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@OrangeBear said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3284503#Comment_3284503
Fair point but it's impossible to get everyone to agree. Cause some people are truly okay with it. And some people will buy it just to spite the backlash. So i personally just let it unfold and act from there.
I'm pretty disappointed that they made the shard rule exempt though and i don't want to pay for outfit so i won't be buying them at least.
Shard rule exemption AND included already existing, always available outfits into this shitshow, don't forget that.
BHVR won't earn one cent from me from now onward.
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@Mandy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3284690#Comment_3284690
They will not become purchasable with shards, these themed seasonal outfits are exempt from that.
Seriously, you're not even trying to hide it at this point? Wow!
Just..wow!
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@Emeal said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3284503#Comment_3284503
The act of buying from a physical store and a digital store is the same action for me, the act of buying does not change, so the comparison is spot on.
I cant buy Christmas outfits at my stores in June. Is that now fear of missing out? I don't think so.
The act of buying is the same,sure
But if you ask anyone at your store why they're not selling Christmas outfits in June, they'll say that it doesn't make sense to keep a section of their store occupied with some stuff that is not going to be sold until is "relevant" again when they could use that section to store "in season" outfits.
A digital store doesn't have that problem since digital goods don't take up important space that could be used for something else.
(I suggest you try and go to one of your stores and ask them if they have some out-of-season stuff in the warehouse, they'll probably do and will be happy to sell it to you)
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@OrangeBear said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3283837#Comment_3283837
It's "not okay", so what? If it earns them more money they will just keep doing it regardless of how people feel about it. It must have earned more during the halloween event so now they are doing it again.
If people are going to complain about it but still buy them anyways then i have to accept how it's just going to work now.
I am happy, that at least this time around it looks like i will still be able to get the cosmetic that i want for free in this limited time window.
It's not okay, so let's try and convince more people to stop buying time-limited skins instead of having the "Yeah I don't like this but I'll but it anyway" mentality.
@Toaster427 said:
The fact that they are ignoring all the critisism from this speaks for itself.
It's greed, they want more money. It couldnt be any simpler than that guys.
BHVR isnt going to care about any of the criticisms while they are still making money hand over fist from it. It's like verbally telling someone not to do something then immediately handing them $100 to do it...which action do think would have the strongest effect.
If you don't like it, then vote with your wallet, that's pretty much all you can do in cases like this.
If you don't like it, then vote with your wallet, that's pretty much all you can do in cases like this.
Reminding BHVR (and the community) of the anti-consumer tactics they're employing every time they do is another very good option (in addition to voting with your wallet, of course)
@Emeal said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3284354#Comment_3284354
Are you mad Stores dont sell Christmas outfits in June?
Isnt it just a thing people do?
Are we having this argument again?
There's a huge difference between physical goods and digital ones, comparing them makes little to no sense.
And even if you do compare them, you ARE able to buy Christmas outfits in June.
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@bm33 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3283837#Comment_3283837
I agree, overall I'm not a fan of them doing this and I've said multiple times I think they need to stop with exclusives and FOMO.
The being available for shards though atleast gives people a chance to not be forced to spend real money or miss out.
The being available for shards though atleast gives people a chance to not be forced to spend real money or miss out.
Unless they confirm that I'm going to assume they're not going to be available for shards.
Still, anyone who doesn't have enough shards (and 5 outfits cost a LOT of shards) will be still forced to miss out on those, unless they cough up money.
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@drsoontm said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3283576#Comment_3283576
It feels kind of entitled to me. (Just trying to understand)
I believe the intent is to be seasonal and ephemeral, which is part of the "magic" of celebrations.
It's just seasonal skins FOR NOW.
It these skins sell good enough, BHVR will release more and more time-limited skins.
Answer this: What do we have to gain from time limited skins as a community?
If the answer is "Nothing", it's not entitled to ask that these kind of things are removed
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@OrangeBear said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3283388#Comment_3283388
There is a silver lining this time though. If it's going to be available for over 4 weeks that means they should become available for shard purchase on 29th december. Unless they decide to make an exception, but that would be unforeseen.
