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@switch said:
rank 1 queues are messed up thats why alot of ppl including my self deranked to rank 8 so i can get games.
EU in the middle of the day is dead at rank 1 the bug hasnt been fixed yet.Ususally killers know that. Chances are high he doesnt know about the rank 15 depip thing and that he is below rank 15
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@Killmaster said:
@Harket said:
Learn to hide yourself and git gud.@Master said:
@Killmaster said:
Right now he is too powerful and snowballs games too quickly at highranks when combined with bbq survivors have no chance and it turns into a slugfest. My proposal is simple, put a 30 second cooldown on his chainsaw after he downs someone with it. This way he cannot just fly across the map immediately after hooking someone. It’s a soft nerf but atleast gives survivors some breathing room for stealth and not just instadown chainsaw, hook, bbq, fly across map and repeat.You misunderstood the devs.
Yeah they said not every killer is supposed to be viable at high rank.
But that does NOT mean that all killers have to be turned into unviable killersUnviable would mean that the killer no matter how hard they tried couldn't hook a single survivor, 2k is viable, at high ranks it should be a stalemate with both killers and survivors using every trick in the book against eachother, I'm talking Mori's, addons, instaheals, ect. I'd save this for a different topic but IMO rank should be based on perks and addons not pipping. A weighted score before you enter a lobby determines how toxic a killer and survivors would be in that game, this would also require no changing of perks in the lobby. This way you don't get tombstone myers on rank 15s nor 4 bnps against a rank 20 killer.
Unviable means that there is a chance you verse a team (SWF) where the result of the match is decided already before the game has started. 2k is the balance the devs aim for, but sadly only nurse can reach that against tryhard survivors.
If you wanna see how killers other than nurse perform under competitive circumstances, check out the official tournament (mute the caster, its pathetic)
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@Amelia said:
Hello, as far as i know, if you report them they'll eventualy get banned, if they DC too oftenReports for DCing do nothing
There is an automatic system runing in teh backgroudn that will become active if your DC rate suceeds 80% or sth like that. The rate is unknown, but really high, so you will never hit any penalties.
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@JadsterNZ1 said:
There are 15k+ players a day playing this game..so tell me devs why it takes 30 MINUTES+ to find a game/full lobby?Guess you are low rank,
There are no palyers below rank 15 because you cant derank anymore to those ranks.Rank up and you will find games in no time
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@DarkGGhost said:
What if survivors die with 2 hooks only instead of 3 that is right now but will keep the timer to 2 minutes.Dont think thats necessary.
Just remove SWF from ranked and increase gentime a lil bit. Oh and fix the insane loops.
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@Wolf74 said:
Is this just cheap bait or is that guy serious?Nowadays its hard to tell.
There actually are some survivors out there that honestly believe what they say -
Yes, but it will take some time.
In the meantime you can make use of the "leave lobby" button. It is there for a reason.
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@Mister_xD said:
not a single killer needs a nerf right now.
unless nurse, they ALL need buffs.Nurse is the only killer that manages the 2 kill average the devs aim for in a competitive environment.
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@BigBang said:
My feedback is: I loose around 80% of my games VS those killers (I dont count the last one escaping by the hatch. That's a win for you ? Oo).HillBilly one shot erverybody, and they all have tooooooo much map control. Versus non-pro player like me, this is WAY too hard.
That's supposed to be balenced ?
So you play 5 games and call this a statistic? Gotta love it
Maybe you just git gud and if you refuse to, why not play a but of that OP billy? Once you climb a bit higher, I will accept your apologies after a SWF has bullied you -
@Killmaster said:
Right now he is too powerful and snowballs games too quickly at highranks when combined with bbq survivors have no chance and it turns into a slugfest. My proposal is simple, put a 30 second cooldown on his chainsaw after he downs someone with it. This way he cannot just fly across the map immediately after hooking someone. It’s a soft nerf but atleast gives survivors some breathing room for stealth and not just instadown chainsaw, hook, bbq, fly across map and repeat.You misunderstood the devs.
Yeah they said not every killer is supposed to be viable at high rank.
But that does NOT mean that all killers have to be turned into unviable killers -
Will you ever bother balancing the game around SWF?
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@Might_Oakk said:
Shes a really cool killer. Could probly use a couple small tweaks. I'll be buying the dlc but I'm an adult so I make the cost of the dlc in about 20min. I'm sure I'll play her for more time then I would spending $10 doing anything else.Its not about the actual 8 bucks you are spending, its about making the devs realize that the current trend cant continue. But if you wanna stick to killers who are balanced around low rank survivors and will get crushed later on, then go ahead
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They need to rework their whole matchmaking system. and I mean they literally have to built up a new one from the ground.
IT will take some time
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@Wise_William said:
I don't know if anyone asked it yet but I want to know. Have you ever considered the idea of creating dedicate servers for this game? I think that'd defently improve the quality of the game.Of course it will improve the game, but DBD is coded in spaghetti code and the devs struggle even with easier changes. I doubt they will dare to touch network related things
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@Mister_xD said:
i'm waiting for mine too
what is taking them so long?Its BHVR.
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@Odacus said:
This is a rather long post, but bear with me, I really want to hear your opinions on it.
I'm always looking forward to the next Q&A because we can get a lot of great info on what's coming in the future, more so since they changed the format and now they answer questions every full moon. This time was not different, but as soon as I started hearing the suggestions for the next patches, well, it felt rather dissappointing, like some sort of bad joke.
Killers have complained for the longest time that gens are done too quickly, and that survivors need some other objectives to stretch the match a bit, so the Devs answer to that was buffing Sabo so that they "invest more time not doing gens", and nerf slugging by allowing survivors to heal faster and up to 95% while on the ground.
