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  • Roobnus said:

    @OrionsFury4789 said:
    Not lying about anything it's funny you're so remedial you want to couple me with the person who said it was possible in every match , I said it was totally possible to stockpile, and with 80 you could definitely start playing them every match for at least a couple of weeks with that and who says you don't pick up more along the way? The fact you have 80 and you're going to say their UR and hard to come by earlier is laughable, I'm gonna play ebony mori in every match today and I guarantee I don't lose, I may even set up a twitch and stream it today

    I repeat:

    All I am saying is that you CAN'T maintain ebony mori for every single match.

    You replied to me with that unrelated nonsense that you have 45 ebony moris on your spirit. It's of no relevance. It has nothing to do with my OP. YOU started with this nonsense after I perfectly clear explained why it's not possible to maintain ebony moris every single match.

    Let me quote myself:

    @Roobnus said:
    Seriously, all the players that claim you can maintain an ebony mori every single match need to stop. It's a blatant lie at that point, everyone knows that. Ebony Mori, even with a P3/50 character appears maybe once every 3 bloodwebs at best. You need ~80k bloodpoints per lvl 50 bloodweb on average, so that's 240k bloodpoints.

    To which you replied:

    @OrionsFury4789 said:
    Dude I play killer more than survivor and I have 45 ebony mori on my spirit right now and it's not far fetched to think older killers in the game would  have more if someone was maining someone like the trapper  , either you're a noob or just don't know what you're talking about.

    How is that of ANY relevance to my post? Explain, please.

    Well ok, if you can stockpile ebony mori then someone could have over 200 easy and if they CHOSE to play them every match starting right now then counting actual events and BP events coming up it would be easy to keep that cycle going for quite some time and even switch between killers who have them stockpiled as well, some people may have over 100 on multiple killers . It's very possible to keep that streak going for months of nothing but playing Ebony mori , that's the relevance to your post you say it's impossible to play them every match , yea nd so is a syringe insta heal but if you stock up big and start using them you would get enough in bloodweb and through events to keep that cycle going for quite some time before it actually ran out. My original post was to you talking about Ebony mori and about how it's your opinion that swf is unfun to play against not everyone feels the same as you 
  • Roobnus said:

    @OrionsFury4789 said:
    You should really read your own post I was referring to what you said about Ebony mori and your comment to him about swf being unfun to go against but that's YOUR opinion , I have fun with it and I love the salt afterwards I put that ######### in my coffee every morning along with their tears , so do us all a favor and re read your own post next time before you answer telling someone you didn't just say it was impossible to stockpile mori or about swf , if you were here that long then where the hell were you during the winter event when ebony mori were like candy in the present in the bloodweb?

    Yes, and I refuse to believe that you can maintain ebony moris for every single match.

    It's a blatant lie, nothing else and it's simply ridiculous that you guys still refuse to admit it. Yes, you can totally stack up loads of ebonys but that's not part of this discussion. I currently have over 80 on my billy but that's the result of several hundred hours playtime.

    People claimed that you can maintain ebony moris for every single match, that's SIMPLY NOT TRUE. End of discussion, or you seriously want to keep lying about it?

    And your SWF experience is exactly what I described before: The salt. You enjoy the salt. That's your opinon but that doesn't change the fact that they are salty, in fact you even admit it.

    You're seriously not worth my time. You missed every single point and started to make up ######### that I never said. Where did I say ANYTHING about it's impossible to stockpile moris? Quote me. GO AHEAD. I'm waiting.

    I SAID YOU CAN'T MAINTAIN MORIS FOR

    EVERY
    SINGLE
    MATCH

    BECAUSE YOU CAN'T FARM ENOUGH BLOODPOINTS TO GO THROUGH 3+ BLOODWEBS IN A SINGLE MATCH.

    DO YOU GET IT NOW?

    Not lying about anything it's funny you're so remedial you want to couple me with the person who said it was possible in every match , I said it was totally possible to stockpile, and with 80 you could definitely start playing them every match for at least a couple of weeks with that and who says you don't pick up more along the way? The fact you have 80 and you're going to say their UR and hard to come by earlier is laughable, I'm gonna play ebony mori in every match today and I guarantee I don't lose, I may even set up a twitch and stream it today
  • As far as I can see, this game is as balanced as it can be. Due to the large number of killers, maps, and the randomness of what addons and offering killers use, it's impossible to perfectly balance it. It's not chess or tennis where you're on equal footing with your opponent. Nor does it have to be. Sometimes the odds are against you, sometimes they're not. 
    Complaints... yeah, there are way too many of those. I love it how people demand "remove xyz perk immediately" :)
    But I think you're completely wrong about killer being overpowered. With proper play, decent survivors can beat the killer rather easily.
    Like a number of players put it, it's like this:
    SWF (on comm) > killer > solo survivors. That's roughly how it is. And a lot of luck.
    The game is balanced for the most part , you're absolutely right about that which is why 90% of suggestions for buffs on both sides are just ridiculous, when I can set a certain map with my killer or switch my add ons/ offering and get an advantage even over SWF  then the game is balanced for the most part just like if I don't bring anything worth a ######### on my killer  then of course I may have a harder time against insta heals and flashlights etc.. they're bringing their best they've got while I'm bringing little to nothing , it's easy to see why you would lose its like the difference with and without prayer beads on a spirit , totally different difficulty level at that point 
  • Roobnus said:

    @OrionsFury4789 said:
    Dude I play killer more than survivor and I have 45 ebony mori on my spirit right now and it's not far fetched to think older killers in the game would  have more if someone was maining someone like the trapper  , either you're a noob or just don't know what you're talking about. Killer sucked to play a year and a half ago and I was right here complaining too but with all the changes since I haven't had any problems winning my matches you even admitted to me in a earlier post its not hard to win against them , and there is no such thing as a try hard when you're using the game intended perks you guys need to grow up and just play a different game if you have that many things about this one game that upsets you and that's not me being a dick but person to person if this game is pissing you people off that bad and you feel like it's that unfair and unbalanced then QUIT playing it's not healthy for you guys to be pissed off crying on here 24/7

    I'm playing since 2016, but go ahead and call me noob.

