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@Crypticghoul said:
I play him frequently without Ruin or Undying and I frequently 4k, he'll be just fine. I use Tinkerer/BBQ/Sloppy/Corrupt for those curious and so many of the perks are great on him.
You're playing against average survivors lol. Meanwhile I'm over here fighting seal team six. 4ks don't mean anything, you could be slugging everyone and 1 hook them. I go for 12 hooks which is way harder to do against good survivors.
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@Lazerboy88 said:
Been playing PH with no gen perks and pure chase perks, talking enduring, STBFL, brutal, spirit fury, im all ears, etc, I have found if you are good with POTD and end chases as quick as you can get them hooked/caged and get right back on someone else, you can make a snowball situation where you just wipe the whole team fast, however you are on a much smaller time limit due to gens flying so it makes games feel a lot more tense, basically if i slapped on maybe sloppy or corrupt id be fine so TLDR Pyramid is fine without undying ruin, i never really cared running it on him
Running all chase perks against survivors who are good in chase and know how to do gens is gg. I go for 12 hooks not slug and try to 1 hook everyone
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@[Deleted User] said:
Something is going very wrong in chases if you're relying on Ruin/Undying on PH. Still, it's not being nerfed to oblivion. I will concede the point that PH lacks synergy with Pop or Surge. I tend to use Infectious on PH to cage on the fly and build pressure that way.
I'm a p3 ph and I dominate in chases. I like when my perks work 100% of the time, not because I hit somebody with my m2 now surge doesn't activate.
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@Shirokinukatsukami said:
PH will be fine dude. The sky is not falling.
Wow thanks for the useful input, I've now changed my mind about this topic.
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@Chchchcheryl said:
Honestly, i don't think the undying nerf is as extreme as people are saying!
We'll find out in about 5 hours I guess, but either way, there will always be other builds!
In reality, PH doesn't NEED gen defence perks, its just nice, as it is on most killers!
Undying is now a 1 use perk only giving your ruin a mini shield. Why is that worth a perk slot?
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@WishIcouldmain said:
PH is good enough he can live without 2 gen perks.
He can live without 2 gen defense perks but not his best ones lol
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@Ivaldi said:
So.. Killers.. can you explain something to me? Yes we all know by now, you guys want DS nerfed.. But do you guys even realize that the sole reason the perk even exists to begin with is due to the way a lot of Killers play? If you didn't resort to tunneling, survivors would have never needed it to begin with.
As a killer main, I've never once had an issue with DS. Why? Because i'd rather lose knowing I refused to tunnel someone.
And we know, we know.. You had that 1 rare occurrence where you downed 4 survivors in 60 seconds but still got hit with DS and that survivor was able to loop you for 5 gens, save all of his teammates and escape.
You're the one that makes the choice to tunnel someone and eat their DS, when instead you could just slug them and create even more pressure. If they have UB? So be it.. that was still 40 seconds that they were out of the game.
The perk is abuse able. You can save someone off hook with BT and still have DS even though you can't tunnel someone going for unhooks.
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@Orionbash said:
"Ruin + Undying gets cleansed at the start of the match and then I'm left with 2 perks. Its soooo easily counterable."
Why do you care then? 🤔 Just apply pressure.
Because ruin is the best out of all gen defense perks. When it last a while it feels great, when it doesn't it feels garbage.
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@Shirokinukatsukami said:
Nurse is just a poorly-designed killer. She circumvents every mechanic everyone else has to deal with. In the right hand she is unstoppable no matter who the survivors are and what they do. (Yet the game is still survivor-sided according to people)
Yes, it takes a lot of practice, skill and dedication to get to that level but nurse is the main reason I don't accept the narrative that the game is survivor-sided.
In the hexy tournament couple months ago, the teams were dominating the best nurses out there. The nurse's couldn't even get more then 4 hooks because the survivors all were doing their part. Just because you suck against nurse doesn't mean she's bad for the game.
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Oh? You played well? 3man escape through hatch is your reward!
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@[Deleted User] said:
If you are a swf on comms you should win most games anyways; you also kinda lose the right to complain about anything from the killer's side given you're technically not playing fairly.
Exactly this well said.
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Read the comments I posted how to watch the watch earlier
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@xenofon13 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1861794#Comment_1861794
60/40 survivor favor, not survivor "main". Never used ruin/undying to carry me because i hate it as survivor.
Show me the 4man on comms, screenshots, and perks. Waiting. Proofs.
