Now you obviously don't have to agree with me, but compared to experienced players I've come to the conclusion that i think Hag is just a better Demogorgon in terms of playstyle.
In addition i think it needs something more added like Freddy got
I think Hag is more viable even than Billy, because there are maps like Lery's, The Game, Badham Preschool and Hawkins Laboratory where Hag shines, while Billy gets destroyed.
Hag's traps are counterable, has limited ranger, unlike Demo, he also gets a chase benefiting mechanic, Shred, he does get limited portals but he can warp as far as he wants and has no tr or stain after a while.
Shred is a more useful chase tool than hag traps/can destroy pallets and the portals are great map pressure that can't be destroyed before the killer gets use out of them unlike hags.
Hag's traps are counterable, has limited ranger, unlike Demo, he also gets a chase benefiting mechanic, Shred, he does get limited portals but he can warp as far as he wants and has no tr or stain after a while.
I'd argue that compared to Hag, Demo's portals can be cleansed way faster, shows you where they are, Meanwhile with Hag if they are forced to run, they HAVE to step in your trap, way faster teleports they also need an item to get rid of them and they are harder to spot on most maps. Making her a better pick
I'd argue that compared to Hag, Demo's portals can be cleansed way faster, shows you where they are, Meanwhile with Hag if they are forced to run, they HAVE to step in your trap, they also need an item to get rid of them and they are harder to spot on most maps. Making her a better pick
Surveillance or gen reading perks like Discordance synchronize much better for Demo since he can place them and go there regardless if you want him to or not, Hag is not a bad killer but Demo is more fun imo and with 115%.
I'd argue that compared to Hag, Demo's portals can be cleansed way faster, shows you where they are, Meanwhile with Hag if they are forced to run, they HAVE to step in your trap, they also need an item to get rid of them and they are harder to spot on most maps. Making her a better pick
You can destroy he web just by runing through suspicious places and activate all her traps. She's either reset them and waste a lot of time, or be a 4.4 m/s M1 killer with no power other than forcing players away from loops quickly.
You can destroy he web just by runing through suspicious places and activate all her traps. She's either reset them and waste a lot of time, or be a 4.4 m/s M1 killer with no power other than forcing players away from loops quickly.
Yeah but it's a danger to set off her traps, she has a pretty long lunge, Demo's portals don't have much threat unless you hardcore camp them somehow ontop of keeping pressure on gens
You can't compare Demo and Hag, they don't even do the same thing, gameplay wise.
As for who is the most viable of the two, it's definitely Demo because of how good shred is once you learn to use it, it can punish any small mistake a surv makes at a loop.
Hag is good but her traps are easily counterable if all 4 survs have any braincells and disable them / force her out of her comfort zone.
The only time Hag would be better would be on godawful maps where the demo struggle to use Shred, and even then it's a stretch imo.
I think Hag is more viable even than Billy, because there are maps like Lery's, The Game, Badham Preschool and Hawkins Laboratory where Hag shines, while Billy gets destroyed.
She’s not because hag has 2 hard counters to her power flashlights and crouching now that fixated is a thing that and urban well yeah.
She’s not because hag has 2 hard counters to her power flashlights and crouching now that fixated is a thing that and urban well yeah.
Her only hard counter is Object of Obsession, but that counters anyone not Nurse or Spirit. A good Hag can deal with flashlights and especially with crouching.
You can't compare Demo and Hag, they don't even do the same thing, gameplay wise.
As for who is the most viable of the two, it's definitely Demo because of how good shred is once you learn to use it, it can punish any small mistake a surv makes at a loop.
Hag is good but her traps are easily counterable if all 4 survs have any braincells and disable them / force her out of her comfort zone.
The only time Hag would be better would be on godawful maps where the demo struggle to use Shred, and even then it's a stretch imo.
They are comparable, I've compared differences and they aren't too far out from "different"
Her only hard counter is Object of Obsession, but that counters anyone not Nurse or Spirit. A good Hag can deal with flashlights and especially with crouching.
Are you serious ######### lmao flashlights burn her traps and urban crouching doesn’t set them off... you playing the same game?
@SasukeKun no you are wrong, they arent comparable, one relies heavily on its traps to down players and the other only has portals to move around the map quickly but is mostly is a M1 killer with a pouncing power.
@SasukeKun no you are wrong, they arent comparable, one relies heavily on its traps to down players and the other only has portals to move around the map quickly but is mostly is a M1 killer with a pouncing power.
Hag is technically stronger than Demo, but I think Demo's more fun to play. Hag can make a survivor regret playing with proper trap placement, while Demo can be a coin flip whether it's an easy win or a terrifying experience.
Hag is technically stronger than Demo, but I think Demo's more fun to play. Hag can make a survivor regret playing with proper trap placement, while Demo can be a coin flip whether it's an easy win or a terrifying experience.
