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@Orange_Lady said:
@holywhitetrash no I think the pig gets a notification only with a certain add on if you can free yourself from the bear trap or you miss the skillcheck...but back to my post: you can do nothing against it
It's a serious bug, and you should report it in the appropriate section.
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@holywhitetrash said:
@Orange_Lady said:
Hello player of the fog,it has happened to me more often that I have apparently not hit a skillcheck when I have used up my first-aid kit. That's very annoying, because it makes the killer aware of your position. There's no way to hit the skillcheck because it won't show up!
The same thing happens with the pig's bear traps. You free yourself from your trap and in the same animation the sound of an unhit skillcheck comes and thus your position is betrayed.
Can we please do something about this?
Has it ever happened to you?for the pig at least i thought she always got alerted to someone finishing using a box
Only with an add-on, I think. Either that or I've missed the notification every single time.
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This has happened to me as well. Lost level, rank, a ton of stuff.
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Maybe deranking?
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The title of this thread sounds like the name of a masturbation device.
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All of those together would just turn her into the Wraith. What she needs depends on what the devs want to do with her.
Do they want her to be a mindgame Killer who uses (or pretends to use) her power mid-chase to trick Survivors? If so:
- Her ability needs to activate more quickly.
- She needs to move more quickly (115%).
Do they want her to be a stealth Killer who can interrupt Survivors? If so:
- Her power should not have any cues (audio, visual, or otherwise) except a medium-range (40m) audio cue to indicate that she has begun to use it.
Do they want her to be able to cut off Survivors through the use of her power during chases? If so:
- She needs to be able to see Survivors while she's using her power.
Right now I'm not sure what the devs want her to be able to do, but it seems to be some combination of the three. This simply won't do with her current kit.
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Barbecue & Chilli has only been in the shrine once, but there are many other perks that have never been on it even once. Furthermore, it's a Killer perk. There are more Survivor perks than Killer perks, so statistically, it makes sense that Survivor perks will be there more often.
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@RSB said:
The only thing he needs is an instant switch between modes, or way faster charge time for the shock.His switch is fine. The charge time could use a slight buff, maybe, but then you'd have to forgo the increased range I mentioned. I really don't think the Doctor is that bad.
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And unlike the jet engine, if you stand directly in front of it, you'll be fine.
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Slightly longer shock range, with the appropriate changes to his add-ons, maybe, but not much besides that.
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I managed to convince my BF to install the game temporarily (free week FTW!) so we could play on/explore the new map, since the Entity was being a #########. It's ######### beautiful, definitely my new favorite map, with Mother's Dwelling being a close second.
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@apropos said:
Real pro-tip: At the beginning of all matches, run into random corner of the map, circle around some dumb thing a bunch, then run away. Come back in 2 minutes and some survivor will be there. /fist pumpAnother pro-tip: if the hatch is open, stand still in a random location with clear line of sight of your surroundings. The Survivor will think you're at the hatch and come to you (if they don't know where the hatch really is).
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@Tsulan said:
Again, I wasn't sure if It was a bug or a feature. Since you can never know with these devs.
I still remember Howling Grounds patchnotes...Ignore them. Your first reply to them was right on the money.
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@Usui said:
@Orion said:
If you'd read the patch notes the devs posted on this very forum, you'd know this is an issue with the Spirit that they're trying to fix. Perks aren't going to help.
Could have sworn there was a bug section on the forum, Not general discussions. Deliverance is bugged to, did I come here to complain about it? Nope. Also I thought I told you to stop @ me. Ignoring you past this post.
Disable notifications or deal with it. The forum puts it there automatically and I'm not removing it because it bugs the whole "Quote" system.
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If you'd read the patch notes the devs posted on this very forum, you'd know this is an issue with the Spirit that they're trying to fix. Perks aren't going to help.
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@Jack11803 said:
Pretty sure if the killer side as a whole is weak af, but a single killer gets constant unavoidable 3k’s (hatch doing God’s work), then there’s 2 issues. One of which being nurse
I don't think it's unavoidable. The Nurse is almost perfectly designed for several reasons.
- Her power is rewarding to use successfully, while only punishing those who fail to do so. This means the success rate of the Nurse is almost completely dependent on the player's skill.
- Her power is hard to use and hard to master. This means that she has a high skill floor and high skill ceiling, just as the power role in an asymmetrical game should be.
- The result of chases involving the Nurse comes down to skill - if the Nurse player is better than the Survivor, the Nurse wins. If the Survivor is better, the Survivor wins.
Luck, bugs, add-ons, etc. notwithstanding, these three points alone make her the pinnacle of DbD Killer design. She's high-risk high-reward, requires a ton of effort to play, but actually pays off proportionately when you put in that effort.