@bm33 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3283388#Comment_3283388
Atleast these will be available for little more than 4 weeks so if you wait you can get them with shards for the last few days they're available. Still not a fan of them continuing time limited cosmetics like this. Also sucks for the Yun Jin mains that finally get a cosmetic and may not be around/able to get that cosmetic in that short period of time.
Even if that turns out to be true (don't get your hopes up) the issue is not "They are Auric Cells only". We've had "Auric Cells only" skins for years in the game and there's no issue in that.
The issue is FOMO. FOMO is NOT okay.
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@Dionysus42 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3283411#Comment_3283411
Don't worry, they will say it's coming back next year on the last day of the sale which is totally fine and not transparently stretching out the FOMO as much as possible before getting the simps to defend them because it's 'not a REAL exclusive'
Of course they will, they'll say that on the friday before New Year's Eve
@VideoGameMage said:
So I'm going to assume this is going to be regular occurrence with event cosmetics huh.
You can bet your ass it is going to
Unless we REALLY start complaining about it but you know, apparently people like being treated like piggy banks 🤷🏻♂️
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@BarnesFlam said:
Guess who's back?
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/94TAFB1YSDC7/image.png
FOMO's back: https://deadbydaylight.com/news/store-collection-release-chapter26/
Not surprised, not happy
Ashamed that there are still people defending these dirty tactics in ANY kind of game
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@Murgleïs said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3281790#Comment_3281790
It’s bannable but afk players don’t get banned. Nobody cares about reporting them, and even if you do report them, maybe they were opening the door or something.
Cheaters do get banned.
Well, if nobody reports them of course they don't get banned, but it would be the same thing with cheaters, DBD is not really a "smart" game when it comes to banning people since they don't have a strong way of checking what happens during matches
@burt0r said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3281790#Comment_3281790
If they really would ban for that then many, many, many survivor would already have been banned when they try to outstealth each other in a 2 remaining scenario and completely gave up on progressing the trial.
That's bannable as well, yes, if you find yourself in that position, start recording and report the survivors that do this.
The main issue with people being AFK is players not reporting it.
I'm pretty sure that if someone tried to pull the Pinhead stunt OP described survivors would be more inclined to report that behaviour rather than reporting a "friendly" basement Bubba.
But don't listen to my words, ask a mod!
@Rizzo is being AFK bannable? Should we report for it?
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@Murgleïs said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3281751#Comment_3281751
Name one player who has ever been banned for being AFK.
I couldn't name one player who was banned for blatantly cheating
Doesn't mean they are not being banned
Being AFK and not participating in normal gameplay is listed as a bannable offense, so it should be safe to assume that people will be banned if they are reported enough times
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@Carth said:
You can't ban for this because, as others have said, it's not holding the game hostage. If you ban for this can you ban memeing killers like basement chest buba, and stealing item builds with franklin's and hoarders? What about bell spamming wraith? Or any of the various 'silly builds' you can do. Or how about a killer going afk in the corner and giving up? Or a survivor killing themselves/dcing on first hook?
Am I saying this is fun or to be celebrated? No, it's annoying but you can't ban for "not playing as intended" without hard defining every scenario. It's why nothing is banned except body blocking.
Being AFK is bannable. You need to be reported multiple times for that reason to be banned, but it's totally bannable.
Basement chest bubba somewhat falls under the same category but meh, it's not as annoying so there are way lower possibilities of survivors reporting you for that.
Stealing items build are a memey build, but you're not afk while using that build, slightly annoying yes, not bannable.
DCing already comes with a temporary ban.
Giving up should be treated very similarly to being AFK: do you give up once every 2 weeks? Eh, you're fine. Do you give up every other game? Maybe you shouldn't be playing DBD
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@Kweh said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/355003/bhvrs-backtracking-ability-is-astounding
Wow BHVR is an unprofessional mess of a company that only puts out mainly sub-par and straight up awful games complete with baffling decisions and contradictions? Shock!
Well it's probably good if we start bugging them about it every time they do it instead of simply rolling out eyes in silence
@Theminatar said:
Yall will literally be up in arms about anything when it comes to this game.
