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Decisive strike should be in Good perks. It might have gotten nerfed hard, but it was broken, now it is decent. Enduring screws it over, but besides that it is good, especially in the end game when the killer is patrolling you.
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@Blueberry said:
Yeah once it's down 2 to survivors they literally refuse to ever do gens. They just hide without touching gens until 1 gets found and then he just DC's to give the hatch to the other guy or the other guy will just let him die while he waits near the hatch. It's terrible design.
Exactly, it feels really out of place in this game. Even when I get the escape with the hatch, I feel like I didn't earn it.
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@DocOctober said:
I don't want one as I'm sure it would be a big middle finger to all Freddy mains who put time into learning to play him successfully in his current state. All he needs are some QoL changes so that not literally every game mechanic is stacked against him anymore.
The devs do not have good track record with reworks making Killers viable. Spirit was a thankful and great exception to that.
Yeah that is why I would like some info. I got used to Freddy and would hate to learn a entire new character. QoL changes sound good.
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Sad to see everyone wants Legion reworked before Freddy. Legion might be annoying as hell but he can still be viable with the right build, Freddy is just mediocre. I still main him cause I like the movies but jeezus, when will the freddy rework come? It's been like a year since they announced it!
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Yeep, we always focus on the negatives rather than the positives. Being complained about DS, what did the developers do? They reworked it, but now people are complaining it's underpowered. We should remind ourselves to have fun and not care about balance TOO MUCH, we should acknowledge it but not force it in every thread.
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Ds is horrible, they are giving a slug for 60 seconds so you can not use it, it was better to use perk unbreakble now. Thank you devs for this beautiful work.
Used Ds since killer was camping me near an opened gate. Got unhooked, killer downed me instantly, used ds and escaped. Sorry but DS can still win you games.
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Of course you would stop using Ds, only toxic individuals used it and now that it is nerfed every toxic individual stopped using it. Noob3 recently did a video and of course he is not using it, rather spin chill?! If you seriously hate it, use BT, and if you don't like it then sucks. DS is still useful, although I wish the stun duration was longer.
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Devs hate solo play, not swf. Is swear solo play is dead if they keep nerfing survivors as they have recently been doing.
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@KingB said:
1. 60 seconds is a long time.
2. The killer has no way of knowing if someone has ds.
3. The skill check is pretty much impossible to miss.
4. Run unbreakable if slugging is a problem.
Ds is not useless now, it's MUCH better for the game. Along with also being a strong anti-tunnel perk.
Not If you are in a laggy match, I swear you can still miss it.
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@GrootDude said:
I don’t have much problem as solo.🤷🏼♂️ That’s just me I guess.
So lucky. Past 20 games there would be at least one Dc. Guess I have just been unlucky.
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@IronKnight55 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/376442#Comment_376442
I play both survivor and killer equal. I'm not a survivor main and I think the stun needs to be longer.
That's what I said. Buffing the duration to 4 seconds would make it viable and more of a reward.
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@WaffleFalafel said:
Fire Up got a mix. Assuming it didn't get changed since the PTB, it will now give you 15% increase to action speed at full stacks as opposed to before where it was 14%. The other change to it was that the new Fire Up gets that 15% slightly slower than before, although it's practically becomes the same as before with 3 to 4 stacks.
Haven't got to test Thana though, so someone else will have to provide that for you.
Maybe read the actual patch notes before commenting. Fire UP now gives a 4% stackable bonus instead of the 3% in the ptb. So the max increase is 20%
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@Condorloco_26 said:
Equip Small Game instead. It's way more useful.
Got tunneled toward the end of the game, got hooked. Got farmed, used Ds and escaped. Not really useless. It can really save your ass.
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fine it funny that the perk still functions as a get out of free jail card, but once you add conditions survivor mains cry about how it is useless. People who no longer use DS are tier whores. Leave Ds as it is, the only buff that would be justified would be to add one more second to it, as enduring screws it over.
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For ######### sake. It takes 5+ mins to get a match as killer.
LOL in the scenario you described they were wrong for dcing, but sadly I feel like dcing is justified in other cases. If I get tunneled from the hook, I am dcing, Why? Cause what's the point of playing the game then? People who camp and tunnel are just as bad as people who dc, why not ######### about them as well? Also why do you play with survivors with those name tags? Just search another lobby.
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I don't know where to begin. I guess I'll start with playing as survivor (P.S. this is coming from a rank 1 Killer and Survivor):
Yep, I play solo survivor and it has been #########. Really considering to move on from this game, but I have yet to play killer so I will see how that will be, with the new changes and crap.
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Honestly this game is dying pretty fast, instead of solving issues Behavior seems to create more and it is infuriating. For the first time played less than a hour of this game, game is not fun anymore.
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@Dark_Whorse said:
I mean, it's 4 kills. You're here crying on the forum about it. Sounds like they won.
