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  • @SenzuDuck said:

    @RSB said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @RSB said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @RSB said:

    @Grey87 said:
    Ya got the reply you deserved.
    If the person replying to you could do it then they would have said "f*** you" as well.
    You should "git gud" and stop begging for ez no challenge gameplay.

    So this thread https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/16115/i-beg-you-devs-buff-that-killer/p1 and replies in it were so much toxic, that his reply was OK?

    If you say yes - you are a biased surv, one of the mass of toxic survs in this game.

    Well to be honest, if you put weeks or months of hard work into content for people to test it IN A BETA BY THE WAY and call it trash after two hours it must be incredibly frustrating.

    Killers are just as toxic as survivor, they think every killer should be able to 4K the second they come out - and if they have a bad match it's trash. no one can master a killer in two hours- there were multiple posts 2 hours after the beta went live of obvious killer mains demanding buffs, demanding changes, AFTER TWO hours, it's ridiculous.

    Nobody called her trash, but trash tier, and that is the difference, please do not twist the words.

    They months of work in Freddy as well, and we all know what happend to him. Despite reasonable people were telling the devs he is quite weak, they listened to the bunch of crying survivors.

    Now, even those crying survivors are not crying over her, and that tells us something. The devs do not know their own game, sadly, so what can we else do, if not stop buying their products?

    Or maybe survivor aren't crying about her because they aren't playing against people who are good with her. It's almost as if you have to learn her before you become amazing with her, lmfao.

    "reasonable people" don't make me laugh. Survivors make ######### posts moaning about this and that, and killers make ######### posts moaning about this and that. No one really has a conversation anymore.

    I read your thread, the amount of "buffs" you want it absolutely stupid. Being able to see survivors and instantly come out of invisibility and slash would be ridiculously overpowered, but obviously you'd think this would be balanced as it was your recommendation, right?

    If blood is always visible, survivors wont ever break line of sight, you know - that thing killers always say "you don't have to loop you could just break line of sight" that's entirely gone with lit up blood.

    "decrease her cooldown by ten seconds" omfg, the less you use the ability the less it needs to charge,use it wiselesy and when you need to, making her ability recharge in 10 seconds would have her going to every gen in the map within seconds, also coupled wth being able to see people would just be insane, I dont understand how any of you people think this stuff would be fair or balanced.

    Oh, you went a full strawboi argument, how nice. Aren't you one of those whining survivors? Because I was replaying to you in non aggresive way, and you jumped on me, as if I insulted you in any manner.

    At leas do not twist my words, leanr how to play with her and maybe you can come back here and whine again, survboi.

    Btw. I just can;t believe why aren;t you whining about nNurse being able to use her power once for 2-3 seconds, depending on the stun. "SO OVERPOWRD, SHE CAN USE HER POWR"

    I 4K constantly with the nurse and feel shes pretty overpowered. I play both sides, always have, always will. I have 2200 hours in the game and every achievement. I like to think, as someone who plays both sides, I'm very unbiased.

    What even is "strawboi argument". Nah, not really a whiner, I think both sides need to stop crying constantly and just get better at the game - like I said, people spend too much time on these forums hours at a time whinging and moaning instead of actually playing the game and getting better at it.

    I didn't twist an words - and I absolutely have the intention of learning how to play her because I thought she was fun with the time I had with her. I'm certainly not going to sit here and demand buffs that'll make her 4K every game like all those bad killers do when they fail to grasp her abilities unique traits and crumple under a 4man swf. lul.

    Aha so you have 2200 hours. Of course you will do very well against some 500 hour average survivors who made it to rank 1 because of the broken ranking system. Btw, I got rank 1 in my first month ranking up my survivor, I bet I wouldnt have stand a chance against your nurse but that doesnt mean that she is OP :wink:
    But once you verse a SWF of equal skill, things will look differently, we have seen that in the official tournament :wink:

  • @SenzuDuck said:

    @Master said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Master said:

    @Sleepy said:
    I've noticed lately on the forums that surprise surprise, opinions have changed regarding the new killer. People went from saying "she's OP, she's great" to "she's weak" and that she needs changes.

    I don't understand what the point is in making a feedback sub forum if the devs will literally say that they will not listen to feedback because "it makes the spirit OP".


    This guy must be high.

    So, since the devs clearly do not give one single [BAD WORD] about our opinion, let's also not give a single [BAD WORD] about their DLC.

    Please, folks, let's vote with our wallets - If this gets deleted or anything REPOST it. Don't let them WIN.

    We give them money, we want the changes we ask for. We're not "entitled whiny brats", we're paying customers who want a product to be a certain way. This is NOT a free DLC. We have a right to complain.

    Insulting the devs wont lead anywhere.
    And you dont have to ask for an boycott, why should I purchase a killer that I cant play anymore if I rank up a bit anyway. I have plenty of such killers already :wink:

    My issue is everyone seems to think they're supposed to be god tier with every killer. It's a ridiculous assumption that because you're good with huntress, doctor, nurse that you'll also be good with the spirit.

    I've seen people absolutely dominate with wraith and freddy while everyone else is moaning about it. Every killer can be good it's just about whose steering.

    I expect that if I start a game with a certain killer that I ALWAYS have the chance to do well, even under competitive circumstances.
    The official tournament made one thing clear, nurse is the only killer that is balance, and I mean balanced how the devs define it, i.e. 2 kill average

    Tournaments are a whole different ball game, literally everyone try harding.
    and i'll say it again - every killer can be good it's whose steering them hat counts. I've seen every kiler 4K at rank 1, I've seen every killer 0K at rank one. IT's the nature of the game, you can't expect to get kills EVERY game theres always going to be some games were the survivors are just better than you and theres nothing you can do about it except get better at the game.

