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@Visionmaker said:
@Outland said:
@Skorpanio said:
Sorry, but voice communication was NEVER intended to be part of DbD nor was SWF groups.
We should have the right, and ability to opt out without just lobby dodging.
I am sorry you need 3 people and voice to carry you man, hopefully you get better one day.
It's raining SALT halleluja it's raining SALT!
Get your stuff together I can't stand the toxic saltbags like you.
Bye Bye, have fun just complaining about everything instead of adapting!Its funny you just tell the Killer to adapt. Because its people like you who say "Bah if they got rid of SWF, we'd all stop playing" that sure as hell doesn't sound like adapting.
It's supposed to be ironic because the circle-jerky killer mains are the ones always using that excuse to justify everything that nerfs survivors.
But you must be new here if you haven't heard it before lmao.
Yep, I'm new here.
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@Runiver said:
@Vortexas said:
I'd rather not play against a 4 man cheat squad.Yes using Discord while playing this game is cheating, I don't give a [BAD WORD] if you don't think so.
Just add an option to let us killers opt out of SWF.
SWF ain't cheating, whatever people say. Devs stated it several times, just gotta deal with it.
Been over this a hundred times. BHVR can not stop voice comms. And for them to say comms is cheating but we can't stop it just makes them look bad. If they truly considered voice comms as not cheating then they would go ahead and whitelist Discord. But low and behold Discord IS NOT whitelisted.
Cheating or not, Killers have decided that it is enough of an advantage to make it part of the game they do not wish to take part in. And since SWF are the only ones using voice comms to get that advantage, Killers are going to dodge.
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@Skorpanio said:
Sorry, but voice communication was NEVER intended to be part of DbD nor was SWF groups.
We should have the right, and ability to opt out without just lobby dodging.
I am sorry you need 3 people and voice to carry you man, hopefully you get better one day.
It's raining SALT halleluja it's raining SALT!
Get your stuff together I can't stand the toxic saltbags like you.
Bye Bye, have fun just complaining about everything instead of adapting!Its funny you just tell the Killer to adapt. Because its people like you who say "Bah if they got rid of SWF, we'd all stop playing" that sure as hell doesn't sound like adapting.
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@Skorpanio said:
If every killer does this, SWF will become very unfun quickly.
Seriously why tf would we make the game 'unfun'
You're suppost to have fun playing the game you lil saltbag.If you don't enjoy the game I highly suggest you go ahead and press the big uninstall button.
SWF groups deserve to have just as much fun as the killer is.
Only your SWF fun comes at the cost of the Killers fun.
Basically screw you Killer even though you are playing by the rules, we want to cheat and wreck you, so suck it up and live with it.
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@Superyoshiegg said:
How is using discord while playing the game cheating?No really, I'd like to hear your thought process on that one.
Are you serious?? Just put a little thought on how voice comms COULD be cheating, I'm sure you can come up with one reason all by yourself.
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No on legacy for consoles, and no on any exclusives for consoles.
Legacy is a reward to people who played this game when bloodwebs were nuts and still managed to P3. It was dedication like theirs that helped this game continue to be a success. (I don't have any legacy).
And the Devs have already said that they do not want anymore exclusives, as it only breeds unhappiness from those players of the game that are excluded. It was the whole reason they came up with the Charity Case. There were so many streamer exclusives and the player base was bummed they couldn't get their favourite streamers gear.
BHVR's stand is to TRY and make everything between PC and both CONSOLES even, including release dates. I know the release dates got hosed this time around but it was their intention to have it all come out at the same time.
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I could have sworn that they said the next 3 would be original content. So the Clown is one, there should be two more original content dlcs before the possibility of a licensed dlc. But hey it would not be the first time they said one thing and did another, isn't that right clown that would never be added to the game.
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@only1biggs said:
@Outland said:
@only1biggs said:
@Outland said:
@only1biggs said:
@Outland said:
@only1biggs said:
You could have destroyed them if you played smarter. Did you see the flashlights in the lobby? Then you should have picked up facing walls or baited the pick up or slugged. You made the same mistake three times.If one had DS assume they all do and play accordingly. Down them near hooks and if you carry the non obsession DS users, count to 6 and hook or count, then do one dribble, then hook... depending on where the nearest hook is. The obsession can just be slugged and played around.
As a Billy you should be destroying teams like this if you play correctly and smart. I love going against these types as it's usually a guaranteed win.