And you're allowing BHVR to tell you whatever they want and doing whatever they want without taking any responsibility for it, what's worse in the long run?
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And then there's me
Playing Demo mainly because he screams
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@Emeal said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3268214#Comment_3268214
Im sure you would like comments on everything, but since we already know the current policy and we both know policy may change. Do you really need them, to tell you a message from a year ago could be phrased better? I would not need that, just saying.
@Mooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3268314#Comment_3268314
I would have liked them to acknowledge the change and to not repeat this kind of ‚miscommunication‘ again. I am not holding a grudge against them or Mandy, but I am allowed to give my feedback in a constructive way especially if it’s something that can repeat itself in the future.
Same as Mooks here.
It doesn't look good when this kind of misscommunication incidents happen. It's not hard to find a "malicious" intent behind behaviours like these, even if it most likely wasn't the case.
Like, take for example the very similar thing that happened that @Simfeliz pointed out:
@[Deleted User] said:
The issue I took was when the Jane and Dwight skin was released. We were just told "For a limited time". There were many, many post in this forum asking about this. Not one peep from BHVR on these posts and we all know they are very active on this forum and answer question regularly. It wasn't until the 11th hour that we get the declaimer that they will be back next Halloween. You're telling me they suddenly changed this policy at the last second in the few weeks there were available? Of course, I have no idea what happens behind the scenes but it does reek as trying to cash in on FOMO.
Who's to say they weren't "testing the waters" by not saying wether the outfits would come back or not? My opinion is that they hadn't decided yet on what to do, and they were waiting to see our reaction before taking a decision on wether they were going to screw us over or not.
Luckily we complained enough to make them cave in and announce the outfits would come back.
This kind of "incidents" are dangerous because if we allow BHVR to take advantage of those, rest assured they will do so in the future, and most likely to our detriment.
@Marc_go_solo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3268310#Comment_3268310
Touché, good response! Although I've never heard anyone say they unlock outfits in store (I've heard people say "purchase" when talking about the store mostly), it does clearly say "unlocked".
Judging by bad wording, it's now more likely people could be misled. I'd still say it's not despicable, and much more down due to terrible wording and perhaps trying to be more clever than they actually were, but it's not great advertising neither.
I guess for me I made an assumption that it makes no financial sense to create an outfit to be sold for only 2 weeks before being discarded forever, so logically it just seems better to allow that cosmetic to return, but yeah .. I accept defeat on this one.
I guess for me I made an assumption that it makes no financial sense to create an outfit to be sold for only 2 weeks before being discarded forever, so logically it just seems better to allow that cosmetic to return
But it's (somehow) accepted as the norm in some cases, and not specifying if something is going to come back or not leads very rapidly to FOMO
(BTW the discussion in question was from last year, not regarding time-limited cosmetics, I'll get to that discussion later 😉)
@Science_Guy said:
You guys are acting like Mandy knew all along the items would come back and was just trying to trick you... You all really should know by now that BHVR doesn't finalize their plans a year in advance.
That's more than abundantly clear, don't worry. I'm ready to bet they hadn't finalized the P3 reward when they announced it in the first place.
What was missing here was an aknowledgment of the fact that they changed their plan after they communicated a different one. That or it was a case of bad community management, because if you don't know something, you can say "I'm not aware of any decision taken in that regards" or something more generic instead of saying something that's simply not true.
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@Emeal said:
I mean Mandy isnt lying, its unlockable during the event. I dont see any problem with this.
They were talking about the "Witching Hour" event.
Let's not defend doublespeak, please. It's like shooting ourselves (the community) in a foot and then giving BHVR the gun saying "Do it again, I liked it".
@Marc_go_solo said:
The key words I see are "earned" or "unlocked". When they appear in the store, they are neither of these as they are bought. So there's no backtracking that I can see within those messages.
However, Mandy did word her final point unclearly which may have caused a bit of confusion, but up to that point it was clear her focus was that the event would be the only time they would be unlockable.
"Despicable" is hardly the correct adjective for this which, at the very most, was a fair answer with a tired ending.
