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Spirit and Billy. Pretty much a invisible killer with a chainsaw.
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Instant Heals and Prayer Beads.
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@Acesthetiic said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/739479#Comment_739479
Most of it reasonable. Nurses could definitely be A tier. I stand by Dark Devotion at B tier though, it’s incredibly underrated in my experience.
Not sure why saying “Hag is better than these killers” bothers you so much? It’s more for the memes and I actually find Spirit on par with Hag and go back and forth between the two.
I just don't like that you seem to show this opinion as statement even on threads that are not related to this topic, despite the fact that I now think as well that Hag is better than Billy ( purely because she is less map dependent than him ).
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A Nurse's Calling is way too high, especially in this no heal meta with perks like Adrenaline, Inner Strength, Second Wind or Distortion which makes A Nurse's Calling much weaker, plus the fact that most killers have a standard 32 meters terror radius, which means NC needs Monitor and Abuse to even work against aware survivors on most killers, you could easily drop this perk 2 tiers, but I feel like you should drop it at least 1.
Thanatophobia should be a tier lower, it's only really useful on particular builds or particular killers ( Plague, Legion, Freddy with slow down add-ons ), but on its own is laughable weak.
Dark Devotion should be lower and Infectious Fright and Thrilling Tremors should definitely be higher, I would never take Dark Devotion over one of these 2 perks or even over Monitor and Abuse for that matter.
Discordance, Play With Your Food and Cruel Limits could be a tier lower.
Saying that Hag is better than Spirit and Billy even on threads that are not related to that topic is becoming pretty annoying. You don't see me saying that "Plague is better than Huntress" on every comment or thread I post.
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Spirit doesn't really have a consistently or reliable counter unlike other killers, that's why most people find her unfun to verse.
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Wraith is the best for beginners. And then probably Hillbilly.
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I even don't see many killers with NOED anymore, idk ehy people still complain about this perk.
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@WhTe_Tygre_DBD said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/738393#Comment_738393
I'm on ps4 so you get doctor and hag for free
Demogorgon and Freddy are the next strongest then.
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Well, Nurse is also a DLC killer. But if we don't include her, then Hag.
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Her base kit is fine, but some of her green+ add-ons can make her pretty broken.
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They are almost as bad as Clown. Almost.
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His power would be way too similar to Billy if you did that.
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I think the Undetectable status effect was devs "fix" for Object of Obsession.
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That would make Iri Head not worth running. Even now it isn't without Infantry Belt.
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@BBQnDemogorgon said:
I agree i feel like a lot of people underestimate the new Freddy. People don't realize you can spam the crap out of those snares to make most loops unsafe.
Plus he doesn't lose speed or bloodlust placing them so if you trap a loop so its unsafe getting to a new one will also be unsafe.
Demogorgon also seems to be underrated its like people don't give them enough of a chance and learn the tricks needed to see that they're actually god tier.
Trust me, almost nobody underestimate Freddy, some people even put him above Billy.
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His Snares seems OP just because survivors are too desperate in trying to loop him, instead of just putting pallets down and force him to break them. Because his Snares don't affect vaults on pallets, Freddy still needs to break them, thus allowing the survivor to reach another loop and wasting his time.
Most survivors will just try to loop him like a normal M1 killer and complain about the "Snares spam".
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You should play Spirit add-onless first and then see what add-ons would you like on her. Maybe you want more speed and duration or just less charge time and power recovery. But avoid her purple and red add-ons while you learn her.
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Adrenaline is a meta perk because of the "no heal meta". You can just rush gens and have Adrenaline at the end.
If you want heals and to get rid of totems, so NOED doesn't activate, use Inner Strength then.
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@GrootDude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/736073#Comment_736073
Adrenaline only does that after the fifth gen pops and usually you aren’t even being chased when it activates, Iron Will or OoO are better.
So you could come only with just 2 perks. OoO which is gonna get nerfed with the Undetectable status effect coming into play and Iron Will which gets countered by Plague and Spirits with Stridor.