That being said, Torment Creek is an awful map and one of the worst. But, you could have and should have killed them all.
Condescend much?
It's hard not to condescend to an idiot.
*edit - I'm actually not sure what parts you find condescending to be honest :')
Name calling, well that explains it, grow up junior. Maybe time to go out get a job, move out of the parents house and stop being "that guy".
Since I obviously used a word you didn't understand, here is the part where you were condescending.
"As a Billy you should be destroying teams like this if you play correctly and smart."
LOL I'm mid thirties with my own place. Nice try, boy. Who's condescending now? AND assuming a great many thing. Jesus, get a grip.
Now... did you think I was "name calling" toward you, or OP? Because I and MANY others explained to OP what he did incorrectly and what he could have done to not have a bad experience, but he refused the help, so yeah, he's an idiot. If you thought I was calling you an idiot, then you are wrong. I was calling OP an idiot and he was, as I just explained.
Again, if you see my line you quoted as condescending, I don't know what to tell you. It's true. Based on what he said, as a Billy, he should have destroyed them if he played smart and correctly.
I thought you were calling me an idiot.
Well, I wasn't, but I should be now.
Way to de-escalate an argument. I was willing to let it all go, that is why I responded to let you know that I thought you were attacking me and calling me an idiot after asking a simple question of "Condescend much?"
You maybe be 30 something but you conduct yourself like you are sixteen.
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@only1biggs said:
@Outland said:
@only1biggs said:
@Outland said:
@only1biggs said:
You could have destroyed them if you played smarter. Did you see the flashlights in the lobby? Then you should have picked up facing walls or baited the pick up or slugged. You made the same mistake three times.If one had DS assume they all do and play accordingly. Down them near hooks and if you carry the non obsession DS users, count to 6 and hook or count, then do one dribble, then hook... depending on where the nearest hook is. The obsession can just be slugged and played around.
As a Billy you should be destroying teams like this if you play correctly and smart. I love going against these types as it's usually a guaranteed win.
That being said, Torment Creek is an awful map and one of the worst. But, you could have and should have killed them all.
Condescend much?
It's hard not to condescend to an idiot.
*edit - I'm actually not sure what parts you find condescending to be honest :')
Name calling, well that explains it, grow up junior. Maybe time to go out get a job, move out of the parents house and stop being "that guy".
Since I obviously used a word you didn't understand, here is the part where you were condescending.
"As a Billy you should be destroying teams like this if you play correctly and smart."
LOL I'm mid thirties with my own place. Nice try, boy. Who's condescending now? AND assuming a great many thing. Jesus, get a grip.
Now... did you think I was "name calling" toward you, or OP? Because I and MANY others explained to OP what he did incorrectly and what he could have done to not have a bad experience, but he refused the help, so yeah, he's an idiot. If you thought I was calling you an idiot, then you are wrong. I was calling OP an idiot and he was, as I just explained.
Again, if you see my line you quoted as condescending, I don't know what to tell you. It's true. Based on what he said, as a Billy, he should have destroyed them if he played smart and correctly.
I thought you were calling me an idiot.
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@only1biggs said:
@Outland said:
@only1biggs said:
You could have destroyed them if you played smarter. Did you see the flashlights in the lobby? Then you should have picked up facing walls or baited the pick up or slugged. You made the same mistake three times.If one had DS assume they all do and play accordingly. Down them near hooks and if you carry the non obsession DS users, count to 6 and hook or count, then do one dribble, then hook... depending on where the nearest hook is. The obsession can just be slugged and played around.
As a Billy you should be destroying teams like this if you play correctly and smart. I love going against these types as it's usually a guaranteed win.
That being said, Torment Creek is an awful map and one of the worst. But, you could have and should have killed them all.
Condescend much?
It's hard not to condescend to an idiot.
*edit - I'm actually not sure what parts you find condescending to be honest :')
Name calling, well that explains it, grow up junior. Maybe time to go out get a job, move out of the parents house and stop being "that guy".
Since I obviously used a word you didn't understand, here is the part where you were condescending.
"As a Billy you should be destroying teams like this if you play correctly and smart."
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@Someissues said:
Bear in mind in some cases solo players joins the same time as SWF players, it's hard to tell but still got to point that outThis unfortunately is the case of a false positive, but the risk is acceptable to Killers. We are sorry solo people are getting caught in the dodging, but better to be safe then sorry. All the more reason to join Killers in requesting SWF be changed.
