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@pemberley said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/484837#Comment_484837
I mean you’re right (and it’s funny/scary) but I mean unless you had a death wish or you’re foolish, you wouldn’t WILLINGLY stick around with a Michael breathing down your neck. People do that to Freddy though and that’s definitely some bs.
@pemberley Agreed, I know as a survivor that a Freddy is no real threat, (unless they, surprise, have H:DH) and that's sad to not really fear any killer I mean by the time he's put you in the dream world, a smart survivor will have made it to a loop/safe zone.
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@pemberley said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/484812#Comment_484812
Unhooking was never the problem. You shouldn’t even be near the hook as Freddy. Get some bbq on that boi and find other survivors to sleep.
The problem is finishing gens, waking up, healing, etc. right in front of Freddy. That’s the problem. You wouldn’t keep working on a gen with a Michael towering over you, so the same should go for Freddy. You get slept, you RUN.
Are you sure about that though? I've waited minutes before people realise I'm there as a Mikey. It's funny to wait it out behind them or at a window, you can almost hear the ticking. 😂
In all seriousness though people above are right, it's when they're on gens, wounded/healing and stab themselves to stop the transition or waking each other up in front of you, there needs to be more than a slight debuff to fear the dream world (and more to Freddy's power than I can actually hit you now, let the looping ensue like any other killer, let's be fair the only real benefit of his power is the class photo and the distance aura reading, I dread the thought that maybe if you are in the dream world you're exposed somehow if you're in too long which would be terrifying and an incentive to get out sooner but something is needed.
All things aside, the unhooking and the adrenaline epidemic is what's going to kick you in the pants. You literally can't do much if they unhook in front of you successfully. I played Freddy up to rank 5 prior to a reset in one sitting from rank 12 and even though this was a while ago my play fair motto thing didn't go well with all the old DS, flashlights and every survivor having adrenaline...
Basically rank 20-8 Freddy feels powerful but at any high rank 5 and above against a competent team it's time to enjoy despair. I just hope the rework buffs him without changing his playstyle too much (I'll never forget the joy of seeing a survivor enter a locker just as I walk up to them)
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Just going to drop these here, anyone else have anything new?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIyPtc6LSJU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ea_7J1hffs(Honestly found mudvayne via the saw movie soundtrack while looking up the full movie plot years ago - probably like 5-6 now. But ended up loving their sound from this song onwards- happy, rain sun gone, fall into sleep, scarlet letters, etc. This song is still good after all that 💖)
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People would expect a main here (Mikey) but that's "business as usual" for me (so are hag/freddy/wraith/pig but they are my normal rotation), not saying it's not fun, but I'm saying when I really want to switch it up for something different and fun I'd play spirit, huntress,trapper or doctor. Am I trash with 2 of those? Yes, because I've barely played them. Are they still fun to play anyway? Yes.
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Yeah I play matches with all my survivors and it kinda makes them more than just skins, because they all have different bloodweb RNG so some have perks I wouldn't normally use in a build but they're the best I have so I go for it. It's fun that way, I feel it would get pretty boring to look at the same character and hear the same audio for the rest of my dbd survivor days personally.
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I love running this in a normal match and suddenly having all your teammates converge on you because of the aura reading is adorable. I've been running it in EGC on some characters but honestly, it helps a little but not as much as you'd think in a 1v1, considering pairing it with spine chill in some live matches soon to see if I can make it work. As above may be better to have perks that focus on being successful during the match, but I like to be prepared for endgame because my teammates sometimes...
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Haha matchmaking, I usually get purple-red rank survivors even as a green rank killer (don't play enough to get beyond purple generally, nor do I care to) and rank 2-4 killers at rank 8 survivor, and same as you if I'm at green rank survivor I get same rank killer as me but a bunch of rank 15s as well, what's new?
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@PhantomMask20763 haha I love that clown/Freddy one, Might draw the second one, it jumped out at me most. I can totally see ghost and Joey being friends too, thank you for contributing :) So many good ideas here. It was hard to pick which one to do. After I finish the spirit one above tonight I’ll get started.
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@ClogWench I’m on it, it’s 50% done, managed to get the sketch done last night, just needs colouring when I finish work. It is very cute as an idea, I really like it too.
