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I can agree Mori's can be reworked. Only if the hatch mechanic is reworked as well as keys.Peanits said:@Gardenia said:
Peanits said:@Gardenia said:
Vietfox said:
Moris can kill before reaching the 2nd hook stage.
Yet In that time chasing you finally downing you, about 1-2 gens are popped. Not even factoring looping. Or flashlight saves, or even bodyblocking....
I'm all for keys being nerfed, but moris are basically the killer equivalent. I feel like it's sorta' silly to want one removed while defending the other.
Is it really though? Because I technically have to chase and down someone twice to finally mori someone. And if you factor in all that additional stuff, you'll barely have time to use that mori, and if you do you can get 1k. I agree with Vietfox that competent killers can 4k, but any competent killer vs a swf or even rank 1 survivors are going to have an extremely difficult time. Ruin barely does anything in high ranks. Because Survivors are used to finding totems. However, when you finally get to at least down or touch someone 1-2 gens are popped, it's madness!
Then you have the key, which is just broken.
Mori's have conditions similar to a key, the only difference is the condition for survivors to use the key is way more easier than the killers. We have to hook someone to use the mori.They have to have at least a 2-3 gens done and find the hatch (which isn't hard to find these days considering people have played this game thousands of hours), no time taken to open it, and viola, everyone can escape just right then and there.
I would argue that if you can't down someone twice before all the generators are done, you lost and you don't deserve to kill them. Same way if the survivors can't manage to power the generators before the killer kills everyone they don't deserve to win.
Even then, the survivors need to repair the number of survivors alive + 1 generators to even use the key, so it's no different from a mori. Both sides have to put a little bit of effort in to use it, it's not just an instant win. I'm down for both being nerfed, but nerfing one and not the other is silly.
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Listen everyone, I'm not trying to stir the pot. But it's difficult enough with how many items the survivors have. Even as survivor i barely use items because it's a significant advantage.
What I'm saying is the key at least need to be looked at or tweaked.
Matter of fact, the entire hatch mechanic just needs a rework because that's the core issue. The hatch and gens ... -
IDK why it said I had to have my comment approved after editing but here was my last response:
Is it really though? Because I technically have to chase and down someone twice to finally mori someone. And if you factor in all that additional stuff, you'll barely have time to use that mori, and if you do you can get 1k. I agree with Vietfox that competent killers can 4k, but any competent killer vs a swf or even rank 1 survivors are going to have an extremely difficult time. Ruin barely does anything in high ranks. Because Survivors are used to finding totems. However, when you finally get to at least down or touch someone 1-2 gens are popped, it's madness!
Then you have the key, which is just broken.
Mori's have conditions similar to a key, the only difference is the condition for survivors tonuse the key is way more easier than the killers. We have to hook someone to use the mori.They have to have at least a 2-3 gens done and find the hatch (which isn't hard to find these days considering people have played this game thousands of hours), no time taken to open it, and viola, everyone can escape just right then and there.
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Is it really though? Because I technically have to chase and down someone twice to finally mori someone. And if you factor in all that additional stuff, you'll barely have time to use that mori, and if you do you can get 1k. I agree with Vietfox that competent killers can 4k, but any competent killer vs a swf or even rank 1 survivors are going to have an extremely difficult time. Ruin barely does anything in high ranks. Because Survivors are used to finding totems. However, when you finally get to at least down or touch someone 1-2 gens are popped, it's madness!Peanits said:@Gardenia said:
Vietfox said:Moris can kill before reaching the 2nd hook stage.
Yet In that time chasing you finally downing you, about 1-2 gens are popped. Not even factoring looping. Or flashlight saves, or even bodyblocking....
I'm all for keys being nerfed, but moris are basically the killer equivalent. I feel like it's sorta' silly to want one removed while defending the other.
Then you have the key, which is just broken.
Mori's have conditions similar to a key, the only difference is the condition for survivors to use the key is way more easier than the killers. We have to hook someone to use the mori.
