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@Kwikwitted said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1176379#Comment_1176379
Not every one, and the ones that know her best can dominate, hard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzoGHKqWDTY&t=574s
And as far as your nurse question, thanks for making it patently obvious you've never actually played new Nurse. The reason no one wants to play her is they don't feel like spending 85% of the game staring at the ground playing stun simulator 5000.
Actually, genius THAT is what makes her difficult to play for some people, along with her slow movement speed.
I used to main nurse but stopped playing her cause I myself didn't feel like spending half the match being stunned and looking at the ground.
BUT it is pretty obvious that the vast majority of people are initially turned off by her cause they can't even land blink attacks to begin with (forget the stun). They can't keep up with survivors, use headphones, or aim worth a #########.
So again, it's pretty obvious that players going every game with 0 kills with nurse cause they can't even land 1 hit on survivors all game is because overall she is a killer that demands more skill and effort over the other killers.
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@elvangulley said:
I would remove toolboxes flashlights sabo bt dh ds sc body blocking would also get rid of nurse stuns and look down spirit can see why phased bubba gets a speed boost while sawing and gets no bump at all just plows through
Killer main someone who never played survivor before spotted
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@BigTimeGamer said:
removing bloodlust is unironically good
its just a catch up mechanic used to circumvent looping
Bloodlust is a stupid mechanic that most if not all killers don't need at all. Every killer is perfectly capable of catching up to survivor with their already high asf movement speed.
I'd like to see it get nerfed or completely removed tbh
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Literally everyone plays her.. I see hag so much so I don't know what you're talking about.
Every hag spams like 5 traps on hooked survivors and then proxy camps and tunnels.
Boring killer to play and extremely boring to play against because of the play style that naturally comes with her abilities.
A better and more accurate question would be "why does no one play nurse?" and the answer would be cause she actually requires some amount of skill and effort to play.
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@Mew said:
thats some nice bait
Alright you got me. I was joking about the pepperspray and energy drink.
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* Give deadhard a short 15 second cooldown and does not cause exhaustion effect.
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@Raven014 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1175620#Comment_1175620
Even though you're joking, he is being serious with his offer. His youtube channel has information to help beat a good hag player, as well as how to play hag well.
I know but I'm talking about the BAD hag players that put 5 traps on one place then camp the same exact area.
Sure you can try and genrush instead of saving but it's kind of lame and unfun is my point
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@Seltas0208 said:
Well fear not. There's a resoning behind it.
So a few days ago I was watching an ardetha stream. And the subject of tunneling is brought up.
Now ill paraphrase but I think he said.
"the reason there's so much tunneling is because all the players that were complaining about it are playing killer and doing the exact thing they complain about without realising because survivor ques are so long" or something along those lines.
You want to stop the reletively lower rank tactics like camping being used in dbd? Give those player with a higher skill level a reason to play killer again, bring back the veterans. Make killer actually fun to play. Less stressful.
Also remember. This exact pattern of tunneling and camping was used to cope with the dark times of dbd, those dark times only ended because killer was made to be more fun.
Umm.. No that's not the reason killers tunnel.
Saying that killers that tunnel are actually survivor mains that hate tunneling is a bit of a reach, not statistically proven, and just a baseless and illogical theory.
I'm pretty sure the reason killers camp and tunnel one survivor is to get at least ONE kill as fast and easy as possible.
It's that simple.
I go out of my way NOT to tunnel and camp. I use Thanatophobia and I go after whoever is uninjured and hasn't been hooked or whoever is most healthy I guess. This is more fun to do and comes naturally to me. I guess killers that tunnel and camp are too unskilled to get 4k so they go for the 1k every game.
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@BigBrainMegMain said:
Live.
Meg, how can you say this when you're a survivor?
Megs are evil dude I'm telling you
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@Irisora said:
Is this post from 2020? Because if you find a hag with ruin its because its one of her perks.. and that hex isn't a problem anymore. The devs nerf it to pieces and made the hag cry. Shame on you complaining about her.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- R.I.P Hex: Ruin ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Probably should have pointed this out earlier but I'm completely fine with it being in the game.
I think ruin is fine how it is and doesn't need any nerfs.
It does however add to the toxicity of hag when she camps and then occasionally messes up your gen progress so you have a hard time doing gens if you can't find the hex totem and also you can't save whoevers hooked cause she put like 5 traps around them and is camping
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@SpaceCoconut said:
A couple of things:
1) If you run into a bad hag, refer them to my channel since I have a Hag guide that will let them play better. (no more multiple traps at a hook)
2) Every killer can Proxy camp. If she's not leaving, abandon the survivor and do a gen.