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@TheRockstarKnight I’m glad you liked it, thank you so much, it was fun, I’m happy for people to stay here as long as they want. I’m generally seeing what jumps out at me to draw one of each persons headcanons (or which ever inspires me) but that doesn’t mean that the rest are any less fun to picture/read. :)
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@No_Mither_No_Problem Definitely cool, thanks for the contribution, might draw something for the first one as that one hit me most it’s adorable yet sad, I like we had some similar thoughts with the ghost, he’d be such a fanboy, nice addition to get autographs though hahaha perfect. Cool theory with the phone being the only remaining link to the outside world, something to think about...
Just letting you know about the drawing now so I remember and I also have that drawing time drain known as work tomorrow just in case there’s a delay, I’ll try to finish it ASAP though.
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@TheRockstarKnight I tried a quick sketch sorry if I didn’t do it justice I’ve never drawn either before, hag was really fun though might draw her more often, thanks for commenting, definitely very cute! I love the detail you put in and it’s adorable for Lisa to have a friend who sees her as a human not a monster and I can so see Lisa comforting Susie. I don’t mean just cute headcanons though, some dark ones might be interesting. I’m just trying to practice new things so thank you so much for joining the thread.
Sorry if I messed it up again. I’m doing these fast to improve my speed. I know I got the fabric on the wrong side because I flipped it mid sketch and didn’t revert it. RIP. Plus the background is fighting me sorry. -
@SlinkyJinky said:
Monitor & Abuse + [ Red Paint Brush ] = ZERO TERROR RADIUS FREDDY <3
I have gone up against one of these and it was super confusing. His red stain is what I had to pay attention to most around corners but with mind games he’s a beast. M&A/ tinkerer/reduced noise billy is also terrifying. But as above I agree with the hag ones, ninja hag with her height is amazing
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I guess it’s up to you, most will say it’s 100% required. I personally played without it for ages and had no problems (like you used dead rabbit and I also used j Myers memorial) I’m pretty new to using M&A myself (because it took centuries to come up in my blood web, so only used it for 20 or so matches). You’re more likely to get potential gen grabs and it’s good for sneaking up with one tap from ew3 (which I pair with discordance personally but surveillance is also good)
I’m going to take the less popular opinion here and say dead rabbit is generally enough, but most people swear by M&A. Honestly I’m loving BBQ more. My general build prior to MA was discordance, thanatophobia, H:DH, overcharge
My current build is BBQ, M&A, discordance and thanatophobia, I would say the best advice is to try with and without M&A ( switched with discordance or surveillance) yourself and see if you get value out of it in your matches. I think it’s a personal preference there aren’t really any “absolutely necessary” perks
If you play hag though please try M&A then you’ll see a true benefit of that perk.
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*cries in myers* I’ve seen the leatherboi mafia, Freddy’s b*tches, the legion gang, now a hag/Pig/spirit/nurse gang... guess I’ll go sit with the wraith/trapper/doctor/huntress/plague/clown outcasts :’(
(But 100% support the awesome mains in this thread, carry on the phantastic work,
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Ah I did the same a while ago, it was definitely a creative series, that dog scene and cgi skeleton dancing will never be erased though. They even added it as a scene in the Freddy’s dead movie credits and I was just like “ah, just as Freddy would have wanted, 10/10”
But yeah in all seriousness I guess it’s the downside of the power/Freddy being based on the darker atmosphere remake. Probably because there’s just so many ways he killed in the originals and they were kinda unique to the setting/person, makes a sad kind of sense to go for the generic remake.
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Really, you’ve never had a “daddy Myers” match? I still laugh remembering the first time but I was trying as a relatively fresh mikey to get the evil incarnate trophy (I was using tombstone piece and was getting 3k generally so crucify me for that later) and I had one particular match where a meg and a Dwight were just following me around everywhere crouched and getting super close to me the entire match and running around like they wanted to get tombstoned... unfortunately I had run out of stalk on those 2 and accidentally got overzealous on the other 2 survivors so I just stood there sadly realising my defeat. They actually started teabagging under hooks too when they realised with disappointment I wasn’t going to tombstone them (I was a little dead inside by that point) They were definitely amusing though. I am honestly so sorry for those matches if anyone recognises me. I thought tombstones were cool back then as a fresh killer, it’s so cringy to think back on it.
I also remember a trapper that slugged 3 survivors (myself included) with NOED at the end of a match on the game map and hooked no-one he just carried people to the opened gate and he just watched us all crawl out the gate while nodding furiously, slug races are always entertaining but rare.