They have to have at least a 2-3 gens done and find the hatch (which isn't hard to find these days considering people have played this game thousands of hours), no time taken to open it, and viola, everyone can escape just right then and there. -
Yet In that time chasing you finally downing you, about 1-2 gens are popped. Not even factoring looping. Or flashlight saves, or even bodyblocking....Vietfox said:Moris can kill before reaching the 2nd hook stage.
I also have to down you again, if I even have time to waste... -
As a Julie Legion Main, I wholeheartedly support this idea. I would also love a Unique Julie Cosmetic similar to the treatment Joey and Susie got.
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I am speaking from my Experience. So there's no need to take it personally.OrionsFury4789 said:
The same can be said when the killer does it and I lose my offering, my purple flashlight and all my add ons when they pull the plug mid game or in loading screen, something should be done about both don't pretend like it's only impacting killersGardenia said:As Killer it's infuriating when you use an ultra rare offering or add-on and then a swf comes along and they all dc upon the loading screen.
You should be able to keep your offerings or add-on when that happens.
Especially since as killer you don't even pip when that happens you merely safety pip with almost no gain in BP.
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Why are you blaspheming legion, they are too low on the darn list lol
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Yes exactlyMilord said:
I think OP meant stop punishing killers if all player DC (by letting them keep add-ons), not add punishment to DCing player.powerbats said:@Gardenia said:
As Killer it's infuriating when you use an ultra rare offering or add-on and then a swf comes along and they all dc upon the loading screen.You should be able to keep your offerings or add-on when that happens.
Especially since as killer you don't even pip when that happens you merely safety pip with almost no gain in BP.
Please if you can, look into this.
It could be a crash, they're all on the same shared internet ie college dorm there's lots of reasons for it and are you for punishing all the killers that do the same?
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You will need to wait until the trial is completely over to see the perks. If you want to know all you have to do is wait.
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@HatCreature said:
From my understanding it lessens the stun after exiting Frenzy but I don't think they're powerful enough because even with Cold Dirt I barely notice any difference.You don't notice the difference until you don't use it. Usually it's a stun of 4 seconds or slightly more. If you use cold dirt it can go to 2-3 seconds. Pair Julie or Joey's Mixtape with cold dirt and the stun reduces to just a second. Alternatively if you don't have cold dirt you can combine Julie and Joey's Mixtape, to get almost the same effect.
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If you're concerned about balance all they have to do is make it to where he loses a bit of his meter when he misses an attack in frenzy.
And slightly nerf FMT. Instead of considerably decreasing the deep Wound gauge, make it where it moderately, or slightly does so. Or Rework it to speed up the timer slightly, while taking away the additional damage.
Almost like a delay of action. They won't bleed out fast until they're gone.
The in built FMT should stay though, however the add-on should be looked at.
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@I_Eat_Worms said:
from my experienceFrank mains: most of them just bought the legion and are actually pretty good, but are probably only playing frank because they don't want to spend money for the others
Julie mains: im surprised barely anyone plays her so idk
Joey mains: usually the most experienced and edgy players who are good at dbd and legion
Susie mains: they usually are really bad at the game, but ok at playing legion, pretty much every one of them just buys legion because they are attracted to Susie
btw i like frank the most
I'm a Julie Main, were the ones you underestimate and when we beat you, you're like "#########?"
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@Milord said:
In particular, Joey or Susie designs. Who's Frank/Julie? Never heard of them before.The OG characters of Legion. The main guy and main girl.
Julie is the first Female version and Frank is the Original Male Version.
Julie is heavily underrated, her cosmetics are great.
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I wish we could get a golden mask for Legion. My Julie would love that with her Muddy outfit, along with the modern Karambit.
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Any thoughts on this?
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@JanTheMan said:
Yeah... Times were my Lithe doesn't activate 😤That happens too lol
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I agree with consumption of parts of the meter.
If they don't do that then slightly nerf Frank's Mixtape to moderately or slightly doing damage to the gauge rather than considerably. Same for Stab Wound Study.
However if they go with those two add-on nerfs then base timer should be slightly faster.
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Legion does not need that stunned for a missed frenzy, especially when it's called frenzy for a Reason. Something else, but people can actually dodge the knife quite easily when in frenzy with legion.