Nope, when an outfit is bought from the Store, it's unlocked, even the in-game store agrees
Saying A, then doing B without ever aknowledging the fact that you said you'd do A in the first place (they did it multiple times as well) is not really admirable, especially if you do that to paying customers.
@AssortedSorting said:
I am unsure if they themselves were even fully aware of the marketing teams direction at the time (if they were gauging player reactions).
If they were, then they were trying to play both sides with ambiguous phrasing.
If they weren't, well, they probably could have had the same effect by saying they're uncertain if they will be FOMO based or not, dependent on players reactions. (as this itself would still instill FOMO).
All in all, just not clear on the subject.
I am unsure if they themselves were even fully aware of the marketing teams direction at the time (if they were gauging player reactions).
EXACTLY. And they did the same exact thing when time-limited skins were announced. Radio silence for the first what, 3 weeks? Then after the partial outcry of the community they announced (not in a clear way) that they'll be back next year.
Still, a MUCH better answer to the question "Will they not be appearing in the store later?" would have been "I can't disclose that yet" if you're not sure, because as @Mooks said, the event was already over at that point and there would have been no FOMO involved.
@Emeal said:
I fail to see the point here? if policy is allowed to change then why are you guys complaining?
Noone says policy are not allowed to change. But if you change something that was already communicated to the public, the right thing to do is aknowledge the fact that you changed something and take responsibility for the change. Doing it like this seems like a cheap way of trying to sweep everything under the rug. They did it multiple times already, everytime doing nothing to address the thing.
They did it for the P3 rewards (bragging rights anyone?)
They did it for the catch up mechanic (second phase of the catch up mechanic? When was that mentioned?)
They did it for exclusives (Deep Rift items that are never coming back in the store)
It's becoming an habit of them, and it's not rubbing me the right way.
@AbsolutGrndZer0 said:
They've always said that RIft cosmetics would come to the store in the future for purchase. This is way it's always been, the wording of such has not changed.
There is no backtracking here at all, just people not paying attention to how things have always been.
Not Rift cosmetics. Those were Event cosmetics.
The Rift cosmetics they released are Mime Feng and Pumpkin Eater for Clown, but noone said anything about those (we don't know yet if those 2 particular outfits will be available next Halloween or not, BTW)
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@The_Scarlet_Witch said:
Valid argument Lycidas
Thanks
Not everyone understands that even if something is LEGAL, it doesn't mean you're not a dick if you do it
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@Starrseed said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3260194#Comment_3260194
If people let themselves trick by fomo its there problem every company ever trys to make money
Hold on I'm on my way to sell fake pokemon cards to kids then
If someone falls for it it's their fault in the end, isn't it?
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I don't regret it, but I do wish they gave us the option to vote each single cosmetic instead of pre-made sets
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Would be nice to know some details about the bug you're talking about?
It's not bugged afaik..
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@sizzlingmario4 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3258587#Comment_3258587
I was actually thinking of trying that the other day. I didn’t initially because I don’t see killers run Nurse’s nearly as often as they used to
Yeah, Nurse's is not that commonly used, but Distortion gives you value anyway at least once every other match with how often aura perks or addons are used
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@sizzlingmario4 said:
I usually just run BTB with lucky break, overcome, and a medkit and pray the killer doesn’t have nurse’s calling
May I introduce you to the wonders of Distortion?
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@Mooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3258269#Comment_3258269
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2684932#Comment_2684932
it was kinda stated they were exclusive..
You love to see it
BHVR being BHVR when it comes to community management, as always
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@Mat_Sella said:
the names are oriented on how good they are to say phonetically.
They're original characters..they could have named them whatever they wanted to make the name "sound good" while being written correctly
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The "freebie" killers get for the 4% is the big chunk of hook time the survivor loses 96% of the time they try to unhook themselves
It's such a niche occurrence that I don't know how you could consider it an issue
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@SpaghettiYOLO said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3252250#Comment_3252250
Did it really have to be stated when last year's limited time cosmetics came back this year? Wasn't hard to deduce at all.
It was the first time "last year limited time cosmetics" were available to be purchased in the store, so yeah, it had to be stated.