"terrifying experience" Demo needs more than just that,
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I think Hag is more viable even than Billy, because there are maps like Lery's, The Game, Badham Preschool and Hawkins Laboratory where Hag shines, while Billy gets destroyed.
Tbh Hag is good simply bc everyone prefer juking and she is a beast at breaking loops.
The Hag gets absolutly destroyed if she is against immersed players, bc the traps don't trigger when crouching.
Hag's traps are counterable, has limited ranger, unlike Demo, he also gets a chase benefiting mechanic, Shred, he does get limited portals but he can warp as far as he wants and has no tr or stain after a while.
I'll go for Demo because I hate Hag. She's a bleeeeeeeeee of a killer.
Demogorgon is better in every way.
Shred is a more useful chase tool than hag traps/can destroy pallets and the portals are great map pressure that can't be destroyed before the killer gets use out of them unlike hags.
I'd argue that compared to Hag, Demo's portals can be cleansed way faster, shows you where they are, Meanwhile with Hag if they are forced to run, they HAVE to step in your trap, way faster teleports they also need an item to get rid of them and they are harder to spot on most maps. Making her a better pick
More fun - Demo
Better (IMO)- Hag
Hotel - Trivago
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They are both viable. It's hard to say which is better though.
Surveillance or gen reading perks like Discordance synchronize much better for Demo since he can place them and go there regardless if you want him to or not, Hag is not a bad killer but Demo is more fun imo and with 115%.
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You can destroy he web just by runing through suspicious places and activate all her traps. She's either reset them and waste a lot of time, or be a 4.4 m/s M1 killer with no power other than forcing players away from loops quickly.
Yeah but it's a danger to set off her traps, she has a pretty long lunge, Demo's portals don't have much threat unless you hardcore camp them somehow ontop of keeping pressure on gens
Hag is the third best killer imo and Demo isn’t even strong imo.
Come on how is this even a competition? Chicken has great map pressure, an insta down ability and fun as heck.
(But to be real I choose Demogorgon :v)
Delicious if cooked
Deadly if not
Win win
More viable Hag, more fun to play as Demo
I wanna say both, but I'm a hag main at heart.
chickens are OP, we all know that!
FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE WHO THINKS IT NEEDS SOMETHING
Mega Ultra Chicken is the most OP Killer in DBD. Change my mind.
cluck
Not even close
First*, but this is why you deserve the best thing in life. :D
We can compromise with second, I’m honestly starting to find hag better than spirit from a survivor perspective.
I just want justice for the new killer
😱😱 Hell yea! She could be first depending on the nurse change. But probably not enough to push her.
Who voted Demogorgon pls uninstall
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I knew adding that would be interesting
You can't compare Demo and Hag, they don't even do the same thing, gameplay wise.
As for who is the most viable of the two, it's definitely Demo because of how good shred is once you learn to use it, it can punish any small mistake a surv makes at a loop.
Hag is good but her traps are easily counterable if all 4 survs have any braincells and disable them / force her out of her comfort zone.
The only time Hag would be better would be on godawful maps where the demo struggle to use Shred, and even then it's a stretch imo.
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She’s not because hag has 2 hard counters to her power flashlights and crouching now that fixated is a thing that and urban well yeah.
Her only hard counter is Object of Obsession, but that counters anyone not Nurse or Spirit. A good Hag can deal with flashlights and especially with crouching.
They are comparable, I've compared differences and they aren't too far out from "different"
Are you serious ######### lmao flashlights burn her traps and urban crouching doesn’t set them off... you playing the same game?
Hag is my oc. But Demogorgon is just so good right now.
+ Strong ability to end chases. Pounce on top of the brokenness of destroying pallets. Makes quick work of loop.
+ They have map pressure. That isn't easily countered.
+ They a slow down attached to the pressure tool.
If your trap placements isn't obvious aka trapping gens, you can counter both as Hag.
Not everyone has an item or takes that perk
@SasukeKun no you are wrong, they arent comparable, one relies heavily on its traps to down players and the other only has portals to move around the map quickly but is mostly is a M1 killer with a pouncing power.
They are nothing alike and play very differently.
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Normal crouching without urban still counters her traps and there are a lot more flashlights now they get more points for blinds.
nope
Hag is technically stronger than Demo, but I think Demo's more fun to play. Hag can make a survivor regret playing with proper trap placement, while Demo can be a coin flip whether it's an easy win or a terrifying experience.
"terrifying experience" Demo needs more than just that,
Mainly because of its shred ability. Hag's traps are good against new players but Demi is good against high tier survivors.
That's why I said he isn't as viable as Hag. He's decent but not nurse tier or anything.
Demogorgon is kinda meh, not really as Effective as Hag in high ranks.