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@Underdose said:
TL;DR: Frank’s mix tape is problematic. Here are some suggestions to change what it does.With the new PTB, Legion is having some changes tested out. Whilst I think these are good changes that should come to the live server, they’ve made Frank’s mix tape, an already slightly problematic addon, even better. Rather than revert the Legion changes, I’d like to suggest the add-on be changed instead. Here’s a list of possibilities I came up with:
1) Scratch marks are now visible during Feral Frenzy.
2) Normal attacks no longer deplete the power gauge.
3) Moderately increases Feral Frenzy speed and duration.
Slightly increases the time it takes to mend.4) Tremendously increases Feral Frenzy speed.
Blood trails are no longer visible whilst in Feral Frenzy.5) “Killer instinct” (seeing heartbeats of survivors) is always active whilst in Feral Frenzy (without having to hit anyone first), but at half the distance.
Whilst I’m at it, here’s an idea for a red add-on, to replace the rarely-used fuming mix tape:
Whilst in Feral Frenzy:
You can no longer vault pallets.
Destroy pallets and break generators 50% faster.
You are immune to being stunned.My point is, there are a lot of different add-ons that could be made, and Frank’s mix tape is currently not fun for either killer or survivor. It could do with being changed.
I actually like The Fuming Mixtape, it goes well with gen builds and keeping track of progress.
As for Franks Mixtape, I think it should stay.
I don't think it needs to be reworked either. My opinion.
EDIT: Actually, just set it to instead of considerably damaging the deepwound gauge, make it either slightly or moderately.
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@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Bbbrian2013 said:@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Bbbrian2013 said:
@DwightsLifeMatters said: Bbbrian2013 said:
@DwightsLifeMatters said: Bbbrian2013 said:
@SenzuDuck said: @Bbbrian2013 said: @SadonicShadow said: @Bbbrian2013 said: @ScottJund said: No, almost nobody likes the proposed changes. How would you make him strong then? He shouldn't need mix tape to be viable. Every killer should be useable man... I dont think many people would argue against that. He should for sure be made viable and useable without addons as all killers should be. The problem with Legion is his power at its very core is the worst of both worlds. He is extremely unfair and has almost zero counterplay as survivor yet as killer he is trash tier and worse than freddy at securing kills. I agree when people say he needs to be reworked. He needs to be both fair and strong and right now he is neither. I dont have a solution but we cant simply buff and nerf our way out of this. He needs a fundamental rework. Legion is just poorly designed mechanically. So you're saying we either get this buff or we wait a year or more for a rework... This is Freddy all over again this buff HAS to go through then rework in a year. Don't let him be useless for a year. No, not when you can insta down with ultra fast pallet and window jumps there's no counter. There doesn't need to be a counter. What is Nurses counter? We could finally have a second S tier killer. Survivors have always been strong why can't killers?
You mindgame nurse, double backs and running straight line around a corner to confuse her, after the stun (she looks at the ground) you can use it lose her. Also, playing nurse requires a lot of skill and practise, while Legion not. Yeah i don't see the issue with an S tier killer that is easy to use. This isn't an esports game. A killer that you can pick up and just stab things with not have to think and do well sounds good to me. Killer is stressful we need an easy fun one not told to go play civ
Why do you play a PvP game in the first place then? Just play against bots lol I would if DbD had single player.
So, just because it hasn't we all should bend around you so you can get ur "bot experience" but against real persons? Come on lad. I wouldn't mind the buff if Legion had counterplay. But the combination of no counterplay + recent buff + no skill needed is so stupid, that everyone who defends this is basically admitting that he has 0 game knowledge about DbD.
My guy Legion has the potential to be what every killer main has been wanting for years. An easy solution to looping and toxic survivors. We press a button and ignore the bs parts of the game that have caused even top killers like Marth to quit.
Killers could have fun again with this Legion. Killers are supposed to be op and scary power role vs 4 weak ones.
I play killer a lot and Legion is 100% not what I want. Yeah, killers like trapper are weak, but at least you work for your kills and feels awesome to 4k. But with Legion I feel no satisfaction and I kinda regret it that I spend so much points into him (he's p3 since 2 weeks).
Just watch damnnohtml, he breaks down why Legion is unhealthy for DbD.