Especially when you say "Available only for a limited time between X and Y"
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Killer? Demo
Surv? Jake for now
There's a very high chance I'll switch from him to Vittorio though
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@RaSavage42 said:
So was doing the Bloodweb before any better?
I have to ask seems that more and more people are complaining about it
@Huge_Bush said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3252448#Comment_3252448
It wasn't better, it was just something that was accepted as part of the game. With the QOL change to the rift challenge selected, we see that the blood web selection can be improved. So, why not?
I disagree with @Huge_Bush here, it certainly felt better
Costs were higher, meaning you needed to buy less things to finish your bloodpoints
Unlimited level 50 bloodwebs meant you had to think a bit and buy nodes more strategically to fight the entity, reducing the frequency of you clicks
Lower cap meant you had less bloodpoints to begin with, so of course you had to click less times
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It is coming back next year, they confirmed it with an in-game banner and on twitter
Please don't buy into FOMO tactics
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@AbsolutGrndZer0 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3250934#Comment_3250934
Whatever. I have my opinion. You have your opinion. Neither of us is going to say anything to change the other's opinion, so this back and forth between us should end.
Would I prefer they be available year-round? Sure.
Does it bother me that some will not? No.
That's the last thing I am saying on this subject.
Ah, see? You already said you'd prefer to be able to buy them all year round, that's already something
Let's just hope you are right and they'll do this ONLY with strictly seasonal cosmetics bringing all of them back every year, but I doubt that unfortunately
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@AbsolutGrndZer0 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3250183#Comment_3250183
You are intentionally simplifying what I actually said to make me look bad. There is nothing wrong with seasonal content being limited to that season. It's plain and simple to understand.
@BarnesFlam explained it in a much way simpler way than I did.
What was wrong with past Halloween cosmetics being in the store all year round? If the answer is "Nothing" then there is no positive reason BHVR could have had to change that.
And yes, I simplified what you said, but I didn't left out any important detail, and if that makes you "look bad" there's probably a good reason.
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@AbsolutGrndZer0 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3249235#Comment_3249235
If they were not Halloween related items, I'd agree. But you have your right to your opinion, just as I do mine, and my opinion is that that Halloween content being limited to Halloween isn't a big deal. Now, if they in the future just start rotating outfits on a whim like Disney used to do with their movies, well... then I'd have a problem with that. But we aren't seeing that yet, and I am not one to always look to the worst case scenario. If you are, that's fine. You might even be right, and if you are, then well, I'll apologize.
Glad to see the only "reason" to defend these tactics is "It's not a big deal at the moment", thanks 😊
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@AbsolutGrndZer0 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3247548#Comment_3247548
They are deemed Halloween skins, so they will be back next year. Its really not a big deal, if you want them buy them, if you don't want them, then why does it matter if they are only there during the Halloween season?
BTW, if we want to be pedantic they confirmed that Dwight's and Jane's skins will be back next year, and they didn't confirm anything about the other 4 skins, which are part of different collections but still time-limited.
See the difference?
if you don't want them, then why does it matter if they are only there during the Halloween season?
Who said I don't want them? maybe I want them, but I want to be able to buy them whenever I want since they are digital content and don't have a particular reason to be available only during certain timeframes.
Plus, I don't want BHVR to think it's ok to release time-limited content, because guess what? If they think it's ok, they'll do it again, and again, and again, and everytime with more and more content. It's a slippery slope that we, as a community, have nothing to gain from.
Tell me 3 good reasons why time-limited skins are good for the community (aka as us) and why we should cherish these tactics. I'll wait.
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@ProfoundEnding said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3247727#Comment_3247727
But the thing is there's never going to be enough people willing to do that to make a difference, ever.
Most of the people playing these games don't even follow them on social media to see there's an outcry in the first place.
Ok, then surrender without even trying and buy into anti-consumer tactics without batting an eye.
Because that's the most sensible thing to do.
Or
Start trying to spread awareness to get people to understand why those things should not be acceptable and why they should complain without buying into it.
It (more or less) worked with NFTs, time-limited skins should be no difference.
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@ProfoundEnding said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3247404#Comment_3247404
It's baffling to me that people still think companies care more about their consumers then they do about making money.
