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@Another_LegionMain said:
Last I checked, no characters have their preferences stated (or they are loosely said). I guess its headcannons to decide that.
You should check again. Start with the Legion.
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If he were, it'd be in the lore. It's not, so he's not.
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@WeenieDog said:
I don't know what is up with it.
When I was looking up pig to find out how long it took for crouch to get rid of TR, it said it fades at .66 m/s, which cannot be right. otherwise it would take ~ 48 seconds for it to be gone. But on the spanish page it says it fades out over 4 seconds.
I contacted my admin friend upon reading your comment. That's being fixed now.
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@Fuzzels said:
Yeah in his lore it states that hes aware of being watched by an audience, and thats actually his reasoning for willingly joining the entitys realm. He chose to join with the promise of an everlasting audience to always be giving him attention.
DbD has gone full meta.
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@venom12784 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1991328#Comment_1991328
Which characters?
Nurse (released just 2 months after DbD was launched), David, Felix, Frank, Julie.
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@SaintDorks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1991417#Comment_1991417
Please for all things holy do not bring animals into this..Cause, well Otters jerk off with fishheads and other weird crap in the animal kingdom. Or the army of birds who decides burning half a nation down for a snack was smart. That and well, that can be flipped in a way that is...Well, not very wholesome 100.
It kind of is promotion when you wave a flag around and scream It at the top of your lungs tbh. It really depends, like summoning a LGBT character right in pride month is a tad on the nose. It feels more like pandering by that point. Even then,out side of chick flicks most people don't care about sexuality as much as anymore. I would also argue If you have even a straight cupple going "we straight btw" and smacking lips every 10 mins It would drive people up the walls..But,then again Twilight and romance novels are a thing. But, once again DBD is a horror game about 4 people with lightsticks harassing some super natural power creature as the godlike monster who put them there laughs and throws wood everywhere.
Please for all things holy do not bring animals into this..Cause, well Otters jerk off with fishheads and other weird crap in the animal kingdom. Or the army of birds who decides burning half a nation down for a snack was smart. That and well, that can be flipped in a way that is...Well, not very wholesome 100.
I'm not the one who brought up "natural", though. Either nature is relevant, or it isn't. If it is, then homophobia is unnatural. If it's not, then "natural" can't be used as an argument. That's my point.
It kind of is promotion when you wave a flag around and scream It at the top of your lungs tbh.
Show me someone doing that on this forum or the game, please.
It really depends, like summoning a LGBT character right in pride month is a tad on the nose. It feels more like pandering by that point.
Like Christmas decorations in December is pandering?
Even then,out side of chick flicks most people don't care about sexuality as much as anymore.
The fact that there's this much (vocal) pushback every single time an LGBT character is even considered tells me otherwise.
I would also argue If you have even a straight cupple going "we straight btw" and smacking lips every 10 mins It would drive people up the walls.
Frank and Julie's lore didn't, though.
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@N0IDEA said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1992045#Comment_1992045
Sexual desire and will to be in a long term or emotional relationship are two different things, but I guess this is not the right place to discuss it
Yes, but you said heterosexual and asexual, not heteroromantic or aromantic.
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@CluelessWanderer said:
I'm new to the forums. Is there always a zillion threads on "LGBTQ"?
And once again as a gay person, just throwing my voice in to say I couldn't care less if DBD "adds a LGBTQ character". It seems like this is brought up daily, in multiple threads. It's not homophobic, or bigoted to find it irrelevant for a game like this.
Please don't judge us all by the loudest on the internet.
In other games, sure it would be nice to see a gay character sometimes so long as it's done in a natural, organic, non-obnoxious way. But idk, I'm getting concerned more and more that the constant bitching will actually make people more resistant to the addition of non-heterosexual characters in the future.
I'm new to the forums. Is there always a zillion threads on "LGBTQ"?
Nope. It happens from time to time whenever the subject is brought up. It started when the devs made an announcement that they weren't going to purposefully exclude LGBT lore any more.