    Honestly, some peoples perception of their own skill is highly exaggerated.

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Master said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Master said:

    @Sleepy said:
    I've noticed lately on the forums that surprise surprise, opinions have changed regarding the new killer. People went from saying "she's OP, she's great" to "she's weak" and that she needs changes.

    I don't understand what the point is in making a feedback sub forum if the devs will literally say that they will not listen to feedback because "it makes the spirit OP".


    This guy must be high.

    So, since the devs clearly do not give one single [BAD WORD] about our opinion, let's also not give a single [BAD WORD] about their DLC.

    Please, folks, let's vote with our wallets - If this gets deleted or anything REPOST it. Don't let them WIN.

    We give them money, we want the changes we ask for. We're not "entitled whiny brats", we're paying customers who want a product to be a certain way. This is NOT a free DLC. We have a right to complain.

    Insulting the devs wont lead anywhere.
    And you dont have to ask for an boycott, why should I purchase a killer that I cant play anymore if I rank up a bit anyway. I have plenty of such killers already :wink:

    My issue is everyone seems to think they're supposed to be god tier with every killer. It's a ridiculous assumption that because you're good with huntress, doctor, nurse that you'll also be good with the spirit.

    I've seen people absolutely dominate with wraith and freddy while everyone else is moaning about it. Every killer can be good it's just about whose steering.

    I expect that if I start a game with a certain killer that I ALWAYS have the chance to do well, even under competitive circumstances.
    The official tournament made one thing clear, nurse is the only killer that is balance, and I mean balanced how the devs define it, i.e. 2 kill average

    Tournaments are a whole different ball game, literally everyone try harding.
    and i'll say it again - every killer can be good it's whose steering them hat counts. I've seen every kiler 4K at rank 1, I've seen every killer 0K at rank one. IT's the nature of the game, you can't expect to get kills EVERY game theres always going to be some games were the survivors are just better than you and theres nothing you can do about it except get better at the game.

    Honestly, some peoples perception of their own skill is highly exaggerated.

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Master said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Master said:

    @Sleepy said:
    I've noticed lately on the forums that surprise surprise, opinions have changed regarding the new killer. People went from saying "she's OP, she's great" to "she's weak" and that she needs changes.

    I don't understand what the point is in making a feedback sub forum if the devs will literally say that they will not listen to feedback because "it makes the spirit OP".


    This guy must be high.

    So, since the devs clearly do not give one single [BAD WORD] about our opinion, let's also not give a single [BAD WORD] about their DLC.

    Please, folks, let's vote with our wallets - If this gets deleted or anything REPOST it. Don't let them WIN.

    We give them money, we want the changes we ask for. We're not "entitled whiny brats", we're paying customers who want a product to be a certain way. This is NOT a free DLC. We have a right to complain.

    Insulting the devs wont lead anywhere.
    And you dont have to ask for an boycott, why should I purchase a killer that I cant play anymore if I rank up a bit anyway. I have plenty of such killers already :wink:

    My issue is everyone seems to think they're supposed to be god tier with every killer. It's a ridiculous assumption that because you're good with huntress, doctor, nurse that you'll also be good with the spirit.

    I've seen people absolutely dominate with wraith and freddy while everyone else is moaning about it. Every killer can be good it's just about whose steering.

    I expect that if I start a game with a certain killer that I ALWAYS have the chance to do well, even under competitive circumstances.
    The official tournament made one thing clear, nurse is the only killer that is balance, and I mean balanced how the devs define it, i.e. 2 kill average

    Tournaments are a whole different ball game, literally everyone try harding.
    and i'll say it again - every killer can be good it's whose steering them hat counts. I've seen every kiler 4K at rank 1, I've seen every killer 0K at rank one. IT's the nature of the game, you can't expect to get kills EVERY game theres always going to be some games were the survivors are just better than you and theres nothing you can do about it except get better at the game.

    Honestly, some peoples perception of their own skill is highly exaggerated.

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Master said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Master said:

    @Sleepy said:
    I've noticed lately on the forums that surprise surprise, opinions have changed regarding the new killer. People went from saying "she's OP, she's great" to "she's weak" and that she needs changes.

    I don't understand what the point is in making a feedback sub forum if the devs will literally say that they will not listen to feedback because "it makes the spirit OP".


    This guy must be high.

    So, since the devs clearly do not give one single [BAD WORD] about our opinion, let's also not give a single [BAD WORD] about their DLC.

    Please, folks, let's vote with our wallets - If this gets deleted or anything REPOST it. Don't let them WIN.

    We give them money, we want the changes we ask for. We're not "entitled whiny brats", we're paying customers who want a product to be a certain way. This is NOT a free DLC. We have a right to complain.

    Insulting the devs wont lead anywhere.
    And you dont have to ask for an boycott, why should I purchase a killer that I cant play anymore if I rank up a bit anyway. I have plenty of such killers already :wink:

    My issue is everyone seems to think they're supposed to be god tier with every killer. It's a ridiculous assumption that because you're good with huntress, doctor, nurse that you'll also be good with the spirit.

    I've seen people absolutely dominate with wraith and freddy while everyone else is moaning about it. Every killer can be good it's just about whose steering.