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Hill Billy ain't broken.
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Never read such a piece of crap before, how can you be f'in clueless on every aspect of this game, good riddance!
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@only1biggs said:
You could have destroyed them if you played smarter. Did you see the flashlights in the lobby? Then you should have picked up facing walls or baited the pick up or slugged. You made the same mistake three times.If one had DS assume they all do and play accordingly. Down them near hooks and if you carry the non obsession DS users, count to 6 and hook or count, then do one dribble, then hook... depending on where the nearest hook is. The obsession can just be slugged and played around.
As a Billy you should be destroying teams like this if you play correctly and smart. I love going against these types as it's usually a guaranteed win.
That being said, Torment Creek is an awful map and one of the worst. But, you could have and should have killed them all.
Condescend much?
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@Unit said:
Honestly I constantly see SWF groups talking trash about people who are playing the game how it was meant to be played. By yourself with randoms on the internet in a video game.SWF groups are not happy unless they make all other players but themselves feel like crap. But we are supposed to look the other way because if we rid ourselves of SWF , we will kill the game.
So we eat crap sandwich after crap sandwich so SWF can have fun.
Great setup right?
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@RailY said:
@Orion said:
Survivors are the ones who don't want Killers to pick their perks in accordance with the team they're facing and want Killers to be forced into unfavorable/unfun games. Fact is, if you try this, instead of dodging pre-lobby, you'll just have Killers DC when they realize the game is not going to be fun.You've got two ways to fix this:
1. Heavily nerf Survivor items (particularly flashlights).
2. Try to make items less of a pain in the ass for Killers so they won't mind their presence.Until either - or both - of those things happen, if you don't want to get dodged for bringing items or last-second switching, then just don't bring items you know Killers will dodge you for nor do a last-second switch.
What the hell are you talking about? Are you listening to your self?
Stop bloody White Knighting for a moment and listen to what you've said.
Entitlement at it's fullest.The point of this post is not giving the power to anyone to use power over others.
Do you think Survivors "enjoy' playing a game with Mori ? The single most broken offering in the game?
No one does. The thing is, they just put up with it, and if they "don't enjoy the game" they leave.The same Rules should apply to killers. If you want to DC after you get Flashed, feel free to do so.
Survivors don't get to know what sh*ty combination the killer is bring, they killer shouldn't know what survivors have prepared for him either.People seem to think that survivors are BRUTALLY overpowered and they DOMINATE the game.
That's almost laughably wrong. Although survivors have the edge right now the balance is TOO damn thin.
Remove 3-4 pallets from every map, make only purple Flashlight being able to somewhat Blind, and it's over. The game is dead. reviews hit 50% the next day, because the game is THAT broken at this point.You don't want survivors to pallet loop you, and you don't want them to heal or Flashlight you.
Then tell me. What exactely do you want me to do? Do you want us to have the ability to throw ourselves on hook just so it's more convenient to you ?Only the Devs have said repeatedly, that the Killer is allowed to see what they are bringing into the match in order for them to pick their perks accordingly. Its actually designed for the Killer to see, its not an over sight.
Sorry mate, be thankful the Killers are dodging at the lobby level where you get to keep your precious items, they could be asses and kill the process on load up.
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@Freudentrauma said:
@Outland said:
I do not buy that que times would get longer for anyone but the SWF. Basically the Killer would all go where there is no SWF. Once SWF realized that no Killers actually want to play their version of the game, They will either stop playing or solo que like the game was designed.Before SWF was implemented in the game people tried to get into the same lobby by searching at the same time and leaving lobbies, when it didn't happened. If killers were allowed to opt-out swf, people will return to this behaviour trying to play with their friends. And that would turn matchmaking into a nightmare. More broken lobbies and expand waiting times.
I'm willing to risk it, as all the work goes from me dodging as a Killer to waiting for people to fill my lobby. Less work for me.
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@Hillbilly420 said:
@Envees said:
@Hillbilly420 said:
@Envees said:
Remove coms by blacklisting them and watch how many people start to suck as surv and watch how many mediocre killers become better. Watch how the cheating swf crews quit. This is why they will never remove swf and they will never penalize the group that has the potential to buy the most DLC/cosmetics. Not removing swf/coms is purely a financial decision.There's no way to remove coms because SWF squads use Discord or Skype or whatever to talk to each other.