That just feels wrong in many ways, for starters buffing the Sabotage mechanic won't guarantee that survivors will spend less time doing gens, it only means that they have exactly the same objectives as before and now have a stronger tool to prevent the killer from hanging people. Then they thought "Hey, if everyone is breaking hooks the slug meta will come into play in no time, and everyone knows that being in the ground for 5 minutes is not fun, so let's make it a bit better on survivors" and so, they also proposed the idea of nerfing the only way to counter the lack of hooks. In short, it means that the Devs want to buff a mechanic that is very annoying for killers and then take away some of their power to counter it.
After that, someone pointed to the fact that skillchecks are not really skillful at all, and if they were planning on changing it in the future. The answer? "It may not be hard at this point for experienced survivors, but new survivors struggle with it and making it harder will only make things worse" So yeah, they are throwing that out the window for the sake of new players. It can be a small tweak such as changing the speed some times or making the "Great skillcheck" section to appear at the middle or the start of the indicator, like it does in Identity V. But I guess we won't be saying any kind of change on the skillchecks for quite a while.
Sorry for the rant, but this was the first time that I felt dissappointed while looking at a Q&A and just wanted to share my thoughts with you guys. Please share your opinions!The problem is that those alternative objectivse are ALTERNATIVE. Just like the totems, survivors can simpyl ignore them and complain about NOED then.
Now by buffing sabo and nerfing slugging at the same time (we still ahve to wait how it turns out, but making pickign up a survivor 3 times faster is INSANE) I dont wanna imagine the result tbh.And just a note, surviors can still ignore hooks completely and do gens as they do now. Then nothign changes lol. The only possibility the devs will create is denying additional hooks for the killer and keep gentime the same, I mean #########?
It is well known that the devs balance the game around beginners but still force us into competitive matchmkaking.
In the end you have to realize that nothing is sent in stone. If these changes make it into the PTB then its time to rant and if they go live, its time to switch to survivor or to another game
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@Tsulan said:
@Visionmaker said:
Tsulan said:@Visionmaker said:
@Odacus You're overreacting.
They said the Saboteur is going to be changed so that it doesn't provide extra charges anymore, which effectively reduces the charges by 75%. Hooks are not going to be dropping left and right. Read the changes carefully. There is no buff for survivors, and even if there were, that does not matter if they are being severely nerfed to begin with. The world is not ending every time "buff" and "survivor" is mentioned in the same sentence.
Be happy survivors will be doing something other than stalking you with a flashlight because that's been nerfed to oblivion too.
Really? Survivors don´t stalk me anymore with the flashlight? Strange, i could have sworn that my last match had stalkers...
Then they're wasting time because flashlight saves are almost impossible versus any killer with more than two brain cells. Win-win for you!
I must encounter only brain dead killers then. I still manage to flashlight save.
Survivors still havent realized that they need to adapt their timing.
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@Visionmaker said:
Slugging is a ######### mechanic. Almost no one uses it to begin with, and will no longer need to with their new endgame mechanics.Sabo is weak and was only mentioned to be buffed from 3m to 3m 30s. Sabo is going to remain weak.
Self care healing went up by 8s and that is significant.
Everyone who is complaining is overreacting.
Slugging is the only way to stop genrushing. Sometimes you simply dont have enough time to hook someone and I slugg regularly depending on the situation.
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@Mc_Harty said:
@Mycroft said:
Ok then, for the logically impaired.https://clips.twitch.tv/OutstandingInexpensiveWaterKlappa
Do you want me to tell them to fax it to you?
Title: Is facecamping bannable?
@Not_Queen says: Facecamping is not a banable exploit. Mentions that's its bannable if you do it too many times under the griefing guidlines.
Doesn't mentioned that it wasn't an exploit.
You have no case lol.
Facecamping has been removed from teh game anyway, so you cant perform it anymore and thus wont get banned
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@Mycroft said:
@245_Trioxin said:
Most times, that hatch escape was well-deserved, no matter how much you want to cry about it. You got three kills already, more than likely. You don't need, nor deserve, nor are you entitled to a 4k every match.
That's pure nonsense. The hatch shouldn't even be in play if the exit gates are open. The goal of surviving should be, oh, I dunno SURVIVIVING. Not opening the gates, and sharing the points to open them then tiptoeing over to the blatantly obvious hatch you saw 7 minutes ago while being NASCAR stock car racer around the pile of tires now you know where it is.
Once again you act like people saying these things never play survivor. Legacy 3 Meg, Claudette Legacy 2 Nea. I've nodded off during survivor matches and still made it out. It's easy AF.
And yes I'm biased. It literally makes me feel guilty playing survivor cause the fundamental basics of killer design is inept. Every killer, but Nurse has the same damn weakness. You can play against them the exact same way. Killers are like trains on tracks. They speed up, slow down, can't do much else. Linear AF.
One question.
Why does the survivor deserve the hatch after his mates died? Its not like he has done anything to accomplish that, he could have been sitting in closets the whole game too.
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@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
Mycroft said:Can people stop putting Hag as high tier, as if her doing something slightly easier now you could do with an add on always makes her good when she can't chase for crap and you can fart and remove her ability.
Hag IS top tier. I play her at rank 1 and almost never get looped
Hag has become really good against average survivors. But good lord, if they have flashlights....
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@Delfador said:
@Why_Are_You_Salty said:
@Delfador said:
@Why_Are_You_Salty said:
@Master said:
@Why_Are_You_Salty said:
@Master said:
Clown above billy? Are you insane?
Hag is below billy too if you ask me (at least against competent teams)Well to be honest I had no intent of just making a tier list I had the intent of making people mad about my placements because of Spirit being mid tier and everyone else where the majority don't think they should be. What can I say I love salt.
The spirit? I already forgot about her, no need to bother anymore since she will dissapear like clown did (top tier btw cough cough
)and this is what I love salt salt salt more please. Spirit is a mid tier killer if played right she is JUST meant to be for transportation and mindgames that's it and Clown is top tier because he slows and can force pallets down and counter looping where as Billy can't counter looping. Mobility doesn't instantly make a killer top tier or low tier it's if the power helps in a chase and I see Clown being more useful in a chase than Billy.