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Definitely Ash for Ash, plus I generally get the dlcs anyway plague being my only real regret thus far. I tried his perks on the ps4 leak and wasn’t that thrilled but his voice lines, scream etc. are amazing. I basically main him and he’ll always be an “intense chases” character because killers expect MoM which I haven’t used on him ever. (Reminds me I haven’t got the adept yet)
I actually got him before watching evil dead (only watched it recently, what an experience) because he just seemed cool to me plus voice lines so...watching the movies after becoming an Ash main felt necessary. It was.
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@SlinkyJinky said:
[ Coxcombed Clapper ] for totally silent Wailing Bell + [ "The Ghost" - Soot ] 0 terror radius or red stain for 6 seconds after de-cloaking
Start de-cloaking around the corner of a gen. Swoop around with surprise attack speed boost for a gen grab.
Everyone expects Spirit Prayer Bead Stealth Gen grab. Nobody expects a Wraith to do it.
I love doing this 100% agree, no one expects an actual sneaky bing bong
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Plus you generally get the “you’re all just Killah Mainz” I play survivor 70% like sorry but MoMs going to be healthier now? Plus I do agree with most killer buffs (that aren’t blatantly biased much like I do with survivor buffs, remember me being the latest because they destroyed that perk) My icon defines only my killer side main plus mikey’s a general favourite due to loving the series, jeez maybe I should change it to Ash as he’s my new survivor main I’ll be more reputable that way in their eyes... the NOED icon comment made me laugh though.
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@53nation I get it definitely sometimes I put Myers back and play as hag, wraith, pig, trapper or freddy for a play style change, maining a character can get a little tedious. I’ve tried learning all the killers to be able to switch at will one day. Definitely try it. Vanity mirror + dead rabbit plus a preferred build is a fun main change for me. (Discordance, thanatophobia, BBQ, and H:DH or M&A/overcharge is my usual build BBQ is new for bp bonus)
Not going to say doctor would be a main for me but he’s definitely a fun change and is regarded as a master bp farmer plus he can cancel pallets/loops and has built in location info. Definitely nice to play a rotation of killers but still have a “main” in a sense (I only consider Myers my main by time played plus he has all perks just from playing as I play a killer to level them i.e they earn their own bp)
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@SlinkyJinky said:
@xChrisx Your wasting your breath man, these forums are nothing but a Killer fanboi echo chamber in which there is absolutely no interest in helping balance the game for the health, well being and future of their own game, only buffing their own selfish interests as if they where playing a single player game.
Sure even though I’ve seen killer mains agree with survivor perks buffs/QoL changes and I’m a survivor main who thinks this change is for the better. Both sides have their polarised posters sure but most on the forums are just over people complaining the second something is hinted at changing, they’re only testing it right now. Don’t pretend MoM was fair/balanced
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Okay as soon as I saw the MoM news I knew this would be coming. MoM is going to be changed so you have to do something to earn it. Not just “I got hit too many times, bonus” I’ve literally never played with this perk because of how broken it is. It’s not like it’s disappearing it’s just changing. Even with adrenaline you have to get all the gens up. With NOED you can break totems. MoM wasn’t healthy or balanced especially when combined with certain perks it can body a killer. I’m glad it’s changing. I basically main Ash right now, and I’m not disappointed. Also to those who say it’s ash’s best perk like I didn’t hear anyone saying that about Laurie when DS was changed... also I play Mikey and I’m not going to pretend DL, STBFL, or PWYF are useful for me (but are useful on other killers, like most perks, hence teachable)
It’s literally still going to exist. It’s just going to have prerequisites like every other powerful perk...
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@Raptorrotas said:
chaser calculation doesnt account for instantdowns of any kind or grabs. Same with Malicious.
This thing, just this. Also how are any trappers going with pipping? Has it changed?
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Just offering that you might actually be better off using a bp build with hag if you main her and don’t want doc. I’d say I’m more likely to max bp in a match as hag than Myers and I main him. Unless you’re going to stalk/ tier like a champ but still have long chases... But you can try it. Let me know if you have any success (I don’t usually farm so my experience is from a normal match with 3-4k)
As above for bp ToTH and distressing with BBQ is good. If you’re dead set on Myers though mirrors give bonus bp but prevent you from tiering (so you’ll miss a bit of deviousness bp but get 150% bonus on it) but gives a different play style definitely let me know how it goes.
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No it's been a thing for a while and mentioned in a few other posts, hopefully it gets picked up/fixed soon. It's happened to me personally a while ago, just after finishing a gen and other players were still in the match. Pretty rare for most, but it's definitely a problem.
