
Not sure if i'm as good as the guy you're talking about, but you're right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H8b5cgu35Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1376HwI65E0&t=69s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQUVljQhTDY&t=3s -
It needs more than one use. Being tunneled is a match long process, not one time thing. Give it two uses or all three. Other than that, it’s fine. It does need a buff, but not a huge one.
As for Enduring, that’s a perk to counter a perk. Deal with it.
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Quit complaining your freebie for screwing up got taken away.
That being said, the new DS needs a buff. It needs unlimited uses. One and done doesn’t justify it a perk slot.
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The only thing about this perk that too strong is he potential for SWF on voice comms to body body hooks WAY too effectively.
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@Arsoul said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/51609/is-this-ok-for-survivors-to-do
GRR NERF SURVIVOR MORE NERF NERF
Oh, like how Survivors whined and complained about face camping? When the Killer used their hitboxes to body block the hook prompt? Yeah, that was an exploit... yet Survivors can do that EXACT same thing but it's Ok. Cool beans.
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The same way as when DS was nerfed the first time. Nobody will use it for a few months... then everyone will run it again soon after once they get over their initial REEEE'ing over it being nerfed.
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Hope too see you sometime! Name is SoveriegnKing on PSN. I play both sides, so you can be my Killer or a Survivor. Welcome aboard and good luck in the fog!
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Wait, Trapper is black?! Dude, I need to get my eyes checked.Nickenzie said:
Yes, this quote above sums it all up. However, I'll add on that this wouldn't be a thing if people won't assume the worst out of the smallest things. BHVR made Claudette, Trapper, Doctor, Tapp, and recently Adam who are... Drum Rolls... Black (and more too come)! Additionally, I heavily doubt BHVR is racist, like c'mon man are you serious?EntityDispleased said:Holy ######### when did these people come up here? LF is a serial killer that wears the faces of his victims. And you know, Claudette happened to be black. Would you like Claudette to have never existed at all in the first place and all of the original survivors would be white instead? You really are scraping the bottom of the barrel trying to find racist ######### that isn't there. Leave this garbage at Twitter please. -
There is only two logical conclusions about this person Chester :ChesterTheMolester said:
Explain.Ayeknill_lava said:@SnakeSound222 said:
What? Dude people have been using racist insults in video games for decades. People have been racist in this game ever since it released in 2016. Removing the Claudette face will not stop people from being racist in this game. They’ll just use other ways. Are you just trolling now?
Attitudes like yours appropriate racism.
1. It’s a troll. Which bravo, amazing bait. You got a LOT of biters.
2. It’s a P.O.C who wants to oppress non-P.O.C for either :
A. Some sick and twisted form of revenge against non-P.O.C. Either having been the victim of racism him/her self and is choosing a random outlet to get his/her “vengeance” on the racist who wronged him/her. That, or is attempting to get revenge for P.O.C, for the wrongs committed by the ancestors of non-P.O.C.
To the OP: I am not my ancestors, I have done NOTHING to wrong P.O.C. The developers have done NOTHING to wrong P.O.C. If this is the case then shame on you, for you are the one being racist. You are treating non-P.O.C like we’re monsters and terrible people simply because we’re not of color.
B. This a a P.O.C who simply wants to oppress non-P.O.C. Simply because they find it funny they can play the “that’s racist card” and get away with calling non-P.O.C all sorts of names, and doing whatever they please. If you DARE try to stop whatever they even try, you’re racist.
This person is using racism as a weapon to manipulate and oppress. Just the other way around than classic non-P.O.C racism toward P.O.C. I’ve seen this many times and it’s sickening to see. A P.O.C... appropriating and using racism as a weapon. It’s just sick and twisted. -
I’m just going to say this now : It doesn’t matter if it wasn’t included or is.
If it wasn’t included : “Devs are racist, why is Claudette the only one without a mask? Is it because she’s black?!”
No matter what, P.O.C who want to see racism in anything will find a way. To be totally frank, someone saying this is perpetuating racism. You’re looking for it because you want it, you want to make non-P.O.C feel bad for the atrocities of the past. Doesn’t matter if it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with racism.