And once again as a gay person, just throwing my voice in to say I couldn't care less if DBD "adds a LGBTQ character". It seems like this is brought up daily, in multiple threads. It's not homophobic, or bigoted to find it irrelevant for a game like this.
Thing is, there are already heterosexual characters, but people are only opposing LGBT characters. What do you think the difference is?
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@Zaytex said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1992051#Comment_1992051
Right, I should work on greater evils but you're asking for LGBTQ people to be poorly represented in a game that has less than 50k active players.
Right
You're the one worrying about "the children", so it makes more sense to work on the greater evils. I'm just advocating for my LGBT brothers, sisters, and others who play this game and want representation, so my scope is much smaller than yours.
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@Zaytex said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1992041#Comment_1992041
"Realism isn't a factor here"
I don't know how to say it ANYMORE clearer but proper representation is all about REALISTIC portrayals of someone's experience.
You're asking for representation, when you have not the faintest clue what it actually entails.
You were talking about realism in demographics, but now you're trying to change the subject to realism in personal experience. Which is it? Please make up your mind, are you complaining about the realism in demographics by having multiple LGBT people in the game, or the realistic portrayal of their experiences?
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@Zaytex said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1992032#Comment_1992032
1) And the treatment the heterosexual characters get isn't even decent, it's terrible. Why do you want awful representation? You scream representation, but there's nothing shared between you and characters in a supernatural death getting murdered over and over, with exception to maybe one part of them, which you're making such a big fuss about when really, sexuality shouldn't be fussed about in 2021.
2) "Equal treatment" still doesn't mean good treatment. The heterosexuals weren't done good, neither will the gays or niche genders the developers have no clue about.
3) it doesn't matter, its still the company as a whole that makes decisions, and this exemplifies the issue of them not fixing core issues and adding stuff that barely no one asked for.
- Nobody's screaming here, calm down. Yes, we all know the treatment heterosexual characters get during the trials. We're talking about no longer purposefully excluding LGBT lore (confirmed by the developers that they were excluding it).
- See above.
- So should they get the lore people to work on coding the game? Or can we acknowledge the fact that having writers work on writing doesn't stop programmers from working on programming?
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@Zaytex said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1991246#Comment_1991246
I agree with kids not playing toxic or adult like games, but neither should they be taught about sexuality, both straight and anything non-straight.
You should start with the greater evils, then: TV and ads. Get them to drop all sexual content, then we can work on DbD.
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@N0IDEA said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1992006#Comment_1992006
U do, u can't be heterossexual and Arromantic, but u can be assexual and be in a romantic relationship. It just doesn't include sex (or kisses and huges if u take it as sexual)
You're getting two concepts mixed up here: relationship status and sexual orientation. Just like gay men and lesbian women can get opposite-sex partners to "fit in", they don't become heterosexual just because they did so. See my example above.
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@Zaytex said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1992010#Comment_1992010
"Characters"
That right there is also a problem. A lot of people, not saying you in particular, are wanting a character for every sexuality or niche gender in existence.
That's not realism at all. When do you see the entire LGBTQ spectrum in any area of life outside pride events?
That's not realism at all. When do you see the entire LGBTQ spectrum in any area of life outside pride events?
You do realize the game is about an evil spider goddess that takes people from various realities (not just our own) to feast on their souls, yes? "Realism" is not a factor here. Even if it were, the fact that She can take people from any reality automatically throws that out the window, unless you have data on demographics from alternate realities.
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@Mooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1992006#Comment_1992006
There are asexual people living in heterosexual (or other sexual) relationships though.
Which is not the same thing as being heterosexual (or other). I'm in a homosexual relationship, but I'm still bisexual.
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@Zaytex said:
Since three of you replied and I'm on mobile, take this as a shared reply.
The representation for even the straight characters in this game isn't good or at the level where it should be. Heterosexuality is mentioned, but there's no representation of the positive virtues that come along with it.
Now if heterosexuality doesn't have that, what makes you think other sexualities and niche genders will get it?
And you keep forgetting the fact that this is a game about perpetual pain, murder and death. I'm sure it'll look good to outsiders hearing that an ancient evil deity, chose an oppressed LGBTQ individual and then makes them even more oppressed.