But glad that you admit that you want your 4ks without working for it.And yet his opinion is not the end all be all. There are many people who disagree.
And if it was so clear that he was bad for this game, legion wouldn't exist.
So clearly the devs are hinting at something to change with the introduction of this character, idk maybe a change in the way survivors play the game to escape, discouraging looping, bodyblocking and etc.
The devs have purpose for their actions it's not always Willy nilly.
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@mgs2020 said:
@Gardenia said:
@mgs2020 said:
@Gardenia said:
Sa> @Bbbrian2013 said:@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Bbbrian2013 said:@SenzuDuck said:
@Bbbrian2013 said:
@SadonicShadow said:
@Bbbrian2013 said:
@ScottJund said:
No, almost nobody likes the proposed changes.
How would you make him strong then? He shouldn't need mix tape to be viable. Every killer should be useable man...
I dont think many people would argue against that. He should for sure be made viable and useable without addons as all killers should be. The problem with Legion is his power at its very core is the worst of both worlds. He is extremely unfair and has almost zero counterplay as survivor yet as killer he is trash tier and worse than freddy at securing kills. I agree when people say he needs to be reworked. He needs to be both fair and strong and right now he is neither. I dont have a solution but we cant simply buff and nerf our way out of this. He needs a fundamental rework. Legion is just poorly designed mechanically.
So you're saying we either get this buff or we wait a year or more for a rework...
This is Freddy all over again this buff HAS to go through then rework in a year. Don't let him be useless for a year.
No, not when you can insta down with ultra fast pallet and window jumps there's no counter.
There doesn't need to be a counter. What is Nurses counter?
We could finally have a second S tier killer. Survivors have always been strong why can't killers?
You mindgame nurse, double backs and running straight line around a corner to confuse her, after the stun (she looks at the ground) you can use it lose her. Also, playing nurse requires a lot of skill and practise, while Legion not.
Yeah i don't see the issue with an S tier killer that is easy to use. This isn't an esports game. A killer that you can pick up and just stab things with not have to think and do well sounds good to me.
Killer is stressful we need an easy fun one not told to go play civ and deal with weak killers.
Same, why do they feel they have to dictate what's skillful or not when they important thing is to have fun. Not every killer should need thousands of hours to be very good. That's part of legions charm to me, he breaks down so many "rules" and expectations survivors have for a killer.
He is honestly needed to shake things up in this game right now tbh.
Yes its fun for you as the killer maybe. Mindless fun though is the problem. Mindless fun is fine against AI. When there is other people playing on the other side of the mindless fun that is where the issue comes in.
But aren't you the survivor, shouldn't you feel stressed?
If it's not Nurse, Billy, Hag, spirit or huntress. You all are the predators(you as in Survivor), not the "killer"
Lol if this game was actually ment to stress a survivor out, there goes your player base, stress is not fun, fear can be but stress no.
All those killers you mentioned have counter play, nurse with the least but its still there. Legion basically results in a pallet standoff, that's your counter play when found. We all know standoffs aren't fun =P
So are you implying that a challenge for survivors or increase of difficulty means they will leave other than actually trying?
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@mgs2020 said:
@Gardenia said:
Sa> @Bbbrian2013 said:@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Bbbrian2013 said:@SenzuDuck said:
@Bbbrian2013 said:
@SadonicShadow said:
@Bbbrian2013 said:
@ScottJund said:
No, almost nobody likes the proposed changes.
How would you make him strong then? He shouldn't need mix tape to be viable. Every killer should be useable man...
I dont think many people would argue against that. He should for sure be made viable and useable without addons as all killers should be. The problem with Legion is his power at its very core is the worst of both worlds. He is extremely unfair and has almost zero counterplay as survivor yet as killer he is trash tier and worse than freddy at securing kills. I agree when people say he needs to be reworked. He needs to be both fair and strong and right now he is neither. I dont have a solution but we cant simply buff and nerf our way out of this. He needs a fundamental rework. Legion is just poorly designed mechanically.
So you're saying we either get this buff or we wait a year or more for a rework...
This is Freddy all over again this buff HAS to go through then rework in a year. Don't let him be useless for a year.