In this case the developers made no special treatment for Claudette being black. You should be happy for that. If she did get treated special for being black, you’d complain. She doesn’t get treated special for being black, you still complain. It’s a Catch 22, there is no way to please those who WANT to see it. It’s people like that who don’t want equality, they want to oppress themselves. They want to flip the tide, and be the oppressors because they want revenge for their ancestors being oppressed. Either that or they just want special treatment for whatever, and be able to get away with anything so they play the race card to guilt trip.
Claudette is just another Survivor, her face is just another face. She’s not different or special just because she’s black. Be happy they are not treating her special and “different”. She’s equal to all the other Survivors. Just as all P.O.C in the real world are equal to everyone who is not of color. Leave the past in the past, and move on. -
It’s called playing to win. Do the strategy that works the best, doesn’t matter if the other side doesn’t like it. Congratulations, you’ll not do it, and loose plenty of games once you’re in the green or higher ranks.KOFF said:And when i play with killer i do not camp or tunnel because i hate it myself so i don't do that to others.
As a Killer, don’t complain about Looping. As a Survivor, don’t complain about camping or tunneling. Neither side is obligated to “play your way”.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6sxzxJBNka8
This video is satire, but it accurately sums it up. No “why me?!” Also, as M.Cote says in the video, it’s not supposed to be fair. It’s balanced, but as a Survivor it’s not fair. Just as intended. You’re team mates have free reign of the map to Rush the Gens or do whatever, which makes it balanced. If it was fair, then it wouldn’t be balanced. -
Nobody gives a crap who’s country the event is tied to. Number of people celebrating means jack all too. Who started the holiday, who gives a crap?Utna said:@SovererignKing said:
Didnt see a bunch of Americans storming the forums screaming about the Chinese New Year event a while back... but ok... I forgot other countries just love to bash America for the hell of it cause we’re “Selfish Mericans”.Regardless of why there is an event, and what holiday it’s centered around, why can’t we all just enjoy any event? Extra BP, some cosmetics, good times all around.
Any event sounds good to me, but why would "ANY event" should be american ... See my point ?
And please let's not pretend we can compare Thanksgiving to the Chinese new year celebration ... The later is more like Christmass in terms of number of people celebrating it, and in thousand of years of tradition (was a pagan holydays at first) ... though Christmass can take many different form in various countries (St Nichola's day, Reyes Magos, ..., etc.)
Anyway ... DBD's Christmass event exists, and Chinese's new year celebration too, and that's alright because none of those holidays are tied to only ONE country ... these are cultural cornerstones in either occidental or oriental cultures ... sorry for the shocker dude, but Thanksgiving is NOT, because this is about of a piece of the US history.
Also the problem isn't to celebrate Thanksgiving in DBD once in a while ... because yeah it could be fun sometimes, why not ? The problem is people assuming there should be a Thanksgiving event, while at the same time they never thought about celebrate Bastille's day or any other country related celebration.
The OP didn’t event mention nationality, some other jack wagon ran in here and started the “Why an AMERICAN holiday?!” crap starting a “Let bash America!” Fiesta. I couldn’t give two shits if it was some obscure holiday in tiny country of Africa that has a population of less than 1,000.
Who cares what holiday, why, who’s, how many people celebrate it? Why don’t you ask for an event to celebrate Bastille’s Day? I’d be behind it, even if I don’t celebrate or even know what the hell Bastille’s Day is. The OP and us Americans aren’t expecting or assuming there SHOULD BE a Thanksgiving event for the holiday, we just think it would be nice if they would. Even those who don’t celebrate could join in and net some sweet extra BP, cosmetics, whatever they want to make it into.
Americans aren’t waving some “Our holidays are more important than anyone else’s, so there should be an event to celebrate OUR holiday” banner. We’re just fishing for some extra BP, cosmetics, and crap that EVERYONE can enjoy as well.
