OrionsFury4789

Master said:
@OrionsFury4789 said:
Master said:

@OrionsFury4789 said:

malloymk said:
Trying to squeeze a solo survivor game during halftime of the super bowl. Literally dodged 6 straight games. Pathetic.
Its ok just do like all these killers arguing how they dont have to play with certain things do and derank yourself, the ques are instant and you never get dodged people can shame it all they want but I didn't pay for lobby master 3000 I paid for dead by daylight and as long as I don't DC enough for a ban then who cares whether they have fun, do you think they care about ruining your game? Do you think they care if you have fun getting dodged for sometimes 2 hours at a time only to get some laggy match where some poor guy gets face camped right from the start or the killer dc ? Putting me right back in lobby master 3000..... No I'm fine and I don't care a bit if they're miserable because that's the way they are to me and as some of you have said before when survivors complain " it's not your opponents job to make sure you have fun"

The killer players purchased a horror game where the killer was advertised as powerful monster, just read through the steam description and have a laugh,

They didnt get that either, so deal with your lobby master 3000

Nope I do just fine at rank one killer the crying wont end until you have a survivor start in struggle and then it might not even and I won't deal with lobby master 3000 I'll derank like you've admitted to doing plenty of times get instant lobbies and have fun , its not anyone on this forums fault for the way the game is maybe except the devs of course but hey if you can't beat them join them I'm deranking and IDGAF who likes it because I've heard the killers say plenty of times it's not their job to make sure we have fun so guess what? I'll be as toxic as I want and there's nothing you can do about it as long as I don't break the official rules
See you in the fog
By lobbydodging you dont break the official rules either, just fyi

Yep and I agree with you sir , even though I dont like it I cant stop it people are gonna play how they want regardless and I'm not gonna hate on however you want to play that's fine it's your choice but I'm making mine as well and I refuse to let this community upset me at all about this game anymore I'm gonna have fun and not care what people on here think

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MhhBurgers said:

Dodging SWFs is not being part of the problem, refusing to adjust the game to SWFs is the problem.

Maybe so but that's not any survivors fault at all , if the devs tested their games at high ranks we wouldn't have this problem I get why people don't like swf because of the communication making up different perks and I get that somewhat, but you don't always run up on those death squads I rarely see them at rank 1 killer where I can be like wow these guys got me and I just couldn't do anything, I think if we Nerf the strongest killers plus add ons THEN re balance survivors since most killers will be pretty close to equal in effectiveness and you will have a much better product on a even playing field instead of survivors balanced around the absolute most ridiculous combination possible by the killer , buff open handed to let anyone view eachothers aura perks within a 8 meter range to make communication not so powerful, you can see something better instead of having someone try to tell you and solo would get the love it needed hopefully making the DC rate for solo drop , but that's just my opinion no hate here just shooting it straight the way I view it

in Dodged Comment by OrionsFury4789 February 4, 2019

The only reason I personally don't like shadowborn is because it makes getting blinded easier with the widened view , the only time I like to run that is on a huntress but thats just me and for others it may work out alot better I just would rather run something more accommodated to my style of play depending on the killer

in Make Shadowborn the default killer FOV? Comment by OrionsFury4789 February 4, 2019

Orion said:

@OrionsFury4789 said:
Nope I do just fine at rank one killer the crying wont end until you have a survivor start in struggle and then it might not even and I won't deal with lobby master 3000 I'll derank like you've admitted to doing plenty of times get instant lobbies and have fun , its not anyone on this forums fault for the way the game is maybe except the devs of course but hey if you can't beat them join them I'm deranking and IDGAF who likes it because I've heard the killers say plenty of times it's not their job to make sure we have fun so guess what? I'll be as toxic as I want and there's nothing you can do about it as long as I don't break the official rules
See you in the fog

That's right, go be part of the problem.

Yes I will , you aren't trying to fix it by telling people not to dodge or derank to fix these lobby issues either and I refuse to waste my time waiting anymore I'll do what all of you say you do and have instant lobbies, you and I have both seen it all over these forums, nobody cares to try and fix it so I don't care anymore 2 hours for one game made me say enough is enough who cares I'll just be part of the problem so I can enjoy a game I bought without getting dodged for ridiculous reasons like me having a toolbox or being a Claudette

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Master said:

@OrionsFury4789 said:
malloymk said:

Trying to squeeze a solo survivor game during halftime of the super bowl. Literally dodged 6 straight games. Pathetic.