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He is the worst killer in the game and he is need of buffs or even are rework. Most Clown mains consider him trash already, so I don't think a rework would mind them.
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Thrilling Tremors. You should pair it with Pop as well.
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@beatddb said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/734810#Comment_734810
Depends on how you see it, with the increased charge time Huntresses would have to think more on when to aim, and survivors have a slighty bigger room to change their pathing and juke the hatchet.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/734814#Comment_734814
Yeah, and pink instaheals and survivors map offerings too
The current Iri Heads is a pretty weak add-on by itself and needs to be combined with Infantry Belt ( purple add-on ) to remove just a half of his downside.
Your idea of Iri Heads is still strong by itself and if you combine it with Flower Babushka ( green add-on ), you remove the entire downside from that add-on and now you have 5 instant hatchets, instead of 3, which is the maximum you can get from current Iri Heads.
So yeah, your idea is actually a big buff to Iri Heads.
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Your idea would be actually a buff to Iri Heads IMO.
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She is really strong with the right builds.
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Survivors already have Oblivious status on them when they are in Dream World.
I think Freddy is a good killer, 6th place, maybe 5th.
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Ghost Face.
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@Aikanaro said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/733393#Comment_733393
I would love to see OP as a surv with his counters vs a skilled Spirit, so we get schooled and admire how a Spirit can be evaded and looped for 2 hours.
Any killer shouldn't be looped for 2 hours.
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@KrazyAce13 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/732726#Comment_732726
Are you serious ######### lmao flashlights burn her traps and urban crouching doesn’t set them off... you playing the same game?
If your trap placements isn't obvious aka trapping gens, you can counter both as Hag.
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@KrazyAce13 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/725794#Comment_725794
She’s not because hag has 2 hard counters to her power flashlights and crouching now that fixated is a thing that and urban well yeah.
Her only hard counter is Object of Obsession, but that counters anyone not Nurse or Spirit. A good Hag can deal with flashlights and especially with crouching.
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Yes, she can be very good with the right build.
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@dont_ask_me_again said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/732256#Comment_732256
BL showed in win-rates to not be that good for R1-4 level survivors... Dead Hard and Sprint Burst were the real go to exhaustion perks when the devs last released stats. It’s very map specific and maps that give it a few jumps aren’t even good enough for the perk.
I didn't see Sprint Burst in top 5 in ranks 1-4, just in ranks 10 it was so high.
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@dont_ask_me_again said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/732204#Comment_732204
BL is an exhaustion perk that: is really bad on a lot of maps or it’s overpowered on certain maps so not really an optimal perk but yeah you get people who’ll run BL with a map offering. Yeah Haddonfield isn’t balanced but you know who else sucks on that map? Nurse. So it’s not really a point of comparison on killer strength. When I mentioned a disadvantaged map I wasn’t talking about the most extreme but ones with more regular loops but still a lot of LoS block. Jorderix could make sheltered woods a cakewalk but Torment Creek it feels like you have a chance and Jorderix is still hooking and killing.
There are people who think billy isn’t top tier and people say the same about huntress... I see them at the most potential at around even strength but sitting below nurse and spirit abit.
Balanced Landing is really good on a lot of maps. Shelter Woods is the only map where is almost useless.
Huntress is literally at disadvantage in 80% of the maps. That's why she fall in the tier lists.
Most people still consider Billy top tier. He is put as 3th-4th killer by almost everyone.
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@dont_ask_me_again said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/731076#Comment_731076
I versed Jorderix a lot in the past... his huntress on a disadvanced map feels like a balanced match (it doesn’t stop him countering loops) but when the map favours him then GG, no hope, you’re gonna get sniped. He knows every opportunity with her that from the survivor pov every even tiniest opportunity you give to him - he’ll capitalise on. Huntress can slug as good as nurse on the level he plays and if you imagine well timed fully charged hatchets (when they’re undodge-able) always connecting then the map is all survivors really have to keep LoS of them.