3) If you get bored only doing gens, blame the devs.
4) The definition of "Literally" is in a literal manner or sense; exactly.
5) It's easy to beat a Hag... so it sounds like you need more practice.
A "couple" of things is not 5 things. Couple means 2.
Very useful in life to have this bit of knowledge. You're welcome. :)
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@Mo4ntus said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1174629#Comment_1174629
Its only bannable because they were holding you hostage normally this is not a bannable offense
OK but your personal opinions and experiences don't matter.
Devs literally put "working with the killer" along with plenty of other bannable offenses under the report button for the purpose of getting them penalized for their toxic actions.
Therefore you can in fact get banned by doing it.
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@Ivaldi said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1174688#Comment_1174688
Since when is failing a skill check, dropping a pallet or running by a survivor while the killer is chasing you a bannable offense?
Gotta love how you're excluding 90% of the list which is all mostly bannable offenses.
I never said failing skillchecks or dropping pallets are bannable, genius.
Bodyblocking someone, standing in the way of a pallet or window (especially in a chase) is bannable.
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@Clevite said:
7. Making post on forums in an attempt to criticize others game play or mistakes
8. Trying to be edgy by defending bannable offenses.
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I'm having a bit of trouble finding a build that helps with my play style.
I was going to use make your choice but it's useless to me because I don't tunnel or camp people at hooks.
So my build will probably look like..
BBQ
Dying light
Thanatophobia
Ruin
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To answer your question.. Killers camp or tunnel when they are garbage at the game and don't know how to play any other way.
So they go with the only play style that literally requires no skill or effort. They just stand still and stare at people on a hook for about 2 minutes.
Or I guess they walk around "patrolling" or proxy camping the area in a 10 meter radius around the hooked survivor.
I guess it's the easiest thing to just go after who is already on your screen but it's less BP for them, they allow themselves to get genrushed and if the survivors have brains, the killer ends with 2 kills AT MOST. Usually only 1 kill.
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@[Deleted User] said:
Hate Deathslinger, Doctor, and Legion. I think preventing survivors from playing the game to some degree or another is unfun, whether it snapping out of it or deep wound.
I don't really get the Freddy hate as much. Most of the Freddys I encounter are really bad. Many survivors don't bother to wake up for some reason. The game gives you multiple ways to wake up. You can literally wake multiple people up at once by failing a gen skill check. It's quicker to do that than to wake each other up manually. He has no chase power when you're awake outside of gen teleports that he completely telegraphs. Most of the time when I die to a Freddy, the team completely ignores every single Freddy mechanic. It's dumb. Dead survivors can't do gens and sleeping survivors can't loop Freddy all that well. Wake. Up.
I think a lot of people hate playing against him because he prevents you from playing the game.
I mean he wastes so much of your time by making you have to wake up way too often.
Waking yourself up by shocking gens is not good especially if you do it when everyones working on the same gen.. Ofc freddy is gonna see that and come hit you, put you back to sleep, chase everyone. By the time anyone gets back to working on a gen, they're back in dream state cause waking up from a gen actually wakes you up for less time than alarm clocks or friends snapping in your face.
His entire abilities prevent you from getting any gens done.
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@ShErMaDeRmA said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1173209#Comment_1173209
He was my first dlc and first game. Grew attached I guess. Plus, I can scare any bad teammates away
Scaring teammates away that actually sounds like a quentin main. Every quentin I have seen prefers to do gens alone and stay away from teammates. Perfect character for when you wanna be a loner hahhah
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I what everyone else said basically.. Just use headphones.
Injure them then catch up with phase and determine where they are with sound
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Ok you're a wraith that probably facecamps and tunnels and also uses noed. I know enough.
Of course you should feel bad cause you're making it boring for 4 other people and I don't see how you can have fun yourself when you play exactly like every other wraith main.
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Why would you p3 such a monstrosity
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I would say get spirit.
I don't get the "less powerful nurse"
Just cause they both sorta blink or phase doesn't mean the two should be compared.
The nurse as you already know, instantly blinks somewhere but stuns herself afterwards and has limited vision.
The spirit is invisible and has significantly more movement speed for.. I wanna say around an average of 5 seconds?
She also passively phases. Meaning it looks like she is constantly teleporting. All you have to do is walk or maybe even stand still and you are passively phasing. This does mess with survivors cause for a period of time.. You're invisible and teleporting everywhere all the time without even really doing anything.