The reason why you think in this way is because you are not very experienced.
This game was never about dull chasing. One mistake against a hillbilly will ensure 1 hit down. Because of his chainsaw and 1 hit ability, he is able to slug and prolong the game. Because he has his mobility, you are never safe and one mistake you make against him can ensure 4k and this goes on like this. He has moments where he wins the game and snowball effect.
Watch Zubat and you will understand why hillbilly is more powerful than any other killer except for nurse.
I am experienced I don't know how many hours I have since you can't check on console, but I judge killers based off of how well they do in a chase Billy is still top tier with his mobility and insta down, but he can't stop loops and force pallets like Clown can you're entitled to your opinion and how you judge killers, but I judge killers based off of how well they do in chases like how Tru3ta1ent bases his opinion off of how well the killer counters looping and how Bricky another streamer who frequently streams dbd bases his off of if the power helps in a chase. I'm learning to play Billy right now because Hag I need better perks for and Clown I haven't bothered to level him up yet. Keep in mind that this is my opinion if you think Billy is better than anyone else besides Nurse that's your opinion. I just base off of how the power helps in a chase.
Of course everybody has their own opinion and I can't force anybody to think in the way I do.
What streamers think or do doesn't bother me. The only reason why I mentioned Zubat was because I wanted you to know the full potential hillbilly has.
Not to mention tru3 is not that of a good killer. I have nothing against him and like him as a human being but whining all the time and blaming the game all the time is not a good way to go. The reason why he thinks that the game is severely unbalanced is because he thinks that this game is all about chasing people around loops which is a huge mistake.
Of course you can make your tier list around looping but then you won't get the best killers in the game. The only accurate information you will have is the rank of nurse.
Again, if looping was the most important part of this game, then the trapper would be better than hillbilly. Since he is not, we can say that there is more depth to the game and it is not just about chasing people around loops but also pressure, being able to slug, prolonging the game, and mobility also matter.
True is not competitive, he refuses to play tactically and that hurts him a lot in some games, I still watch him from time to time
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@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
@Why_Are_You_Salty said:
@Master said:
@Why_Are_You_Salty said:
@Delfador said:
@Why_Are_You_Salty said:
@Master said:
@Why_Are_You_Salty said:
@Master said:
Clown above billy? Are you insane?
Hag is below billy too if you ask me (at least against competent teams)Well to be honest I had no intent of just making a tier list I had the intent of making people mad about my placements because of Spirit being mid tier and everyone else where the majority don't think they should be. What can I say I love salt.
The spirit? I already forgot about her, no need to bother anymore since she will dissapear like clown did (top tier btw cough cough
)and this is what I love salt salt salt more please. Spirit is a mid tier killer if played right she is JUST meant to be for transportation and mindgames that's it and Clown is top tier because he slows and can force pallets down and counter looping where as Billy can't counter looping. Mobility doesn't instantly make a killer top tier or low tier it's if the power helps in a chase and I see Clown being more useful in a chase than Billy.
The reason why you think in this way is because you are not very experienced.
This game was never about dull chasing. One mistake against a hillbilly will ensure 1 hit down. Because of his chainsaw and 1 hit ability, he is able to slug and prolong the game. Because he has his mobility, you are never safe and one mistake you make against him can ensure 4k and this goes on like this. He has moments where he wins the game and snowball effect.
Watch Zubat and you will understand why hillbilly is more powerful than any other killer except for nurse.
I am experienced I don't know how many hours I have since you can't check on console, but I judge killers based off of how well they do in a chase Billy is still top tier with his mobility and insta down, but he can't stop loops and force pallets like Clown can you're entitled to your opinion and how you judge killers, but I judge killers based off of how well they do in chases like how Tru3ta1ent bases his opinion off of how well the killer counters looping and how Bricky another streamer who frequently streams dbd bases his off of if the power helps in a chase. I'm learning to play Billy right now because Hag I need better perks for and Clown I haven't bothered to level him up yet. Keep in mind that this is my opinion if you think Billy is better than anyone else besides Nurse that's your opinion. I just base off of how the power helps in a chase.
I would like to see gameplay footage featuring a clown stopping a competent SWF from looping and doing gens. I know that you cant provide such footage because it doesnt exist, but maybe you can surprised me.
I am waiting
Oh and btw, truetalent indeed bases his opinion about the ability how to perform in chase AND map control. He would never put clown into top tier
Tru3 has said multiple times in some highlight videos that he thinks Clown is 3rd best in the game... which makes him top tier in his opinion... maybe watch a few of his highlight videos against Clown.
Link me footage of a clown doin well against a competent SWF.
True never plays SWF btw, if you watched him, then you would know thatimplying people just have videos saved of killers doing well against certain conditions. what a joke of a request.
All twitch streamers and youtubers save their videos online. This is nowadays society, thats not a joke, you can actually look up every second.
Usually I hear stuff like "XYZ" does really well with this killer, but when you ask for example footage playing against competent survivors, they are never able to provide itbecause scouring through hundreds and hundreds of hours of footage is still a reasonable request, lol.
If you have seen something on a stream in the last couple of days, the human brain is able to remember on what day and the rough time this happened. And as you see, OP actually was able to provide a link, even though it proves my statement tbh, i explained that above
"dead by daylight" "clown" "tru3" wouldn't have exactly been a hard thing to search for
Uhm yeah and it proves my point.
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@Ammar said:
Hello, I would like to say something in ps4 when I have playstaiton plus on my account I can not get any killers or anything on another account says "Try it online!" and when I go to my main account, it says. Nothing only buy or overview am not sure if this is a bug or glitch. Thank you.No, but you get a few extra killers more than PC, I think it was hag.