I am aware of this. They would resort to using their phones in a desperate attempt to maintain their advantage. Sad.
I also know that swf is going nowhere, barring some miracle. Dev's need to address this imbalance. New people come and go but the difference is that new people sometimes stay gone when they realize how much cheating is really going on and how the devs are doing next to nothing about it. Those are lost sales. Very few people buy games with all DLC attached. In this game the money is now from DLC and cosmetics. Base-game can be had for 7 pounds at times.
Remove swf from ranked. In a game where people cheat with voip there is no room in ranked for them. Cheaters need to have their own non-ranked games.
What i would love to see is the removal of swf as well as coms for one month. Then compare kill ratios to the previous two years.
They won't do that either because (1) Survivor mains will ree about it in a way we haven't seen before and (2) it would lead to longer ques and wait times for matches.
The only to fix it is to balance the game for SWF. The Killer should get something when an SWF squad joins to even the odds.
I do not buy that que times would get longer for anyone but the SWF. Basically the Killer would all go where there is no SWF. Once SWF realized that no Killers actually want to play their version of the game, They will either stop playing or solo que like the game was designed.
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@TrumpJunior said:
There you go:https://www.easy.ac/en-us/support/dbd/guides/whitelist/
RivaTuner or MSI Afterburner won’t get you banned.
Well crap thanks for that list, we've been wondering if it existed.
Looks like everyone needs to switch their discord to Curse Voice
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Woah for once there is drama on this forum and I didn't have one word said in it..... well until now
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@Bbbrian2013 said:
@Outland said:
@Someissues said:
But one good thing though, u get to slaughter noobs without having to derank. it's best when u slaughter everyone before a single gen is complete
But is it really fun kicking puppies? They had a crap time, and you most likely would have preferred a better match. The resets do nothing but punish the less skilled.
Most rank 1 killers really don't like facing survivors of equal skill. Playing killer against good survivors is an awful experience.
I main Freddy at Rank 1 usually and 99% of the time I feel like the puppy that's getting kicked.
I get it, there are a ton of supposed Rank 20 Killers, rocking 4 purple perks and using purple addons. Just ROFLSTOMPING everyone. But to have BHVR doing these rank resets so everyone is in ranks where they do not belong, it only servers to make the less skilled have a bad time for a while until the ranks right themselves again.
Until they decide to actually implement some kind of reward system for attaining rank, they should stop the senseless bashing of our lesser skilled players.
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You can try playing perkless, or addon free.
Or play the Killer differently, say only saw Billy, or something like that.
If you decide to try something different, I'd love to hear what you are doing to make the game fun for you again.
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@Someissues said:
But one good thing though, u get to slaughter noobs without having to derank. it's best when u slaughter everyone before a single gen is completeBut is it really fun kicking puppies? They had a crap time, and you most likely would have preferred a better match. The resets do nothing but punish the less skilled.
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@Sn0wJob said:
@Scgamecock86 said:
I understand what your saying, but never rage quit, it's just a fun game. I like to play both sides but mainly killer and I never quit no matter what's going on. I don't get a 4 KILL every match and the survivors I play against don't always get a 4 survivor escape. It's just fun, I could have the most toxic survivors ever and I will just stick with it and wait for 1 to make a mistake, if they don't so what on to the next matchI mean I never said that I disconnect, but I read a reddit thread earlier about a guy who thought he should keep his BNP because the killer disconnected after two of them were used.
I just feel a tinge of schadenfreude when I hear about it.In your scenario the BNP's were brought into the match to cause the Killer to lose. After they were used the Killer conceded defeat and left and lost. The BNP users got exactly what they wanted by bringing them in. And the Killer lost all his points and some pips to boot. Why in the hell does that guy think he deserves to have his BNP back?
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@Scgamecock86 said:
Everyone's going to be reluctant to post on here before long cause most post just get put down about proper writing and how dumb they are. This is supposed to be a place for you to share your thoughts and comments as one community, but it seems to be everyone getting on here just to say na na boo boo I'm smarter than you. Who gives a [BAD WORD] it's a [BAD WORD] social forumI generally let spelling mistakes and grammar slide. But what drives me nuts are walls of text. Please people break them up a little bit.