    I expect that if I start a game with a certain killer that I ALWAYS have the chance to do well, even under competitive circumstances.
    The official tournament made one thing clear, nurse is the only killer that is balance, and I mean balanced how the devs define it, i.e. 2 kill average

    Tournaments are a whole different ball game, literally everyone try harding.
    and i'll say it again - every killer can be good it's whose steering them hat counts. I've seen every kiler 4K at rank 1, I've seen every killer 0K at rank one. IT's the nature of the game, you can't expect to get kills EVERY game theres always going to be some games were the survivors are just better than you and theres nothing you can do about it except get better at the game.

    Honestly, some peoples perception of their own skill is highly exaggerated.

    Ah now you admit it. It depends whether the survivors tryhard or not and this is exactly what I am talking about.
    WHen I start a game with a certain killer then I expect to stand a chance EVEN against tryharding survivor and that it isnt an auto loss no matter how hard I try or how good I am.

  • I propose that devs work hard to get their 1vs4 balanced first, then we can talk about varying the number of players

  • @YamiTheFurry said:
    Okay so I have a simple question that I can't seem to find the answer to. Does bloundhound work with the spirit when she is invisible? Im talking about the perk not the glitch right now as well. 

    It only works if you run the ultra rare offering that makes blood visible
    Yeah its kinda dissapointing....

  • @SenzuDuck said:

    @Master said:

    @Sleepy said:
    I've noticed lately on the forums that surprise surprise, opinions have changed regarding the new killer. People went from saying "she's OP, she's great" to "she's weak" and that she needs changes.

    I don't understand what the point is in making a feedback sub forum if the devs will literally say that they will not listen to feedback because "it makes the spirit OP".


    This guy must be high.

    So, since the devs clearly do not give one single [BAD WORD] about our opinion, let's also not give a single [BAD WORD] about their DLC.

    Please, folks, let's vote with our wallets - If this gets deleted or anything REPOST it. Don't let them WIN.

    We give them money, we want the changes we ask for. We're not "entitled whiny brats", we're paying customers who want a product to be a certain way. This is NOT a free DLC. We have a right to complain.

    Insulting the devs wont lead anywhere.
    And you dont have to ask for an boycott, why should I purchase a killer that I cant play anymore if I rank up a bit anyway. I have plenty of such killers already :wink:

    My issue is everyone seems to think they're supposed to be god tier with every killer. It's a ridiculous assumption that because you're good with huntress, doctor, nurse that you'll also be good with the spirit.

    I've seen people absolutely dominate with wraith and freddy while everyone else is moaning about it. Every killer can be good it's just about whose steering.

    I expect that if I start a game with a certain killer that I ALWAYS have the chance to do well, even under competitive circumstances.
    The official tournament made one thing clear, nurse is the only killer that is balance, and I mean balanced how the devs define it, i.e. 2 kill average

  • @Usui said:
    Unbreakable is a really really bad perk. Out of 20 games you'll find use out of it maybe 1 time if you're lucky.

    Ubreakable DS combo was considered the best perk loadout by the depip squad and it worked wonder.
    Watch the gameplay if you dont believe me

    No matter what the killer does, you get a free escape

  • @Sleepy said:
    I've noticed lately on the forums that surprise surprise, opinions have changed regarding the new killer. People went from saying "she's OP, she's great" to "she's weak" and that she needs changes.

    I don't understand what the point is in making a feedback sub forum if the devs will literally say that they will not listen to feedback because "it makes the spirit OP".


    This guy must be high.

    So, since the devs clearly do not give one single [BAD WORD] about our opinion, let's also not give a single [BAD WORD] about their DLC.

    Please, folks, let's vote with our wallets - If this gets deleted or anything REPOST it. Don't let them WIN.

    We give them money, we want the changes we ask for. We're not "entitled whiny brats", we're paying customers who want a product to be a certain way. This is NOT a free DLC. We have a right to complain.

    Insulting the devs wont lead anywhere.
    And you dont have to ask for an boycott, why should I purchase a killer that I cant play anymore if I rank up a bit anyway. I have plenty of such killers already :wink:

  • @245_Trioxin said:

    @Master said:
    245_Trioxin said:

    @Mycroft said:

    @245_Trioxin said:

    @Giche said:

    @245_Trioxin said:

    But it's fine when a team of sweat lords team up in Cheat With Friends and stack offerings and coordinate. Yeah, sure.

    This is an incredibly small percentage of SWF players. You can stop now, your arguments have lost all merit.

    Said who ?

    Everyone who played killer more than 30 hours know that you're lying, or ignorant.

    Or both.

    And your wall of text isn't really telling anything, it's like you want the reader to be confused.

    InB4 : "Lul that's because youre too stupid to understand it :DDD"

    Says actual data. If it was that big of a problem, it would absolutely be on the devs radar, and they would do something about it. If it was actually ruining that may matches and destroying killers across the globe, they would have to fix it.

    What of my "wall of text" is confusing? Please elaborate.

    By the way, that's not a wall of text. Paragraphs are separated and punctuation is used. It's actually a pretty easy read.

    I don't stoop to your level of insults. I encourage debate, and I will listen if you can bring me proper arguments. That's where @Mycroft failed. He didn't bring valid arguments.

    Here's a valid argument. A killer has the right to secure a kill in a game where securing a kill is an objective or part of the objective.
    

    Period, point blank. Full stop. Not my concern if the opposition doesn't like it. If they don't like it they play Civ 5.