No, not when you can insta down with ultra fast pallet and window jumps there's no counter.
There doesn't need to be a counter. What is Nurses counter?
We could finally have a second S tier killer. Survivors have always been strong why can't killers?
You mindgame nurse, double backs and running straight line around a corner to confuse her, after the stun (she looks at the ground) you can use it lose her. Also, playing nurse requires a lot of skill and practise, while Legion not.
Yeah i don't see the issue with an S tier killer that is easy to use. This isn't an esports game. A killer that you can pick up and just stab things with not have to think and do well sounds good to me.
Killer is stressful we need an easy fun one not told to go play civ and deal with weak killers.
Same, why do they feel they have to dictate what's skillful or not when they important thing is to have fun. Not every killer should need thousands of hours to be very good. That's part of legions charm to me, he breaks down so many "rules" and expectations survivors have for a killer.
He is honestly needed to shake things up in this game right now tbh.
Yes its fun for you as the killer maybe. Mindless fun though is the problem. Mindless fun is fine against AI. When there is other people playing on the other side of the mindless fun that is where the issue comes in.
But aren't you the survivor, shouldn't you feel stressed?
If it's not Nurse, Billy, Hag, spirit or huntress. You all are the predators(you as in Survivor), not the "killer"
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@mgs2020 said:
@Gardenia said:
Sa> @Bbbrian2013 said:@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Bbbrian2013 said:@SenzuDuck said:
@Bbbrian2013 said:
@SadonicShadow said:
@Bbbrian2013 said:
@ScottJund said:
No, almost nobody likes the proposed changes.
How would you make him strong then? He shouldn't need mix tape to be viable. Every killer should be useable man...
I dont think many people would argue against that. He should for sure be made viable and useable without addons as all killers should be. The problem with Legion is his power at its very core is the worst of both worlds. He is extremely unfair and has almost zero counterplay as survivor yet as killer he is trash tier and worse than freddy at securing kills. I agree when people say he needs to be reworked. He needs to be both fair and strong and right now he is neither. I dont have a solution but we cant simply buff and nerf our way out of this. He needs a fundamental rework. Legion is just poorly designed mechanically.
So you're saying we either get this buff or we wait a year or more for a rework...
This is Freddy all over again this buff HAS to go through then rework in a year. Don't let him be useless for a year.
No, not when you can insta down with ultra fast pallet and window jumps there's no counter.
There doesn't need to be a counter. What is Nurses counter?
We could finally have a second S tier killer. Survivors have always been strong why can't killers?
You mindgame nurse, double backs and running straight line around a corner to confuse her, after the stun (she looks at the ground) you can use it lose her. Also, playing nurse requires a lot of skill and practise, while Legion not.
Yeah i don't see the issue with an S tier killer that is easy to use. This isn't an esports game. A killer that you can pick up and just stab things with not have to think and do well sounds good to me.
Killer is stressful we need an easy fun one not told to go play civ and deal with weak killers.
Same, why do they feel they have to dictate what's skillful or not when they important thing is to have fun. Not every killer should need thousands of hours to be very good. That's part of legions charm to me, he breaks down so many "rules" and expectations survivors have for a killer.
He is honestly needed to shake things up in this game right now tbh.
Yes its fun for you as the killer maybe. Mindless fun though is the problem. Mindless fun is fine against AI. When there is other people playing on the other side of the mindless fun that is where the issue comes in.
But aren't you the survivor, shouldn't you feel stressed trying to live? If it's not Nurse, Billy, Spirit, Hag or Huntress you all are the predator in this game (You as in reference to survivors) not the "killer".
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Oh I barely know about memes and such. I barely use twitch unless to support a friend lol
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In text no.
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Sa> @Bbbrian2013 said:
@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Bbbrian2013 said:@SenzuDuck said:
@Bbbrian2013 said:
@SadonicShadow said:
@Bbbrian2013 said:
@ScottJund said:
No, almost nobody likes the proposed changes.
How would you make him strong then? He shouldn't need mix tape to be viable. Every killer should be useable man...