Although this all can be changed with addons.
The nurse has.. Limited mind games. I wanna say it's rare. Usually you'll just blink near a survivor and try to hit them but you can pretend to blink somewhere else.
You can literally mind game survivors by standing still as spirit and pretending to "phase" and most will fall for it and walk in front of you and you can just instantly grab them when they vault. Lot of people are salty about that
Apparently she's the most hated killer around rank 1-10. Do with that information what you will but I got the spirit because I was tired n bored of being stunned half the game by maining nurse and honestly the spirit seems more like my play style and in some ways (dare I say) better than the nurse.
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@Kwikwitted said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1172896#Comment_1172896
Translation: I'm just going to say your wrong, and because I said I'm not going to point out why you're wrong, you just have to accept my logic as fact.
Top kek bud.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1173048#Comment_1173048
A survivor with no enhancements can do a generator in 1 minute 20 seconds.
Oh right, you're the bait guy, Doctor OP, kappa.
Your opinions are now false and irrelevant. You exposed yourself as a simpleton as soon as you said "kappa". Sorry but you lost this battle. Better luck next time.
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@USELESS said:
Man, u basically hate every single killer
4 killers is every single killer?
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I have to agree with him.. This game isn't survivor sided at all. Not that it needs to be, but it's way too much in favor of the killer now especially with the toolbox and item nerfs. I can't even repair like 25% of 1 gen with the best toolbox now.
Rip genrushing. One of the only viable counters against face campers
Killers are way too op. Some of them flat out need nerfs..ahem mmthedoctorahem
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Honestly if the killer does any of this I will tbag and or flashlight spam them... Which just so happens to be about 70% of my games.
1. Play the doctor
2. Tunnel or camp
3. Use a mori
4. Chase me for a long time and will not leave me alone to go chase someone else
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Seems like so far most the hated is freddy
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It's also cute when doctor tries to make someone scream but they have calm spirit* and they are just staring at him from the other side of the pallet like '_'
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@MegMain98 said:
In order from most hated to play against to least
HATE
- Freddy
- Billy
- Ghostface
- Doctor
- Legion (Old Legion was #1)
DO NOT ENJOY
- Deathslinger
- Trapper
- Huntress
- Clown
INDIFFERENT
- Spirit
- Pig
- Leatherface
- Wraith
- Hag
ENJOY
- Oni
- Plague
- Nurse
- Demogorgon
- Myers
Hey some of our list is actually the same, nice!
Just in case tldr, mine is
(HATED)
1. The Doctor.
2. The Hag.
3. The Nightmare.
4. The Clown.
(DISLIKE)
5. The Trapper.
6. The Ghost Face.
7. The Cannibal.
8. The Legion.
9. The Deathslinger.
10. The Wraith.
(MEH)
11. The Hillbilly.
12. The Pig.
13. The Oni.
14. The Spirit.
(FUN)
15. The Shape.
16. The Demogorgon.
17. The Plague.
18. The Huntress.
19. The Nurse.
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@douggie123 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1172932#Comment_1172932
For pig u are picking at her power are you for real.
Bruh I mean I get it we both don't agree on our opinions on killer. Cool but that's not really the topic? Like the topic is more
" YOUR most hated killers"
And not so much
"critique my opinions on killers"
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That was a really long one.. Y'all can just put your most hated and most liked but it'd be awesome if you ranked them all 1-19 cause I'm interested to see everyone elses
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@Kwikwitted said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1172571#Comment_1172571
I like the double down on the bait, thanks for chuckle.
I like the counter quadruple down on my double down
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@Kwikwitted said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1172553#Comment_1172553
God please tell me this is bait. I might actually lose faith in humanity if this is legit.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1172555#Comment_1172555
Ok good, it is bait, faith in humanity restored. For now......
Bait?
It's called facts. I mean, actually play the game for about 2 minutes and you'll have enough experience to see everything I've said is true.
Don't get mad if you use mori and only get 3 kills when a 9 year old can get 4 kills without a mori. 🤷♂️
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I would say increase the window of time you have to chainblink. As I can almost never chainblink when I should have been able to. 1 more second is probably all it needs.
The stun after every blink is what usually makes the nurse unfun to play. It's moreso the limited vision that's annoying. Even after a successful hit, it really can cause you to lose the survivor anyways. Somehow make the limited vision shorter or remove it alltogether but keep the stun.