Alot of people say Billy is bad but if his chainsaw charge timing is on the level of the optimal huntress windups that I see (which i have on some billies) then there’s no reason billy is bad... the moment the survivor believes the killer can’t make mistakes is when they start to screw up more because they push themselves into linear routes.
1 There is nothing balanced in the fact that you can literally loop for minutes a Huntress around certain buildings like the ones from Wretched Shop, Rancid Abbatoir, Disturbed Ward, etc. Jordirex himself told me that he wants to DC every time the survivors loop his Huntress with Balanced Landing on Haddonfield.
2 "Maps that favours him", yeah, Huntress has like 2 maps that favours her, while the others are from bad maps to "DC worthy" maps.
3 Literally nobody called Billy a bad killer, idk why you bring him in the discussion.
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@Aura_babyy said:
Can anyone even confirm that Freddy's ability to cancel out Borrowed Time is intended?
I know I pretty much went on a tangent explaining why hes top tier. But this bit here irks me
Yes, devs confirmed it's intended.
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@jordirex said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/731076#Comment_731076
Every Autohaven map, every macmillan map is good.
Very open corn maps are good, institute is good, the game is fine.
Yamaoka is boring but not that bad
Haddonfield is bad and some lerys maps too. Still winnable on both, even against good players.
Huntress is consistent if you're consistent with her.
Good survivors will just abuse the infinites for Huntress which are in pretty much half of the maps you mentioned.
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@RossSama said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/729172#Comment_729172
Here you go.
Tru3Ta1ent reached rank 1 killer playing exclusively Nurse with NO PERKS/ADD-ONS WHATSOEVER.
LINK to final game in the series
A bunch of the other games are on youtube for your viewing pleasure. Full red rank survivor SWFs being trashed by a Nurse with zero perks or add-ons. The fact that you can't see the reality here is... baffling, to say the absolute least.
Actually, Tru3 got trashed in most of these matches and he only got some kills because of survivors greed ( like usually ). In one of these matches, all gens were done in 4 minutes.
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I know you are a over 2000 hours Huntress main, but you must admit it, Huntress is anything but not consistently good. I mean, seriously, there is a good map for Huntress that isn't Blood Lodge ?
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Clown is the worst killer in the game, closely followed by Legion.
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I think devs are gonna rework first Doctor's, Billy's, Cannibal's and Huntresses add-ons ( to have the same configuration as the other killers add-ons ) and then Pig's and Legion's add-ons ( because they are even more underpowered than Demo's add-ons ), so I don't think we gonna see buffs to Demo's add-ons soon. But it's ok, at least he got a decent base kit.
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She counters looping and that's illegal.
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I still consider Clown the worst killer in the game.
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BBQ/Thrilling Tremors, Ruin, Pop and Surveillance is a very solid build on her.
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Her base kit is fine. Prayer Beads should be reworked. Wakizashi Saya could use a drawback because damn, that post phase lunge is very strong with it. Mother Daughter Ring + Bloody Hair Brooch might be a little bit too strong as well.
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Stridor only purpose in this game is to counter Iron Will. Take away that from Stridor and it becomes as useful as Furtive Chase or Mindbreaker.
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@Hoodied said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/729385#Comment_729385
I put them in randomly, as in they fall in the category of x tier, but not in order
Ok then, but Ghost Face and Leatherface are still too high in my opinion.
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Spirit higher than Nurse ? Ghost Face 4th best ? Leatherface almost as high as Hag ? You can have your opinions, but I heavily disagree with some of them.
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Dude, this was a shitpost from 8 months ago.
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Mine is Myers.
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Hag. Trapper is not even close.
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@Mister_Holdout said:
I would love to see a video of someone reliably juking Zubat's Spirit.
I'm not implying it's impossible, I'm just curious if there is such a video.
Zubat at least plays Spirit ? I think I saw him play her once. He plays mostly Huntress ...