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Maybe
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^^ Excellent point as well to tell if you were successful+ you'll get a "killer blind" bp score event notification
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@Yohan definitely hold it, throw a rave party for the killer and you will not like the result. Actually when the killer is breaking a pallet is true, they are animation locked, but it's super annoying so also expect a bad end (it also sadly works while they are DS stunned but please don't-happened to me with old DS). Just hold the cue button and aim at the killers eyes. It works at any point really. Just make sure you time it well, not too early especially when going for a flashlight rescue/save. ( I think they basically have to be at the towards the end of the pick up animation but people can correct me if I'm wrong)
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@Hex_Flex said:
I want my old remember me when vs a team of 2 or more when gens are powered. If its a 1v1 sure, fine, nerf it to hell for just that situation. It should work as it did pre EGC when 2+ are alive still and gates are powered. Nobody had a problem with this perk prior as it was.
Yeah @Hexyl , this is what I was trying to get across too but words are failing me today. Agree 100% though. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I can almost bet blood warden will get a nerf soon though so I hope remember me does get this small buff/nerf reversion (treemanXD bringing up that other known freddy perk...) 😂
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@MonsterInMyMind said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/478428#Comment_478428
Another idea i have been playing with is once the EGC starts the last survivors becomes the obsession and gains the ability to open the gate at normal speed like before.
That would be pretty good too, it keeps its effectiveness while respecting EGC difficulty changes for a last survivor.
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Yeah, I do get what you mean to remove it at EGC but that would imply that one gate is already open if it's a whole team scenario and thus keeping remember me on the other gate would still be desired, maybe just keep it as it was but reduce it's effectiveness based on if it's EGC or based on how many survivors are left?
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I changed the original post because I missed something you said, sorry I was skimming.
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Maybe keep it always only if it's not solo or two survivors (EGC)? Against a team I can see it being okay EGC or not. I like the gone at EGC but if it's a full team that might make the perk undesirable again.
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Scratched mirror is only a real threat on lery's and the game at best, I wouldn't call it OP like the tombstones (more situational). Vanity mirror is where it's at if you want to play it at any time and get kills.
(although did get 2k with scratched mirror on that massive 2 sided autohaven map - azarov's- but that was eons ago, they were mostly messing with me because I was so slow and new to killer in general hence using it on that map
RIP, and a laurie DC'd at the gate while waiting to teabag me, I still laugh because she got that sweet insta karma.) -
Yeah, kinda sad about this, I only got shape, nightmare and legion prior to the changes, logically it should just be getting the no one escapes score category as survivor equivalent is just escape. I don't get why it was made double pip when double pipping became more difficult (if not near impossible depending on what 3 perks you're doomed to use).
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Bookmarking for reference, love some of the suggestions by @turkeysubs could be fun for a nice change (especially loving the doctor one as I have a strange affinity for overcharge). Bing bong often comes up in my killer rotation but I feel his build is lacking and I'm obsessed with windstorm lately, hope more wraith mains come in with ideas. 💖
Sorry I don't have much to suggest as I run a pretty straightforward build with him, just wanted to thank those who contribute to this thread
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@TreemanXD Rainbow road was amazingly fun, I think maple treeway was my absolute favourite personally though, with all the little boosts etc you could get. (+ the drifting was insane if you could nail it)
Waluigi? perfect.👍️ Always felt like mario, peach, yoshi and DK were a little too lucky at times...🤔
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@Eninya said:
I had this happen on the hatch not too long ago. Feels bad. I had perfect timing. :(
@Eninya I've had that one happen too, got sneaky and really close with tier 2 vanity mirror and could see their aura through a rock, decided to try to grab and it was perfectly timed but turned into an attack. I know that timing works too because I'd caught out survivors with it before.
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@Boss That's what I meant, but I'd rather haste be the permanent change, it would be a bonus to running it even if I don't get it to the insane ability level, having said that as I generally play as a myers I would not complain about using a perk I actually like (H:DH) for a speed boost compared to the alternative (PWYF) which has no other use to running it (but is good on spirit 100%).
We both know it's rare for H:DH to last more than 30s after someone goes down from exposed if the team plays well (but another bonus is they're not doing gens anymore). It is in a solid spot but like you said, make it more consistent or remove it. The haste is just so pitiful it barely matters and just RIP if you get a bad spawn and you don't even get to 3 tokens though.
But you're right, it won't get touched, but personally I'd rather 2-3 tokens be useful (haste then exposed) than the mori if I had to choose what part was removed/changed in exchange (as this also seems to be a trend).