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@AsePlayer said:
@Outland said:
@JinxReaper said:
Since its a Ptb I feel players should be able to play any killer and have infinite bloodpoints to get everything they want so you know they, they cant test the things they want to. I think it would be a cool ideaI agree with you, they should basically make regular mode like KYF. You should have everything unlocked to try out.
I do however believe they should lock items. No items unless the dev have made specific changes to them, and they need testing.
Also they should limit offerings that are designed to shorten the game, such as mori and things like BNP. Again unless they have made specific changes to them and they need testing.
The problem with the PTB is alot of the games are not taken seriously, because nothing has a cost. Its all the best addons and offerings because you have unlimited amounts of each.
Its hard to gather proper data if everyone is just memeing around.
Wouldn't it be useful to see how items would affect any of the game play they adjusted? There's no reason to isolate them it's a literal core part of the game.
At first initial changes should always be tested as if the addons and such do not exist, there is no point in making something that is only balanced if people are using addons, because those said addons are not guaranteed to always be present.
So yeah more testing with addons maybe be needed , once they have perfected the default version of it.
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@Kaelum said:
@Outland think about it. 2 or more people playing SWF who are also in the same room, talking on the phone, or using any other method of communication. There is no possible way that BHVR could control any of that. If they were stupid enough to try putting any of that in their EULA, those sections would be invalidated by every court on this planet. BHVR has said over and over that comms are an unfair advantage, but their use is not bannable, as it is impossible (illegal in most cases) to control communications between players.Yeah man,I agree with what you said BHVR doesnt call it cheating because they know they can do NOTHING about it, and to call it cheating for them makes them look bad. But by their definition of things that could be permabanned, this exact thing fits the description.
BHVR could clear this up entirely by adding Discord to some published whitelist, so people would be forced to accept that YES BHVR has whitelisted Discord.... but that just isnt the case.
Its one of those, if it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then goddammit IT IS A DUCK.
So UNFAIR advantage over another player fits the definition of cheating, so logically until someone states that Discord is whitelisted, IT IS CHEATING, and thats not only in my eyes, but most every Killer out there.
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Yeah its the monthly, bash the Lowbie's time. I never have understood the point of these resets.
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Internal Memo from Entity to The Doc..
It has become aware that you are not following protocol in your ordeals.
The manual says to 1) Stop them from powering up generators and 2) Hang them on a hook.
From our last performance evaluation, we've seen that, you yes stop them from powering generators. But you are then hanging them on said generators. This is not the way we do thing at Entity Inc.
Please pay more attention to your training and adhere to company standards.
A copy of this correspondence has been added to your file.
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@Orion said:
Is my name acceptable, my liege?I don't know, you were kinda using the letter "o" all willy nilly, I mean a capital and a lower case o, man share the wealth, stop hogging the o's
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I can see it both ways, I love stealth and when I play if I don't even see the Killer I consider it a good round. (As if IRL, not seeing the Killer would be the perfect round). But the game is moving towards making us get ever closer to danger to get points. I would love it if a super stealthy round gained as much points as those guys that can run circles and juke like crazy.
But if that was the case, then it would be conceivable that you could have entire rounds where all four are super stealthy and the Killer finds no one, making it the most boring of rounds. Which would lead to Killers asking for a buff or a nerf because its boring to look around a map for 10-20 mins and then watch the survivors at the exit gates.
Its a tough job balancing this game for sure.
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@ThePloopz said:
This wouldn’t change anything though because of discord and other 3rd party appsI agree it would be good, but Like ThePloopz says SWF would still ignore the ingame chat and use Discord.
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@thesuicidefox said:
@Outland said:
They are not cheating as all players can buy the exact same products and therefore have the same advantage.The killer however cannot ever gain the same advantage that you have by using your comms. So there again you are cheating.
Just like all players can set up a Discord and/or put the info in their steam profile. Or are you going to to some mental gymnastics to tell me no now LOL.
The Killer cannot setup discord to give them the same advantage that the survivors have. No gymnastics needed my friend just common sense.
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@Mc_Harty said:
@Outland said:
How can you make the statement that you did, yet not classify it as cheating? (HUGE ADVANTAGE that wasn't intended in the game) Dude, its ok to think its cheating and still do it.
If the devs allow voice coms...then its not cheating is it? Regardless of the reason. Otherwise everyone would have been disqualified from the official tournament for using coms.
Everybody knows that Voice chat provides an advantage. Everyone knows that it breaks the balance of the game. Nobody is that stupid to claim otherwise.