    I agree with you. I'm not arguing against camping. I found your initial comparison to be weak, so I replied.

    All I am saying is that people have the right to question it, because it's not a good strategy. Then you went into "all survivors" talk, and that's a strawman, so I called it out.

    Generalizations don't work, ever. They just make arguments weak.

    I call it a good strategy if it can deliver  4k because of stupid survivors.
    All you gotta do Iß to estimate the stupidity and act accordingly.
    The ability to adjust your tactics on the fly is what makes you a good killer

    There are moments when it's the killer's best option, and I won't try to take that from anyone. But, I also believe in open dialogue and can understand why people will complain about it or question it's viability.

    Of course I can understand why entitled survivors complain about camping. I dislike being camped too :wink:
    Of course camping is not viable against competitive survivors, but luckily most of the survivors have not (will never) reached that level yet, otherwise the game would be unplayable

  • Selection pattern seems to be all the weak wannabe killers, but maybe that's only the balancing teams fault^^
  • General sections are English only, use the proper sun categpry
    in Dbd Comment by Master
  • Only gay survivors could withstand Kate,  so obviously she is the leader :wink;
  • Soo to truly escape the entity realm you need to live?

    No the entity trolls us all
  • Most likely we will need to buy her
  • @Mycroft said:

    @245_Trioxin said:

    @Giche said:
    @245_Trioxin said:

    But it's fine when a team of sweat lords team up in Cheat With Friends and stack offerings and coordinate. Yeah, sure.

    This is an incredibly small percentage of SWF players. You can stop now, your arguments have lost all merit.

    Said who ?

    Everyone who played killer more than 30 hours know that you're lying, or ignorant.

    Or both.

    And your wall of text isn't really telling anything, it's like you want the reader to be confused.

    InB4 : "Lul that's because youre too stupid to understand it :DDD"

    Says actual data. If it was that big of a problem, it would absolutely be on the devs radar, and they would do something about it. If it was actually ruining that may matches and destroying killers across the globe, they would have to fix it.

    What of my "wall of text" is confusing? Please elaborate.

    By the way, that's not a wall of text. Paragraphs are separated and punctuation is used. It's actually a pretty easy read.

    I don't stoop to your level of insults. I encourage debate, and I will listen if you can bring me proper arguments. That's where @Mycroft failed. He didn't bring valid arguments.

    Here's a valid argument. A killer has the right to secure a kill in a game where securing a kill is an objective or part of the objective.

    Period, point blank. Full stop. Not my concern if the opposition doesn't like it. If they don't like it they play Civ 5.

    I agree with you. I'm not arguing against camping. I found your initial comparison to be weak, so I replied.

    All I am saying is that people have the right to question it, because it's not a good strategy. Then you went into "all survivors" talk, and that's a strawman, so I called it out.

    Generalizations don't work, ever. They just make arguments weak.

    I call it a good strategy if it can deliver  4k because of stupid survivors.
    All you gotta do Iß to estimate the stupidity and act accordingly.
    The ability to adjust your tactics on the fly is what makes you a good killer
  • Not every killer is meant to be viable, that's the devs opinion .
    You just gotta accept it and not buy her to upport this behaviour, maybe they will learn this time 
  • feffrey said:
    Delfador said:

    @Luccimane1 said:
    I have no idea what AFK gen rushing is. How can you play the game while being away from your keyboard. Im not a noob and have over 3k hrs in the game and still dont know what this term/phrase is?

    It is more or less the same thing when you accuse killers to be a tunneler or camper.

    When survivors focus on repairing gens aka doing their objective, killers use this term to insult survivors in a way which doesn't make sense. You can ######### about how fast the games are but blaming survivors is just dumb.

    It is not just killers though. Survivors have their fair amount of nonsense to spit. My favorite is the term 'sweaty' which literally means that the killer tries to win the game. Apparently, it is not a good thing to do because for some reason killers need to provide entertainment for the survivors.

    Edit spelling mistake :(

    what a awful lie lol no survivor acusses a killer of being a sweaty that's absurd....
    stop with the fake nonsense and give the OP facts
    Yeah such a nonsense I've never seen a survivor complaining about tunneling either 
  • Also why cant the devs I dunno with the kyf mode instead of invites lets you play against surves that have beaten you in a game like a revenge rank up
    You can, just add them and have your revenge match 
  • I wish we could talk to the killer if they camp us I mean would.make some funny vids of a casual conversation out of context like * oh my I seem to be stuck can you be a dear and go find someone to help * why yes good chap oh look someone came to help I will go say hi and give them a high five * slaps them * oh my I seems they have fainted from the blood please let me help you up and find someone to help
    If you actually play Dbd you know how voice comms will be "used"
  • I have no idea what AFK gen rushing is. How can you play the game while being away from your keyboard. Im not a noob and have over 3k hrs in the game and still dont know what this term/phrase is?

    I use the term afk rushing gens when I am truly away from my keyboard and only hold my mouse in my hand holding down m1 and occasionally M5 while stretching or eating or sth like this.

    I know it's ridiculous but playing survivor you don't even need the keyboard half of the time 
  • Agreed, but that will never happen
  • Ok i see the tunneling and that's happened to me countless times it can be quite annoying especially when they ignore 3 people rushing past them


    Yeah it sucks when the killer is playing strategically 
  • @Shadoureon said:
    Ive been playing this game since day 1 and it always bothered me why we cant heal to injured state ourselves. As a community we always talk about how camping, tunnelling and looping arent fun and all need to be adressed but how about slugging? I think we should be able to fully heal while in dying state. Its up to the killer to make the choice wether they want to hook you or chase someone else. I dont think the survivor in dieing state should be punished because another survivor shows him/herself allowing the killer to drop you for a chase. The time it takes to get from dying state to injured state should be doubled.