Think of of it more along the lines of us Americans saying “Hey, we’re having a celebration for our country! You don’t have to celebrate the actual holiday, but please do enjoy yourself at the party with us!” -
Didnt see a bunch of Americans storming the forums screaming about the Chinese New Year event a while back... but ok... I forgot other countries just love to bash America for the hell of it cause we’re “Selfish Mericans”.
Regardless of why there is an event, and what holiday it’s centered around, why can’t we all just enjoy any event? Extra BP, some cosmetics, good times all around. -
Can a Meg join in the bushes? I wear my black jacket so I blend in better... Killer won’t see me I swear!Khalednazari said:Yes. Freddy needs rework. Leatherface needs rework.
And we, the Claudettes, need more bushes in the maps so that we can hide in our natural habitat.
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I really wish people would stop spreading the false narrative that Nurse “ignores” Pallets and Windows. She changes the way you have to use them. Fake the drop, double back, then drop it. Fake the window vault, you name it.Aftertaste said:I think that Nurse and Doctor needs nerf. Nurse has enormous lunge attack after blink and her fatigue time is really too fast, so she can use another blinks. In my opinion the whole character in all maps (not Lery's and Gideon's) is quite OP ability to ignore survivors' weapons as pallets and windows and teleporting to them is CRAZYY! The Doctor is also crazy, he has so many atributes: fake windows, yelling survivors, blocking vaulting (for a moment) , blocking dropping pallets (for a moment), husks of Doctor showing around survivors giving him their location, distributed all over the screen skillchecks and you can't do anything (heal, open the gate, open hatch, fix the gen etc.) and crazy addons like Iridescent King. These two are the most OP characters in DbD, it's really hard to win against them, especially on rank 1.
”Ignoring” is a lie. That’s just a bad way to cover up saying “I don’t want to have to learn to use Pallets or Windows any other way than what I’m used to against every other Killer in the game” It’s an excuse to ask for nerfs/rework cause you’re lazy and want the same old tricks to work every single time.
Who the hell cares if Doc can find you easy? Loop him. If you get smacked Looping cause of him shocking you, congratulations, you didn’t put yourself in the “safe zone”. Apart from some rare extremely short loops, just about every single Loop in the game has a “safe zone” that even if you get shocked, the Doc cant hit you. This is because of the slow down while charging his shock, be in the right spot, and it’ll wear off just in time. -
Killer swallows the bait, Survivors swallow the Killers bait.... on and on this pissing match goes.
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PS4 mate.powerbats said:@SovererignKing I believe is on Xbox so perhaps he knows.
You can also submit video clips using the support ticket system to BHVR , just follow the prompts and be as detailed as possible.
Though if if you have the clip, make a YouTube account and attach your Xbox Live account to your YouTube and upload it to YouTube. Then use the support function @powerbats provided for you to submit a ticket for review.
Cheers. (If I’m wrong, your looking for @popoles. He and I are the resident PS4 and Xbox players.) -
Yes, as Killer. It was fun being able to play around in Rank 1 without Ruin, and not have to worry about the game being over in 4 minutes or less. Yes as well for Survivor easy BP for doing nothing but tossing up an offering. Didn’t escape as much, but always still pip’ed and made out like a bandit with BP. Vials were easy as hell to get, I did 50/60 on Survivor.
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I would say this would be good. This would make doing not safe unhooks less desirable for tokens. It would make sure doing safe unhooks is more common and make farming less prevalent. Plus, it’s just BP, where’s the harm in that? I would love to see Survivors use less meta perks for the extra BP as Killer as well.
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The hell is an Akimbo flashlight? Ever since the flashlight nerf that got rid of insta-blinds I have no issue with flashlights. Got even better when they messed with the pick up animation time. Most Survivors can’t use flashlights worth a damn anymore.
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Damn right! Though gotta say, Nude Huntress when? I wanna see them big tiggle bitties bouncing while she chases me. Huntress players will love it too, as it will distract players staring at her boobs and cause them to screw up and take hits.Attackfrog said:But with a body like hers....who's even looking at her FACE anyway!?!?
Amirite!!!!