I posted their twitch go watch it and be proved wrong
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@MadLordJack said:
Not sure what point you are arguing here, you seem to have been playing one of the only killers that turns The Game into a killer-sided map. (I actually think, with current gen speeds, that PH might be the ONLY killer able to properly thrive on The Game (sorry Ghostie/Pig)). You've also not mentioned anything about the result, just that someone accused your perks of carrying you, the hypocrisy of which is not lost on me.
They knew they couldn't win so they all dc'ed
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@Withered8 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1861650#Comment_1861650
I havn't seen or experienced the game so I wouldn't know, maybe you were dominating them that much that you still would've won. However evne the fact that you talk about jugglign all game suggest that you are getting a tremendous amount of value off of ruin undying.
Also if you would have had the same result, why do you use ruin undying? I'm confident that I will have pretty similar results without the perk combo so i don't use it.
Neolikquidx on twitch, go to recent streams and skip to 5:33:10
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@xenofon13 said:
You will realize what ruin/undying did the moment it gets nerfed.
Hard carry without any effort.
Look at my recent discussions you will find a wraith match where I dominated without any gen defense. You didn't even say anything about 4 people on comms with all meta perks being op lol obviously survivor main.
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@Withered8 said:
Because ruin undying slows the game FAR more than you think, it's because you don't have to actively use it which leads to misconceptions that it doesn't have great effects on game. So no the outcome would not have been the same.
However, I agree in that if ur a 4man and ur loosing to a killer that's not a 1trick nurse or spirit or an insanely sweaty killer there is definitely room for you to improve in, and complaining about the game is very hypocritical.
Near enough the same, all the chases were way too short to get gens done and I was juggling too much they couldn't handle it
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BTW they all had DS unbreakable soul guard dead hard
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@[Deleted User] said:
Blood Amber doesn't show Wraith while he's cloaked.
Now why would I be trying to mindgame when I'm cloaked? Did you even read what I said? Do you have eyes?
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@Moxie said:
It will likely be a ghost nerf, just like mori's.
If they told everyone the nerfs were coming at X date, you would see a key every single game.
I'd rather not.
I see a key in my games more often than not so that wouldn't make a difference. Just wondering why its not here yet, a simple animation shouldn't take months to be put in the game
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I am willing to sacrifice undying for a ds unbreakable nerf this combo is so op
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@Kalinikta said:
You won the game, the killer lost. You escaped with 3 out of the 4 survivors... people love telling killers that they do not need to 4k to win and have a good game, so why doesn't that apply to survivors as well? You died, yet your team won and you are part of that team.
Or are you here now claiming that the killer with the 1k won the game?
I lost the battle but won the war. I'd rather it be the other way around because I did so much
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@Scoops_Ahoy_Steve said:
As a person who usually plays with 2 other friends and a random when I play survivor, I apologize for saying this but I'm not sacrificing myself and my friends for a random, sorry man
Play in a full swf please I'd rather not have players like you on my team
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@Sonzaishinai said:
You didn't really get punished. You most likely had full boldness points and chaser emblems. And probably atleast black pipped.
Escaping is not the win condition of the game unless you make it so. You single handelly made the killer only have 1k. That's a win in my book. Who cares about escaping.
Yea I guess you're right. But still its just annoying my team didn't come back for me they just left me behind like I was a bad teammate or something.
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@danielmaster87 said:
There's multiple instances of this game not rewarding excellent play. Like you said, killers in theory are always gonna get at least 1 unfortunate person because the person either dies on hook or get hook traded, unless body blocking and protection hits are involved. With killers the most common slap in the face is hooking 1 or 2 people and then getting DS'd by someone else.
I'm guessing you pipped though? Nobody does that well against Spirit without accumulating lots of points.
So I guess even though I was the MVP of the team I have to be the one sacrificed? That's messed up
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@Asssblasster625 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1853553#Comment_1853553
I am also a doc main and I just enjoy playing and get the most consistent kills and games with. Which is why I say he’s ss
Doctors not s tier, he gets destroyed by swfs. A couple months ago in the Hexy tournament, a guy played doctor and got stomped
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@Yamaoka said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1856066#Comment_1856066
How long did it take you to get used to that high sens? I'm still trying to get used to 90 at the moment but keep feeling like a human fidget-spinner.
For about a year now. 80+ Shadowborn makes it less often of me getting juked because I play on console
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@DawnMad said:
Against survivors like that I could play Machete Man and win, they literally left good loops and threw themselves at you each time. Blight is a hard killer even in PC and even if console isn't as hard for you it is still harder than PC.