    Some perks could be changed to adjust to this new system.

    Unbreakable
    Past battles have taught you a thing or two about survival. When recovering from the dying state grants the ability to directly go from dying state to full health state once per trial. Increases dying recovery by 15/20/25 %.

    Deerstalker
    Unlocks potential in one's Aura reading ability. Reveals dying Survivors' Auras when standing within 12/24/36 metres. Survivors cannot heal themselves further than 95% of the dying injured state.

    Tenacity wont be changed.

    Cant tell whether serious or trolling

  • @Token_420 said:
    Hi I’m fairly new to this game but I have fallen in love with it the only thing that makes me want to stop playing this game is killers that camp and stand there and watch you die I would like if you could set it to where the sacrificial process would be on halt as long as the killer is in a curtain radius around you that will stop the camping and make a much better and intense gameplay 

    That idea was tried already and survivors abused it.
    My suggestion is that once you are tired of being camped, you switch to killer and play the game this way.

  • Now you never do it again, unless you like feeling the unbalance :wink:

  • @walrusthemighty said:
    In the last Q&A session from the devs, they kept on forcing the idea of "we want our players to have fun, that is why we do this and that". From here, my questions are: "How "fun" do they think is it to play against a good nurse?", "How "fun" is it to play against a good nurse with more than 2 blinks?", "How "fun" is it to play against a huntress with one shot hatchets?". Explain the "fun" part to me, please, I might be missing something. They keep on talking about how they do not want killers to be too strong, while having this piece of junk aka Nurse in the game. Explain to me your logic, or else, I will not buy these pointless words of "We want you to have fun". I would rather have a rework on Nurse rather than on Wraith or Freddy. Not even a single word has been dropped out of their mouth about the Nurse changes. Do they actually think that everything is fine and "we better work on Freddy next". How many posts did they read about "Nurse is broken" compared to "Please buff Freddy"? I do not want to assume anything in here, but the answer, for me, is pretty obvious.

    Do you realize that you purchased a horror game?
    The usual horror game player likes to be scared when palying the weak role and doesnt consider bullying the killer as fun as its the case nowadays.
    All killers need to be lifted up to the billy/nurse lvl, this is what fun means

  • @Zanfer said:

    @Master said:

    @iceman2kx said:
    Before anyone jumps on me for the title, I'm a killer main myself and this is pretty much a QQ post. I've just recently gotten into survivor with probably <5 hours played as survivor. Even though I know a little bit about the mechanics and game play, I still SUCK and get owned often. I'm terrible at looping and skill checks and I often get caught. Shouldn't that be the norm for rank 15 players though?

    So my question is, why are there killers at 13/14/15 running these super sweaty builds to straight murder these new survivors? At this level, my teammates (myself included) are running lame perks or no perks due to character level. I'm running into killers often with fotm builds (ruin/bbq etc) running ebony moris and ultra rare addons. What gives dudes? As a killer main myself, I find this pretty gross and dishonorable behavior. I don't even start running addons until blue ranks, even then I'll seldom do it.

    For so long, I've always wondered why survivors were so toxic at the end of rounds with salty trolls and tea bagging at the gate. Now, I don't even blame them.

    tl;dr: I'm disappointed in the community I belong to.

    This game has been balanced around the low ranks. You cant blame killers for dereanking in order to play a balanced game, I do this too now (even though I dont derank that far).

    Its simply not fun versing optimal survivors, especially in SWF, so I simply avoid that now until the devs balance the game around that (assuming that will ever happen....)

    So you admit to DC to make people waste their time, just great!

    I dont DC to derank

  • Devs are too lazy to create other body kits than humans and considering that they seem to only produce unviable killers for $..... I would do the same in their position I guess

  • If a killer perk would be equal to 4 survivor perks than id say yes.
    But since this is not the case atm, NO

  • We have 13 killers and 14 survivors.
    At the moment we dont have variety because all survivors are only skins (horrible design tbh) and because most killers are simply unviable. The devs say not every killer has to be viable against good survivors, so people obviously dont use the weaker killers. We are all thrown into competitive matchmaking and even SWF is a thing, so if you dont wanna have a bad time being bullied.....

  • Definitely not in the usual sections.

    Shoudl be ok in the section media lounge though

  • Its an visual bug, you dont actually lose the pip

  • @Runaway said:
    So i'm curious.
    I heard that Microsoft are working on the kb/m (Keyboard/Mouse) option for Xbox.
    Will there ever be such a thing for consoles, i mean the game was developed for PC in the first place, so i thought that there might be an option to add it to consoles too?

    Thats not the devs buisness.
    Of course you can play the game with mouse any keyboard, but your console has to support it

  • @Dudddd said:
    Wolf74 said:

    38:45

    Reducing the cone for killer hitdetection?

    They go over it like it would be something minor.

    Killer need to use "their body as a battering ram" to make a hit? Like you have to piggy back ride them?

    Wow... I am already have the impression to have T-Rex-arms as a killer and Devs want to further push that crap?

    No matter if it is just "crazy talk", better tell 'em right away that this is a horrible idea.

    Tzeentchling9 said:

    Too many crybabies complaining that their 360 juke wannabes don't work against killers with half a brain.