Edit: Also I know it seems redundant to use an exposed perk on myers but that's why it's perfect, they never see it coming.
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@Boss Not gonna lie, I didn't even notice this half haste was a thing until recently and I use this perk A LOT. The fact that it literally makes no noticeable difference until 3rd hooking is a little much (considering current totem placements can make this perk a little too RNG even if it is more sneaky than ruin). I just looked at the old notes on the wiki too. Gen progression penalty at 2 tokens what?? (sounds good but probably caused them to find it sooner) At least a speed boost wouldn't be that noticeable or detrimental (to your totem that is)
The speed boost would also make it more viable but not OP especially when you compare it to NOEDs haste (which is constant until destroyed)
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@Boss 2 token permanent speed boost (until totem is broken) when? 10s after a hooking really? It'd be nice as it generally gets found by token 3 anyway
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@CashelP14 Haven't tried the new one yet because I've rarely seen it drop in price (in fact I've seen it go up occasionally and I recently put down money for BL3 already, spiderman was more a childhood thing for me so it keeps getting pushed back by other games...) but I loved the freeroam in the ps2 version, I used to just to latch on to helicopters and jump from the tallest skyscraper just to swing at the last second before hitting the ground. It felt really smooth at the time (ofc I'd hope a newer version would be better haha). Looking forward to trying the new one soon though.
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Yeah I've had this a few times in the past, not sure what causes it because it's not consistent. Still not as bad as getting stuck in a grab animation of a person who has/is DC'ing on a gen. I think I was screaming internally and externally because I couldn't move for a full minute and other survivors kept doing the gen infront of me. Grabs just don't seem like what they used to be.
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@PigNRun YES, twinsanity was amazing. Crash of the titans was also pretty good. I just have a nostalgia for the 2nd game in particular because my sister and I used to switch control when we died and tag teamed that entire game 😂 Not unpopular at all to me, I get it, I just personally had fun because I played it as a challenge with family
HOW COULD I FORGET SIMPSONS HIT AND RUN?? THAT WAS A GEM. Great reminder 👍️ Also not entirely murder investigation but I did really enjoy Heavy rain, LA Noire and the dangan ronpa series (that last one is cringy but I liked collecting evidence, class trials and the style and the executions etc, it was such a mashup of murder and cutesy)
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@TreemanXD Definitely, I used to play them both a lot with my sister when we were kids, good memories. What was your favorite track in mario kart and favourite character to play as in mario party 8?
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Hmm these are probably based on age I was at the time so in descending order...
Ps3: Bioshock series (mostly 1-2), fallout series (New vegas and 3), silent hill HD, borderlands series, infamous 1/2
Wii: Mario kart obviously, mario party 8, Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers (this game was so pretty even though it was on the wii like #########)
Ps2: Ratchet and clank series, spiderman 2 (also used to love watching my dad play The Thing game, he tried to get me to play it but just no, I thought it was horrifying at the time -2002- but interesting enough to watch
this coming from the child who had no problems with MK rip)ps1: Crash series and spyro series
Sega genesis: Mortal kombat (yes this was my first game and I played this as a child around the same time as the ps1 above so rip) apparently I also loved Alex Kidd but I have no memory of this???
Also played DS but let's just admit that was purely pokemon as a kid. -
Yeah I feel the same, I've had full stacks of Devour hope and continued hooking them until they were either A) final hook then mori or B) just hook them the last time, same with if I take an ivory mori now. But I think it's only partial, because if someone is going out of their way to make me miserable I will mori/destroy them. I literally take a tombstone piece or ivory mori for that special survivor in the group sometimes. I still don't camp/tunnel them but I will make sure they do not leave the trial alive.
I've rarely had a complaint either from my playstyle, they know what they did. In my experience survivors are only salty if you held back (gave someone the hatch etc) so I don't do it anymore. Although I do remember one memorable DC after a Claudette hook farmed in front of me while I had EW3 and I went for her, she insta DC'd some people can't handle when killers play fair and call out their toxic playstyle.
Be careful though, I've had a match where I turned a blind eye to a survivor who was just unhooked and went elsewhere only to have the survivors all body me at the end because I held back too much. There's a fine line. Kill to your best, but keep in mind they are your opponents and will take advantages if you give them the chance. You can play fair but still play well as I do this personally and get no salt and have done so up to rank 5. Higher you go though, the less viable playing entirely nice is. Just a warning.