So you are saying slugging and not hooking a single survivor is fun gameplay and is justified? Looks like you are the cause of the problem.
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How did the legion get buffed?
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Doesn't matter, this game is ######### anyways.
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I play Freddy and sometimes Trapper/Pig. I suck at finding survivors so Freddy helps me in that regard.
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@ChesterTheMolester said:
Its still bad tbh, Brutal Strength has a constant 20% bonus that does not require waiting till the endgame. If vaults are your problem then Bamboozle is still superior too.
Just make it have a 30% max bonus then we can start even considering it.
Was gonna say 5% but afraid that might be a huge leap for the devs, at least now it is mediocre instead of trash.
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Does anyone know how long the Killer will be stunned if they run Eduring? I heard it's like only 1 second, and if that is the case than that sucks.
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@brokedownpalace said:
It should go up 3% for every hook and reward the killer for doing well rather than poorly. And cap at like 8-10 tokens.
They added my fire up Buff idea of making it 4% stackable instead of 3% when I asked them in the Q&A, still mediocre but I'm happy the devs listened to me.
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@Eveline said:
I am sorry for not so relevant question but I can't open threads atm. Where does entity take survivors that die on hook?
Back to the campfire.
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@MojoTheFabulous said:
I'm just gonna assume the cosmetics aren't canon.
That sucks, would have added more lore to the game but its whatever
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@PhantomMask20763 said:
Freddy would honestly be waaaaay too powerful in dbd if we used his real form. He'd be stronger than the Nurse, he would also just break the repaired gens making the survivors start all over again if they even manage to get them done. But by the lore in-game, it states that his power was changed. This is the part where it describes what happened to him
Then Freddy felt another presence with him; something old, powerful and dark. A miasma enveloped him and the only sensation was a sound like wooden beams flexing and creaking in the distance. The echoing groan of metal crushed against metal. Something arcane and unknowable, half-way between language and pure terror.A moment of falling and spinning and then Freddy was back in the school. But not his school. It looked the same, but it felt different. His powers were tempered in some ways and focused in others. The boy had gone for now, but another prey walked the hallways. Some would be inconsequential; others would become his new favourites. All would fall before his claws.
The entity changed his powers, so unfortunately, we dont have the sadistic, dream demon Freddy. In this world, no one can be more powerful than the entity. In Freddys words "Welcome to my world B*tch"
Too be fair to the Entity, she didn't entirely screw Freddy over. From my knowledge watching the original film, Freddy can't put you into the dream world, you go in once you fall asleep. So in DBD, if Canon Freddy was implemented then when the survivors are asleep it would be a ######### storm for them, but that is the issue. Survivors would need to be asleep and Freddy wouldn't be able to force them to sleep, unlike how the Entity allows him to. They would get the 5 gens down and the gates opened before they start to sleep.
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Seeing many people talk about voice comms, and I say they should implement it but have the ability to turn it off mid game. I feel like people should be given more options but not take it if they want more of a challenge and not deal with the kids screaming every second.
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Would be cool for a limited special event, but in general no.
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Too op. Running around slugging and snowballing. I wish I didn’t have to say this but it’s getting out of hand. 0-2 gens done max anytime this happens.
Just give the hillbilly slightly more start up when readying his chainsaw. While not OP, he can quickly dominate but hey what do I know? I main Freddy XD
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Question: Can you please make Fire Up gain a stackable bonus of 4% for each generator popped instead of the 3% implemented in the Ptb? Many people still find it a underwhelming perk.
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I like the new content and all, but was really hoping we would get the freddy rework by now.
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@GrootDude said:
Like I said and another said in your last post unless your lag causes you to mass dc then you’ll be fine.
NO mass dc nowhere, so thanks I should be good.
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@TAG said:
I'm pretty sure the devs will be able to separate lag from cheating.
I hope. Do they check the files to see if you implemented hacks or something? If they do then I am fine.
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@twistedmonkey said:
Do you have internet direct to your house or is it an over the air Wi-Fi?
If you have a direct line is it your internet or just the wifi from the router that is bad.
Wi-Fi is generally fine if its strong enough, you can get powerline adapters or Wi-Fi extender kits to increase the signal where your equipment is.
In terms of reports it will also depend on how your ping is in the lobby and if you also contantly teleporting when you are not being chased, another survivor can also record you when spectating.
If you get constantly reported they will look into it further, I don't know if they will do anything but morally if you know your connection is that bad you are ruining the killers playing experience and in essense gaining an unfair advantage.
true,i feel really bad and I don't want to be associated with those idiots that actually hack. I constantly teleport, even when not in a chase.My ping goes to red and yellow in the lobbies.
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@GrootDude said:
No you won’t get banned. (Trust me I get reported a lot for bad internet)
but the killer chases me whole game and doesn't seem to catch up to me. And I teleporting alittle,I'm just worried when they send the recording to the devs they will ban me.