    Rip to killers on console because its easy to 360 killers due to bad frames and im talking in high ranks and camera movement is slow even with 100% opacity .

    You forgot controller aim :wink:

  • @Wolf74 said:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyI0huMpFcE

    38:45

    Reducing the cone for killer hitdetection?
    They go over it like it would be something minor.
    Killer need to use "their body as a battering ram" to make a hit? Like you have to piggy back ride them?
    Wow... I am already have the impression to have T-Rex-arms as a killer and Devs want to further push that crap?

    No matter if it is just "crazy talk", better tell 'em right away that this is a horrible idea.

    Its time to switch to survivor or search for another game

  • Empathy is already one of the strongest perks for solo survivors

  • @iceman2kx said:
    Before anyone jumps on me for the title, I'm a killer main myself and this is pretty much a QQ post. I've just recently gotten into survivor with probably <5 hours played as survivor. Even though I know a little bit about the mechanics and game play, I still SUCK and get owned often. I'm terrible at looping and skill checks and I often get caught. Shouldn't that be the norm for rank 15 players though?

    So my question is, why are there killers at 13/14/15 running these super sweaty builds to straight murder these new survivors? At this level, my teammates (myself included) are running lame perks or no perks due to character level. I'm running into killers often with fotm builds (ruin/bbq etc) running ebony moris and ultra rare addons. What gives dudes? As a killer main myself, I find this pretty gross and dishonorable behavior. I don't even start running addons until blue ranks, even then I'll seldom do it.

    For so long, I've always wondered why survivors were so toxic at the end of rounds with salty trolls and tea bagging at the gate. Now, I don't even blame them.

    tl;dr: I'm disappointed in the community I belong to.

    This game has been balanced around the low ranks. You cant blame killers for dereanking in order to play a balanced game, I do this too now (even though I dont derank that far).

    Its simply not fun versing optimal survivors, especially in SWF, so I simply avoid that now until the devs balance the game around that (assuming that will ever happen....)

  • @No_Cluie_Louis said:

    @Master said:

    @No_Cluie_Louis said:

    @Master said:

    @No_Cluie_Louis said:

    @Master said:

    @No_Cluie_Louis said:

    This ######### wraith took 3 gens to catch me when i wasn't even pallet looping. he was just so bad that he kept losing me. He then face camped me as apparantly every killer face camps pallet loopers. Nice logic cuz that means every killer face camps. These people need banning, and no i wasn't using d-strike .

    Wraith is #########, yet he caught you. What does that say about you?

    You werent even pallet looping, yet wraith face camped (facecamp has been removed from the game btw) you for pallet looping. Mhm aha nice logic indeed

    People who think like that are always gonna face camp, of course he caught me eventually, he's a killer, the killer has the advantage, not even ochido can always run a killer around killer for 5 gens. As for the other thing you said, i meant that he said that any killer would face camp loopers, even though i didn't loop. Why so aggressive man, i think im entitled to being annoyed for having my game ruined, and no im not saying i deserved an escape as im not an entitled survivor main, but its bs that a killer has the power to abuse the game so it's impossible for you to escape. Their should be some skill to stopping people from escaping a hook otherwise the killer can choose to make your game spent not moving or doing anything. Every time someone says something like this i have to listen to "oh your an entitled survivor", yes i feel entitled to being able to play the game and not make my first hook my last, no i don't feel entitled to escape most matches. People who abuse the killers power like that are some of the worst community members of this game

    Ochido is a pleb btw.

    Ofc, if you only run in circles like an idiot, then the killer is gonna catch you eventually.

    I am not agressive, I am just stating facts, The only one being agressive here are you, check your language...

    Even if he stands 1 meter in front of you, its not impossible to escape. You can be easily saved by using BT and bodyblocking, BT is the shortage for Borrowed time and is exactly that "skill" you wish to exist.

    Obviously but its almost impossible, escpecially if you low rank teammates don't have bt yet, he was also grabbing anyone who attempted to save people, even if someone had bt it would have been difficult

    Its not impossible, I see SWF doing it all the time against me when I try to secure the last kills after gates are open.
    There is nothing you can do as a M1 killer.
    Survivors can easily protect the unhooker by bodyblocking such that you cant grab him.

    Guess you need to climb up if your still playing in low ranks, but dont blame the killer for survivors mistakes

    Again i think i am entitled to blame him if he's going to play like that, its not a mistake to go down as it happens and there isn't much to do to stop it, meanwhile it's also not my mistake i didn't get saved, so how is it fair at all, the hooked person is too powerless to be camped like that

    Ofc its a mistake if you go down and theres a lot to stop it :lol:
    But yeah, as you already noticed, you are entitled :wink:

  • They actually have a higher chance of showing up, its still RNG though^^

  • @No_Cluie_Louis said:

    @Master said:

    @No_Cluie_Louis said:

    @Master said:

    @No_Cluie_Louis said:

    This ######### wraith took 3 gens to catch me when i wasn't even pallet looping. he was just so bad that he kept losing me. He then face camped me as apparantly every killer face camps pallet loopers. Nice logic cuz that means every killer face camps. These people need banning, and no i wasn't using d-strike .

    Wraith is #########, yet he caught you. What does that say about you?