Its ok just do like all these killers arguing how they dont have to play with certain things do and derank yourself, the ques are instant and you never get dodged people can shame it all they want but I didn't pay for lobby master 3000 I paid for dead by daylight and as long as I don't DC enough for a ban then who cares whether they have fun, do you think they care about ruining your game? Do you think they care if you have fun getting dodged for sometimes 2 hours at a time only to get some laggy match where some poor guy gets face camped right from the start or the killer dc ? Putting me right back in lobby master 3000..... No I'm fine and I don't care a bit if they're miserable because that's the way they are to me and as some of you have said before when survivors complain " it's not your opponents job to make sure you have fun"

The killer players purchased a horror game where the killer was advertised as powerful monster, just read through the steam description and have a laugh,
They didnt get that either, so deal with your lobby master 3000

Nope I do just fine at rank one killer the crying wont end until you have a survivor start in struggle and then it might not even and I won't deal with lobby master 3000 I'll derank like you've admitted to doing plenty of times get instant lobbies and have fun , its not anyone on this forums fault for the way the game is maybe except the devs of course but hey if you can't beat them join them I'm deranking and IDGAF who likes it because I've heard the killers say plenty of times it's not their job to make sure we have fun so guess what? I'll be as toxic as I want and there's nothing you can do about it as long as I don't break the official rules
See you in the fog

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I would honestly like to see the trapper start out with more traps and have them more evenly distributed when they spawn in , sometimes there arent any on certain parts of maps and unless you have a trapper bag on you can't carry very many traps and you have to waste time getting one just to use his power, either give him a built in trapper bag or the ability to hold all his traps from the beginning with the number telling how many you have kinda like the hag with Phantasm traps, he shouldn't have to drop everything and go to the other side of the map just to collect his "power" that's what makes the trapper mid tier instead of top tier in my opinion as a trapper main all the way up until the spirit came out

in A buff to make Trapper a top tier killer. Comment by OrionsFury4789 February 4, 2019

Sinner said:

Killers are in the best spot they'll ever be right now. You just need to git gud.
Bare in mind there were times when there were infinites, 30 pallets, double pallets, vacuum, super fast vault, no gen damage, no ruin, no exhaustion, brand new parts, super fast self care, no mangled, no hooks(sabo) and a lot of other stuff they nerfed.

Yet the game was still very popular and good killers could 4k at rank 1.

So you coming now and complain is just laughable. There won't be more survivor nerfs from this point on. The disconnect rate among survivors is off the roof. More nerfs and game is dead. So git gud.

I'm glad it's not just me lol a year and a half ago I would've agreed with them , they think looping is bad now? What about the old pallet system with vacuums and pallets within a few feet of eachother? Recharging exhaustion perks during chase? Infinites on every map at some point? man I used to get wrecked back then when those good groups came along, but now it's more balanced than ever before i can easily find where I went wrong whenever I have a bad game and see where I either mind gamed myself or just made a poor decision

in I just can't anymore Comment by OrionsFury4789 February 4, 2019

malloymk said:

Trying to squeeze a solo survivor game during halftime of the super bowl. Literally dodged 6 straight games. Pathetic.

Its ok just do like all these killers arguing how they dont have to play with certain things do and derank yourself, the ques are instant and you never get dodged people can shame it all they want but I didn't pay for lobby master 3000 I paid for dead by daylight and as long as I don't DC enough for a ban then who cares whether they have fun, do you think they care about ruining your game? Do you think they care if you have fun getting dodged for sometimes 2 hours at a time only to get some laggy match where some poor guy gets face camped right from the start or the killer dc ? Putting me right back in lobby master 3000..... No I'm fine and I don't care a bit if they're miserable because that's the way they are to me and as some of you have said before when survivors complain " it's not your opponents job to make sure you have fun"

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Atelicz said:

I have actually had enough.

Every time I join a lobby with my friends. we join a lobby and I get "disconnected from the host". This always happens when its a good ping lobby. but when its a bad ping lobby I connect. how does this make any sense? the answer is it doesn't, I'm getting sick and tired of it. I have tried re-installing the game, verifying the game files and nothing. doesn't work. It only happens to me and no one else. in my friend group. why is this a thing? because it shouldn't be, sometimes it says somethings wrong with my NAT connection? Thats incorrect sooo maybe fix this. Is there any fix for this? If so I would love to know because once again, I'm fed up.