You cannot call it cheating because you think its unfair. Only the devs can. And last I check they are balancing the game towards survivors with voice chat.
They are balancing the game around voice chat????? What magic 8 ball have you got? I've heard no such thing.
Again you and I have been over this, if the comms are on the whitelist they are not cheating and I'll admit it and even inform others when the question is raised. But until I see a whitelist with comms on it, then that advantage is unfair over another player, and is a candidate for permanent banning. As per BVHR's own documentation.
And if its a candidate for permanent banning it sure sounds like cheating to me.
Anyways you have said your bit and I have said mine. You and I will just be on the opposite side of this until BHVR gives us that whitelist with comms on it.
Cheers man, good luck in the fog.
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@JinxReaper said:
Since its a Ptb I feel players should be able to play any killer and have infinite bloodpoints to get everything they want so you know they, they cant test the things they want to. I think it would be a cool ideaI agree with you, they should basically make regular mode like KYF. You should have everything unlocked to try out.
I do however believe they should lock items. No items unless the dev have made specific changes to them, and they need testing.
Also they should limit offerings that are designed to shorten the game, such as mori and things like BNP. Again unless they have made specific changes to them and they need testing.
The problem with the PTB is alot of the games are not taken seriously, because nothing has a cost. Its all the best addons and offerings because you have unlimited amounts of each.
Its hard to gather proper data if everyone is just memeing around.
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@ZombieGenesis said:
SWF absolutely brings benefits that need to be offset but I'm not a fan of punishing someone as a way to balance the game. I'd rather the killer get a buff of some sort.The only problem with giving the Killer a buff to counter SWF, is the solo players out there get screwed. It has to be the SWF that get the debuff. Its their choice for grouping up together, so the debuff should be theirs to endure.
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@commtech said:
Please give us dedicated servers! With all of the money they will be making now with the auric cells, you would think that they will get them for DBD. If not then it’s just being greedy and cheap.You mean once they pay down that 12 million dollar debt from buying DbD off of Starbreeze you mean.
Nothing about being greedy and everything about paying the damn bills each month.
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They are not cheating as all players can buy the exact same products and therefore have the same advantage.
The killer however cannot ever gain the same advantage that you have by using your comms. So there again you are cheating.
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@MrsMaliciousX said:
Why is there always someone crying about something? I really don't get it at all lol.
So people like to play with their friends..Whats the big deal? All you hear is cry cry cry ######### ######### #########...people just need to stop take a breath and let the devs do what they do..Yet another person telling Killers to just suck it up and play, regardless of the stacked deck.
People playing with their friends really isn't a big deal at all, its the COMMS they use that takes it from friends sharing a match , to a coordinated attack on the Killer, and all his secrets and actions are shared to remove aspect of his enjoyment of the game.
The problem is .. no bitching = no fix for whats causing the bitching. Concerns about what makes the game hell for a large portion of the population should be discussed.
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@thesuicidefox said:
@Lowbei said:
”the reason its not blacklisted is because its undetectable, which is the same reason that MLGA isnt blacklisted either.”blacklisting something they cant detect would just make them look stupid. thus, they were forced to state that its not cheating, despite the fact that its a non-whitelisted 3rd party app that gives an advantage, which is literally the definition of cheating.
by your logic, hacks that are not detectable are “not cheating”
The difference is that, if you can prove someone was hacking they will get banned, but if you can prove someone was on discord they don't get banned.
I don't care what you say, voice comms is not cheating. It gives you an advantage yes, but that's as far as it goes.
We'll just agree to disagree, I see any advantage over another player as cheating, and you see it as the other guy just needing to get gud and counter the advantage you are somehow getting without cheating
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@Master said:
@Lowbei said:
Kaelum said:@Lowbei said:
lol no and the ignorance you just spouted was hilarious.
they literally dont have the technology nor the legal ability to do what youve stated.
Careful @Lowbei, your ignorance is showing. I am a software engineer and from any application I write, I can detect every other running application on the system. Your knowledge of “technology” appears to be extremely limited, and laughable. “legal ability”? Really? ROFL!
you are either lying or hilariously ignorant.
by your logic, no hacks would ever exist since they can just be detected. i guess blizzard and treyarch and bhvr etc are just lazy and havent heard about hacks /sarcasm
a company does not have the legal ability to monitor all apps on your pc. period. this isnt rocket science. they can only legally detect software that affects their game. this is why mlga was unwhitelisted, but not blacklisted, because it cannot be detected.
you lose, try again.