Allow her to basic attack, blink, basic attack, blink, basic attack. How it is now, removes her ability to attack after blinking or vice versa.. Sometimes which kinda sucks and defeats the purpose of blinking.
Speed up the distance charge time of her blink. If I wanna blink as far away as possible, I have to wait ages for the thing to charge up.. Huge time waster.
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@Coder said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/139198/gen-speeds-arent-the-issue-maps-are
I say tis all the time. If maps sizes and strong loops and windows are fixed, killers could down survivors more easily, and as a consequence of that, gen speeds will go down.
I don't want 2 minutes gens, or 20 minutes matches, I want 10 minutes matches where I can apply pressure without being sweaty.
OK but survivors need no nerfs AT All. That's the thing. Killers are already overpowered. They don't need more than they already have.
No one gets sweaty chasing survivors. I literally eat at the same time or stop and send a text, listen to music or watch Netflix as a killer and still end the game with 4k. It's that easy. Even my 9 year old brother managed to kill everyone on his first try as killer.
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If at least 1 or 2 gens are done by the time you hook 1 survivor, it's not that gen speeds need nerfing.
It's the fact that you're bad at playing killer and need more practice.
Funny how everyone that suggests gen speeds being nerfed are all just killer mains that rarely play survivor.. If at all.
The thing is killers are overpowered. They have SIGNIFICANTLY more movement speed and all this wallhack "aura reading" vision.
That's not even including each killers unique abilities that also give them an advantage over the survivors.
Then killers have ebony moris. Way too gamechanging they allow them to kill everyone after just 1 hook. Then they camp and tunnel people so they can immediately do the mori. Which is extremely unbalanced and toxic yet I see none of these killer mains suggesting that to be nerfed.
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Decisive strike is a gift from heaven and I'm going to start using it. All you ds haters.
Let's 100% remove doctor instead cause I kind of somewhat like to vault and use pallets while in a chase.
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@Hsizzle said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1167359#Comment_1167359
this “counterplay” statement of yours is fundementally wrong. his only counterplay is if the player misses shocks or you have calm spirit. thats you being at mercy of the players skill and not skill based. anyone with good hours in the game knows that good shock timings have no counterplay ans loopjg isnt the best option against a good doc
Calm spirit does nothing against the doctor actually. Yeah I think you don't get revealed cause you don't scream and that's nice but when he's chasing you and tries to make you scream by shocking you.. Don't scream but you still can't vault or drop pallets.. you still can't vault windows.
There is absolutely no counterplay against the Dr. He needs a huge nerf for that to even be a thing.
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@ad19970 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1168035#Comment_1168035
That's actually really petty. Instead of trying to improve against a Doctor you just DC. And saying that playing against him is not fun is a fact is honestly just hilarious. You can't actually believe that or? So am I wrong then when I say that I highly enjoy going against him? It is a matter of opinion whether he is fun to go against or not, even if you have met like 10 people who all say he isn't fun to go against.
I also love that you accuse Doctor mains of not wanting survivors to have counterplay, yet what makes Doctor strong is that he himself also has counterplay to survivors in chases. But survivors have counterplay as well. The fact that he can prevent vaulting and pallet dropping is the one aspect that makes him strong in chases, not sure why that ability needs a downside.
Typical reply from a doctor main though. Look at your profile picture. You try to insert yourself into these statistics when you're biased.
There is no learning against the doctor. I've learned the best ways to play against the doctor and that still isn't enough cause he has little to no counter play at all against him. If Dr mains want to be able to spam shock me so I can NEVER vault or use pallets and my location is constantly revealed ALL GAME, he at least needs slower movement speed like the nurse or he needs to slow himself down, get exhausted, stunned, or have a cool down on these cancerous abilities.
Cause compared to all the other killers, the Dr is the ONLY one who is STACKED with unnecessary abilities that make him overpowered.
Sorry I'm not gonna play against cheats dude.. cause that's basically what it is.
Devs probably haven't realized how much of the community hates him and does not have fun playing against this pile of feces killer.
Do I have fun playing against the nurse? Hell yes. Even if she kills me.. cause she's balanced.
I know DCing against the doctor is kinda petty but it speaks volumes to the devs over just complaining about it. I know other people who do it too. This number is A LOT. Then we rate it 1 out of 5 did not have fun at all.
That's the only way to express to the devs "statistically there's a problem with the community and this killer, the doctor.. Hmmm maybe we should give him a nerf and make him balanced so people don't always instaDC against him?"