You on console?

in CANT JOIN ANY LOBBY WITH MY FRIENDS. IT ALWAYS SAYS I GET DISCONNECTED FROM HOST Comment by OrionsFury4789 February 3, 2019

Might_Oakk said:

Bored in a survivor que.

I am 4.14

6.19 and I refuse to play lobby simulator anymore , I deranked myself and I'm getting instant lobbies , nobody is playing at high rank is why the que times are this way alot of killers deranked before the event and alot talk about deranking on this forum, I'm gonna do opposite and leave my killer at 1 for instant lobbies but on survivor I have nothing left to prove and don't care if I'm noob stomping or not , nobody has a problem with the killers who do it or fog streamers, can't beat them and now I'm joining because I'm gonna play something that actually works in a reasonable amount of time without getting endlessly dodged and playing 3 matches in 3 hours time

in What is your devotion rank? Comment by OrionsFury4789 February 3, 2019

Tsulan said:

If survivors spend even half as much time learning how to play against her, as nurse players do spend learning how to play her.
Then they wouldn't even consider her op.

Instead they disconnect because they don't want a challenge.

Those very same survivors usually complain that killers lobby dodge and don't want a challenge against a fully decked 4 man swf.

Ironic

You would complain about lobby dodge if you were on console too but I don't think I would wish it upon anyone with a PC to test it out on console I've seen the difference it's absolutely trash in comparison, I've been looking into getting a gaming PC but I honestly don't even know what to look for on capabilities for running smoothly

in Why is the Nurse still this Overpowered? Comment by OrionsFury4789 February 2, 2019

Peasant said:

There are just 3 things you need to know when facing nurse: Lightburn, Timing, and Head tilts.

Lightburn: That's right, flashlights can stun the Nurse, all you have to do is just shoot her in the torso with light as she's charging a blink and then she's stunned. With how much survivors complain about excess flashlights I think you can risk a few to practice this.

Timing and Head tilts. The nurse cannot cancel blinks once they're charged. If a nurse charges a blink for 4+ seconds you can charge at then as they blink and usually they'll go straight past you. You can use this to waste time or juke her entirely. The key thing is the nurse's head though. While she cannot cancel a blink on most maps nurses will look straight down to turn a long distance blink into a 1/3 meter blink. If you run towards a nurse and she bows, turn around!

TL:DR
Use flashlights to stun her while she charges blink. Charge at her after 4+ sec of charge. If she looks straight down when you charge run away.

I wish I had that excess flashlight problem

in Why is the Nurse still this Overpowered? Comment by OrionsFury4789 February 2, 2019

ToxicFengM1n said:

Okay, this appears once in one level in a bloodweb, if you are a level 50, it takes a while to level up, could we see an increase in red envelope spawns in the bloodweb this event?

It's because people complained in the past about having too many offerings left over after the event and feeling the extra BP they earned got wasted on something that was no longer usable after the event was over

in buff red envelope Comment by OrionsFury4789 February 2, 2019

Nickenzie said:

Master said:

Using voice comms is not bannable, otherwise SWF would be in some serious trouble.

This is the most troll answer I have ever seen from you @Master. Regardless if the method is voice communication, via private message, and etc. it's bannable to work with the killer, period.

Yea be careful not to say it too loud because I was told I was full of ######### in another post for saying that someone has done to me what op had happen to them, apparently if it goes against anyone's views on here it cant be true and never happened

in Is telling survivor locations to killer bannable? Comment by OrionsFury4789 February 2, 2019

PiiFree said:

I don't really get it.

How did the slugged guy team up with the Killer? How is that even possible in first place?

Because when you're down you see your team and some people get salty and party chat with the killer to give you away when you don't die to pick them up off the ground

in The 2v1 situation hypocrisy is really getting on my nerves Comment by OrionsFury4789 January 31, 2019

NoShinyPony said:

So, that's like 6 or 7 lobbies in 12 minutes. It's still acceptable.