Pls stop talking about sth you dont understand.
Also there only is a list of whitelisted programms, if that programm is not on the whitelist, then it is a bannable offense using it to gain an advantage over other players. That literally stands in the TOS, look it up if you dont believe meIt all boils down to this! ^^^
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@Kaelum said:
@Lowbei said:
again”the reason its not blacklisted is because its undetectable, which is the same reason that MLGA isnt blacklisted either.”
That is a false statement, and has nothing at all to do with their reasoning. If you want more information, watch the dev stream yourself, and don’t ask me to point you to which one it is, it’s one of them since October 2017.
Detecting any application that is currently running, is an extremely simple task that requires very little effort. If BHVR wanted to eliminate the use of comms on PC, they could very easily do so. The fact remains that they believe that the use of comms is ok, even if it is unfair.
That is incorrect as well, yes telling what is running on a computer is easy to do, it doesn't mean that BHVR HAS THE RIGHT to invade your privacy that way. Since the comms do nothing directly to the game files they are in fact undetectable to BHVR.
They DO NOT THINK COMMS are ok, they are forced to accept that they can do crap all about them. And therefore haven't blacklisted them, but neither have they whilelisted them. Which means they ARE NOT accepted as apps that ARE COOL with DbD.
And if ever some magical means of detecting comms and mlga should surface and the anticheat method can identify who is using them, they would have the right to ban people for using them.
Whether or not that's a smart business move is up to them, but according to their list of permanent bannable offenses, they would the the right to if they so chose.
In regards to their statements in your recommended dev stream, they are forced to say they consider comms not cheating... why you might ask? Because they CANNOT stop them, and to admit there is cheating going on in the game that they can do nothing about is just bad. It leaves an air in incompetence around the devs.
But I can bet you this, if there was a magical statement they could add to their code, to shut off in game communications other then prior and post game chat, they would implement it in a second.
The communication ruins the experience for many dbd players, survivor and killer included.
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@Mc_Harty said:
Killers don't like SWF because they have a huge advantage of information compared to solos.Some even go as far to classify it as cheating. I wouldn't go that far however I'm not denying that SWF does break the balance in this game somewhat.
How can you make the statement that you did, yet not classify it as cheating? (HUGE ADVANTAGE that wasn't intended in the game) Dude, its ok to think its cheating and still do it.
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It seems that because they will never remove SWF, they want it removed from ranked play. Basically put SWF into a room by itself where NO Killer will roam. It would be the same as giving the Killer the option to opt out of SWF. Which would be akin to removing SWF altogether.
I think, they think if they word "Please remove SWF" differently, it will have an effect.
So basically I would guess there is no SWF FREE anything planned.
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I believe they make it so you can only get one perk for a reason. You have to make a choice as to what is worth it. You may notice that the entity ALWAYS takes the other perk immediately after you choose the other one.
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After seeing all the garbage skins that get added to Minecraft, Hilter, naked, other offensive symbols, I think we are better off if the devs handle their own skins.
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I agree it was one of the more tame rage fests. But honestly why do people have to just put up with it and grow a thicker skin? Why are those piece of garbage human beings allowed to spew forth any crap they want?
I know that the end Game Chat has a close button, but in all honesty would any of us miss it if it were removed? Its rarely used for civilized conversations. That's actually the best part about playing on console, no end game salt fest.
Here comes the "you can just close it", somewhere, someone shot me a reply in one of these threads about editing a ini to force it closed each game. I have to find it and implement it.
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Summer time in the middle of a work week during work hours, choose your reason.
People at work
People actually going outside
Or people sleeping in from playing all night
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I watched a couple big name streamers yesterday and both were forced to play FYK with subs to be able to test out the new changes. It seems no one is playing it, maybe that will change?
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@snozer said:
@Mrmaplesyrup said:
I think one D-strike is perfectly fine but, when you deal with more then 2 the game becomes an absolute nightmare for any killer.even one is a pain because that guy is going to be the single biggest pest in the game. but yeah, if it was changed so only one survivor could use it and it became a dead perk for the others that would be ok.
An interesting take on this could be that everyone who has the perk in their loadout would have the chance to use it, BUT ONLY ONE OF THEM, the first one to use it scraps it for the entire team.
Reading those post game conversations would be super fun.