Cause the way I see it, I'm not gonna play a 10-20minute game wasting my time not having fun against this one character.
I can just DC quickly get into another match where I can actually play a balanced and fun game for the most part.
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Ads is ATTACK DAMAGE/SECOND.. never have I heard of "aiming down sights" even in fps games it's attack damage per second.
Also all of those complaints seem like really biased opinions from a killer main... Just saying.
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The bloody clothes are ugly asf though.. I have it unlocked for some characters and I still don't use it over the standard noob clothes.
They need to give a better reward for prestiging. Don't care if the devs think ugly cosmetics are reward enough.
I want something that actually looks good or serves a purpose. At least make it so everyone can see my prestige rank in all lobbies and after the game, everywhere.
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I agree with this honestly survivors get the BEST toolbox in the game and it now only repairs maybe almost HALF a gen and the repair bar still moves slow af.
Besides you can bring the best items you possibly can as survivor and the killer switches to Franklin's demise at the last second.
Exactly what this other guy said here too.. Killers have ebony mori so everyone is basically dead after 1 hook.
Thats game changing and compared to what the survivors have?
Survivors have JUNK to work with now. Brown toolboxes repair the gen a LIL bit faster and they only repair like what 5% of the gen?
What idiot thought of this patch??? They basically made survivor toolboxes useless and screwed us over big time.
Killers can now tunnel and facecamp without worrying about survivors counterplaying and genrush at all.
Its obvious some garbage killer main is probably responsible for this patch. Or someone who doesn't play the game at all #########.
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With these things, it's usually a matter of opinion whether something is "unfun" or not but given my experience in meeting new people on DBD..
When we play a marathon all day, everytime we play against a doctor we ALL immediately have this "Ohh wow.. Yet 'nother doctor, guess this match won't be fun" kinda reaction.
I would meet someone new after inviting them to a party and when we play against the doctor.. They have the same things to say.
"doctor is so boring to play against"
"this killer needs a huge nerf, like he isn't fun at all to play against"
"he can just spam that ability it's so toxic"
"least favorite killer to face"
"his abilities are so annoying"
"I ######### hate playing the doctor dude"
All said by different people I've met including myself multiple times.
I hate playing against this killer so much to the point I actually DC the second I hear his terror radius, see him or his aura.. Basically as soon as I find out its the doctor, I'm out of the game and into the next.
The way I see it is I'm not gonna play against a killer I (also no one else at all) don't have fun playing against.
His abilities that reveal your location seem to cover almost the entire map or at least a huge majority chunk of it, he effects skill checks in an annoying way, he prevents you from EVER using pallets or vaulting windows while having little to no drawbacks to himself at all, he COMPLETELY removes your ability to do ANYTHING AT All by forcing you to first.. "snap out of it", not to mention his ugly character model and annoying laughing voice sounding like Elmo.
All of this summed up honestly makes him unfun.. I can confidently say that's a matter of fact.. Not opinion.
Every other killer requires effort to play and effects some part of the game.. Not all of it.
Take the nurse for example (a killer that's actually balanced) .. I can blink past that pallet or window you just dropped or vaulted but I stun myself everytime I blink and I don't reveal your location or prevent you from doing anything in the game that you should be able to because there's a thing called counterplay that needs to always be an option in the game.
Thats a thing the doctor players aren't used to and can't deal with.. Survivors counterplaying.
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Always thought "what about the people with arthritis?".
My hands personally don't hurt from MASHING the controller but it's so annoying to have to do.
I wish I can just ?HOLD DOWN? the A button instead.
I actually got so annoyed one day at having to do that I decided to just DC everytime strictly to avoid being on struggle.
I only did that for a day then decided to just do this
A... A... A... A... A...
and not
A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.
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By "swf" they should just allow you to use a microphone and your voice be heard by all other survivors.
Almost every other multiplayer game has this feature. The fact that it isn't social and the only way to hear other survivors voices is to invite them to a party is kinda lame.
They can hear you scream.. Why cant they hear you talk? That excuse that "survivors are in a different realm they shouldnt be able to-" seems like a cop-out for killer mains.
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Yeah I'd want one for survivors but for everyone to have the same dance emote would be kinda lame and weird.
If they do, they should allow us to pick one out of 10 dance emotes to use in-game.
They should also have more expressive emotes like clap, cheer, laugh, yawn, angry, cry, spooky, magic card trick, I got your nose, don't forget the typical fortnite dance kinda emote, salute, sprinkle some salt, casually pull out a sandwich and start eating it.