The other DLC killers you have to buy, but you really dont need to because the only viable ones are free to play anyway -
Uno calzone pls
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@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
@Why_Are_You_Salty said:
@Master said:
@Why_Are_You_Salty said:
@Delfador said:
@Why_Are_You_Salty said:
@Master said:
@Why_Are_You_Salty said:
@Master said:
Clown above billy? Are you insane?
Hag is below billy too if you ask me (at least against competent teams)Well to be honest I had no intent of just making a tier list I had the intent of making people mad about my placements because of Spirit being mid tier and everyone else where the majority don't think they should be. What can I say I love salt.
The spirit? I already forgot about her, no need to bother anymore since she will dissapear like clown did (top tier btw cough cough
)and this is what I love salt salt salt more please. Spirit is a mid tier killer if played right she is JUST meant to be for transportation and mindgames that's it and Clown is top tier because he slows and can force pallets down and counter looping where as Billy can't counter looping. Mobility doesn't instantly make a killer top tier or low tier it's if the power helps in a chase and I see Clown being more useful in a chase than Billy.
The reason why you think in this way is because you are not very experienced.
This game was never about dull chasing. One mistake against a hillbilly will ensure 1 hit down. Because of his chainsaw and 1 hit ability, he is able to slug and prolong the game. Because he has his mobility, you are never safe and one mistake you make against him can ensure 4k and this goes on like this. He has moments where he wins the game and snowball effect.
Watch Zubat and you will understand why hillbilly is more powerful than any other killer except for nurse.
I am experienced I don't know how many hours I have since you can't check on console, but I judge killers based off of how well they do in a chase Billy is still top tier with his mobility and insta down, but he can't stop loops and force pallets like Clown can you're entitled to your opinion and how you judge killers, but I judge killers based off of how well they do in chases like how Tru3ta1ent bases his opinion off of how well the killer counters looping and how Bricky another streamer who frequently streams dbd bases his off of if the power helps in a chase. I'm learning to play Billy right now because Hag I need better perks for and Clown I haven't bothered to level him up yet. Keep in mind that this is my opinion if you think Billy is better than anyone else besides Nurse that's your opinion. I just base off of how the power helps in a chase.
I would like to see gameplay footage featuring a clown stopping a competent SWF from looping and doing gens. I know that you cant provide such footage because it doesnt exist, but maybe you can surprised me.
I am waiting
Oh and btw, truetalent indeed bases his opinion about the ability how to perform in chase AND map control. He would never put clown into top tier
Tru3 has said multiple times in some highlight videos that he thinks Clown is 3rd best in the game... which makes him top tier in his opinion... maybe watch a few of his highlight videos against Clown.
Link me footage of a clown doin well against a competent SWF.
True never plays SWF btw, if you watched him, then you would know thatimplying people just have videos saved of killers doing well against certain conditions. what a joke of a request.
All twitch streamers and youtubers save their videos online. This is nowadays society, thats not a joke, you can actually look up every second.
Usually I hear stuff like "XYZ" does really well with this killer, but when you ask for example footage playing against competent survivors, they are never able to provide itbecause scouring through hundreds and hundreds of hours of footage is still a reasonable request, lol.
If you have seen something on a stream in the last couple of days, the human brain is able to remember on what day and the rough time this happened. And as you see, OP actually was able to provide a link, even though it proves my statement tbh, i explained that above
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@Why_Are_You_Salty said:
@Master said:
@Why_Are_You_Salty said:
@Master said:
@Why_Are_You_Salty said:
@Delfador said:
@Why_Are_You_Salty said:
@Master said:
@Why_Are_You_Salty said:
@Master said:
Clown above billy? Are you insane?
Hag is below billy too if you ask me (at least against competent teams)Well to be honest I had no intent of just making a tier list I had the intent of making people mad about my placements because of Spirit being mid tier and everyone else where the majority don't think they should be. What can I say I love salt.
The spirit? I already forgot about her, no need to bother anymore since she will dissapear like clown did (top tier btw cough cough
)and this is what I love salt salt salt more please. Spirit is a mid tier killer if played right she is JUST meant to be for transportation and mindgames that's it and Clown is top tier because he slows and can force pallets down and counter looping where as Billy can't counter looping. Mobility doesn't instantly make a killer top tier or low tier it's if the power helps in a chase and I see Clown being more useful in a chase than Billy.
The reason why you think in this way is because you are not very experienced.
This game was never about dull chasing. One mistake against a hillbilly will ensure 1 hit down. Because of his chainsaw and 1 hit ability, he is able to slug and prolong the game. Because he has his mobility, you are never safe and one mistake you make against him can ensure 4k and this goes on like this. He has moments where he wins the game and snowball effect.
Watch Zubat and you will understand why hillbilly is more powerful than any other killer except for nurse.
I am experienced I don't know how many hours I have since you can't check on console, but I judge killers based off of how well they do in a chase Billy is still top tier with his mobility and insta down, but he can't stop loops and force pallets like Clown can you're entitled to your opinion and how you judge killers, but I judge killers based off of how well they do in chases like how Tru3ta1ent bases his opinion off of how well the killer counters looping and how Bricky another streamer who frequently streams dbd bases his off of if the power helps in a chase. I'm learning to play Billy right now because Hag I need better perks for and Clown I haven't bothered to level him up yet. Keep in mind that this is my opinion if you think Billy is better than anyone else besides Nurse that's your opinion. I just base off of how the power helps in a chase.
I would like to see gameplay footage featuring a clown stopping a competent SWF from looping and doing gens. I know that you cant provide such footage because it doesnt exist, but maybe you can surprised me.
I am waiting
Oh and btw, truetalent indeed bases his opinion about the ability how to perform in chase AND map control. He would never put clown into top tier
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Tru3 has said multiple times in some highlight videos that he thinks Clown is 3rd best in the game... which makes him top tier in his opinion... maybe watch a few of his highlight videos against Clown.Link me footage of a clown doin well against a competent SWF.