This video has little to do with how good the survivors are. I was just showing blight is easy to play and I only play him a couple times a week because he slides too much as shown in the video.
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@Yamaoka said:
What sensitivity are you using ?
80
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The teammates you get are the same ones who complain killers are op. If everyone is doing gens while not in chase, how can you lose?
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Ahh the title is wrong, this was supposed to be me asking people to review my game sorry
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@AhoyWolf said:
I'm not really sure what are you trying to say with this video tbh.
In my previous post, someone asked for a video of how I played wraith with no gen defense
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Anything to help him out I'm ok with. He just feels so boring to play, his power is actually useless if the survivors are good and know not to waste time healing
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@Altarf said:
People in this thread are seriously underestimating PH's Punishment. While it's no secret that his cages/torment are a footnote and usually detrimental unless you enjoy tunneling off the hook or you've found the entire team in one place, but landing Punishment hits (outside of animation locks) is difficult and requires lots of skill and knowledge to pull off assuming the survivor has more than one brain cell. PH can play around almost any loop on the entire game with Punishment; prediction shots through walls, flicks while placing the knife in the ground, etc. These aren't just gimmicks, survivors rarely expect you to go for these over the usual animation locks and even if they do, you can predict where they're going to juke to much like Nurse. The survivor also has their own decision making to do here; predicting where PH would aim punishment, faking vaults and pallets, etc. The cooldown after letting go of Punishment is more impactful than most people realise in the infamous "lose-lose" situation where he's dragging his sword and you're heading towards a pallet/window; if you play right, you can almost always vault/drop the pallet safely once he cancels it, which I rarely see people do.
He requires a lot of practise, timing and knowledge of where survivors run, but an extremely skilled PH is arguably the 115% killer with the greatest chase potential. Not definitively the best 115% chaser, you could definitely make a case for Oni, a very good Doctor with an electrode maybe, Clown on a bad map with few pallets... but calling him weak or that he takes no skill is ludicrous. It's easy to dodge a poorly aimed and timed punishment, true, but an excellent PH will learn the bottleneck zones of loops and the proper angles to cover as much of the available dodge room as possible. I do that myself. Hitting through walls is high risk high reward, as it should be.
Tl;dr: PH is bad if you're not good at aiming his punishment, but good if you are. It's one of the more skilful and difficult to use powers out there, provided you go through walls and not just animation locks.
I agree fully pyramid is all about prediction. If you're not good at predicting, then he isn't for you
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@RamblinRango said:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/3N2QTMWDOKJU/20201216-183244.jpg
Spot the P3 Quentin, I'll wait
Is he the downed survivor?
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@GamerGirlFeng said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1848783#Comment_1848783
Scratch marks, crows, on top of perks like whispers, strider, and spies. Not to mention perks that help you see injured survivors and blood trails.. Do you even play killer?
Killer terror radius, spine chill, premonition,crows,keys allowing you to see where the killer is, object of obsession,swf on comms all give the you a advantage. See what I did there? Do you even play survivor? Maybe at a low skill level because fengs most of the time are trash
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@GamerGirlFeng said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1848499#Comment_1848499
A killer isn't entitled to a 4K when they fail. They're faster and have unlimited tracking advantages. If a single survivor manages to escape against that then they deserve their escape. Killers are against FOUR survivors, not a 'team, not three and a free kill. FOUR.
Wth is this argument "they're faster and have unlimited tracking advantages" Imagine legion moving at the same speed as a survivor and how do killers have tracking advantages? This is so dumb I want to leave the discussion lol
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@Marigoria said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1848520#Comment_1848520
Debatable. As swf, yes it is easier as survivor. As solo q, no. And that has nothing to do with what I just said.
It does, having a survivor escape me at 5 gens even though I was rolling the team should not happen. If that survivor played so well, why didn't he do a gen?
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@Marigoria said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1848499#Comment_1848499
The solo q survivor should not be denied a escape because team bad =/= you bad
Its a lot harder to play well as a killer then a survivor.
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@Mikeasaurus said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1848271#Comment_1848271
Exactly this. I've literally gone into a match once before and because it was a Freddy, the other 3 insta-DC'ed. The killer was decent though and let me do gens enough to get points and try safety pip but the fact stands solo shouldn't be punished because others are potatoes or leave you screwed over.