Plus the developers have already confirmed at least one character in this game is LGBTQ, yet you still want more.
Please focus on the problems with the game instead of wanting representation when it's not even needed.
Now if heterosexuality doesn't have that, what makes you think other sexualities and niche genders will get it?
Did anyone ask for that? Because I don't see it. What I see is people asking for the same treatment that heterosexuality already got.
Plus the developers have already confirmed at least one character in this game is LGBTQ, yet you still want more.
People want equal treatment between heterosexual relationships and non-heterosexual relationships, yes. Saying "oh, someone's LGBT" is not what happened with heterosexuals.
Please focus on the problems with the game instead of wanting representation when it's not even needed.
The people in charge of lore are not the ones who work on the balance of the game. Furthermore, just because you don't think representation is important doesn't mean it's irrelevant to everyone.
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@shiffpup2 said:
This is Dead By Daylight. The sexuality of the characters in this game have nothing to do with this game. You want a bisexual character? Cool! How about a homosexual Killer? Neat! But representation should not be the focus (not saying it is here), fixing the broken mess of this game that we enjoy is.
I look forward to playing as this new Killer. Looks fun.
We're in agreement, then. Bring on the LGBT characters.
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@N0IDEA said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1991153#Comment_1991153
Heteressexuais can be LGBT too,lol[
They can be trans,assexual, non-binary and etc,etc
You can't be a heterosexual asexual, those are mutually exclusive concepts.
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@Zaytex said:
Oh look another daily thread demanding for LGBTQ representation in a game that has no place for it.
Please stop; you're doing more harm than good.
It's not demanding, it's explaining why it matters. As for DbD supposedly having "no place for it", the devs disagree with you.
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@BioX said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1991601#Comment_1991601
Yeah ok, if you are going to be that simple about it then why even reply...
Is the literal language the killer speaks "simple"? What did you expect, exactly?
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@Loki_by_Daylight said:
I think the way Apex Legends has done LGBT+ characters is really well done. Bloodhound simply uses they/them pronouns in their bio and in Gibraltar's bio it mentions him stealing a bike with his boyfriend. As a member of the LGBT+ community that's all I personally want, just a little nod and nothing to overt. I just want normal LGBT+ people in my games. If that's to 'political' for you, to read one line of text about a male character's boyfriend, you have much bigger issues that may need addressing.
That's how the devs will do it, since that's how they did it for heterosexual characters as well. It's also what people are asking for.
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@MadLordJack said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1991663#Comment_1991663
Wait, did you just call out Mass Effect, the franchise that's so progressive it let you have a homosexual relationship in 2007 and made zero deal about it?
No, but I think you just proved their point.
See, "politics" is just a code word for "minorities" (most often LGBT). Mass Effect has a ######### ton of politics in it, from your own character's promotion being a political maneuver to the literal political council you answer to and work for. You make political choices all the time. The game is filled to the brim with politics and people love it.
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@Caleegi said:
If LGBTQ+ characters get added then fine, i am not homophobic and i believe people should date / be whoever they want. However, i just feel like this is adding politics into a game that we all love. For example, its already shown how many homophobic people there are and this is gonna create a divide. The devs have already said they want to include it just don't want to rush. Also, a lot of lore for most characters dont say if they are gay or not, use your imagination.
I just don't want this game to become damn politics, i hear enough about it irl.
The existence of LGBT people is not political. Adding politics would be something wholly different. As for the homophobes, why should the devs kowtow to them?
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@BioX said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1991403#Comment_1991403
ok care to share some of the knowledge that point towards it clearly not be japanese instead?
because everything from the physical design, to the (voice) acting screams anime japan.
Bright neon backgrounds reminiscent of the more "modern" areas in Seoul, the obvious K-Pop references, and the fact that the killer literally speaks Korean.