    You werent even pallet looping, yet wraith face camped (facecamp has been removed from the game btw) you for pallet looping. Mhm aha nice logic indeed

    People who think like that are always gonna face camp, of course he caught me eventually, he's a killer, the killer has the advantage, not even ochido can always run a killer around killer for 5 gens. As for the other thing you said, i meant that he said that any killer would face camp loopers, even though i didn't loop. Why so aggressive man, i think im entitled to being annoyed for having my game ruined, and no im not saying i deserved an escape as im not an entitled survivor main, but its bs that a killer has the power to abuse the game so it's impossible for you to escape. Their should be some skill to stopping people from escaping a hook otherwise the killer can choose to make your game spent not moving or doing anything. Every time someone says something like this i have to listen to "oh your an entitled survivor", yes i feel entitled to being able to play the game and not make my first hook my last, no i don't feel entitled to escape most matches. People who abuse the killers power like that are some of the worst community members of this game

    Ochido is a pleb btw.

    Ofc, if you only run in circles like an idiot, then the killer is gonna catch you eventually.

    I am not agressive, I am just stating facts, The only one being agressive here are you, check your language...

    Even if he stands 1 meter in front of you, its not impossible to escape. You can be easily saved by using BT and bodyblocking, BT is the shortage for Borrowed time and is exactly that "skill" you wish to exist.

    Obviously but its almost impossible, escpecially if you low rank teammates don't have bt yet, he was also grabbing anyone who attempted to save people, even if someone had bt it would have been difficult

    Its not impossible, I see SWF doing it all the time against me when I try to secure the last kills after gates are open.
    There is nothing you can do as a M1 killer.
    Survivors can easily protect the unhooker by bodyblocking such that you cant grab him.

    Guess you need to climb up if your still playing in low ranks, but dont blame the killer for survivors mistakes

  • @HES_GOT_DED_AHD said:
    Can you make something out of it? Coupling it with Bamboozle, Brutal Strength? Can it be worth it?

    Yes, with bamboozle and T3 myers, you are the vault master.
    Wouldnt call it worth though, but it can be quite hilarious :wink:

  • @Chi said:
    I don't think Ruin is necessary, slugging would make the game go slower anyway.

    What alternative perk would you suggest?

  • @azazer said:
    Wraith with third seal. Slug 1, go invisible, someone comes, curse them and wait by the slug for the next and repeat. Sloppy butcher and nurse's calling with dear stalker

    Interesting, so you would propose deerstalker,nurses,3rd seal and ruin?

  • @No_Cluie_Louis said:

    @Master said:

    @No_Cluie_Louis said:

    This ######### wraith took 3 gens to catch me when i wasn't even pallet looping. he was just so bad that he kept losing me. He then face camped me as apparantly every killer face camps pallet loopers. Nice logic cuz that means every killer face camps. These people need banning, and no i wasn't using d-strike .

    Wraith is #########, yet he caught you. What does that say about you?

    You werent even pallet looping, yet wraith face camped (facecamp has been removed from the game btw) you for pallet looping. Mhm aha nice logic indeed

    People who think like that are always gonna face camp, of course he caught me eventually, he's a killer, the killer has the advantage, not even ochido can always run a killer around killer for 5 gens. As for the other thing you said, i meant that he said that any killer would face camp loopers, even though i didn't loop. Why so aggressive man, i think im entitled to being annoyed for having my game ruined, and no im not saying i deserved an escape as im not an entitled survivor main, but its bs that a killer has the power to abuse the game so it's impossible for you to escape. Their should be some skill to stopping people from escaping a hook otherwise the killer can choose to make your game spent not moving or doing anything. Every time someone says something like this i have to listen to "oh your an entitled survivor", yes i feel entitled to being able to play the game and not make my first hook my last, no i don't feel entitled to escape most matches. People who abuse the killers power like that are some of the worst community members of this game

    Ochido is a pleb btw.

    Ofc, if you only run in circles like an idiot, then the killer is gonna catch you eventually.

    I am not agressive, I am just stating facts, The only one being agressive here are you, check your language...

    Even if he stands 1 meter in front of you, its not impossible to escape. You can be easily saved by using BT and bodyblocking, BT is the shortage for Borrowed time and is exactly that "skill" you wish to exist.

  • @Wolff_Bringer said:
    Hello fellow creator of the fog,

    may you hear my word about totem perks like Hex: Devour Hope or Hex: Huntress Lullaby.

    These perks works with stacks and that is quite fine for me. Since it would be pretty dang OP when devour hope would activate instantly.
    BUT what i dont like about these perks: The Totems are activated BEFORE the perks do something. Like "Hex: Devour Hope" only activates after you get 2 Tokens on level 3. I would like to consider the idea about making the totems only active when you get a boni of them.
    It sucks when you have to get stacks for Devour Hope but even BEFORE you get 1 stack the perk is gone.

    Greetings
    Wolff

    The real problem is that all information is handed to survivors by notifications. If they actually needed to pay attention, lullaby would be viable I believe

  • @jiminie said:

    @Master said:

    @Giche said:

    @Wolf74 said:

    @Kurisu said:
    Title.
    Seriously I don't get why this is a thing that doesn't have any punishment sigh

    So you want the killer to get forced to play the unfair, unbalanced crap that is called SWF?
    So the killer should just accept that you want to have fun by enjoying an unfair advantage and he should just accept that his fun will get spoiled, Gotcha.

    They also want you to say "thank you :'D" after being mentally rapped.

    Like the sad bullies they are.

    Its not only mentally.
    When you are sitting in a dark room and the cocky survivors are yielind some lightsabres, then it becomes a physical problem affecting you IRL soon

    Well, you could let some light come through your dark palace, you know, or you are a nighty person ?