True never plays SWF btw, if you watched him, then you would know that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjoGVaA9IiY
He loses 1, but even a good killer doesn't always 4k plus she had DS so she would have gotten away anyway, but you're gonna say that he's not top tier because you're salty about my opinion and that it wasn't a 4k.Of course I am salty, ever looked at my post number?
Ok lets talk about the game, first of all, the game, best map for killers, just noting that here.
Ruin stays up, lucky for him
First hook after 3 gens while survivors are powering through ruin. Imagine if that girl had DS, RIP all momentum.
Ruin gone shortly after he managed the hook. Now a survivor unhooks his mate in front of true (how is that optimal play please`), he doesnt even have BT.Farmed survivor goes down in a few seconds
True explains going for DS would have been a bad choice (2 gens left), now imagine if all used DS.
Now true uses gas to block of one loop, survivor simply switches the loop and he cant do anything. He is getting frustrated already.
Luckily nea appears, true follows her to the hook where she unhooks the poor guy from the beginning for the second time in front of the killer (at least bodyblock this time)
All 4 survivors are running around the kate who will be dead on hook now instead of doing the last gen. At this time if they werent over altruistic, they could have easily done the last gen and opened gates already.
7 minutes into the game true gets his first kill (tunneling, a survivor would say). Others could have escaped already if they wanted to.
Btw I love how true gets lost on this map, happens to me too
True about to lose his mind while searching for a hook and geting DSed
9:30, finally survivors realized they need to do the last gen if they dont all wanna die.
Dwight dies at unsafe pallet. True is hooking him, gates should be open now already.
Again nea trying to safe in front of the killer, changes mind last second and goes down due to ultra rare addon.
True "shouting" annoyed "this is what the clown needs as a base kit for high rank" (ultra rare addon insta down addon)
Meanwhile dwight is suiciding on hook.
Last DS guy leaves
Ok, lets summarize.
True mentioned several times how frustrating that game was (playing clown on a rlly good map with ultra rare insta down against non optimal SWF), he even said he would gonna play nurse after this match (the real top tier killer btw)
Imagine how this game would have turned out when the survivors didnt circle true like idiots and did gens instead. He would have gotten 1 kill MAX and this is exactly why clown is not top tier and I am pretty sure that true would agree with me after this gameAnd as a side node. Bamboozle is still on lvl 2, I assume this video is still relatively shortly after the clowns release so the survivors might have even adapted more now.
I am pretty sure that I watched this game live btw, this and a few others caused me not to buy clown
Appreciate that you at least linked sth^^
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@Der_Schatten said:
@MinusTheBillie said:
I assume the hook is your natural habitat.XD made my day
But a Camping Wraith its a Shame to me... as a Wraith main. Wraith is so much stronger without Camping -_-
But it looks like 80% of the Killers (ps4) are Camping cuz they are:- too Lazy
- too weak
- too scared
- too angry/pissed
Damn Killers... Why you s*ck so hard? Being a Killer is so good damn EZ. And i main Wraith... the weakest (besides Freddy) of them all.
Really?
I found wraith extremely difficult against competent survivors and everytime I faced a SWF with flashlight I was tempted really hard to DC, but then I am not a wraith main either....Killers have it a lot harder on console due to console aim and low fps, 360ing is a major issue for console killers from what ive seen so far: I cant blame them for reacting in this way
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@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
@Why_Are_You_Salty said:
@Master said:
@Why_Are_You_Salty said:
@Delfador said:
@Why_Are_You_Salty said:
@Master said:
@Why_Are_You_Salty said:
@Master said:
Clown above billy? Are you insane?
Hag is below billy too if you ask me (at least against competent teams)Well to be honest I had no intent of just making a tier list I had the intent of making people mad about my placements because of Spirit being mid tier and everyone else where the majority don't think they should be. What can I say I love salt.
The spirit? I already forgot about her, no need to bother anymore since she will dissapear like clown did (top tier btw cough cough
)and this is what I love salt salt salt more please. Spirit is a mid tier killer if played right she is JUST meant to be for transportation and mindgames that's it and Clown is top tier because he slows and can force pallets down and counter looping where as Billy can't counter looping. Mobility doesn't instantly make a killer top tier or low tier it's if the power helps in a chase and I see Clown being more useful in a chase than Billy.
The reason why you think in this way is because you are not very experienced.
This game was never about dull chasing. One mistake against a hillbilly will ensure 1 hit down. Because of his chainsaw and 1 hit ability, he is able to slug and prolong the game. Because he has his mobility, you are never safe and one mistake you make against him can ensure 4k and this goes on like this. He has moments where he wins the game and snowball effect.
Watch Zubat and you will understand why hillbilly is more powerful than any other killer except for nurse.
I am experienced I don't know how many hours I have since you can't check on console, but I judge killers based off of how well they do in a chase Billy is still top tier with his mobility and insta down, but he can't stop loops and force pallets like Clown can you're entitled to your opinion and how you judge killers, but I judge killers based off of how well they do in chases like how Tru3ta1ent bases his opinion off of how well the killer counters looping and how Bricky another streamer who frequently streams dbd bases his off of if the power helps in a chase. I'm learning to play Billy right now because Hag I need better perks for and Clown I haven't bothered to level him up yet. Keep in mind that this is my opinion if you think Billy is better than anyone else besides Nurse that's your opinion. I just base off of how the power helps in a chase.
I would like to see gameplay footage featuring a clown stopping a competent SWF from looping and doing gens. I know that you cant provide such footage because it doesnt exist, but maybe you can surprised me.
I am waiting
Oh and btw, truetalent indeed bases his opinion about the ability how to perform in chase AND map control. He would never put clown into top tier
Tru3 has said multiple times in some highlight videos that he thinks Clown is 3rd best in the game... which makes him top tier in his opinion... maybe watch a few of his highlight videos against Clown.