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@aurum_exe said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1991417#Comment_1991417
You didn't even understood my words, and you didn't even read that i'm BI, why should i even try to make you understand. When i said "being sexually oriented is very normal" i was talking about every kind of "sexual orientation" (pedophilia trashcans apart), not just straights, but all this propaganda is making the things worst. All i see is more hate being generated by it and it's normal, i can't judge it. Talking about human psychology, the more you abuse about a topic, politically speaking, the more you generate people who think against. LGBTQ+ movement will build up more hate. No doubt it. For me, this is simply not the way.
The fact that you're bi is not relevant. I'm bi too.
Funny, the same things were said about women's rights, black rights, and more. Did those movements just stop because certain people were complaining? No.
If you (this is a generic "you", I don't mean you specifically) support equal treatment, then you can't blame that equal treatment for your hatred.
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1991429#Comment_1991429
no offence but what the hell are you talking about?
They mean "don't add LGBT people to this game, it's forced, go make your own game". At least that's what I got from their comment.
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@Rescultir said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1991416#Comment_1991416
That's not it either, there was one that talked about kids making irrational decisions that lead to suicide, I can not seem to find it in my history...
I'm just wondering why it's in your history to begin with. Besides, it's well known that bullying, etc., is what leads kids to suicide.
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@Rescultir said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1991405#Comment_1991405
My bad I linked the wrong one, this one is more up-to-date.
https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/142/4/e20174218
Research clearly reveals that minority identities are not the cause of health disparities.
You're trying to make a link between being trans and higher suicide rates, but the link is between discrimination and higher suicide rates. This is well known.
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@aurum_exe said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1991372#Comment_1991372
"LGBT" it's like a mark we put on ourselves while we should first understand that "hate" or "not hate", behing sexually oriented is very natural. Period. I'm BI, and my thinking is not affected by hatred, and i don't wanna judge who hate me because of what i do in my bed. It's their problem, not mine. All this promotion is a giant "marketing" operation to state and be "proud" about our "differentiation" from the rest of the specie. We are not. Another period.
"LGBT" it's like a mark we put on ourselves while we should first understand that "hate" or "not hate", behing sexually oriented is very natural.
No, it's not. Non-heterosexuality exists in a ######### ton of species. Homophobia only exists in one. If nature isn't natural, then what is?
All this promotion is a giant "marketing" operation to state and be "proud" our "differentiation" from the rest of the specie. We are not. Another period.
There's no "promotion", there's just equal treatment. Heterosexuals get featured in media all the time and nobody bats an eye. Why are you making a big deal out of non-heterosexuals being featured in media as well? If we're no different, then it shouldn't matter to you, right?
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@kor said:
ALL Human = "H. sapiens."
This is actually scientifically written as a scientific name. But some people seem to deny the scientific name altogether, so it's quite awkward.
"All human beings are scientifically named Animalia/Chordata/Mammalia/Primates/Hominidae/Homo/H. sapiens."
😊
Yes, because it's definitely being used in that sense.
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@Rescultir said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1991400#Comment_1991400
Nope, I am only showing you that there will only be more problems than solutions. I am still sticking to my original statement and showing you how it would only work against you.
So far you've shown me that trans people need acceptance and respect, and that people have wanted to shut down this game since it was made (directly or indirectly). I don't see your point, TBH.
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Korean. It's quite obvious, if you know the culture.
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@Rescultir said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1991377#Comment_1991377
Good luck, you're also going to have to deal with the people that think games are the reason their kid is violent.
And? Those are going to be here regardless and have been here for years. Are you saying we should shut down the game altogether?
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@Rescultir said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1991350#Comment_1991350
Because the data shows it as being problematic if you're not making the right choices.
https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/suicidality-transgender-adults/
Yes, general discrimination leads people to feel like ######### and want to kill themselves. That's why we need acceptance.
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@Rescultir said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1991299#Comment_1991299
Yea so you see the problem here then? The game is rated M for mature but parents still let their kids play BUT the parents won't put that blame on themselves, they'll point it at the game and the devs, and then the media will jump on it like they always do. This has also been going on for years to other games.