EDIT: The reason I'm excluding add-ons is because I'm of the opinion that Killers should not be reliant on add-ons to be usable. The case could be made for nerfing her add-ons, but her base kit is fine where it is.
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Why are you trying to turn this game into F13th? That game crashed and burned for a reason.
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They're secret offerings, but the Killers only have a few secret offerings, and most of them are Memento Mori, so they'll know anyway.
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Yeah, it's not that I asked you questions to get a better idea of your position and you refused to answer them because they called your position into question; it's that I'm a "biased Killer main". That's why I get along so well with Tsulan, a Survivor main.
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@Twix said:
I have to start to believe you just enjoy going against what anyone says xD
I haven't seen you agree with anyone ever on the forum's.Well, to each their own opinion, but I personally believe her voice right now is horrendous and tbh, hurts my ears. Way too loud, annoying, and simply bad. I really hope they remove it or change it to something else.
I've agreed with many people, from both sides. I've defended a guy over an SWF exploiting the matchmaking while also chastising him for name and shame.
This is nothing new - dissent makes a bigger splash than agreement, so people will notice the former over the latter. Back on the Steam forum, I've been called both a Survivor main when I proposed and agreed with Killer nerfs, and a Killer main when I proposed and agreed with Survivor nerfs, despite playing both equally. EDIT: I make little effort to correct the misconceptions beyond simply denying them because liars and intellectually dishonest people will just make ######### up over and over again. Correcting their BS bores me. -
@fcc2014 said:
@Orion said:
@fcc2014 said:
@Orion said:
@fcc2014 said:
I will answer you @Orion the point @Michiko was trying to express was they upgraded the killers default base by allowing uncloaking and cloaking faster and they took that power only to become a stronger camper. I saw this several times last night. I am actually excited to see how much a change this is considering they really hurt the Wraith with the Tinkerer rework.So it's what I suspected - Michiko is implying that a Killer using their power is an exploit. No wonder they refused to answer my question.
This is why no one likes you and your condescending. BTW I provided proof of the 3 hooks and you disappeared from that conversation but i guess survivors could just wiggle. @Michiko I'm not worried about professor Orion's bait. He rarely makes any valid points that are not bias. So in the words of a douche that plays this game "LET"S DO THIS"!
I'm OK with "nobody liking me" because I give people ######### when they dodge tough questions that they know prove their point of view is wrong.
I think you should go back to that thread, because I definitely didn't "disappear". As I said there, I had started my stream and only had time for a short reply literally saying that I had observed, for the first time, the thing you were talking about.
Oh so people dodge you and after being unable to give some bs reply with solid proof you will now admit you were wrong. but notice how you didn't admit you were wrong. I find you to be a very interesting specimen.
I did say I was wrong, but whatever. You're just another one of those people. Please pretend to ignore me like Michiko does.
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You see, the difference between me and those people who like to pretend they're ignoring my comments is that I'm capable of admitting when I'm wrong. I can ask honest questions to learn more about a subject and I can answer questions honestly. Those people cannot.
I've had Michiko dodge at least two questions whose answers turned out to be bad for their position at the time, and they tried to frame it like I was the one at fault for giving my view and asking them for clarification. So they can pretend to ignore my comments all they like; people like that make for terrible conversations anyway. -
@fcc2014 said:
@Orion said:
@fcc2014 said:
I will answer you @Orion the point @Michiko was trying to express was they upgraded the killers default base by allowing uncloaking and cloaking faster and they took that power only to become a stronger camper. I saw this several times last night. I am actually excited to see how much a change this is considering they really hurt the Wraith with the Tinkerer rework.So it's what I suspected - Michiko is implying that a Killer using their power is an exploit. No wonder they refused to answer my question.
This is why no one likes you and your condescending. BTW I provided proof of the 3 hooks and you disappeared from that conversation but i guess survivors could just wiggle. @Michiko I'm not worried about professor Orion's bait. He rarely makes any valid points that are not bias. So in the words of a douche that plays this game "LET"S DO THIS"!
I'm OK with "nobody liking me" because I give people ######### when they dodge tough questions that they know prove their point of view is wrong.
I think you should go back to that thread, because I definitely didn't "disappear". As I said there, I had started my stream and only had time for a short reply literally saying that I had observed, for the first time, the thing you were talking about.
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I like her voice now. I'd rather have a different voice than a simple copy/paste from another Killer.
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During the PTB she was using the Nurse's SFX.
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@fcc2014 said:
I will answer you @Orion the point @Michiko was trying to express was they upgraded the killers default base by allowing uncloaking and cloaking faster and they took that power only to become a stronger camper. I saw this several times last night. I am actually excited to see how much a change this is considering they really hurt the Wraith with the Tinkerer rework.So it's what I suspected - Michiko is implying that a Killer using their power is an exploit. No wonder they refused to answer my question.