    I prefer darker environments in the evening/night. Too much light will keep you awake and causes bad sleep.

    Also I always prefer playing horror games in dark environments, but obviously DBD isnt a horror game (sry couldnt resist) :wink:

  • @Dre said:
    The development that designed and passed the new DBD killer is misogyny.

    They rationalize it for their own pleasure and try to acquiesce in it.
    Are you conscientious?
    I'm sure some of you opposed the ethical good.
    What's the point of keeping the line in good stead and suddenly retreating?
    to be disappointing
    This incident will make the game more difficult to operate with malicious users. The positive assessment of collecting users will be cancelled.

    But you don't lose them and you can make money.
    The killer's gameability and ideas were well made, but the costumes and stories were overkill.
    Certainly we can find better ways.
    If you thought the topic of the new killer was really good, if you knew the social atmosphere, you should have applied it to male characters before Spirit to convince users.
    But you didn't.

    If he wanted to convey the message, "DBD prefers sexual objectification," the character had to take a pose that emphasized his hips to the fullest. Dead and kept cold, but should have emphasized hips and soft breasts. A muttering body should have reminded the naked body.
    The bandage had to reveal between the legs and the hips.
    It should have released a male character who was the victim of an unprecedented murder.

    Here are some people who refer to The Hillbilly, The Warith, The Hag, and David.
    These characters are cleverly created with minimal ethics.
    Was 'The Hillbilly' killed by his family? Were you ruled with a tearful cry without killing a man with his own will?
    Is 'The Warith' near to nakedness by taking off the cape?
    Do you have a loose bandage around your lower body?
    Do you pose that exposes the important parts, reveals the hip bones and highlights the hips?
    When David was socially, physically and powerfully pressured, he was forced to be stripped to what he didn't intend, making him look like a naked body?
    'The Hag'? Is the skin or appearance around her body so similar that it reminds you of a real person?

    Don't you see the difference?
    Okay!
    If you can't tell the difference, if you don't mind, just apply it to Spirit as well!
    There is a DBD community in my country that is difficult for you to find.
    On community sites for regular users, there is already a voice that says that they are sloppy about how they dress.

    People tell me I'm jealous of Spirit. But it is prejudice and overuse.
    I love Spirit's beauty and great gameability and I think it's great.
    But the way Spirit is handled is too immoral. Spirit is sad. I feel sorry for countless women around me who come to mind watching Spirit.
    Too many women in Asia are going through the same thing as Spirit, and they are being persecuted in the same way.

    Formal exposure and handling are influential.
    It makes me even angrier to see people who say disgusting things and exploit them without thinking of problems.
    I know that if I ignore this, it will be a cloud that increases the number of women affected by the damage like Spirit I love.
    I am very angry with you for your contributions to such a trend.
    People say.
    'That doesn't happen to women! Such an event is very rare!'
    They live in obscurity and misery.
    It is because even if he talks, he doesn't understand, and everyone takes sides with the perpetrator.
    You don't want to know.
    Because even if you don't know these facts, your life will not be invaded.
    This fact is all plain and miserable at the level of your argument.

    You made Spirit without thinking of him as a human being.
    You did not humanize the victims in the same situation as Spirit.
    People in situations similar to Spirit are not considered.
    In Asia, domestic violence is being killed at the same level as the shooting.
    He created a pretty poor, low-down delusion for the joys and satisfaction of those in power who had nothing to lose.
    Just because Asians treat women like that doesn't mean you should treat them like that. This is the reality of Asian women's rights.
    If you cared about your victims and thought about it, Spirit wouldn't have made them walk around crying nakedly, murdered by their father. I feel very insulted.
    I'm sick and tired of being forced to deal with Asian women as submissive.

    Your society cares about respecting each other as equals.
    However, they welcomed and accepted factors that women are exploiting in Asia.
    No, racists! No!
    We are under tremendous exploitation, damage and discrimination in the aforementioned atmosphere and are struggling for change.
    It was able to start current DBD that was considered for this reason.
    You are actually raising your hand against us.
    Are you happy to be the perpetrator?
    Too many people are reliving their disgusting desires for Spirit and regenerating and becoming dull. Please!
    The impact of media content cannot be ignored.
    From the moment you don't observe the moral line, you have not created it. It was an act of injury to the users and a reversal of human rights.

    Please distinguish between reality and influence.

    Can you korean feminists use proper english at least?
    Also where have you been when shirtless david has been introduced?

  • Just forget about her. The killers already stated their planned changes.
    Better forget her fast instead of being dissapointed

  • Can you provide footage of such an unfair hit? I am not quite sure what you mean.

  • @No_Cluie_Louis said:

    This ######### wraith took 3 gens to catch me when i wasn't even pallet looping. he was just so bad that he kept losing me. He then face camped me as apparantly every killer face camps pallet loopers. Nice logic cuz that means every killer face camps. These people need banning, and no i wasn't using d-strike .

    Wraith is #########, yet he caught you. What does that say about you?

    You werent even pallet looping, yet wraith face camped (facecamp has been removed from the game btw) you for pallet looping. Mhm aha nice logic indeed

  • @Eveline said:
    I get more points from keeping the killer busy than my team who just did gens. They probably didn't even pipped. I know its not always possible but still better than just doing gens in the shadows and only pip if you unhook someone.

    Stealth play and gens=no pip.

    I pip all the time being stealthy, doing gens and escaping.

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