    You seriously need to read more carefully what you read. Playing Killer is not a problem, nowhere in my post did I mention the balance between Killers and Survivors. I'm solely talking about the imbalance of SWFs.

    Tell me one thing:
    What has changed regarding the SWF problematics?

    Exactly nothing.

    I already explained perfectly fine why playing against SWF is not fun, it has nothing to do with being able to 4k or not, not necessarily. Please, please do me a favour and read my post again and responde to actual quotes I said instead of typing the same irrelevant nonsense over and over again.

    Killers and Survivors are (mostly) balanced. SWF is not, for the reason I mentioned above.

    You should really read your own post I was referring to what you said about Ebony mori and your comment to him about swf being unfun to go against but that's YOUR opinion , I have fun with it and I love the salt afterwards I put that ######### in my coffee every morning along with their tears , so do us all a favor and re read your own post next time before you answer telling someone you didn't just say it was impossible to stockpile mori or about swf , if you were here that long then where the hell were you during the winter event when ebony mori were like candy in the present in the bloodweb?
  • Roobnus said:

    Seriously, all the players that claim you can maintain an ebony mori every single match need to stop. It's a blatant lie at that point, everyone knows that. Ebony Mori, even with a P3/50 character appears maybe once every 3 bloodwebs at best. You need ~80k bloodpoints per lvl 50 bloodweb on average, so that's 240k bloodpoints.

    So tell me again how you're going to maintain ebony moris when you need 240k bloodpoints for each? At that point you're effectively making ridiculous ######### up.

    Not to mention that matches with Ebony Moris yield less bloodpoints since you're going to lack hook points. The credibility of certain users here is very questionable after I read such statements.

    Regarding SWFs, @knell explained it perfectly;
    SWFs play their game. The Killer might aswell be an NPC, it wouldn't matter to most of them. It's just "something" that also happens to be playing the game, but not with us. The classic 5th wheel.

    There's 3 things that are most likely going to happen:

    • Killer plays along in a boring match, doesn't tryhard and thus doesn't ruin their fun to avoid getting flamed. SWFs are happy, Killer is not.

    • Killer plays normal, kills them and gets flamed for tryharding and not providing a funny match. Killer might be happy, SWFs are not.

    • ...or you get unlucky and face a proteam that destroys you regardless of your playstyle. SWFs are happy, Killer is not.

    It's most of the time simply not a fun experience to play against SWFs - and it's time to accept that.

    That's also why no one plays KYF. If you play Killer against your own friends, it most likely won't be a funny experience for one side or another. You're going to get in trouble, almost guaranteed. We all know it's true. Some people just have trouble admitting it.

    Dude I play killer more than survivor and I have 45 ebony mori on my spirit right now and it's not far fetched to think older killers in the game would  have more if someone was maining someone like the trapper  , either you're a noob or just don't know what you're talking about. Killer sucked to play a year and a half ago and I was right here complaining too but with all the changes since I haven't had any problems winning my matches you even admitted to me in a earlier post its not hard to win against them , and there is no such thing as a try hard when you're using the game intended perks you guys need to grow up and just play a different game if you have that many things about this one game that upsets you and that's not me being a dick but person to person if this game is pissing you people off that bad and you feel like it's that unfair and unbalanced then QUIT playing it's not healthy for you guys to be pissed off crying on here 24/7
  • If you're a trapper main like your pic, you can try something I used to do when I mained him which is pretend to pick them up by starting the trap setting motion instead and majority of the time you'll bait the flashlighter out and if all else fails start to look one way and then last second turn the complete other way and that will throw off the timing usually
  • Vietfox said:
    A cooldown for crouching, IN BALANCE FEEDBACK. Look at this @OrionsFury4789
    I'm dying 😂😂😂
    Wow I'm done lmao
  • It's such a small map with nothing really in it, they should rework that map and add more to it 
  • Roobnus said:

    @OrionsFury4789 said:
    Well I didn't say I was a casual you shouldn't put words in my mouth and you have no idea how I play maybe you should keep your ASSumptions to yourself, dont sit here and pretend like you win every single game at high ranks it's super easy for team mates to screw the whole team over and everyone knows it 

    When I say "You", I'm not talking about YOU personally but the players that identify themselves as casuals, Apologies for the misunderstanding but I thought it was quite obvious in the context of my post.

    My point is that survivors may have a slight advantage whenever they're all competent but it's not huge and you never usually get people in the same SWF of equal skill level and over alturism screws them 90% of the time because they don't want to leave their buddies behind or they stop doing gens to try and get your attention to save someone else , I 3-4k every match without a big issue and I never camp or tunnel I run MYC on a high mobility killer and I run a hook n go build and patrol gens and hunt the unhooker down , there are also certain add ons and offerings that can swing the advantage to the killers side that's how close to balanced the game already is when something so small can change the whole outcome of a match
  • Roobnus said:

    @OrionsFury4789 said:
    That's your choice , they're trying to more even it out the best they can but this game is balanced around casuals because they make up more of the game than you realize, I'm sure alot of people can agree with that ,but understand that survival rates are under 50%  at red ranks even with all the derankers and farmers allowing them all to survive , not everyone plays the game like the depip squad and it's quite easy to get 3 or 4k 85% of the time , it's super rare to run into a squad that can just mop the floor with me I've only had it happen a handful of times and I can usually see where I went wrong 

    So let me get this straight.