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@Grey87 said:
Talks the one who is defending a killer that can ignore any thing that survivors can use to not get downed within 10 seconds...
How is he a noob for thinking nurse is unbalanced? People here have no right to have their own opinion because some whiny killer? Ok.
How about you stop "main"ing killer and play survivor sometimes? Go against a pro nurse over and over and then say "nurse is balanced".And before you assume bs, I play both sides pretty much equally, but lately play more killer than survivor. With that said , I hate playing nurse and will never play her unless I have a daily and I can't recycle it. Imo the one who came up with that bs should be fired.
That's all , bye.
Don't bother replying to me I don't have anything more to talk to people like you about.How do you know someone's opinion can be discarded? They try to quiet dissenters.
You are wrong. This is a demonstrable fact.
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@redsopine1 said:
I have tried nurse she's hard as beep to blink withOf course. She's almost completely perfectly designed. High skill floor, high skill ceiling. Good map pressure, good chase potential. The result of a game with the Nurse is always a matter of skill from both sides - whoever has the most skill wins.
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@ZombieGenesis said:
LOL Devs, "New killer is bugged. We won't tell you how but we'll get to it. Eventually. You know, in a month or two maybe. Till we decide these are just how the spirit works now."They said the Survivors are not supposed to hear any of her sound cues while they're in a certain radius from the husk, and they couldn't finish the changes because the terror radius is "very complex".
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It's automatic, kid. If you think Nurse is not fine, you are part of the noobs.
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@Usui said:
Oh but while we're on the topic I do find it hilarious they did this instead of nerfing nurse. Pretty damn hilarious actually.This is a bug, and the Nurse is fine.
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Alright, I'm going to assume it was the first option - they think a Killer using their power is an exploit.
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@Usui said:
@FrenziedRoach said:
@Usui said:
@FrenziedRoach said:
@Usui said:
It will never work because killers will always continue tunneling the person they're already chasing. Another useless survivor perk.Maybe you should ask why they are tunneling.
And no, "they just suck" is not an acceptable answer.
I don't need to ask, they are bad. Just like this perk.
I told you that wasn't an acceptable answer, try again
I don't need to ask them, I know they're bad. Just like this perk.
Such arrogance, much wow.
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Does anyone know what Michiko is talking about, since they refuse to answer a simple question?
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@misteraxel said:
@Wolf74 said:
@misteraxel said:
I play both killer and survivor, so I'm not one-sided. But let's be honest: those things ruin the game and are just a way to make people more toxic. Infinite EW3 Myers with Mori, insta-hatchets with huntress, 4 blink with nurse, getting injured while disarming traps, pinky finger for clown. They all ruin games (one more than another).I like when those ultra-rare add-ons change the killers' playstyle: the Pig has that wallhack while crouched but loses traps while doing so. That's cool. Even the Doctor's one is cool since it can drive you crazy sometimes (not sure about giving random debuffs being a good thing tbh).
And moris. Good old ebony moris. Just tunnel every survivor and they'll fall one by one.
You nerfed BNP because it was way too strong, since a single guy could complete a gen in a few seconds. But why should killing everyone on first hook be good?
Don't know what to say about insta-heals. It's annoying but it didn't cause me any problem as a killer. But I don't care about it. Leave it or remove it.
"I play both….!" and than only complains about killer stuff… yea, totally legit. rolleyes
They nerfed BNPs because survivor objectives are done way faster than killer objectives (aka gen rush).
The goal of the many is way faster and easier to complete than the goal of the single player, that is completely unbalanced crap in an asymetrical game.And I guess you're a killer main. rolleyes. BNP got its well deserved nerf. Insta-heal are not my concern, since I don't use them as a Survivor and they aren't a problem for me as a Killer (apart from that time I was using Freddy thanks to an offering and I had to wait 7 seconds to get guys in the dream world). So yes, only Killers' addons are bothering me since they all include insta-down, insta-death and so on.
It's almost like Killer is meant to be the power role or something.
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Slugging goes too far when there's an exploit on the Killer side that makes it so Survivors stop bleeding on the ground, or when there's an exploit on the Survivor side that makes them impossible to be picked up and makes them stop bleeding on the ground. Until then, it's fine.
In your situation, the Killer decided not to give you the hatch. You're not entitled to it.
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@Michiko said:
They also exploit the s*** out of uncloaking and cloaking to move faster.Excuse me? Are you saying that a Killer using his power is an exploit, or is there an actual exploit I'm not aware of?
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The devs would go bankrupt trying to get the license from The CW. Other than that, as an enormous fan of Supernatural, I like it.
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@PigMainBigBrain said:
@Janick said:
within 24M of her Husk, it is not.So whats the point of her power then outside of 24 meters? Whats the point of making her invisible and unable to see anyone when you can hear her coming from a mile away?