(This is a joke post btw, please no Feminazi’s or SJW’s go apeshit and rage.) -
Sorry for the derail, but how are you BBM! Haven’t seen you since my time on the Steam forums. Glad to have you here!BigBlackMori said:Yeah, at this point i just take salt in any game, especially DbD, as a sign of absolute victory even if i got 0 kills. They were mad enough to flip out and rage; for a time, i had control over their emotions and behavior. That is a win, and i'll take it.
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Except for us on console where getting into chat takes 15 seconds and 90% of matches have comms involved, SWF or not. Not speaking for PC, but us on console, this Killer would be completely useless.BACKSTABBER said:Santa isnt licensed... to who? to cocacola??
and the surv-morphing killer only conflicts with SWF, so one of of ten of my matches, np
”Whoever is the Meg, is that you walking towards me?” “Nope” “Ok, Killer than. Bye #########.” GG -
I want to strangle other Survivors when they Gen Rush and didn’t actually look at the layout of the Gens. Then they back us into a corner, all while I’m going “ok, there is a 3 cluster here, we need to do one of these so we don’t...” “pop! Pop!” Ok, well we can... “pop! Pop!”Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
If you're talking about the 3 gen strat, that's not the killer's fault, that blame falls on the survivors who only have genrush on the brain.raquelambersantiago said:@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
Vert3x said:Tunneling and camping have always been debated but they start deserving a little more attention now that survivors got nerfed in everything and that we would be given limits even in taking a #########.
It's time to give some importance to the harsh experiences that survivors have in this game as well as it's been given to those that the killer had, and one of these is to deal with tunnelers and campers; not one good killer main needs that, many of them disagree with that play style and it's in general really unfair and unfun.
Not once you could say that it's fun to get camped or tunneled, and you don't want the game to be unfun for neither one of the sides, don't you, Behav10ur?
Survivors used to be hard to be gotten on their first hook, so, to a limited extent, camping was even justifiable; but now being hooked is something that has to happen by force at least once during your game unless you're playing immersed or the killer is playing his first game on Dead by Daylight, and thus the killers shouldn't be granted the possibility to play unfair against you in the moments when you're most vulnerable and when you can't do anything at all.
If I was to play with a Survive With Friends team, not only I would have an easier chance with some teamplay to escape the tunneling/camping, but I'd also understand why the killer would do that, because he's having a hard time too in doing anything against us and he might be inexperienced and feel the necessity to play somewhat unfair.
But now we're coming down to the point why I'm writing this post: I can't conceive dying to this unfair play style when I'm playing solo, I'm not using any "crutch" perk or addon and I'm not teasing the killer in any way at all. This just can't happen and be all normal, especially if I'm on rank 1, killers that play like scumbags shouldn't reach any rank higher than 15, and that's it.
Do you want this not to be bannable? Don't make it bannable, it's fine, but prevent it to the fullest from happening, give the killer some huge debuffs if he tries to hit the just unhooked survivor as well as giving no damage to the survivor himself, freeze him if he stands around the hook for too long, don't let this ######### happen anymore, these are just ideas:
it's the end of 2018 and if there's one toxic and lame strategy (which you bhvr guys loved to call "legitimate" and "valid") that ruined the game since its beginning and that probably caused many players to quit it from the gold time that it had in 2016, that is the killer sitting around your hook once he's done catching you with you not having half a chance to escape from that.
It's just time to either provide any valid motivation (not as valid as you claim that camping is as a strategy, since it isn't) why you wouldn't want to touch this in any direct way, or to actually abruptly apply some drastic changes to the hook context.
Now, I did vent some anger in this post since I'm really tired of dealing with this and even though I've got 1200hrs in the game I'm disabled from doing anything against it, but I really am convinced about what I said here, those are just 100% no-fun strategies, you don't want to keep them in the game, not one decent person in the community is glad of it being a thing, some just take it but nobody would disagree with it being gotten rid of.
Oh boy, another one of these "I don't like how killers play so I think they should get banned" threads.