    Fact 1: Survivors are at an advantage in high ranks.
    Fact 2: Survivors lose more often than they win in high rank
    (using your own words as source)

    Conclusion: Even though the Survivors are at an advantage, they somehow still manage to lose more often?

    My personal reflection of this:
    Too many survivors identify themselves as "being casuals". After hundreds of hours playing this game day in day out, you're not a casual anymore.

    You have the experience and knowledge required to be good at the game.
    You have the advantage of the game at your side.
    You have your friends at your side to help you achieve victory.

    And you STILL lose? That can only mean two things:

    • you are incredibly bad at the game
    • you purposely throw games because you don't even try to win

    Both those things mean that the results from high rank matches are not actually representative for balance. One scenario means the players weren't actually high skilled and the other scenario means the players didn't even try to win, so naturally they're more likely to lose.

    Well I didn't say I was a casual you shouldn't put words in my mouth and you have no idea how I play maybe you should keep your ASSumptions to yourself, dont sit here and pretend like you win every single game at high ranks it's super easy for team mates to screw the whole team over and everyone knows it 
  • Roobnus said:

    @OrionsFury4789 said:
    @Roobnus I guess I can agree with you on the ranking side of it and Mathieu has said it several times that it's not meant to be an e sport that's why marth88 and other killers decided to leave or take a break, because they proved that a top notch squad could beat even the best killer that's no secret but not every swf is the depip squad it's really rare to have a group that makes zero mistakes and sometimes something as small as going the right direction and catching a survivor off guard at the beginning can impact the whole game in your favor

    So let me get this straight:

    People KNOW that the game is not balanced in high rank, yet they can't understand why people of high rank ask for balance in the high rank?

    And to excuse the imbalance in high rank, they take low / mid rank matches as examples for balance? What?

    I'm not gonna lie, I think the first thing I'm going to do tonight is depip on purpose just to get to the "balanced" ranks.

    If the devs refuse to balance the game around the hardcore players, the players that spend the most time playing their game, the players that play it to an extreme, then I have no other choice but to balance it myself, by heading to the ranks where the game is supposed to be balanced.

    That's your choice , they're trying to more even it out the best they can but this game is balanced around casuals because they make up more of the game than you realize, I'm sure alot of people can agree with that ,but understand that survival rates are under 50%  at red ranks even with all the derankers and farmers allowing them all to survive , not everyone plays the game like the depip squad and it's quite easy to get 3 or 4k 85% of the time , it's super rare to run into a squad that can just mop the floor with me I've only had it happen a handful of times and I can usually see where I went wrong 
  • @Roobnus I guess I can agree with you on the ranking side of it and Mathieu has said it several times that it's not meant to be an e sport that's why marth88 and other killers decided to leave or take a break, because they proved that a top notch squad could beat even the best killer that's no secret but not every swf is the depip squad it's really rare to have a group that makes zero mistakes and sometimes something as small as going the right direction and catching a survivor off guard at the beginning can impact the whole game in your favor

    @The_Crusader it's so easy to rank up that even with a full time job like myself I can always get to one on both sides and have time to do what I want in the day the ranking system needs to be fixed to try and keep people together with the same skill level
  • So, basically what you have shown us here is some snippet out of a complete miscommunication during an SWF play, that looks like semi low rank play (the miscommunication and lack of situational awareness).

    Great example...

    Go ahead and laugh at this post, Miss SWF.
    Remember what the word "carry" means and how it applies not only to other player skills but also broken mechanics that are allowed in the game, as such mechanics can be abused to be "carried" out of your proper place.

    Current ranking beside (it is a broken system beyond belief; at the level of intern game design), some of your party members in the way you speak here, belong in the newbie/casual zone, not because of "lack of skill" (gameplay sample is too small), but due to complete lack of game knowledge.

    Yea but you're gonna completely ignore how lobby dodgers break the ranking too right? Bias much? , I swear if I wouldn't get lynched off this forum I'd post one of my videos on here and really get some people riled up, there have been plenty of times I wanted to use my survivor or killer videos as an example to an argument but I'm not about that self promotion on the forums life and not trying to get harrassed on one more platform than I already do 
  • Roobnus said:

    And while we're at it:
    You excuse an obvious imbalance with the lack of skill of the majority.

    Yes, not every SWF is broken but that doesn't change the fact that it CAN be broken - IF the players know how to play.

    This game is balanced around casuals I don't know how many times the devs have to tell you guys it's not a damn e sport , you really want to kill this game? Balance it the way you're talking about and watch anyone who's below a rank 5 survivor totally dip on this game because they already don't play it alot, sure me and some of my friends could easily accept the changes but you bring in people not as dedicated as we are who literally still get the jumps off this game or just play it when they're enjoying a break in their normal routine and throw them into that situation and watch the ones who aren't hardcore ALL hit the road and leave you with the same toxic survivors over and over again, while we can agree there are a few things that need to be addressed on the killer side , the same could be said about survivors, and at this point in the game it's balanced for the most part it's really just QOL changes that are needed.
  • @OrionsFury4789 said:l
    Master said:

    @OrionsFury4789 said:

    Tsulan said:

    Nickenzie said:
    
    
    
    Vietfox said:
    
    
    
    @fcc2014  said:
    
    @Vietfox have you joined lobby dodgers anonymous????
    
    
    
    Never! I would rather uninstall DbD than becoming a lobby dodger.
    
    This here basically ^^^
    
    So you both would abandon the game.
    

    Interesting 

    Make that three because I'd rather uninstall this game than cherry pick lobbies all day , I'm here to have fun not waste anyone's time , in fact the past week I really haven't even played survivor because the times are still so bad I don't want to wait and piss myself off. 

    Well just play killer then?