Link me footage of a clown doin well against a competent SWF.
True never plays SWF btw, if you watched him, then you would know thatimplying people just have videos saved of killers doing well against certain conditions. what a joke of a request.
All twitch streamers and youtubers save their videos online. This is nowadays society, thats not a joke, you can actually look up every second.
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@Vietfox said:
Master said:@Vietfox said:
FrenziedRoach said:
@Vietfox said: Giche said:
@Vietfox There is nothing to discuss. This is exploiting a weakness in the game. This is cheesy and toxic, why do you defend this ? Cause "promotes" lobby dodging. Not being able to see each other would be way simpler and faster.
I personally never do it, i set my loadout before looking for a lobby and press ready when i get there, but i understand why some people do it. Lobby dodging wouldn't be a thing if certain mechanics weren't so blue-ball frustrating to deal with. Lobby dodging is just a symptom of a much larger issue... one that the devs thankfully seem to be aware of, even if they are slow at finding a solution. Frustration is a subjective feeling, some people need to tell the difference between something being annoying and broken.
I've been kicked from lobby many times because one of us equipped a SINGLE flashlight, 2 toolboxes... Sorry for using tools provided by the game lol.
When an ingame item can cause IRL inconvenience or even pain (in some cases), then its time to dodge the lobby. This is a game and I dont want to suffer just because I picked killer
SWF with flashlight+2 boxes is an auto dodge from me too if I play in highish ranks. (I dont play meta killers though)
Cause IRL inconvenience or pain? A game?
Sort out your priorities mates @Master @GichePriorities? What do you mean?
It is inconvenient indeed when a monitor is bright white flashing at you (especially if in a dark room) and if you are light sensitive, this actually causes real pain. We already had a few threads about this -
You are most likely low rank.
There are no players below rank 15 anymore due to a weird decision from the devs.Rank up a bit and you should be fine
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@Grey87 said:
@Circlesho said:
Premonition trumps any of the killer's stealth abilities so yeahNot MM EW1 tho
wow I just looked this up and its actually true. Even after that many hours of DBD I can still be surprised. I never noticed that and I actively ran premonition in the freddy time.... guess MM is played too rarely
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@Why_Are_You_Salty said:
@Master said:
@Why_Are_You_Salty said:
@Delfador said:
@Why_Are_You_Salty said:
@Master said:
@Why_Are_You_Salty said:
@Master said:
Clown above billy? Are you insane?
Hag is below billy too if you ask me (at least against competent teams)Well to be honest I had no intent of just making a tier list I had the intent of making people mad about my placements because of Spirit being mid tier and everyone else where the majority don't think they should be. What can I say I love salt.
The spirit? I already forgot about her, no need to bother anymore since she will dissapear like clown did (top tier btw cough cough
)and this is what I love salt salt salt more please. Spirit is a mid tier killer if played right she is JUST meant to be for transportation and mindgames that's it and Clown is top tier because he slows and can force pallets down and counter looping where as Billy can't counter looping. Mobility doesn't instantly make a killer top tier or low tier it's if the power helps in a chase and I see Clown being more useful in a chase than Billy.
The reason why you think in this way is because you are not very experienced.
This game was never about dull chasing. One mistake against a hillbilly will ensure 1 hit down. Because of his chainsaw and 1 hit ability, he is able to slug and prolong the game. Because he has his mobility, you are never safe and one mistake you make against him can ensure 4k and this goes on like this. He has moments where he wins the game and snowball effect.
Watch Zubat and you will understand why hillbilly is more powerful than any other killer except for nurse.
I am experienced I don't know how many hours I have since you can't check on console, but I judge killers based off of how well they do in a chase Billy is still top tier with his mobility and insta down, but he can't stop loops and force pallets like Clown can you're entitled to your opinion and how you judge killers, but I judge killers based off of how well they do in chases like how Tru3ta1ent bases his opinion off of how well the killer counters looping and how Bricky another streamer who frequently streams dbd bases his off of if the power helps in a chase. I'm learning to play Billy right now because Hag I need better perks for and Clown I haven't bothered to level him up yet. Keep in mind that this is my opinion if you think Billy is better than anyone else besides Nurse that's your opinion. I just base off of how the power helps in a chase.
I would like to see gameplay footage featuring a clown stopping a competent SWF from looping and doing gens. I know that you cant provide such footage because it doesnt exist, but maybe you can surprised me.
I am waiting
Oh and btw, truetalent indeed bases his opinion about the ability how to perform in chase AND map control. He would never put clown into top tier
Tru3 has said multiple times in some highlight videos that he thinks Clown is 3rd best in the game... which makes him top tier in his opinion... maybe watch a few of his highlight videos against Clown.
Link me footage of a clown doin well against a competent SWF.
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@Kebek said:
10-20% baseline chance on when disarming trap to injure survivors with possibility to down survivor if he was already injured when disarming it.I dislike RNG, there must be a better way
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Never occured to me. Sounds like a bug
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@Vietfox said:
FrenziedRoach said:@Vietfox said:
Giche said:
@Vietfox There is nothing to discuss. This is exploiting a weakness in the game. This is cheesy and toxic, why do you defend this ? Cause "promotes" lobby dodging. Not being able to see each other would be way simpler and faster.
I personally never do it, i set my loadout before looking for a lobby and press ready when i get there, but i understand why some people do it.
Lobby dodging wouldn't be a thing if certain mechanics weren't so blue-ball frustrating to deal with.
Lobby dodging is just a symptom of a much larger issue... one that the devs thankfully seem to be aware of, even if they are slow at finding a solution.
Frustration is a subjective feeling, some people need to tell the difference between something being annoying and broken.