It will always be about money, companies want to make as much money as possible, BHVR is looking at what other games are doing to make money, and they follow suit because they want to make more money.
Don't expect companies to care about their consumers more then they do about generating more income. If FOMO is going to bring in more money for them, then they absolutely will continue to do it.
That is true only because consumers ALLOW companies that don't care about them to make money.
If we were to stop supporting those companies, I'd say they'd magically change their mind.
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@Sonzaishinai said:
Anyone remember when it used to be even slower?
Yes, but things used to cost more at that time, higher cost = less time necessary to finish your bloodpoints, and bloodwebs were bigger (always level 50 bloodwebs), bigger bloodwebs = less time spent watching animations (lvl up and bloodweb generation)
It's all the little things that add up, the only improvement that has been made on the bloodweb to make it more tedious was speeding up the animations, so probably removing them altogether or making them REALLY minimal would help a lot more
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This has to be the best instance of this happening 😂
I could understand with a lot of stretching censoring the letter N, but what the ######### 😂
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@Mr_K said:
I don't mind the current system. But I'd suffered through the old system and don't relate to these new players that don't know how good they have it.
It's better than before, but it could be a lot better.
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Yes please
No more hold to buy nodes
Option to buy multiple nodes with one click
Option to automatically buy the whole bloodweb by clicking a button, even if it means buying random stuff
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@bm33 said:
I wonder if they are coming back next year will they be available for shards or will it reset every time always to be 3 weeks as a work around for their "4 weeks auric cells and then shards forever." If it's just a work around then I'd rather they return to the old system where you had the cosmetics available anytime.
It's going to be used as a workaround, rest assured.
I'll be more than happy to be laughed at if next year they'll be available for shards, but I suspects that's not going to be the case
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3237571#Comment_3237571
"Until they do so, they are inducing FOMO and pushing more people to buy an item because we don't know whether it will be available again or not."
It's exactly what they did. They are quick to chime in on other posts on this forum but were silent on this even though it was brought up numerous times. Not to mention the news announcements never mentioned this either. How hard would it have been to reply here and state "They will be available next Halloween" and to include that disclaimer at the start of the promotion.
Knowing how BHVR operated in the past, they didn't take the decision of having them come back next Halloween until very recently, after seeing the complains
Which is scary in a way, because it means that unless we are ready to complain they are more than happy to exploit us however they can, and that's not a good image
Plus, how many people will have missed the tweet like I did?
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@TerraEsram said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3237730#Comment_3237730
Sooo... It's a rare pumpkin with an animation of candy who are there?
There are some pumpkins that when smashed give you a speed boost
It's random, keep smashing pumpkins and you'll get one
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@FancyMrB said:
I am going to try and come at this from a different perspective.
Limited time does not mean exclusive. If BHVR comes out and says, 'Yes, these skins will never be available again! MWAHAHAHA miss out and weep poor people and/or people who cannot play at this time,' then yes, fine, that is something to absolutely be very mad about... but there is no evidence pointing to that. I wish BHVR would make a statement regarding this. I think it would help ease some people's anxiety.
BHVR has said many times they do NOT do exclusives. Legacy Skins were the last of that business and I guess Stranger Things fell into the category by unforeseen circumstances.
The Halloween skins are here for the Halloween season. November will roll around and they will be replaced by Christmas skins/ rift. Those Christmas skins will be there for the Christmas season and then gone until next year.
Do we really need to have Halloween and Christmas skins available to purchase all year round? Seasonal skins are part of the excitement for seasonal events. If I miss a seasonal skin, see someone running around with one in May, and think 'Wow I love that Dwight skin! I can't wait to have it!', that makes me excited for next Halloween. I have something to look forward to.
FOMO sucks. I have missed out on plenty across a variety of games (looking at you OW). The fact is I only have so much time to play games and I need to pick and choose which events I can participate in. I also only have so much disposable income. I can only spend X amount towards online cosmetics purchases. Once that money is used that's it. No more skins. It sucks when I really want something and I don't have the money, but that's just life right? I am sure most of you are just like me in regard to this.