    I pray to God they implement bans on dodgers so I can play what I want and not be forced to play killer to enjoy this game , this is one of my favorite games and while I like playing killer alot I like playing survivor more so here I am a week into playing nothing but killer and it's just getting kinda lame when survivor ques take 45 mins a match 

    Survivor queues don't take long because killers dodge lobbies. They take long because there are not enough people playing killer.

    If lobby dodgers would get banned, that would result in even longer qeues for survivors.

    If you want faster survivor qeues, then you must want more people to play killer.

    I get lobbies fast and I get dodged a few times and then I'm stuck for a long time thats my issue currently , I'm waiting until the dodgers rank up before I play survivor again so I can have those insta ques  
  • Master said:

    @OrionsFury4789 said:
    Tsulan said:


    Nickenzie said:


    Vietfox said:


    @fcc2014 said:

    @Vietfox have you joined lobby dodgers anonymous????

    Never! I would rather uninstall DbD than becoming a lobby dodger.

    This here basically ^^^

    So you both would abandon the game.
    Interesting 

    Make that three because I'd rather uninstall this game than cherry pick lobbies all day , I'm here to have fun not waste anyone's time , in fact the past week I really haven't even played survivor because the times are still so bad I don't want to wait and piss myself off. 

    Well just play killer then?

    I pray to God they implement bans on dodgers so I can play what I want and not be forced to play killer to enjoy this game , this is one of my favorite games and while I like playing killer alot I like playing survivor more so here I am a week into playing nothing but killer and it's just getting kinda lame when survivor ques take 45 mins a match 
  • Master said:

    @OrionsFury4789 said:
    Tsulan said:


    Nickenzie said:


    Vietfox said:


    @fcc2014 said:

    @Vietfox have you joined lobby dodgers anonymous????

    Never! I would rather uninstall DbD than becoming a lobby dodger.

    This here basically ^^^

    So you both would abandon the game.
    Interesting 

    Make that three because I'd rather uninstall this game than cherry pick lobbies all day , I'm here to have fun not waste anyone's time , in fact the past week I really haven't even played survivor because the times are still so bad I don't want to wait and piss myself off. 

    Well just play killer then?

    That's all Ive been doing that's my point I've played zero survivor lately
  • Tsulan said:
    Nickenzie said:
    Vietfox said:
    @fcc2014 said:

    @Vietfox have you joined lobby dodgers anonymous????

    Never! I would rather uninstall DbD than becoming a lobby dodger.
    This here basically ^^^
    So you both would abandon the game.
    Interesting 
    Make that three because I'd rather uninstall this game than cherry pick lobbies all day , I'm here to have fun not waste anyone's time , in fact the past week I really haven't even played survivor because the times are still so bad I don't want to wait and piss myself off. 
  • Have you tried turning up your sensitivity? More than likely the survivors have maxed out their sensitivity what I do is when I'm close enough, I know they are gonna do it I kinda just go towards the direction but I kinda back up while doing it and I just tap the hit button instead of hold it and I'll usually get the hit but if you lunge or bite too early you'll usually get 360 on
  • @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tucking_Friggered said:
    It doesn't matter what the worst SWF teams can do, it only matters what the best can. If the best can play in a way that makes winning all but impossible for any but a dedicated Nurse then there is a problem.

    Every killer could run Ebony Mori so we should be balancing around that as well.

    Ebony mori is a UR blood web item and can not be maintained every match by virtue of the cost and scarcity. Try again.

    I have 45 ebony mori on my spirit right now LMAO
  • Sorry, but I hate everything about him. His voice, his sounds are disgusting, I literally can't take it. His whimpering is even more disgusting.
    His character model while running is making me angry, Idk why. Whenever I play killer I break chases against Jeffs or completely mute the game, I can't take it. 

    Just wanted to share this, am I the only one? 
    (Sorry to all Jeff mains tho, but I really want to smash things when I see or hear a Jeff)
    Damn sounds like people should start playing Jeff against you lol
    I will go afk if people would last second switch to 4 man Jeff lol
    Lmao Jeff's voice is pretty annoying , him running not injured is like the injured David level of noise 
  • This will make the game I like to play with my friends interesting, we created a mini game we play when ques are  bad and a bunch of us are on, we get Michael Myers and equip PWYF, agitation, unrelenting, and mad grit with the fragrant tuft of hair add on and we go to blood lodge in KYF, everyone has a purple flashlight and plays a shiny coin, Michael tiers all the way up from the start and one person gets chosen at random to start the game and he downs them and then gets PWYF stacks and once it's full he picks them up and starts chasing you with a survivor on his shoulder , he can drop them to break pallets but that's it , once someone else is down you can start wiggling free, your team's job is to try and save the people when he's picking up or while being chased , if you perform a save then Michael has to catch one like normal to start the process again ,there are no gens involved but it's a really fun way to practice flashlight saves and also fun to play Michael the speed is unbelievable LMAO sometimes it's nice to break from the usual
  • After Nurse and Billy...

    Possibly Hag. She can be everywhere. If you don't have Urban Evasion it becomes so much harder too. Her camp game is incredibly strong.
    The Hag can camp without camping lol  and if you run mint Rag, Rusty shackles and  MYC together it's basically a GG for those survivors even though is a ######### way to play , personally I think the spirit is the most powerful because she can phase long distances, you can't see her while she's phasing, she comes out of the phase with a boost, and its easier to mind game SWF , you hook someone and look the opposite direction of where you actually want to go before you phase then guy on hook misinforms his buddy that I'm coming there when I'm really somewhere else 
  • i left this on the dbd Facebook page, but felt the need to post here as well. The event progression is already ######### for anybody with a life outside this game, but made even worse by toxic killers disconnecting near the endgame. I’m on ps4, and about 50% of my most recent matches have ended with killers dc’ing denying survivors the chance to escape with the lanterns. Seriously makes playing the game a worthless chore if trying to get event points. C’mon Behaviour, #########?
    For some reason when I play rotten fields  with the doctor my game blue screens, it just started yesterday but it happened twice both of which times there were two survivors with four gens left which feels bad when you've played a good game only to get booted I wish I knew what caused the bluescreen 
  • Sorry, but I hate everything about him. His voice, his sounds are disgusting, I literally can't take it. His whimpering is even more disgusting.
    His character model while running is making me angry, Idk why. Whenever I play killer I break chases against Jeffs or completely mute the game, I can't take it. 