I've been kicked from lobby many times because one of us equipped a SINGLE flashlight, 2 toolboxes... Sorry for using tools provided by the game lol.When an ingame item can cause IRL inconvenience or even pain (in some cases), then its time to dodge the lobby. This is a game and I dont want to suffer just because I picked killer
SWF with flashlight+2 boxes is an auto dodge from me too if I play in highish ranks. (I dont play meta killers though)
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@Vankruze said:
Yeah believe me we ALL want something to be done about this, perhaps if we keep banging on the door somebody will have to answer eventually!! Punishment for excessive DC's is a must!I dont think that every survivor would agree with you.
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@Babatom said:
I can't decide whether to continue the bloodwebs of my level 50s to get all of the perks, or to prestige them. I know prestiging apparently gives better items but is this actually the case or a complete myth?With the cosmetic store, I'm not interested in collecting the bloody gear, so is there any point in me prestiging?
Its not worth. But if you put enough time into the game and like the grind, then do it.
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@Why_Are_You_Salty said:
@Delfador said:
@Why_Are_You_Salty said:
@Master said:
@Why_Are_You_Salty said:
@Master said:
Clown above billy? Are you insane?
Hag is below billy too if you ask me (at least against competent teams)Well to be honest I had no intent of just making a tier list I had the intent of making people mad about my placements because of Spirit being mid tier and everyone else where the majority don't think they should be. What can I say I love salt.
The spirit? I already forgot about her, no need to bother anymore since she will dissapear like clown did (top tier btw cough cough
)and this is what I love salt salt salt more please. Spirit is a mid tier killer if played right she is JUST meant to be for transportation and mindgames that's it and Clown is top tier because he slows and can force pallets down and counter looping where as Billy can't counter looping. Mobility doesn't instantly make a killer top tier or low tier it's if the power helps in a chase and I see Clown being more useful in a chase than Billy.
The reason why you think in this way is because you are not very experienced.
This game was never about dull chasing. One mistake against a hillbilly will ensure 1 hit down. Because of his chainsaw and 1 hit ability, he is able to slug and prolong the game. Because he has his mobility, you are never safe and one mistake you make against him can ensure 4k and this goes on like this. He has moments where he wins the game and snowball effect.
Watch Zubat and you will understand why hillbilly is more powerful than any other killer except for nurse.
I am experienced I don't know how many hours I have since you can't check on console, but I judge killers based off of how well they do in a chase Billy is still top tier with his mobility and insta down, but he can't stop loops and force pallets like Clown can you're entitled to your opinion and how you judge killers, but I judge killers based off of how well they do in chases like how Tru3ta1ent bases his opinion off of how well the killer counters looping and how Bricky another streamer who frequently streams dbd bases his off of if the power helps in a chase. I'm learning to play Billy right now because Hag I need better perks for and Clown I haven't bothered to level him up yet. Keep in mind that this is my opinion if you think Billy is better than anyone else besides Nurse that's your opinion. I just base off of how the power helps in a chase.
I would like to see gameplay footage featuring a clown stopping a competent SWF from looping and doing gens. I know that you cant provide such footage because it doesnt exist, but maybe you can surprised me.
I am waiting
Oh and btw, truetalent indeed bases his opinion about the ability how to perform in chase AND map control. He would never put clown into top tier
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It actually isnt a problem. Just dodge the lobby if the plebs are not ready at the 10 sec mark
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@redsopine1 said:
Hence mute button lol the proxy records chats used your toxic you get a ban or just let the killer be able to talk while hunting and can only talk to a survivor when being carried or hooked I mean id be talking to the person as I carry them and ask permission to minor camp for a funny conversation with them while survivors can chat and be heard if I'm close but only like 5-10 meters away which is like standard chasing range anywayBann for toxicity, sure....
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@Why_Are_You_Salty said:
@Master said:
@Why_Are_You_Salty said:
@Master said:
Clown above billy? Are you insane?
Hag is below billy too if you ask me (at least against competent teams)Well to be honest I had no intent of just making a tier list I had the intent of making people mad about my placements because of Spirit being mid tier and everyone else where the majority don't think they should be. What can I say I love salt.
The spirit? I already forgot about her, no need to bother anymore since she will dissapear like clown did (top tier btw cough cough
)and this is what I love salt salt salt more please. Spirit is a mid tier killer if played right she is JUST meant to be for transportation and mindgames that's it and Clown is top tier because he slows and can force pallets down and counter looping where as Billy can't counter looping. Mobility doesn't instantly make a killer top tier or low tier it's if the power helps in a chase and I see Clown being more useful in a chase than Billy.
Interesting, as you said, spirit is all about mindgames. But then you have to realize that the mindgame has 20 sec cooldown and survivors will fall for mindgames less if you rank up. After you faileld your mindgame (the hardest thign in the game now, even harder than nurse), you are a 110% killer for 20 sec.
That simply is not viable.You cant use her power for transportation either because if you "transported" yourself to the area where the survivor is, then you are a 110% killer again that gets looped into oblivion.
Ever played a hag or a huntress game without her M2 power? Do that as a challengeMobility is key in a game where the gens can easily be knocked out in less than 5 minutes and this is the reason why everybody plays nurse and billy on high ranks / somtimes hag now. Billy and nurse can effectively apply pressure after hooking someone because they can patrol the hook in a wider circle while the clown has to stay really close if he doesnt want to give away a free unhook
Even though clown can slow, survivors can simply switch the loop and prolong the chase long enough. Billy has an insta down.
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@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@RSB said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@RSB said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@RSB said:
@Grey87 said:
Ya got the reply you deserved.
If the person replying to you could do it then they would have said "f*** you" as well.
You should "git gud" and stop begging for ez no challenge gameplay.So this thread https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/16115/i-beg-you-devs-buff-that-killer/p1 and replies in it were so much toxic, that his reply was OK?
If you say yes - you are a biased surv, one of the mass of toxic survs in this game.
Well to be honest, if you put weeks or months of hard work into content for people to test it IN A BETA BY THE WAY and call it trash after two hours it must be incredibly frustrating.