Big one...what is the point of making her invisible if you're just going to have a gigantically loud sound give you away at all times anyway? Whats the point of removing her terror radius during haunt if you're going to make this loud woosh sound when shes coming thats just as loud as a heartbeat... ITS LOUD! You can literally hear her in another room, behind a wall, and while you're in front of a gen. So its so loud you can hear her through a wall and a gen.....why? Why is this even a thing its like you're trolling stealth players.
So she's useless as a stealth killer because she's not really stealth in the slightest NOT EVEN A LITTLE BIT!
She's bad as a high mobility killer cause her power cooldown is too long, she's not billy or nurse or even hag, her mobility is terrible.
She's not a trap type character using non direct methods to deter survivors from objectives like trapper, hag, or even pig.
She's not a projectile thrower like huntress, clown.....
Shes not a 1 hit downer.You lowered her terror radius to 24 meters.....which even if you added distressing that only puts her up to 30 meters terror radius which is lower than most killers.
So please can someone please tell us ######### she is for? What is her niche?
Why does it feel like she's trying to do everything but do everything poorly....
To put this more delicately, the Wraith suffered from the same problems - he was a stealth Killer who was too loud to actually stealth. You guys should've learned from that and realized that stealth Killers need fewer ways to be detected; not more. If they're detected, they lose the one thing that makes them stealth Killers in the first place, so it should be hard to detect them without the use of perks or paying very close attention to your surroundings.
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There is an actual bug on PlayStation's side that causes a version mismatch error that prevents you from finding a lobby.
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@JetJenkins said:
@Orion said:
@JetJenkins said:
@Orion said:
They're not gonna hire voice actors from outside the team.I don't see why not. Seems like the sensible thing to do when your team has no actors left.
As far as I know, this CM had never voiced anyone before. According to your own logic in this comment, she was therefore the best choice.
Yeah, even though she's neither an actress nor from outside the team. Nice try, though.
None of them are trained actors. They became (voice) actors by virtue of voicing characters. Nice try, though.
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@Tsulan said:
@Orion said:
This is how I've been playing and it has worked (low rank, mind you):
1. Find a Survivor.
2. Decloak.
3. Hit the panicking Survivor with the speed boost. If they have Sprint Burst, cloak and chase them a bit to close the distance.
4. Cloak again and chase them.
5. Uncloak and hit the Survivor a second time.You forgot the 20 pallets in between. Because that uncloak slowdown is just enough, so the survivor can get to a pallet. This is complaining on high niveau. So far i like the changes on him.
Ah, right, I do also use the add-on for faster cloaking and decloaking. I forgot about those, as I don't usually use add-ons.
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This is how I've been playing and it has worked (low rank, mind you):
1. Find a Survivor.
2. Decloak.
3. Hit the panicking Survivor with the speed boost. If they have Sprint Burst, cloak and chase them a bit to close the distance.
4. Cloak again and chase them.
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@Janick said:
It's going to be mid-chapter yes.I don't have all the list of fixes in front of me but the Blood appearing while charging and a shorter cooldown for her Power is also planned. I know I just teasing sorry about that but more details will be coming soon, please hold on...Thanks!
Tease away and as much as you want, as long as you guys deliver when the time comes.
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@Janick said:
This effect was also in the PTB.At the moment if you are within 9M of the Spirit (husk), while she use her power, you will not hear the Power sound. So this is actually an improvement over the PTB. In the PBT you could hear it all the time.
We are fixing that in the next patch, her Power sound will not be heard while she stays within her TR (husk) 24M. Over that range, you will hear her. This was the planned version from the beginning, but our sound system with the TR is very complex and it took us more time than expected to make it work properly.
The change is coming soon. thank you!
Thanks for the news, Janick. Are you aiming for a mid-chapter release, or do you think we might get it in a hotfix?
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@Tsulan said:
He needs to move faster when leaving stealth. Right now it's way to slow.
Once they fix that, he'll be top tier.That's why he gets a 1-second speed boost upon a full decloak.
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@Toecutter said:
@Orion said:
How old are you? What's your native language?I
m assuming your reply means you are in your early 80s and you have to visit the doctor mid game so you excuse disconnecting mid game lolNo, some of my family members are old and if they call me with serious health issues, you can bet your ass I'm going to disconnect from whatever game I'm in and go help them.
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How old are you? What's your native language?
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@Toecutter said:
@Orion said:
@Toecutter said:
the latest update seems to be allowing survivors to win no matter how bad they play . if this turns out to be the case i won`t be hosting anymore gamesGiven your attitude toward the existence of "real life", I think I speak for everyone when I say "Good. Don't".
Mr onion when you can post something that makes sense please come back!
Come back when you can say my name.
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...Said the guy who dismissed unforeseen circumstances as a justification for disconnecting and then abandoned the thread when I pointed out just 3 examples of real-life interfering with games.