    Just wanted to share this, am I the only one? 
    (Sorry to all Jeff mains tho, but I really want to smash things when I see or hear a Jeff)
    Damn sounds like people should start playing Jeff against you lol
  • This game is zero fun when someone is using Doctor on PS4... it lags down to like 10 FPS the entire match... Is that why you choose doctor? I see matches where the lag screws killer and survivor over equally, so its pointless and unfun.

    Maybe you have an older console like the original PS4? Ive heard of fps issues in that sceny
  • It would be great for when que times are up or someone just wants a break from the usual
  • Had a game where I was being tunnelled like a good un and was on my death hook and was currently injured. Was 1 gen left and managed to evade killer for as long as I could. I was running forward knowing I was down then gen pops!!
    I manage to get a speed boost and heal, just as he swiped at me. 

    Still got tunnelled and got a hit on me, but thanks to survivors taking a few hits for me, I got out!
    Clutch adrenaline moment there and more satisfying knowing how I was tunnelled. 
    What are your most clutch adrenaline moments? 
    Adrenaline kicked in and I was insta healed and used the boost to make it to get a last second flashlight save
  • knell said:

    @twistedmonkey said:
    I am saying they are  currently changing the matchmaking, all survivors and killer will load into a pre lobby and get matched up and every 30 second they will join the lobby we have now so all survivors will join at once eaxh and every game, some players dodged when that happens currently as it was a way to tell if they were swf, so they are with this new system removing that option.

    That's the point they shouldn't be allowed they should play the game as it is and stop cherry picking games, with what I said above it seems the devs are already taking a step towards making that happen.

    The proof regarding the bugs is there for you to read yourself on this very forum, it is the reason they state they are changing the matchmaking, it just so happens that it also removed the killers way of all joining at once to dodge for swf, while that could be coincidental it seems logical with the lobby dodging problem it could also be an intended feature.

    With the emblem system camping can in fact be game breaking as it removes you from being able to get an emblem, doing gens and getting out punishes it but it also means you may not pip.

    Lobby dodging may not be bannable but do you honestly think they like it happening? As I already stated the new system will remove a way to tell if its SWF coincidental or not it's changing, they could easily add an swf indicator but you know they won't and for good reason.

    Of cours eit hold merit, any designer knows what tools are available, they chose to add swf knowing the tools to communicate were out there, do you honestly think it was never brought up in conversation when they were discussing it? The game is a coop multiplayer no matter the original concept it changed from the business point of view, it is and always will be part if the game, nothing will ever change that, the fact that the stats show killer over 55% win rate also tells the devs it's not as unbalanced as the complainers say, it is impossible to balance swf and solo, they need to nerf swf imo how they do I don't know but buffing solo isn't working, that doesn't mean I will agree t9 people cherry picking games as I beleive for one it helps to gives the devs the above false stats when only the best killers will decide not to dodge.

    Think about it they added the option to play with friends, the dodging is being complained about constantly and they are now changing matchmaking due to it being buggy while coincidently also removing a way to tell if the lobby has swf, I personally think that tells you how they perceive dodging.

    Given how you continued to: 1. express concern for people who have to wait for a lobby, but refused to have the same empathy for people being forced into unbalanced games, despite the fact that I drew the correlation multiple, multiple times over the last few posts, 2. started using phrases like "could also be an intended feature" to use speculations as a part of your argument, 3. call camping "game breaking," 4. state things like, "the devs frequently change their mind" two posts ago, but turn around and say, "it is and always will be part if the game, nothing will ever change that" just to fit your current argument, and 5. have a long sentence about the "impossibility" of balancing SWF and solo when all it would take is creating a new mode for it,

    I'm concluding that you have absolutely no interest in holding a conversation, listening to what I am saying, or sharing an interest about balancing the game for the better. Good luck in your life.

    And every point you make might be true but it doesn't change the fact that nobody is cheating on here and we're all playing fair to what's offered to us , we just want to play the game that's all 
  • Well the forums are always fun so when the change occurs and the queues go up please keep that same energy. Do not make posts asking for a fix to the queue times as I have a long memory and will be here to point out your "they don't matter attitude".

    Oh well the people doing what you do don't matter and won't be playing anyway remember you saying that with that long memory? Why do you even give a ######### ? They aren't gonna remove swf , lobby dodging time bans ARE something being discussed when servers come out but no its not guaranteed but if someone would quit playing over that one little thing then let the , it's no different when those potatoe ass survivors quit playing after the exhaustion nerf
  • @Tsulan said:

    @OrionsFury4789 said:
    Tsulan said:

    @SIlentCetra said:

     @Broosmeister said:
    

    Killers want easy games because they aren't that good in the game.

    Survs want easy games because most of them are ######### at the game.> @Tsulan said:

    Aven_Fallen said:

    @Tsulan said:

    Survivors lobby dodged in order to play with their friends until the devs introduced SWF.

    That was totally normal and acceptable. 

    Killers lobby dodge in order to avoid playing against SWF? "This needs to be addressed asap! They need to be punished!!!"

    Hypocrisy at its finest. 

    You cannot do a Multiplayer Onlinegame without expecting that Friends want to play together. And I am not talking about 4 Man SWFs who want to bully Killers, there are way more normal SWFs (2,3 and 4 Man) who play completely normally.