I dont think many people would argue against that. He should for sure be made viable and useable without addons as all killers should be. The problem with Legion is his power at its very core is the worst of both worlds. He is extremely unfair and has almost zero counterplay as survivor yet as killer he is trash tier and worse than freddy at securing kills. I agree when people say he needs to be reworked. He needs to be both fair and strong and right now he is neither. I dont have a solution but we cant simply buff and nerf our way out of this. He needs a fundamental rework. Legion is just poorly designed mechanically.
So you're saying we either get this buff or we wait a year or more for a rework...
This is Freddy all over again this buff HAS to go through then rework in a year. Don't let him be useless for a year.
No, not when you can insta down with ultra fast pallet and window jumps there's no counter.
There doesn't need to be a counter. What is Nurses counter?
We could finally have a second S tier killer. Survivors have always been strong why can't killers?
You mindgame nurse, double backs and running straight line around a corner to confuse her, after the stun (she looks at the ground) you can use it lose her. Also, playing nurse requires a lot of skill and practise, while Legion not.
Yeah i don't see the issue with an S tier killer that is easy to use. This isn't an esports game. A killer that you can pick up and just stab things with not have to think and do well sounds good to me.
Killer is stressful we need an easy fun one not told to go play civ and deal with weak killers.
Same, why do they feel they have to dictate what's skillful or not when they important thing is to have fun. Not every killer should need thousands of hours to be very good. That's part of legions charm to me, he breaks down so many "rules" and expectations survivors have for a killer.
He is honestly needed to shake things up in this game right now tbh.
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And there are other people who like to play the legion as well. I'm not the only one.
Legion is controversial similar to nurse back when she was released.But hey shrug
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@Mc_Harty said:
@Swiftblade131 said:
I'll probably be playing till the PTB goes through no changes. Cause that is what will happen, and it will be a **** storm
I cannot wait for the mass DC against Legion.
And I can't wait til you all realize this massive DC can be predictable by devs. They're not dumb y'all lol
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You all keep throwing around skill to please some inflated ego because it was unpleasant for you. Idc, I love legion and I have fun as them.
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@Tzeentchling9 said:
How recently did you get those perks/cosmetics? Because the PTB uses an older save file than the live version.About a few days ago. It weird though because I have my prestiged stuff, but not my perks.
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You Know I replied but it's giving me something saying wait until the comments been approved. So you'll see the response soon I'm sure. But in Short, SB, Lithe, Stealth, timing when his power can't be used again, looking at his stance change for an indication of frenzy.
And also how the counters are proactive, not reactive. You'll see the full thing when its approved later.
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@ScottJund said:
undefined@Gardenia said:
@ScottJund said:
@Severus_Swiggleton said:
@ScottJund said:
Would you like to get a group together and KYF with me being Frank's Mixtape Legion? I'd love to watch you counter me!Yup, because one setup match should determine the fate of a patch. Reasonable.
What does that have to do with the patch? I'm just trying to find out a way to counter Legion and he seems to know how.
Not just me, literally all high ranking Survivors.
But you keep acting like I'm the only one who knows these things.If you don't know by now, then maybe you should stop whining about him and try to understand him.
I'm not getting into a match with you because it's one match, and especially if it's one on one there's no chance.
BECAUSE that doesn't simulate a real match at high rank. When you have multiple high rank survivors in red rank that know what they're doing, Legion gets destroyed. They've already learned to split in groups of two's and the other stuff I've listed.
Also, just because he downs you doesn't mean it's the end of the match, you have to get hooked 2 maybe 3 times. That's not to include items you bring in such as insta heals.
Take a chill pill dude.
You are really, really missing the point. When you, individually, get chased by Legion, there is nothing you, individually, can do. Its a very bad feeling and does not belong in a multiplayer game. Saying "just split up and do gens" isn't a counter to Legion, its a counter to everything in the game.
I didn't say to "Just split up and do gens". There are many factors to include. I've said before SB can counter and it's not far fetched considering it's meta, same as lithe.
Individually there are still things you can do to survive. Did you know that legions stance changes when he goes into frenzy?
Did you know you can time when he last used his power by that indicator.
And again that's not including stealth and there are counters.
It's just PROACTIVE, not reactive which people are used to. When you hear a terror radius, run. Try not to be seen as well.