Yes I know that's not how it works, calm down I am only saying that showing underdeveloped kids that kind of stuff can turn them in a direction they might not want to go. Not so much for Lesbian or Gay but the more extreme stuff and I use the word "extreme" only because you can change/alter your appearance and won't be able to reverse it. It is not intended to be offensive.
I should also mention that by "kid" I mean anyone younger than 15. Maybe 16
Then maybe it's time for someone to stand up to those unreasonable people. Why should we kowtow to cancel culture? Let's add explicitly LGBT relationships and when someone wants to cancel the game because their kids play it, we say "no".
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@Jholla31 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1991343#Comment_1991343
I guess you missed the "B" in LGBTQ. Just because someone is in a relationship with someone of the opposite sex does not mean they are heterosexual.
I'm bisexual, so no, I didn't. However, I also said "explicitly heterosexual relationships". Furthermore, the devs themselves said they'd only added relationships pertaining to heterosexual characters.
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@Jholla31 said:
Tbh, I was kind of under the impression that, at least, Meg, Claudette, Zarina, Nea, Ace, Felix, and maybe even Dwight fell somewhere on the spectrum. My main survivor characters are Ace, Dwight, Claudette, Jake, and Adam, in that order. I am a straight male. The characters' sexuality, or perception thereof, has never played a part in whether I want to play as them or not. The great thing about a video game that doesn't provide backgrounds on characters preferences are that you can make them whatever they want to be. BHVR doesn't need "HEY ALL LGBTQ PEOPLE PLAY THIS CHARACTER BECAUSE THEY ARE JUST LIKE YOU" bs. Just accept the characters for who and what they are.
That argument falls flat when several characters (including Felix, just FYI) have explicitly heterosexual relationships in their lore.
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@Guilty87 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1991299#Comment_1991299
Kids are easily influenced, that's like their thing.
Yes, I was definitely influenced by all the zero LGBT people in my life when I was a kid. That's why I turned out bisexual.
You can't "influence" someone to change sexual orientation.
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@WorstKillerNA said:
But whos to say we dont already have lgbt characters? We have so many characters, why do any of them need to broadcast their sexuality for it to count?
Keep in mind Heterosexuality isnt expressly represented in the game either. It is just the assumption that unless someone broadcasts that they are different, they must be more of the same.
But they can just as easily subvert that expectation and whos to say they wouldnt? Its because it just wouldnt matter what their sexualities are whatever their sexualities happen to actually be.
Keep in mind Heterosexuality isnt expressly represented in the game either. It is just the assumption that unless someone broadcasts that they are different, they must be more of the same.
No, it's the devs' own words and the fact that several characters mention heterosexual relationships in their lore.
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@Phasmamain said:
It’s just as important as having straight characters in the game imo
Indeed. And since straight characters are already in the game...
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@Rescultir said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1991278#Comment_1991278
So I am assuming that you think kids can make decisions for themselves then? It is actually more problematic and we are already seeing it. Violence in video games is not a problem for normal kids, only those that have already had problems in their childhood, and this is proven.
So go complain to the parents, not DbD. This is a game for adults. If the parents are letting their kids play it, that's on them.
PS: Seeing or hearing about LGBT people won't turn your kid LGBT or cause any issues. That's not how it works.
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@immortalls96 said:
What I care about is it being forced and feeling fake..some games get this right , others make it feel like it's forced to appease the minority..and that isn't respectable because it isn't real
How do you tell the difference?
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@Rescultir said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1991268#Comment_1991268
Most of them are unreasonable, so as I have said before... good luck because there will probably only be a small handful that will actually listen to what people say. I also added to that next statement you quoted. "plus we all know that content creators will talk about the LGBTQ so even if they don't read the "lore" they will still find out in some way." is what I edited in afterwards
I dunno, Mooks seems reasonable. He wants to treat LGBT lore the same as non-LGBT lore. What's unreasonable about that?
As for kids, what's wrong with them hearing about normal people? I'd say the exposure to psychopaths and people with violent tendencies (who aren't normal) is more worrisome.