    But it is surely not intended that Killers can decide that they want the easy games.

    btw. every Killer that does not dodge has my respect. Those are either the Killers that really play fair and for fun or the really good Killers.

    But survivors can decide to have easy games by playing in a way the game was never intended to? Or by last second switching?

    I never lobby dodge, not because I am good, and certainly not because I enjoy going up against 4 stacks; but because I know i will never BECOME a good killer by dodging the harder games like a little #########. What am I rewarded with?
    
    "GG EZ ahahahaha"
    
    -___-
    

    Still, I won't give in to these pricks by becoming them.

    SWF complain about dodging killers. But they disconnect the moment they can´t bully a killer.

    Yea maybe those potatoes you're facing with that rank 15 you're rocking , that crap rarely happens at rank 1 , you're against people who literally don't care at that stage

    Yeah, they really look like rank 15 potatoes...
    Fully decked death squad that tried to bully low rank killers.
    Would you prefer some rank 1 screenshots?
    How about perk- and addon-less Freddy?

    That level of ownage, both to the people in game and to the person that tried to dismiss your point, was completely uncalled for and a flagrant foul. Frankly it was abusive. You should almost feel bad.

    He didn't own anything he was talking about survivors DC and then I said it doesn't happen much at rank one only against those potatoes at rank 15 because they don't care and he posted that screenshot of no survivors DC , your'e delusional
  • PiiFree said:

    Lobby dodging is the result of many bad experiences.

    You should've thought about such consequences before you bullied those poor Killers.

    Dude that's bullshit , not everyone bullies the killer and some people on here view escaping as toxic or just getting away from them in chases as bullying,  THEY are the real problem here because those same people go and play survivor and DC all damn day because they don't care, I'm sure you don't sit there and dodge lobbies for upwards of 5 or 6 times in a row all because of an item right ? I've heard you say it's ridiculous yourself on here , now I'm not denying that they may have had bad experiences in the past but if someone wants to play this game they should play as intended and not by some made up rules they have , and I'm pointing that one at both sides. 
  • Nikkiwhat said:
    scorpio said:

    @OrionsFury4789 said:
    Nikkiwhat said:


    OrionsFury4789 said:


    Blueberry said:

    @DocOctober said:

    Fix the causes of lobby dodging first.

    This ^

    +1

    How about we fix the disease instead of the symptoms. The disease is SWF and the games complete imbalance. That is why people get dodged.

    So you dodge games because you don't like intended items being brought in or intended features to be used , but yet you'll cherry pick some noob lobby to roll stomp with UR add ons and a ebony mori and that's fair to you right? The bias is unreal, nobody is [BAD WORD] cheating were playing by the rules like everyone else , if you don't like to play against these things you might as well play something else because 75 percent of the player base is SWF we just need to give you people survivor bots and let you set them injured or whatever from the start that you want so you can feel better, but God knows we would start seeing "Nerf bots" or "one got the hatch!" Posts and then the world would [BAD WORD] explode

    Found the entitled one!  Everyone has a right to dip out of a lobby sweetheart, may want to dump some of that salt out, not good for your health.  

    Move on to the next game, Lobby Dodging isn't even remotely as common as you all bemoaning about it.  Players DCing during a match now, now that's an issue to actually discuss

    pats head  you'll live

    No it's total horseshit to have to wait 2 hours for a game it happens every night toe on ps4 don't tell me it's not common you know nothing and you're the entitled one you just are too if ignorant to see it , you think you're entitled to make everyone wait just because you don't think you should have to play a match with any challenge I'll laugh my ass off when they get servers and start time bans on you clowns and you're on here crying again 

    Yes, because banning killers from loading into lobbies will do a LOT to get you into a lobby quicker... oh wait.

    Oh wait! Actually it will dude because we can get people who actually want to play the damn game instead of dodging like they're sackless, now we'll be able to find people who want to play FIRST and not have to get dodged multiple times and sometimes getting the same dude multiple times in a row and dodged, you can tell by holding the  PlayStation button and going to dead by daylight and then currently playing with and see who's lobby your in,  the problem with that is killers are using that to avoid survivors who have a high achievement count  so you literally can get dodged with nothing going in
    " like they're sackless"

    What a very typical male thing to say *rolls eyes* Not everyone who plays has a sack sweetheart, but please flex that machismo more here, 💋 


    Ok lol so maybe that's not the correct term I should use but oh well you get the point , you're just trolling instead of staying on topic anyway
  • scorpio said:

    @OrionsFury4789 said:
    Nikkiwhat said:


    OrionsFury4789 said:


    Blueberry said:

    @DocOctober said:

    Fix the causes of lobby dodging first.

    This ^

    +1

    How about we fix the disease instead of the symptoms. The disease is SWF and the games complete imbalance. That is why people get dodged.

    So you dodge games because you don't like intended items being brought in or intended features to be used , but yet you'll cherry pick some noob lobby to roll stomp with UR add ons and a ebony mori and that's fair to you right? The bias is unreal, nobody is [BAD WORD] cheating were playing by the rules like everyone else , if you don't like to play against these things you might as well play something else because 75 percent of the player base is SWF we just need to give you people survivor bots and let you set them injured or whatever from the start that you want so you can feel better, but God knows we would start seeing "Nerf bots" or "one got the hatch!" Posts and then the world would [BAD WORD] explode

    Found the entitled one!  Everyone has a right to dip out of a lobby sweetheart, may want to dump some of that salt out, not good for your health.  

    Move on to the next game, Lobby Dodging isn't even remotely as common as you all bemoaning about it.  Players DCing during a match now, now that's an issue to actually discuss

    pats head  you'll live

    No it's total horseshit to have to wait 2 hours for a game it happens every night toe on ps4 don't tell me it's not common you know nothing and you're the entitled one you just are too if ignorant to see it , you think you're entitled to make everyone wait just because you don't think you should have to play a match with any challenge I'll laugh my ass off when they get servers and start time bans on you clowns and you're on here crying again 

    Yes, because banning killers from loading into lobbies will do a LOT to get you into a lobby quicker... oh wait.