The fact is I will miss out, and I have learned to accept it and be okay with it for my own mental and finical well-being. Probably going to get hate for saying this but people need to be okay with missing out on things, or not being able to afford something right away. At some point, personal responsibility needs to kick in. Whether that be boycotting any company that does do limited time/ stock tactics and avoiding it altogether, or simply budgeting for things you do want. You need to do what is right for you.
I understand why people are upset here, but I feel like none of this is new nor worth this level of outrage. Companies need to make money and an excellent way of doing that is by putting stuff up for sale for a limited time, or with limited stock. If you do not support this then, by all means, don't. However, lots of people, myself included, don't play into these tactics and just save for things they really want. When a cosmetic does pop up that I really want I have that money squirreled away. (Crossing fingers for Halloween Claudette skin).
I guess what I am trying to say is that yah limited time sucks, but it's understandable from a business perspective, and it's definitely not something to be in a rage about. If these are exclusives then @ me and I will come join the fight ^^
You'd have a point, if BHVR had put out a statement confirming that these items will ALWAYS return in the following years.
Until they do so, they are inducing FOMO and pushing more people to buy an item because we don't know whether it will be available again or not.
There's the other reason why we are upset about it: who guarantees that only seasonal items will be available only for limited periods of time? If we don't put our foot down now to send a message to BHVR, they'll surely do this for other things, things that have no rights being time-limited as well, and next thing you know they implement a rotational shop, allowing you to buy something only during a specific week, and only for real money, with no chance of it being discounted during that week.
Would you be fine with the next Halloween chapter to be a pumpkin-related killer/survivor and to be time-limited because "Well it's an event chapter, you can buy it next Halloween"?
Whether that be boycotting any company that does do limited time/ stock tactics and avoiding it altogether, or simply budgeting for things you do want.
I personally choose the first option. No company will ever receive a cent from me on limited-time content. Because I don't like those kind of tactics, and I don't want companies that are NOT employing them to think it's fine to do so. But the more people I get on my side, the better, otherwise it's useless.
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@Satelit said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3236289#Comment_3236289
Because Feng players who don't have it already are happy to spend money asap.She's the most profitable survivor by far.
That's why you DON'T release a time limited skin for her: so that NEW Feng players can throw you money for that skin as soon as they start playing.
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Demo is best killer.
Demo will scream at you because you said otherwise.
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@Phasmamain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3235237#Comment_3235237
You’d be right. I did use leftover cells from last rift to buy it so it was no money out of my pocket.
But FOMO is going to encourage me to buy less skins as it does in every game that has it. If Haddie’s next skin in 2025 ends up being limited time I’m not buying it
I did use leftover cells from last rift to buy it so it was no money out of my pocket.
BHVR doesn't know that.
All they know is you bought a time-limited skin with cells. For them, that's money gained from you.
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@I_am_Negan said:
What Feng and Clown skins?
Mime Feng and Pumpkin Eater Clown, they were part of the Rift last year
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@Phasmamain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3235230#Comment_3235230
You’re 100% right. The thing is though people like me will just buy them regardless. It does lead some people to impulse buy which is why it’s so popular especially in other games though
That's why people like you NOT buying a skin solely because it leverages FOMO would give a much more effective message to them
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@Phasmamain said:
Me who buys all Jane skins the day they come out 😎
On a serious note this sucks. Dbd was one of the few safe havens from FOMO and it’s now going in a direction I don’t want to support. Let’s hope this was just a test run and the feedback leads them to never do this again
I hope you didn't buy the Jane skin this time
Otherwise you'd just be part of the "Reasons to keep doing this" checklist on BHVR's side unfortunately
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@bm33 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3235040#Comment_3235040
They'll be in here claiming that it's OK because rift is supposed to be time limited exclusives even though when they announced it on stream and later on in (now deleted) blog post they said the outfits would be available in store 6 months later for those that missed out. The defenders will be here soon enough with their excuses for anti-consumer behavior by BHVR.
On one hand, I hope they'd get a reality check from BHVR when they'll use the same time-limited tactic on something else than skins
On the other hand, I wish BHVR would backtrack immediately on this ugly-ass decision because I don't want this crap in DBD