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@powerbats said:
Most swf groups are potatoes and the swat teams are rare and most groups I'm lucky to see 1 DS let alone 2 and usually I still 3-4k on them. The saw teams will wipe the floor with me a lot of times depending on map rng.But If I've faced them before i know how they play and adjust accordingly and can still get 2-4k on the sweaty ones because I adapt.
Nice man,Geuss I got the rare swat team.
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yep,and survivor mains feel like he is fine atm,LOL
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@SenzuDuck said:
@Milkymalk said:
@TheMidnightRidr said:
I promise you that if SWF was taken out of the game, DBD would die.You DO realize that for its first few months, there was no SWF and at some time survivors would lobby-dodge until they wound up in the same game as their friends? SWF was introduced to stop that. Until then, there was no SWF mode. The game was balanced around being isolated.
No it wasn't, they stated a few streams ago when they released they only had time to do KYF or SWF, and they opted for KYF.
Stop spreading misinformation - SWF was always intended.
what wasn't intended is player being so poor at the game that they can't handle it.
Yep,because swf CLEARLY doesn't give any advantage to the survivors.
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@malloymk said:
Rank 1 Freddy/Myers/Doc here. There are definitely games that come up against SWF where I get trucked. It happens to me. It haplens to everyone.That said, it doesn't happen to me every game. Most games I'm getting 2-3 kills. That seems balanced to me. Even on a 1k game I'm still likely going to more than likely black PIP, so who cares? As a killer I don't play for the 4k. I just want competitive games.
If you find yourself getting repeatedly trucked by SWF teams, then maybe you need to find a killer or loadout that works better for you.
If you're a killer that doesn't get trucked all the time by SWF, you just get annoyed on the occasions that it does happen, maybe you should just grow up a bit and realize that sometimes you're going to lose a game. And maybe be thankful that most games last about 8-10 minutes so it's not like you're stuck getting shat on for a half hour or more.
That's just my take. Admittedly I am a survivor main by about a 3:1 ratio. However, rank 1 at both with non-optimal killers (I play a lot).
So i should be happy I'm losing? Makes so much sense
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@KrustyNuggets said:
Thanks BHVR for ruining yet another survivor perk, did you take into account Enduring will make it a 1 second stun? The fact that slugging will become a thing again? You keep nerfing survivors, the CORE of your player base, and you will kill this game. I hope all the reddit killers and cry baby Tru3 are happy they are helping to kill this game.Enduring didn't fully counter it, just made it less brain dead. Also, Ds now will begin during the pick up animation, so it prevents dribbling.
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@xChrisx said:
Dont tunnel. EzI love this. I never tunnel, and now I get rewarded for not tunneling.
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@not_Queen said:
Right now our Community team is gathering feedback and questions on the DS changes. We need to run it by the Designers and will hopefully be able to answer most of them tomorrow.I know this may seem off topic but Will we get any info on the freddy changes? It's been a while since we last heard about anything and you guys have said in the past that you guys are testing it out.
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oh how silly of me. I forgot that enduring prevents them from completely escaping my grasp,therefore not being able to get to a near vault or window,how silly of me. Lets not forget if they have insta heal, that is balanced and fun.
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@HavelmomDaS1 said:
I am loving the salt from these survivor mains. Now I'm just hoping we hear about the freddy rework.
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Make the freddy rework come faster, why is it taking years to change him?
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@Daveer said:
DS was a good perk, it required skills (Skill check),As soon as i read that I knew this was a boosted survivor. Also, you can still escape the killers grasp, just not as easily as before. It will also occur in the pick up animation, so you cannot be dribbled. It has the potential to be really strong end game, not all game like it used to be.
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I love these changes, can't wait for them to be implemented in the next patch. Also, any news on the freddy rework?
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Love the survivor mains complaining, Ds needed the change and sorry you can't have another chance to live, as if you didn't have enough chances already.
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@malloymk said:
Rank 1 Freddy/Myers/Doc here. There are definitely games that come up against SWF where I get trucked. It happens to me. It haplens to everyone.That said, it doesn't happen to me every game. Most games I'm getting 2-3 kills. That seems balanced to me. Even on a 1k game I'm still likely going to more than likely black PIP, so who cares? As a killer I don't play for the 4k. I just want competitive games.
If you find yourself getting repeatedly trucked by SWF teams, then maybe you need to find a killer or loadout that works better for you.
If you're a killer that doesn't get trucked all the time by SWF, you just get annoyed on the occasions that it does happen, maybe you should just grow up a bit and realize that sometimes you're going to lose a game. And maybe be thankful that most games last about 8-10 minutes so it's not like you're stuck getting shat on for a half hour or more.
That's just my take. Admittedly I am a survivor main by about a 3:1 ratio. However, rank 1 at both with non-optimal killers (I play a lot).
Yeah ok, thanks for the advice. Guess you can't win em all am i right?