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@Rescultir said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1991246#Comment_1991246
Do you think they're going to listen to you explain it? Good luck with that, they don't listen to much of anything without being offended anyway. Also, violence and toxic people are in almost every game, it's actually worse in Rust which is the big thing on YouTube now so kids are more into that so no I am not worried about that since kids also did the same thing in Fortnite as well, that will not change it has been going on for years and it's up to the parents to control that the same way it is up to the parents to tell them about LGBTQ at an older age and not a game.
Do you think they're going to listen to you explain it? Good luck with that, they don't listen to much of anything without being offended anyway.
That's why I said you ignore the unreasonable ones. You need to read past the first sentence.
Also, violence and toxic people are in almost every game, it's actually worse in Rust which is the big thing on YouTube now so kids are more into that so no I am not worried about that since kids also did the same thing in Fortnite as well, that will not change it has been going on for years and it's up to the parents to control that the same way it is up to the parents to tell them about LGBTQ at an older age and not a game.
So go worry about violence and toxic people, which are actually harmful, instead of worrying about the kids who are going to read all the lore in the game with a fine-toothed comb (yes, all 0 of those kids).
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@Guilty87 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1991194#Comment_1991194
"the trend" is right, its been trendy and profitable to be part of THAT community for awhile now look at main stream television and social media. It succeeds the last community of people that was trendy and profitable.
Yes, boys start dating boys and girls start dating girls (with all that that implies) because of "the trend". Never mind the fact that if they were heterosexual, that would turn them off massively. No, it must be "the trend". There's no other potential explanation for why people without a visible minority status would start to come out more often the more their acceptance grows.
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@Rescultir said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1980475#Comment_1980475
With everything going on in the world right now, I would avoid adding LGBTQ characters to this game. It's not that I don't want an LGBTQ character, you do you that's fine but I know that the other more "caring" LGBTQ people the ones that just look at things for what it is without putting much thought into it will see this game as offensive. I believe there will be too many problems that will occur when adding an LGBTQ character to this game and any other game depending on the style of the game.
I also know that there are some kids that play this game and I STRONGLY believe that they do not need to know about this kind of stuff at a young age from a game. so again, I only see more problems than solutions coming from this.
With everything going on in the world right now, I would avoid adding LGBTQ characters to this game. It's not that I don't want an LGBTQ character, you do you that's fine but I know that the other more "caring" LGBTQ people the ones that just look at things for what it is without putting much thought into it will see this game as offensive. I believe there will be too many problems that will occur when adding an LGBTQ character to this game and any other game depending on the style of the game.
So you explain the context to them and ignore the unreasonable ones who won't listen. Problem solved.
I also know that there are some kids that play this game and I STRONGLY believe that they do not need to know about this kind of stuff at a young age from a game. so again, I only see more problems than solutions coming from this.
As someone who didn't know bisexuality was a thing until his late teens despite having felt attracted toward boys and girls since he was a child, this is BS. Furthermore, if kids are playing the game, I'd be far more worried about their exposure to the violence and toxic people than a line of lore they will never read. I'd also be worried about them for their parents.
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@Ivaldi said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1990139#Comment_1990139
Again that's a DBD issue or an internet issue. It's not a Steam issue.
And how do you explain that my boyfriend, my friend, and me are having the same problem without even being in a game?
It's a Steam issue, not an Internet issue nor a DbD issue.
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@UncleStabby said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1991061#Comment_1991061
It almost seems like heterosexuality is the abnormal thing these days. Way too many people consider themselves LGBT just because that's what's popular. Its frustrating.
Or, y'know, they feel confident in coming out because there's more acceptance now than a few decades ago? But nah, must be "the trend". That's why I felt attracted to boys and girls all the way back when I was a kid, before the Internet was even a thing in my country.
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@Ivaldi said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1990100#Comment_1990100
Steam hasnt gone down for maintenance a few days at a time recently. It goes down once every tuesday night. Hate to break it to you but it might just be your internet.
It's not, unless it's also mine, my boyfriend's, and a friend of mine's.
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Let's not be too hasty, maybe the Entity keeps him warm, we don't know.