Not really considering after that it usually breaks the matchmaking system and you sit there for about an hour or two for one lobby after being dodged multiple times , ping is fine to dodge but items and cosmetics? At that point someone really should play a different game than make everyone wait until they think they've pulled noobs

in What it is like for a poor PS4 survivor... Comment by OrionsFury4789 January 31, 2019

Dance with me already does that

in Bamboozle (survivor version) TOPIC CLOSED! Comment by OrionsFury4789 January 29, 2019

TRGraybles said:

@OrionsFury4789 said:
The real balance problem is that survivors are balanced around the strongest possible killer+ build , so basically survivors are balanced around billy, 5 blink nurse, infinite ew 3, insta down hatchets + ebony mori etc... They're built to have a chance against even the strongest but now let's take a normal killer without an insane build who may not play enough to have a chance against a skilled team anyway and here's where the complaints come in, some people can easily kill all four like myself because we played since the release and all the buffs since have been nice. My theory on a way to even the playing field is actually a buff to open handed , I think that anyone within a eight meter range should be able to view eachothers aura reading perks with open handed that way bond/empathy etc.. can be viewed and you don't have to tell anyone anything if they can see it , thus will be a nice buff to the solo survivor not on comms , people complain about voice comms but I can visualize better than be told so if we take away most of the reason to voice com and Nerf the strongest killers to balance the survivors around then the game will be way more even to some

But if that is the case and players are still put into game lobbies graded by rank should rank be determined per character (and that characters loadout) and not account wide?

I mean a super geared and perked-up Dwight should be put against a guy barely out of rank 20-16. Just like a geared killer should never be put against 4 noobie Survivors that barely got 5 games under their belt!

Until they find a way to prevent deranking on both sides that will be hard to accomplish

in 100 % survival rate yesterday! Comment by OrionsFury4789 January 29, 2019

TRGraybles said:

The big problem is that against HC-SWF teams most killers can't do #########, it's not about skill anymore it's about good teamplay. Killers get run ragged by good SWF teams and they can't do ######### about it other then start camping hooks to at least get a kill.

A passive killer buff for every SWF member in the game might be able to fix this problem, something like Freddy's Fire Up perk or something that at least turns the table back a little bit, that way it's not a flat out buff against solo player games!

Maybe give killers more BP for engaging SWF teams, 'cause even that usually sucks, there is no rewards for doing it so why bother?

Or just an option to not play against SWF teams would be an option as well! At least when the SFWers get a lobby they know they got one!

The real balance problem is that survivors are balanced around the strongest possible killer+ build , so basically survivors are balanced around billy, 5 blink nurse, infinite ew 3, insta down hatchets + ebony mori etc... They're built to have a chance against even the strongest but now let's take a normal killer without an insane build who may not play enough to have a chance against a skilled team anyway and here's where the complaints come in, some people can easily kill all four like myself because we played since the release and all the buffs since have been nice. My theory on a way to even the playing field is actually a buff to open handed , I think that anyone within a eight meter range should be able to view eachothers aura reading perks with open handed that way bond/empathy etc.. can be viewed and you don't have to tell anyone anything if they can see it , thus will be a nice buff to the solo survivor not on comms , people complain about voice comms but I can visualize better than be told so if we take away most of the reason to voice com and Nerf the strongest killers to balance the survivors around then the game will be way more even to some

in 100 % survival rate yesterday! Comment by OrionsFury4789 January 29, 2019

gamerscrybecauseofme said:

This is at rank 1. This is how most nurse games end when I play. The nurse isbonlybas good as the player using it. Just like every other part of the game!

https://youtu.be/aXh8ehKvOV4

Looks to me like you're on PS4, it's extremely rare to find a good nurse on there

in This is what those doing survivors are mostly running from Comment by OrionsFury4789 January 27, 2019

Faceless said:

The michael myers add-ons are ridiculous. Tombstone and Evil Level 3 Infinity end the game, there's nothing to do.

The guy uses memento mori, noed, evil level 3 infinite, tombstone.
so everyone took it off, no one is forced to play with this type of cancer. It's ridiculous then the killers cry that survivors give dc. Oh yes, because it's a lot of fun to stay in a match of this and at the end still read '' gg ez ''

Literally all you have to do is all survivors separate from the start, gen rush and cleanse totems. That build is really weak unless you're in a wide open map and teammates are literally following you around for him to stalk and even then you almost have to be giving him the stalk for it to be effective , the fastest way to figure out Myers is running a add on like that is he will be slightly slower than normal and as soon as he gets his stalk from the first survivor he will abandon chase immediately to find another. If everyone separates and plays stealthy from the start that build is rendered useless and will actually hinder him more than help, you just cant have a team of asshats who want to try to troll him and all be there together because then you're feeding into it lol basically that build is a troll magnet and only trolls are gonna pay the price for leaving yourself open and bullying the killer not Knowing/caring what he's got up his sleeve

in Michael Myers add-ons is ridiculous Comment by OrionsFury4789 January 27, 2019