The killer shouldn't be denied the 4k because the team sucked or dc'ed
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@GamerGirlFeng said:
Why stop there? Why not make the auras visible 100% of the time? Better yet, change the game to remove the 4th survivor all together? They clearly don't count as a player and should just give the killer a free kill anyway.
But then... why should the third keep playing? The first two died, so they should just give themselves up. Guess they gotta get permanent removed, too.
A killer should not be denied a 4k because survivor bad = free escape
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@SnakeSound222 said:
It's there for when your teammates suck or just suicide on hook. That's not your fault at all if the matchmaking screwed up or the Survivors couldn't easily bully the Killer.
But if the whole team sucks why am I denied the 4k when I'm obliterating them
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@Kobeskillz said:
i started a thread about this but it got locked.
yesterday my 6 year old played as a killer and used the doctor. It was his first one playing as killer using my account and he killed everyone. Yes a 6 year old using the killer for the first time and the doctor and he killed all 4 survivors. The doctor is garbage and annoying. He ruins every match.
Nobody cares what you think or what lies you spew. Get lost
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@HexSmolPP said:
And I'll keep destroying it... And I highly doubt you're a Survivor main lmao. Why tf does everyone lie about their main when it comes to nerfs. "KiLlErS sHoUlD bE aBlE tO fLy.... SuRvIvOr MaIn" ookkkkkaaaayyy bud... Keep lying
Can't destroy my totems if I see you doing it lol and after I catch you, I'm camping and tunneling off hook
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@Zayn said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1847306#Comment_1847306
Be my guest, but putting up a video of a handpicked clip means anything since there are many factors to account for. I've played both Pyramid Head and Blight at Rank 1 against 4 man sweat squads and Pyramid Head was far easier to 4k with. He's easy to tunnel with and like I said, can literally catch anyone in animation lock, that with his free-zoning makes him a very simple killer with a low skill floor and a low skill ceiling.
Also, when did I say Blight is hard for me? He was at first but I have about 300 hours into him so far. He does have a high skill ceiling since his power literally depends on the map and RNG along with constantly having to analyze what you have access to within the chase. Pyramid Head is the same old, follow, pretend to use your ability, use it if the survivor tries to throw the pallet or vault the window, if not, keep following and get an M1.
Blight takes much, much more skill to play than Pyramid Head does. You can ask anyone, this isn't worth discussing further.
Well let's agree to disagree then ik I'm right so yea no point wasting my time with this
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As a survivor main i think this is a good idea
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@Claudette_Baguette said:
"SeLfCaRe TaKeS ToO LoNg"...
Some guys are so dumb. If another survivor heals you it takes 16 seconds and 2 (!!!) survivors can’t do anything else.
If you selfcare you are ALONE and it takes 32 seconds and another survivor can sit on a gen. So its the same amount of time overall.... if another survivor only takes one second to get to you and heal you it's actually more efficient to selfcare since you can do it immediately.
And you are more versatile if you selfcare because spreading out is really important and another survivor can finish a gen while you heal yourself.
So stop the self-care hate, it also allows you to make plays (get out of the exit gate if everyone else left or killer is near it, save someone safely, etc) and... well you don't die in one shot and thus stay longer in the game which is the most important part.
I'd love if every of my teammates ran selfcare when I play solo survivor, they most of the time get ambushed by tinkerer or are unaware and die in one hit all the time or crouch in a bush waiting for someone else to show up and heal them... That's wasting time.
Of course your pp had to be Claudette lol but keep using self are, I'll just keep smacking you with sloppy butcher and it'll be a 3v1 whole game.
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@Zayn said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1847255#Comment_1847255
You have no idea what you're talking about.
Blight is not easy to play at all LOL. Why do you think you never see him when you're playing survivor and when you do they get stomped? Because he is very hard to play with a very high skill ceiling, probably second or third hardest in the game. Pyramid Head is very easy to play with his free zoning and he can literally hit through objects which means anytime someone is in animation lock, it's a free hit. Don't be biased, not a good look.
How do You post videos on here? I don't know how people find him hard. If you find him hard to play, I guess I'm just more skilled with him then you? Also, hitting prediction shots through walls is a lot harder than you think
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@Zayn said:
I wish I stopped getting him in my games too to be honest. He's very unfun similar to Slinger. Players who main him don't know how to play a killer who takes skill and I'm a killer main who mains Blight before anyone says I'm an entitled survivor.
I main him and I play all killers except trapper and hag. Blight isn't even hard I play him on console p3 literally easier to play then pyramid lol
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That's solo q for you lol hell on earth