I don't think that that is necessarily the issue.. MOST matches up to level 10 are "Fun" and playable for everyone. Even the killer. However, as I and others are seeing more and more beyond level 10 killers just camp the surivvors and the gen spawn points are such lately that the killer doesn't even need to frigging move cause the gens are spawning in a circle radius around center point where he is at. So all huntress has to do is hook someone in center then just stand there. Camping is a problem at higher ranks BUT I think this is more an issue of balance than anything. Anytime devs nerf one side whether it be killer or survivor they fail to balance the other side.
"HOO HOO ME GENRUSHY, EXIT GATE SHINY! ME TWERK FOR KILLER"
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That’s... literally the point? The game isn’t supposed to be fair as a Survivor. It’s supposed to balanced for the whole team, but not fair toward the individual Survivor. If someone gets camped, the rest of the Survivor team has free reign of the map to do whatever, mostly Gen Rush. It’s balanced, but it’s not fair.TiptoeHigher said:I think that tunnel is "ok" survivors have Borrow, but camping is really unfair. Once you down it's over... You lose points, time and rank... Is too bad, If they want that camping stay in game, remove the punishments to survivors that are camped. Another ideia is remove the grab action while a person try remove other from the hook, let the person a chance to live
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6sxzxJBNka8
Litterally the developers said this “It’s not fair, it’s not supposed to be fair. It’s balanced, but it’s not fair.” If the game was “fair” toward the individual survivor, it would be imbalanced as hell.
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Careful with proven facts and logic around these parts... It tends to upset people.Wolf74 said:@purebalance said:
100% false otherwise they wouldn't have implemented that you lose rank points for camping.
It should be blood points that you lose though and actually tell them on screen since most tardo campers don't even look at the pip screen data.
Nope, YOU are false here. It was always an intended feature in the game. Check out the early dev streams for prove.
The only reason the Devs caved in and started giving penalties to killer for camping is because the crybaby survivor complains.
It's just survivor trying to get free unhooks, just like you.
The day killer lose bloodpoints for camping, killers will stop playing completely and leave you in your lobbies forever.
How about survivor lose bloodpoints for "camping gens"?
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@Vert3x
They already gave you invincibly frames right off the hook. They already put a penalty on Killer’s chaser emblem for legit camping. You have Borrowed Time. How much more ######### could you ask for? Seriously?
Here’s something : Where’s the punishment for Survivors camping and tunneling Gens? Why don’t they get punished for not screwing around, and just popping a squat and M1 on a Gen? Why don’t they get punished for going after the Gen that’s 50% or more complete, instead of going after a Gen that’s got zero progress? I literally just kicked that Gen, come on, walk away and give it some time to regress for free. Just like you want me to walk away and give you time to get off the hook and heal for free. -
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I don’t understand Killers like this myself. No pressure, just hunting that last clever little minx. If your don’t have the patience and time for that, then why are you sitting around playing video games in the first place? If you’ve got time to play games, then you’ve got time for anything that may happen.powerbats said:@Aviema said:
@michaelmyers87 said:
Whispersyou're that kid who always did that, "I'm not touching you!" annoying ######### aren't you? Using a perk slot to counter ######### behavior is not even close to an adequate solution.
So the last survivor should just run up to the killer and say take me I'm yours right? No survivor in their right mind is just going to give you an easy kill. You're not entitled to that free kill anymore than the survivor is entitled to making it out.
If you were playing a high mobility killer then of course that survivor is going to try and move around. It's funny you killers complain about being gen rushed but when it's the other way around it's I can't have my 4th victim for free.
Yes it's annoying to have to go find someone but that's why you run Whispers if you see stealthy players, Doctor, etc. You have to go earn that 4th kill even if it takes time.
Side Note after reading the other post by the OP : If you are wasting your time playing games to begin with, you don’t get to complain about “wasting time.” -
I swear man, you spend more time in the character creator than actually fighting lol. Btw, private math between us this weekend if you’re game.
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Old game bug. Not sure what triggers it, but your character acts like they are still on the hook after they have been hooked. Also you mimic being “picked up” any time the Killer picks someone up.