You mean people are actually cheating to prestige now too?! Man I hope the ban hammer comes down hard on those that did I can't stand a cheater, what I want to know is are they able to ban someone who was hardware banned on PC that switched platforms? I would think yes would be a common sense answer but I'm not so sure. would the person have a clean slate until they committed an infraction? Or would they just throw the ban hammer out of assumption?

in If i did the "prestige exploit" and i didnt knew its bannable , i am gonna get banned ? Comment by OrionsFury4789 January 26, 2019

Idk why they name the dlc after a country in the DL file , my dlc for darkness among us just says Dead by daylight:Kenya lol like Jeff appears to be a Kenyan or something

in News on next chapter. Comment by OrionsFury4789 January 26, 2019

Master said:
@OrionsFury4789 said:
Master said:

@fcc2014 said:

Master said:
I only know what Ive readon the forum since I dont play on PS4.

But apparently survivor queue times are awful while killer queues are instant.

This leads me to the conclusion that the killer gameplay has drawn away a lot of killers. And honestly, im not surprised, I wouldnt want to play killer with controller and bad fps either
@Master im really hoping it is a bug and not a player base issue. The game was free like 4 months ago.

Well, as long as killer have insta lobbies, then it doesnt seem to be a bugg.

You need both sides to play the game, so if killers can play, but survivors have long queue times, then its due to a lack of killers. If there was a matchmaking bug, then both sides would feel that, wouldnt they?

I dont think the killer base has left the game, when it became free I think more survivors joined than killers and threw off the ratio because more casual gamers who really don't care will play survivor only and nothing else but people who get caught up in the game play both sides and enjoy it , while it was free alot of survivors we're getting anyone they knew on PlayStation to download it and play with them to have a low rank friend , so my theory is we had a massive boost in survivors joining while the killers just moderately had a boost due to some people finding better games to play when it was bugged so bad then
Its quite some time ago that DBD got f2p on PS and shortly after that there were no killer shortages afaik?

Yes but not everyone played the game immediately when it was free , on PS4 when the game is free you can just add it to your library without downloading it and you can choose to download it whenever you want after that as long as you added it within the free time and with all the issues PlayStation had back then with the game even working at all if you remember, everyone had issues and it was a non stop topic on here during that time , alot of people more than likely slowly joined overtime as other games they played died out and survivor is a more appealing role with the friend option for newer players , this is just my opinion though that more survivors have joined than killers recently

in PS4 Survivor Queue Times Comment by OrionsFury4789 January 23, 2019

Master said:

@fcc2014 said:
Master said:

I only know what Ive readon the forum since I dont play on PS4.

But apparently survivor queue times are awful while killer queues are instant.

This leads me to the conclusion that the killer gameplay has drawn away a lot of killers. And honestly, im not surprised, I wouldnt want to play killer with controller and bad fps either

@Master im really hoping it is a bug and not a player base issue. The game was free like 4 months ago.

Well, as long as killer have insta lobbies, then it doesnt seem to be a bugg.
You need both sides to play the game, so if killers can play, but survivors have long queue times, then its due to a lack of killers. If there was a matchmaking bug, then both sides would feel that, wouldnt they?

I dont think the killer base has left the game, when it became free I think more survivors joined than killers and threw off the ratio because more casual gamers who really don't care will play survivor only and nothing else but people who get caught up in the game play both sides and enjoy it , while it was free alot of survivors we're getting anyone they knew on PlayStation to download it and play with them to have a low rank friend , so my theory is we had a massive boost in survivors joining while the killers just moderately had a boost due to some people finding better games to play when it was bugged so bad then

in PS4 Survivor Queue Times Comment by OrionsFury4789 January 23, 2019

chefdave12118 said:

What is mlg software, and what does it do and how do I get it (if it's allowed)?

