Stats? did someone say Stats?

We know that you love data as much as we do, and it's always something that raises a lot of discussion. We're sharing with you of some of the top used perks on both sides.

This is across all MMR ranges, and across all regions - remember some regions can play in a different way and therefore there might be perks that you personally don't see in your games, but we can assure you they are used.

With saying that - here we go:

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In order, they are: Jolt, Sloppy Butcher, Scourge Hook: Pain Resonance, Pop Goes the Weasel, Barbecue and Chilli, Lethal Pursuer, Corrupt Intervention, Nowhere to Hide, Save the Best for Last, and Hex: No One Escapes Death.

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In order, they are: Windows of Opportunity, Adrenaline, Resilience, Lithe, Self Care, Sprint Burst, Prove Thyself, Dead Hard, Bond, and Spine Chill.

This is something we'd like to do on a regular basis going forwards, so you can definitely expect to see more of these on a regular basis.

We know this is going to start a lot of discussion and as ever your feedback around these perks are invaluable!

The Dead by Daylight Team.

Comments

  • @Alice_pbg said:

    these are cool.

    can we see these but only for players that have every perk unlocked? is it possible?

    also... what is the survivor that escapes the most? and the least?

    and the most important one... most popular cosmetics for each character?

    Wouldn't be very useful info.

    I've been playing for nearly 3 years and have almost every perk unlocked, but I'm still missing a couple of Skull Merchant/Renato/Thalita's perks, and one of Elodies/Twins, as I never bought these characters.

  • @Seraphor said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3504438#Comment_3504438

    Wouldn't be very useful info.

    I've been playing for nearly 3 years and have almost every perk unlocked, but I'm still missing a couple of Skull Merchant/Renato/Thalita's perks, and one of Elodies/Twins, as I never bought these characters.

    so you do not have every perk.


    I wanna see what people pick when they can choose anything

  • @Alice_pbg said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3504442#Comment_3504442

    so you do not have every perk.

    I wanna see what people pick when they can choose anything

    You didn't infer my meaning.

    Most people won't have every perk. If there's a character who has all bad perks, they may not buy them. If you only look at players who have absolutely every perk, not only will this be a tiny, miniscule portion of players, but it will periodically drop every time a new chapter is released as well.

    You're basically only looking at career DBD streamers and players with a similar schedule.

    That data is not going to be useful.

  • @Seraphor said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3504443#Comment_3504443

    You didn't infer my meaning.

    Most people won't have every perk. If there's a character who has all bad perks, they may not buy them. If you only look at players who have absolutely every perk, not only will this be a tiny, miniscule portion of players, but it will periodically drop every time a new chapter is released as well.

    That data is not going to be useful.

    I also asked for most used cosmetic on all characters...

    do you think all I want is useful stuff? I'm just curious.

  • Is there any chance of getting stats for Solo Queue / SWF Escape rates?

  • Ah, Windows is the best perk.

    Who could have guessed?

  • I'm surprised to see sloppy boppy so high. Is it the mangled part?

    and I'm really surprised that Nurse's Calling didn't make the top 10. it's SO useful and powerful.

  • @dbdthegame said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3504004#Comment_3504004

    Perk was released in June, this data covers April to August. Do the math.

    The math says that MFT was out for at least half of that time so...

  • @powerpuffCheryl said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3504180#Comment_3504180

    The math says that MFT was out for at least half of that time so...

    Keep going

  • @powerpuffCheryl said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3504180#Comment_3504180

    The math says that MFT was out for at least half of that time so...

    "So..." what?

    Please explain why you think it wouldn't matter that a perk wasn't even getting counted for 47/99 days.

    And then account for people that didn't even get the character to unlock the perk.

  • what we can discuss? this stats are bare bones


    nerf swf and nurse

  • @Peanits said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3504069#Comment_3504069

    For add-ons, not likely for a few reasons.

    1. The data wouldn't be interesting or useful. Whereas perks have a roughly equal chance of being obtained - barring DLC/shrine requirements - add-ons have different chances to appear depending on their rarities. The top 10 would be full of low rarity but somewhat helpful add-ons that provide small improvements to your power.
    2. Killer popularity would heavily sway those stats. A somewhat popular add-on for the most popular Killer could easily outrank a very popular add-on for a lesser played Killer.
    3. Add-ons are unique to each Killer, so directly comparing them to one another in a single top 10 doesn't do much good. Meanwhile separate top 10s for each Killer is also out of the question when there's currently 32 Killers and counting (I sadly do not have enough time in the day to prepare all of those stats). But even if we did, going back to the first point, you would almost always see that the lower rarity add-ons are used more purely because they're easier to get.

    I'm always down for more transparency, but it's not really worth the time it takes to gather all that data just to reveal that common things are common.

    That's very understandable. I didn't know you had to (perhaps manually) gather the data on all the statistics, I thought it was always automated via the use of certain programs. That being said, there are certain Killers' add-ons that really need to be looked into but haven't been in a while. So it would've been really interesting to see some sort of data on a specific killer, Blight for example that uses Alch Ring and the number of games that are won vs the usage of other add-ons. But that might be way too much data to sift through. Thanks for your explanation though!

  • @BlueHorkew said:

    Thanks, this stats are cool.

    But seeing Self-care and Spine chill that high really scares me

    Self Care is notoriously popular in the Asian region. It's another reason why Made for This may not feature in the results, or if it does in future then it may not be very high. There may be regions where it's not popular at all.