Killers are just as toxic as survivor, they think every killer should be able to 4K the second they come out - and if they have a bad match it's trash. no one can master a killer in two hours- there were multiple posts 2 hours after the beta went live of obvious killer mains demanding buffs, demanding changes, AFTER TWO hours, it's ridiculous.
Nobody called her trash, but trash tier, and that is the difference, please do not twist the words.
They months of work in Freddy as well, and we all know what happend to him. Despite reasonable people were telling the devs he is quite weak, they listened to the bunch of crying survivors.
Now, even those crying survivors are not crying over her, and that tells us something. The devs do not know their own game, sadly, so what can we else do, if not stop buying their products?
Or maybe survivor aren't crying about her because they aren't playing against people who are good with her. It's almost as if you have to learn her before you become amazing with her, lmfao.
"reasonable people" don't make me laugh. Survivors make ######### posts moaning about this and that, and killers make ######### posts moaning about this and that. No one really has a conversation anymore.
I read your thread, the amount of "buffs" you want it absolutely stupid. Being able to see survivors and instantly come out of invisibility and slash would be ridiculously overpowered, but obviously you'd think this would be balanced as it was your recommendation, right?
If blood is always visible, survivors wont ever break line of sight, you know - that thing killers always say "you don't have to loop you could just break line of sight" that's entirely gone with lit up blood.
"decrease her cooldown by ten seconds" omfg, the less you use the ability the less it needs to charge,use it wiselesy and when you need to, making her ability recharge in 10 seconds would have her going to every gen in the map within seconds, also coupled wth being able to see people would just be insane, I dont understand how any of you people think this stuff would be fair or balanced.
Oh, you went a full strawboi argument, how nice. Aren't you one of those whining survivors? Because I was replaying to you in non aggresive way, and you jumped on me, as if I insulted you in any manner.
At leas do not twist my words, leanr how to play with her and maybe you can come back here and whine again, survboi.
Btw. I just can;t believe why aren;t you whining about nNurse being able to use her power once for 2-3 seconds, depending on the stun. "SO OVERPOWRD, SHE CAN USE HER POWR"
I 4K constantly with the nurse and feel shes pretty overpowered. I play both sides, always have, always will. I have 2200 hours in the game and every achievement. I like to think, as someone who plays both sides, I'm very unbiased.
What even is "strawboi argument". Nah, not really a whiner, I think both sides need to stop crying constantly and just get better at the game - like I said, people spend too much time on these forums hours at a time whinging and moaning instead of actually playing the game and getting better at it.
I didn't twist an words - and I absolutely have the intention of learning how to play her because I thought she was fun with the time I had with her. I'm certainly not going to sit here and demand buffs that'll make her 4K every game like all those bad killers do when they fail to grasp her abilities unique traits and crumple under a 4man swf. lul.
Aha so you have 2200 hours. Of course you will do very well against some 500 hour average survivors who made it to rank 1 because of the broken ranking system. Btw, I got rank 1 in my first month ranking up my survivor, I bet I wouldnt have stand a chance against your nurse but that doesnt mean that she is OP
But once you verse a SWF of equal skill, things will look differently, we have seen that in the official tournamentWell every survivor in rank one must be a 500 hour player that everyone can beat then, so why is everyone complaining killer is so hard when it's just noobs in rank one? Should be 4King every match... or killers that whine aren't as good as they think they are?
A single game where you are bullied is enough to make playing killer a completely turn off.
As I said, you depend on the survivors skill to win the game and that is ridiculous design.
After being bullied by a SWF I usually take a break and think about what I could have done better.I have a nice comparison here. I started playing Dirt rally because DBD got so frustrating and I realized that dirt rally is even more frustrating. But the difference is, in dirt rally I know thats it my fault that I crashed into that tree. I can improve and next time I will crash into a wall 100 meter further on the track
In DBD however, there are scenarios where you simply cant do anything (excluding nurse btw).
This is the difference between a game that is just frustrating to play and a game that is frustrating to play in a good way, i.e. it gives you room to improve.The official tournament how reliant non-nurse killers are on survivors mistakes and that is indeed a problem in this game. Sure, in lower ranks and even at rank 1 (thx for meaningless matchmaking btw) you sometimes face survivors that have absolutely no clue about the game and you 4k.
I even had a rank 1 survivor blaming me for speedhacking as wraith because I used windstorm addons he didnt even know about. This is how easy it is to reach the highest rank in DBD. (imagine reachign grand master in another competitive game, its a joke)
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@Why_Are_You_Salty said:
@Master said:
Clown above billy? Are you insane?
Hag is below billy too if you ask me (at least against competent teams)Well to be honest I had no intent of just making a tier list I had the intent of making people mad about my placements because of Spirit being mid tier and everyone else where the majority don't think they should be. What can I say I love salt.
The spirit? I already forgot about her, no need to bother anymore since she will dissapear like clown did (top tier btw cough cough
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We have told the devs countless of times now, but nothing is happening.
There is an autmatic system that will trigger if your DC rate suceeds 80% or sth like that (we dont have actual numbers but the rate has to be high AF) then you will receive a soft banThis is the reason why DCs happen pretty much every 2nd game
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Would be fun yeah.... IF the community wasnt toxic AF
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@GreySin said:
Email is dead and the forum doesn't have any guidelinesYou use the ingame report function (thumbs down) and provide video proof of your accusations (youtube link)
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@Tsulan said:
Maybe play killer or civ?
If you play killer, you (probably) won't get camped.
Also you can play exactly as you see fit. You can leave the hook and give survivors all the chances they ask for.
See how that works out for you.Sadly that happens quite frequently.
There are some weird survivors with bouncing spider legs around them that camp me while blinking with a flashlight at me. That really makes you reconsider what you understand when talking about "horror games" -
Clown above billy? Are you insane?
Hag is below billy too if you ask me (at least against competent teams)