I wouldn't use it , it's basically a tool to block certain survivors or killers from joining with you which in my opinion is part of the balance problem by people who would normally be at low ranks just skating to the top by blocking everyone that's good then getting on here to cry when they finally are at the top and are forced to "Derank" because it's impossible to them at the top when every other team/killer is one of those teams/killers they've hid from the whole time, match this with the already broken ranking system and lobby dodgers.....it's kinda easy to notice why the whole ranking system is a joke and the community is a gigantic dumpster fire of people being toxic to each other

in MLGA makes my game freeze for a few seconds when i play as killer Comment by OrionsFury4789 January 23, 2019

weirdkid5 said:
@OrionsFury4789 said:
weirdkid5 said:

@OrionsFury4789 said:

weirdkid5 said:
@powerbats said:

@weirdkid5 said:

@ForeheadSurviors said:

Yeah ok



I mean it is technically a legit strat, it just isn't viable. Camping aside, it still only takes 160 seconds to repair all 5 gens with proper coordination
True and if people stopped rewarding it so much killers would stop doing it except for the dedicated ones that just want to watch the world burn.
I do wonder how much camping skewers the survival statistics at each rank same as dc's on both sides along with crashes.



If people would stop going after camped hooks, the stats would show the game is heavily stacked against Killers. Along with the dc's and crashes, I got no doubt the Kill stats would be a lot more accurate. Choosing to go save a camped Survivor shouldn't be taken into consideration for balance, as that is a personal choice of the Survivor, optimal strategy is to just repair and escape instead of risking more loss to the Benevolent Emblem. If people simply left the Survivor, the kill rates would plummet. There's always that one dude who tries to save against campers (usually that's me, but I don't blindly run in there like some do).
You're wrong , because at higher ranks it's not gonna go down the way it does in lower ranks, survivors will either do all the gens , or bait you and then BT save their buddy , you end up with nobody at that point. Anytime it's a leatherface, wraith , or pig camping you know to just gen rush and not be a hero because LF can take out multiple people and the other two can cancel BT with their already built in mechanics and no insidious included

A Killer that is dedicated to camping, i.e. one that refuses to leave 5 feet away from the hook, is impossible to save against. I'm sorry, but if the Killer wants the guy on hook dead, he's dead. You can't BT bait anymore without trading yourself out on the hook, and this goes for every single Killer.

If the Killer wants someone to die on the hook, it's 100% going to happen as long as he isn't mentally inept.

Well I guess that's where we disagree but that's fine we're both entitled to our opinions , at higher ranks the games I'm in the camped survivor gets away from it majority of the time unless it's those three killers is why I've formed that opinion but I'm on PS4 so I don't know if that really makes a difference or not
I mean if a Killer just stares at the guy on the hook, and doesn't move unless someone attempts a save, then you aren't really going to get the guy off the hook even with BT. Even if you do, you're going on the hook next because BT doesn't work that way anymore and you're gonna get slapped twice before you even get control of your guy back.

No see thats where one guy pretends to unhook gets smacked and then your buddy that's hiding right there with BT hops in and unhooks while the killer is stuck in the after hit animation ezpz if you know how to bait them , with swf at high ranks you need a reliable camper if that's your strategy

in Camping is a Viable Strategy Comment by OrionsFury4789 January 22, 2019

weirdkid5 said:
@OrionsFury4789 said:
weirdkid5 said:

@powerbats said:

@weirdkid5 said:

@ForeheadSurviors said:

Yeah ok

I mean it is technically a legit strat, it just isn't viable. Camping aside, it still only takes 160 seconds to repair all 5 gens with proper coordination
True and if people stopped rewarding it so much killers would stop doing it except for the dedicated ones that just want to watch the world burn.
I do wonder how much camping skewers the survival statistics at each rank same as dc's on both sides along with crashes.

If people would stop going after camped hooks, the stats would show the game is heavily stacked against Killers. Along with the dc's and crashes, I got no doubt the Kill stats would be a lot more accurate. Choosing to go save a camped Survivor shouldn't be taken into consideration for balance, as that is a personal choice of the Survivor, optimal strategy is to just repair and escape instead of risking more loss to the Benevolent Emblem. If people simply left the Survivor, the kill rates would plummet. There's always that one dude who tries to save against campers (usually that's me, but I don't blindly run in there like some do).

You're wrong , because at higher ranks it's not gonna go down the way it does in lower ranks, survivors will either do all the gens , or bait you and then BT save their buddy , you end up with nobody at that point. Anytime it's a leatherface, wraith , or pig camping you know to just gen rush and not be a hero because LF can take out multiple people and the other two can cancel BT with their already built in mechanics and no insidious included
A Killer that is dedicated to camping, i.e. one that refuses to leave 5 feet away from the hook, is impossible to save against. I'm sorry, but if the Killer wants the guy on hook dead, he's dead. You can't BT bait anymore without trading yourself out on the hook, and this goes for every single Killer.