Also individually speaking, all survivors will get downed by a competent killer eventually.
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@ScottJund said:
@Severus_Swiggleton said:
@ScottJund said:
Would you like to get a group together and KYF with me being Frank's Mixtape Legion? I'd love to watch you counter me!Yup, because one setup match should determine the fate of a patch. Reasonable.
What does that have to do with the patch? I'm just trying to find out a way to counter Legion and he seems to know how.
Not just me, literally all high ranking Survivors.
But you keep acting like I'm the only one who knows these things.If you don't know by now, then maybe you should stop whining about him and try to understand him.
I'm not getting into a match with you because it's one match, and especially if it's one on one there's no chance.
BECAUSE that doesn't simulate a real match at high rank. When you have multiple high rank survivors in red rank that know what they're doing, Legion gets destroyed. They've already learned to split in groups of two's and the other stuff I've listed.
Also, just because he downs you doesn't mean it's the end of the match, you have to get hooked 2 maybe 3 times. That's not to include items you bring in such as insta heals.
Take a chill pill dude.
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@ScottJund said:
@Gardenia said:
You guys have had about a month and a couple of days to adapt against him. Use SB and Lithe, stealth(real stealth, don't sit on a gen when you hear a terror radius move your behind.), And juke them like nurse because his biggest thing is sight, he can't see scratch marks when in frenzy.We have another good killer. I'm tired of having Survivors uproar over every little thing. If you ask me, they're the ones that pushed this type of gameplay. When you started looping way back when there had to be counters to it. Now we've gone to the next logical step and made a giant F-U to pallets. And because you can't loop him to death or actually have to use a bit more thinking to evade him, now it's "not fun".....
You've never played a single game against Legion in your life, have you?
Actually yes I have many times. And you know what happened? We miraculously have a higher escape rate against them....Gee I wonder why... Hmmmm...
Also as Legion high rank survivors do the things listed and manage to evade him.
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You guys have had about a month and a couple of days to adapt against him. Use SB and Lithe, stealth(real stealth, don't sit on a gen when you hear a terror radius move your behind.), And juke them like nurse because his biggest thing is sight, he can't see scratch marks when in frenzy.
We have another good killer. I'm tired of having Survivors uproar over every little thing. If you ask me, they're the ones that pushed this type of gameplay. When you started looping way back when there had to be counters to it. Now we've gone to the next logical step and made a giant F-U to pallets. And because you can't loop him to death or actually have to use a bit more thinking to evade him, now it's "not fun".....
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@ForeheadSurviors said:
I only like legion because of the cosmetic, kinda reminds me of the hunter from Destiny .Yes the cosmetics are very nice!
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@ToxicFengM1n said:
@Gardenia said:
I knew there was a very good reason we didn't have any live dev streams, its because you all were hard at work I knew it! Thank you for this patch and I can't wait to see what changes you all keep to the live version, thank you Not_queen and the entire dev team!
btw Legion is my fave but Julie needs a unique cosmetic?god, another person, my main is legion, what legion member to you run? (p2 julie is mine)
I actually run Julie as well, P3 here! Julie is criminally underrated.
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@Dwight_Confusion said:
I like the change. Keep it.Same
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Is this a group made on steam? I'd love to join I'm a Legion main as well (Julie)
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Thanks everyone, I almost forgot about that perk I don't play Michael much
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I heard their limp noodle add-on was op
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Don't get me wrong some addon are good it's just they are very vague in explanations. For Instance Julie's Mixtape and Joey's Mixtape are great in tandem to significantly lessen the stun time after using frenzy. Doubly so if you alternate with cold dirt and Julie/Joey's Mixtape. The stun only lasts about 1.5 seconds.
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Franks mixtape buff is needed. I would argue to slightly increase the duration of frenzy as well. Nothing drastic just small. The bar conservation buff they'll implement will be nice, but that is about it.
He/She will need some of their add-ons reworked for better viability.
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And what aspect would you suggest to nerf them in???
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Nope, it should be legion exclusive. If legion is bad then at least we get to have some of the best cosmetics. It's only fair.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD6qtc2_AQA