    Oh wait! Actually it will dude because we can get people who actually want to play the damn game instead of dodging like they're sackless, now we'll be able to find people who want to play FIRST and not have to get dodged multiple times and sometimes getting the same dude multiple times in a row and dodged, you can tell by holding the  PlayStation button and going to dead by daylight and then currently playing with and see who's lobby your in,  the problem with that is killers are using that to avoid survivors who have a high achievement count  so you literally can get dodged with nothing going in
  • It's just a hypothetical question: If you could not dodge lobbies anymore (except for bad ping), would you still play killer?

    This thread is NOT for discussing why killers are lobby dodging or whether lobby dodging is bad etc...
    Please stick to the topic and stay polite, it's a simple survey. :)

    I would absolutely still play, I can equip something OP just as easy as one of them could , I feel like if I don't play with what's intended to be there I'll never get better so I never dodge. 
  • Tsulan said:

    @OrionsFury4789 said:
    Tsulan said:

    @SIlentCetra said:

     @Broosmeister said:
    

    Killers want easy games because they aren't that good in the game.

    Survs want easy games because most of them are ######### at the game.> @Tsulan said:

    Aven_Fallen said:

    @Tsulan said:

    Survivors lobby dodged in order to play with their friends until the devs introduced SWF.

    That was totally normal and acceptable. 

    Killers lobby dodge in order to avoid playing against SWF? "This needs to be addressed asap! They need to be punished!!!"

    Hypocrisy at its finest. 

    You cannot do a Multiplayer Onlinegame without expecting that Friends want to play together. And I am not talking about 4 Man SWFs who want to bully Killers, there are way more normal SWFs (2,3 and 4 Man) who play completely normally.

    But it is surely not intended that Killers can decide that they want the easy games.

    btw. every Killer that does not dodge has my respect. Those are either the Killers that really play fair and for fun or the really good Killers.

    But survivors can decide to have easy games by playing in a way the game was never intended to? Or by last second switching?

    I never lobby dodge, not because I am good, and certainly not because I enjoy going up against 4 stacks; but because I know i will never BECOME a good killer by dodging the harder games like a little #########. What am I rewarded with?
    
    "GG EZ ahahahaha"
    
    -___-
    

    Still, I won't give in to these pricks by becoming them.

    SWF complain about dodging killers. But they disconnect the moment they can´t bully a killer.

    Yea maybe those potatoes you're facing with that rank 15 you're rocking , that crap rarely happens at rank 1 , you're against people who literally don't care at that stage

    Yeah, they really look like rank 15 potatoes...
    Fully decked death squad that tried to bully low rank killers.
    Would you prefer some rank 1 screenshots?
    How about perk- and addon-less Freddy?

    Your experience on PC may be different from mine on PS4 but that never happens it's extremely rare to have a 4 man DC at rank 1 , at the reset I see it all the time but not once I rank up 
  • Okapi said:

    @OrionsFury4789 said:
    Let me guess , surviving is disgusting too right lol ridiculous

    Surviving isn't disgusting but playing in a way that makes the game unbalanced and not fun for the killer (SWF with voice coms) while pretending that's not what your doing is disgusting.

    No  , swf is in the game as an option and you have to get over that it's not cheating or anything you might want to say it is , the only way for a survivor to be toxic is through messages anything in game they're doing to be toxic means they aren't doing gens and if you aren't capitalizing on that its on YOU , and I play killer just as much as survivor I never have these sort of issues , if I get beat i can always see where I was at fault and not blame voice comms , sure it's annoying at times but if I play smart I'm guaranteed a 2 or 3k walking out of the match, any less means you weren't doing your job properly.
  • Tsulan said:

    @SIlentCetra said:

    @Broosmeister said:
    Killers want easy games because they aren't that good in the game.

    Survs want easy games because most of them are ######### at the game.> @Tsulan said:

    Aven_Fallen said:

    @Tsulan said:

    Survivors lobby dodged in order to play with their friends until the devs introduced SWF.

    That was totally normal and acceptable. 

    Killers lobby dodge in order to avoid playing against SWF? "This needs to be addressed asap! They need to be punished!!!"

    Hypocrisy at its finest. 

    You cannot do a Multiplayer Onlinegame without expecting that Friends want to play together. And I am not talking about 4 Man SWFs who want to bully Killers, there are way more normal SWFs (2,3 and 4 Man) who play completely normally.

    But it is surely not intended that Killers can decide that they want the easy games.

    btw. every Killer that does not dodge has my respect. Those are either the Killers that really play fair and for fun or the really good Killers.

    But survivors can decide to have easy games by playing in a way the game was never intended to? Or by last second switching?

    I never lobby dodge, not because I am good, and certainly not because I enjoy going up against 4 stacks; but because I know i will never BECOME a good killer by dodging the harder games like a little #########. What am I rewarded with?

    "GG EZ ahahahaha"

    -___-

    Still, I won't give in to these pricks by becoming them.

    SWF complain about dodging killers. But they disconnect the moment they can´t bully a killer.

    Yea maybe those potatoes you're facing with that rank 15 you're rocking , that crap rarely happens at rank 1 , you're against people who literally don't care at that stage
  • Nikkiwhat said:
    Blueberry said:

    @DocOctober said:
    Fix the causes of lobby dodging first.

    This ^
    +1

    How about we fix the disease instead of the symptoms. The disease is SWF and the games complete imbalance. That is why people get dodged.