If the Killer wants someone to die on the hook, it's 100% going to happen as long as he isn't mentally inept.

Well I guess that's where we disagree but that's fine we're both entitled to our opinions , at higher ranks the games I'm in the camped survivor gets away from it majority of the time unless it's those three killers is why I've formed that opinion but I'm on PS4 so I don't know if that really makes a difference or not

in Camping is a Viable Strategy Comment by OrionsFury4789 January 22, 2019

weirdkid5 said:

@powerbats said:

@weirdkid5 said:

@ForeheadSurviors said:
Yeah ok

I mean it is technically a legit strat, it just isn't viable. Camping aside, it still only takes 160 seconds to repair all 5 gens with proper coordination

True and if people stopped rewarding it so much killers would stop doing it except for the dedicated ones that just want to watch the world burn.

I do wonder how much camping skewers the survival statistics at each rank same as dc's on both sides along with crashes.

If people would stop going after camped hooks, the stats would show the game is heavily stacked against Killers. Along with the dc's and crashes, I got no doubt the Kill stats would be a lot more accurate. Choosing to go save a camped Survivor shouldn't be taken into consideration for balance, as that is a personal choice of the Survivor, optimal strategy is to just repair and escape instead of risking more loss to the Benevolent Emblem. If people simply left the Survivor, the kill rates would plummet. There's always that one dude who tries to save against campers (usually that's me, but I don't blindly run in there like some do).

You're wrong , because at higher ranks it's not gonna go down the way it does in lower ranks, survivors will either do all the gens , or bait you and then BT save their buddy , you end up with nobody at that point. Anytime it's a leatherface, wraith , or pig camping you know to just gen rush and not be a hero because LF can take out multiple people and the other two can cancel BT with their already built in mechanics and no insidious included

in Camping is a Viable Strategy Comment by OrionsFury4789 January 22, 2019

KissyKissy said:

At least in low ranks like me. When I get teabagged, I hook them and face camp them and nod my head. Then I swing at them to let them know who's boss. If you don't like it then you shouldnt have teabagged.

However, I started noticing that even though I did so and only expected that one kill, I would still get 3 or more kills due to altruist zealotry. So I go Trapper, began adding Insidious, NOED and M&A, then I plant 3 traps around hooked victim and hide nearbye.

This last game I downed 3 people and stacked there bodies on top of each other. lol Then I let them bleed out while I set more traps over and over simply for more BP.

I'm gonna camp all the time and if you dont like it that's too bad. Maybe you should try doing gen's. lol

Hey it's your choice to play how you want and the survivors choice how they handle it , me personally I like to run MYC on a high mobility killer because it makes the game more interesting for me , I would honestly recommend leatherface for the strategy you've laid out above just because he can camp more effectively than any other killer and can take multiple survivors at a time with that chainsaw if they try to hook rush you to give their buddy a BT , the trapper is really easy to manipulate when he's camping and at higher ranks ive noticed he'll end up losing the BT or stepping in his own trap, there is a reason why they camp instead of regular chase play

in Camping is a Viable Strategy Comment by OrionsFury4789 January 22, 2019

Ryuhi said:

I think their point was that survivors do it just as often, but they wait until the game started rather than before it can even start. Not even just the quitting for deranking or dcing the second they hear a nurse screech, but also the ones who sandbag, get caught instantly and suicide on the hook, etc.

If I had to choose, I'd rather games like that just not start so I can avoid wasting my items/addons/offerings.

On console that fear of the nurse is non existent , I could probably count on one hand how many nurse players I've had that I could say damn I better watch myself this time, but I'm just gonna put it out there because this is probably what it is getting me dodged , I like to use flashlights alot and I'll bring them or trade for them alot of the time , I'm also a medkit user because I don't use self-care so I guess it may be perceived as a insta heal though it's not majority of the time (not gonna pretend like I never use them though) but that's why I complain about being dodged for items, killers have their ebony mori, infinite tier three , tombstone, one shot add ons, blindness / aura reading add ons, 5 blink nurse add ons etc.. and all I want to do is bring a intended ######### item into my game to make it more fun for me against these things because I'm at a rank where that's all I see , you have perks or really mechanics already there tbh to counter anything I do if you do it right, dodging is BS and someone shouldn't Dodge this stuff all the way to rank one and then complain about seeing it all the time , people who do this don't belong at that rank because they cherry picked their way to one and now feel like they have to "derank" it's a joke at this point

in To lobbydodgers Comment by OrionsFury4789 January 22, 2019

kimukipi said:

It's the items and cosmetics

@OrionsFury4789 items? maybe. but cosmetics? Is that even a thing? I know in low ranks killers could become scared of seeing all P3 claudettes (I used to dodge that when I was new to game) but who does that in high ranks lol?

You would be surprised .....

in To lobbydodgers Comment by OrionsFury4789 January 21, 2019

PiiFree said:

@OrionsFury4789 said:
It's the items and cosmetics @PiiFree I literally have to make myself look like a noob to get a game sometimes, it's not all the time as I've said before in the morning I have better luck finding a game but in the evening time it's lobby simulator and getting dodged left and right, that's when I've been playing killer now because there's no point in waiting 2 hours to get one match . It wasn't like this until the last update I mean times were always somewhat messed up but never had the problem of being dodged until the matchmaking system breaks itself and you just sit there getting nothing

Do you play in low rank? It's probably the side-effect of all the derankers that killers started to pay more attention.

As I said, I rarely get dodged but I play in Rank 1 and I always try to get back there asap after reset. I suppose Rank 1 has more competent and confident Killers than Rank 10, obviously those lesser experienced Killers are afraid to face tryhards.

I am always rank one lol I get there like four days after the reset it has nothing to do with that @Vietfox can vouch for my rank

in To lobbydodgers Comment by OrionsFury4789 January 21, 2019

PiiFree said:

I still only rarely get dodged, even when I play in SWF.

Maybe it's a personal problem you have? Like no one wants to play with you (anymore) because of previous matches / experiences?

Regional DbD community for high rank is not that big. I keep facing the same guys over and over again and apparently people know/remember me aswell. Toxic behaviour can easily lead to players trying to avoid you.

There's also a high chance that you get back in the same Killers lobby again after they dodged so it's very possible that you got dodged several times by the same Killer.

It's the items and cosmetics @PiiFree I literally have to make myself look like a noob to get a game sometimes, it's not all the time as I've said before in the morning I have better luck finding a game but in the evening time it's lobby simulator and getting dodged left and right, that's when I've been playing killer now because there's no point in waiting 2 hours to get one match . It wasn't like this until the last update I mean times were always somewhat messed up but never had the problem of being dodged until the matchmaking system breaks itself and you just sit there getting nothing

in To lobbydodgers Comment by OrionsFury4789 January 21, 2019

Master said:

kimukipi said:

I dodge lobbies only for below reasons.
1. Some survivor refuses to leave even though he got a 300+ ping.
2. Toxic survivor(s) that I have played against before and were not a good sport.
3. More than two toolboxes. I don't like running FD btw and oh ruin is a joke.
4. Survivors that refuse to ready up at least 10 seconds ahead of the game. Last second switch to 4 man FL is a no-no for me.

Apart from these, I don't really care even if its 4 man SWF with insta heals and DS. I play games to wind up after a long day at work. So, if I know a game ain't going to be enjoyable, I have no reason to proceed.

With these criteria I would probably havr to dodge 70% of all lobbies. I understand your reasoning though

And this is our point @Master you yourself just said if you followed that you would have to dodge 70% of the games you got, how many people do you think are out there doing that ? All because of intended items or just the way a survivor looks or who they might be? That's exactly why we say you should play something else if you're dodging 70%+ of the games you're offered, it's not fair to everyone else

in To lobbydodgers Comment by OrionsFury4789 January 21, 2019

@Paddy4583 I'm in the NA region so that may be what the difference is , for some reason it's like pulling teeth to get a game unless it's the early morning hours playing solo which seem to go quick other than that I've really had no choice but play killer or play something else, so from my perspective I play lobby simulator for 2 hours and get three games if I'm lucky , give up and play killer for about 2 hours with consistent lobbies and there goes the whole evening... Unless I play a different game that actually works. My point is that I should be able to play the lobbies that pop up the first couple times I que up, them dodging is breaking the matchmaking system and making it take hours for some to find a game because by the second or third Dodge you don't find anything for a long time it seems