    So you dodge games because you don't like intended items being brought in or intended features to be used , but yet you'll cherry pick some noob lobby to roll stomp with UR add ons and a ebony mori and that's fair to you right? The bias is unreal, nobody is [BAD WORD] cheating were playing by the rules like everyone else , if you don't like to play against these things you might as well play something else because 75 percent of the player base is SWF we just need to give you people survivor bots and let you set them injured or whatever from the start that you want so you can feel better, but God knows we would start seeing "Nerf bots" or "one got the hatch!" Posts and then the world would [BAD WORD] explode
    Found the entitled one!  Everyone has a right to dip out of a lobby sweetheart, may want to dump some of that salt out, not good for your health.  

    Move on to the next game, Lobby Dodging isn't even remotely as common as you all bemoaning about it.  Players DCing during a match now, now that's an issue to actually discuss

    *pats head*  you'll live
    No it's total horseshit to have to wait 2 hours for a game it happens every night toe on ps4 don't tell me it's not common you know nothing and you're the entitled one you just are too if ignorant to see it , you think you're entitled to make everyone wait just because you don't think you should have to play a match with any challenge I'll laugh my ass off when they get servers and start time bans on you clowns and you're on here crying again 
  • Mister_xD said:

    flashlights are disgusting
    coordinated swf groups are disgusting
    multiple insta heals are disgusting
    decisive strike is disgusting
    genrush is disgusting (multiple toolboxes)

    want me to continue?

    Let me guess , surviving is disgusting too right lol ridiculous
  • Nikkiwhat said:
    Nikkiwhat said:
    Dodging at all is just silly. Since killer perks have been hidden I'd like them to not show items held by survivors in the lobby. 
    Oh sod off.

    And people wonder why the stereotype of entitled Survivors still sticks.  


    Says the stereotypical salty killer main
    And where am I salty? ;o I'm not the one asking to hide items to cheese the game out
    Yeah you're just the salty one dodging over it LMAO nothings more salty than someone dodging intended game functions , when you have to run away to your safe space from something that's intended but you call someone else salty?
  • Blueberry said:

    @DocOctober said:
    Fix the causes of lobby dodging first.

    This ^
    +1

    How about we fix the disease instead of the symptoms. The disease is SWF and the games complete imbalance. That is why people get dodged.

    So you dodge games because you don't like intended items being brought in or intended features to be used , but yet you'll cherry pick some noob lobby to roll stomp with UR add ons and a ebony mori and that's fair to you right? The bias is unreal, nobody is ######### cheating were playing by the rules like everyone else , if you don't like to play against these things you might as well play something else because 75 percent of the player base is SWF we just need to give you people survivor bots and let you set them injured or whatever from the start that you want so you can feel better, but God knows we would start seeing "Nerf bots" or "one got the hatch!" Posts and then the world would ######### explode
  • My internet keeps cutting out everytime I get into a match. This happened all day yesterday and it happened again today.....I didn't have this problem before. 
    How old is your router? Are you hard wired in?
  • misterti said:
    The pc/console communities are incomparable, it's a good thing they don't mix, cause console players probably wouldn't stand a chance. Still imo, it runs perfectly on console
    What're you smoking? Man you need to pass that around if that's what you believe
  • @DarkGGhost said:
    The truth is most survivors don't like a killer because it's way harder and demand so many skills ( main killer)

    It's harder because it's unbalanced. I'd like to know what exactly makes people hesitate to play more killer matches. Perhaps they don't want to deal with DS, I don't know, that's why I am asking.

    Maybe there are also people who don't need any game mechanics to change and who would be fine with just more bloodpoints.

    I don't necessarily feel like it's harder per say but I think it's more of a frustration because as the killer you need to be more aware of time and what's happening during the match, it takes more muscle memory and brains to play killer because you have to know what the survivor is thinking in a chase without mind gaming yourself in the process and allowing more time for gens, but once you get used to playing killer and controlling your FOV properly then it's greatly rewarding and it's like riding a bike.

    I think the people who don't like to play killer , don't like it simply because they're not used to it and they may have tried it before and ran into deranked players or just didn't like that it was a learning process and they just throw it down and go off of how easily they are killed when they cry "killers are OP"
  • Even though I call myself a survivor main the past two months I've played twice as much killer than I have survivor due to que times being what they are on console
  • What?! I regularly use that perk it's working perfect for me, what platform are you on?
  • Honestly I think the key shouldn't be an item you get from the bloodweb and more like you have to find four broken key parts randomly placed to have a key , whichever survivor were to find the last part would be the one who gets the key  you wouldn't have to find them all yourself to keep from people fighting eachother for parts and if that survivor dies he drops it like a normal item for others to use once it's crafted , it would also slow the game down if a team decided to use that as a strategy while earning the extra BP for the escape instead of it feeling like a free escape 
  • I really like the idea of a vault speed increase but I think that using leader might make it op a little too much , instead what if we gave a extra percentage of vault speed to lithe that would be usable even when exhausted kind of like how balanced landing reduces stagger even when exhausted , so that way it will be more in line with a similar perk that would make sense to allow it
  • @OrionsFury4789 said:
    Camping is a legit strategy and all, but with some of the responses I'm reading on here it's no wonder why some of you complain about having toxic survivors, you cant have the attitude some of these people have and expect the other role not to be toxic back and that goes for both sides , survivors can't be super toxic and expect the killer to not to tunnel you out of the game or go out of the way to make the game suck for you.

    IKR, I'll play with a frusterating SWF group and I eventually decide to camp and tunnel them because of how annoying they decided to be, and I end up getting messages telling me how unfun I am and how I was playing unfair, hypocrites annoy me

    I get those whenever I have hook rushers, I run MYC on billy or spirit so sometimes once people realize I'm running that, instead of playing stealthy like they should it turns into a farm fest with people rushing the hook to get the save right in front of me and not get exposed but then I'm a camping tunneling POS even though I didn't have a chance to take three steps from the hook 
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