  • Sometimes i feel these stats are specifically designed to troll the community.

    MfT not being in the top 10 but also not been released untill halfway through the data collection is such a argueing bait.

    That's a back and forth we're going to see in the forums for the next couple of months

    My 2 cents it does kiiinda show MfT isn't as popular as people say it is but not enough to say for sure.

    The fact that it is undeniably a strong perk with perks having a higher pickrate when they are released it is kinda hard to imagine more people picked spine chill in april to august then people picked MfT from july to august.

    Then again Spine Chill could be super popular in some regions i'm not aware of so who knows

  • @Alice_pbg said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3504442#Comment_3504442

    so you do not have every perk.

    I wanna see what people pick when they can choose anything

    Yeah. Pretty sure Jolt is only #1 because it's a free perk.

    @JonOzzie16 said:

    Lol, and every single lobby has multiple people running made for this, right? It's not even in the top ten.

    I mean, I'm seeing it 1-2 times a game, on average, the way I used to see old Dead Hard. It's not nearly as annoying, though.

  • The fact self-care is still used this much really disturbs me.

  • @caramelpudding said:

    The fact self-care is still used this much really disturbs me.

    It's still useful if you run it with Botany and Desperate. Overcome is a good combo, too, since some killers won't bother chasing you after hitting you if they know you have it; you can take protection hits and then zip off to the other corner of the map to heal and hop on a gen.

  • @Mandy said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3504382#Comment_3504382

    what sort of stats related to that would you want to see?

    we want to see stats of low mmr and high mmr players before and after those HUD changes.

    especially for soloQ, we want to know how much those HUD changes helped soloq.

  • @caramelpudding said:

    The fact self-care is still used this much really disturbs me.

    For real, even as a killer main it disturbs and irritates me, like some cyclopen architecture or lovecraftian horror that the mind can't encompass.

    Last game I played around with BBQ, ad I hadn't it equipped in a while and after hooking some survivor on DeadcDogs right in front of the saloon, I saw a Claudette healing in the backyards. I was puzzled, as I remembered her using a toolbox, so I moved all the way over there, and lo and behold, I found here there by her moaning, still healing. Uff.

    Well, she went down asap and on the hook ,>

  • @Akumakaji said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3505079#Comment_3505079

    For real, even as a killer main it disturbs and irritates me, like some cyclopen architecture or lovecraftian horror that the mind can't encompass.

    Last game I played around with BBQ, ad I hadn't it equipped in a while and after hooking some survivor on DeadcDogs right in front of the saloon, I saw a Claudette healing in the backyards. I was puzzled, as I remembered her using a toolbox, so I moved all the way over there, and lo and behold, I found here there by her moaning, still healing. Uff.

    Well, she went down asap and on the hook ,>

    Didn't you know? The Z wall on the edge of the map is the safest structure to self care at, lol.

  • @LordGlint said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3505240#Comment_3505240

    Didn't you know? The Z wall on the edge of the map is the safest structure to self care at, lol.

    Had I known this, that Claudette would be still alive for sure :P

  • BHVR trying so hard to change nerf buffing , and all player doesnt respect them to use variative perks

    This statistic perk most used event have no different with their current patch before massive changes.

    get shocked but not surprised

  • @playhard said:

    BHVR trying so hard to change nerf buffing , and all player doesnt respect them to use variative perks

    This statistic perk most used event have no different with their current patch before massive changes.

    get shocked but not surprised

    In all fairness, this data includes usage from April. I wouldn't be surprised if spinechill for example falls off next time they release stats. Also, no matter how many perks are more useful, General perks or perks from free characters are going to be owned by more people than perks that you have to unlock.

  • TCM will be a nice change of pace for a bit but it won't kill DBD, there's just only so much you can do with the license and only so long before it gets stale unless the devs really crank out some crazy maps or killers. Don't get me wrong I'm def gonna be playing it lol but DBD is for whatever reason special in it's own right with really no contenders. As for Blight his add ons just need a rework base blight is fine. As far this year I feel they've done a pretty ok job giving their track record.

  • @Mandy , can we request specific stat reports?

    For instance, I would love to see current average BP rewards per match for killers versus survivors, both with and without factoring in dailies and Tome challenges.

  • These stats are utterly useless. If you go to nightlight and filter from the singularity patch Made For This is in the top 4 used perks.

  • @Mandy said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3504382#Comment_3504382

    what sort of stats related to that would you want to see?

    @Mandy Since you're asking, I'd like to see escape rates by MMR. Just a simple x-y graph, where the x axis is MMR and the y axis is average escape rates.

  • "Oh no, they took barbecue's bloodpoints, no one is gonna use that anymore, people only run it for the points"

    Top 5 Barbecue & Chilli


    😆

  • I see Lethal and Corrupt in WAY too many matches for me to believe they're that far down the list.

  • @Crowman said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3504004#Comment_3504004

    End Transmission came out June 13th

    The stats are from April 27th to August 5th.

    Made For This likely isn't showing up, because it wasn't around for half the time the data was collected.

    Surely it's not as large a part of the reason, but the perk is also locked behind a pay wall (real money or shards) so not as many people will have it, I feel.

  • @justalilbit123 said:

    These stats are utterly useless. If you go to nightlight and filter from the singularity patch Made For This is in the top 4 used perks.

    Or it shows that nightlight isn't as accurate.

    These stats include every single person who plays dbd. Nightlight only the ones who bother to register to nightlight.

    It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see which one is more accurate. You just call them useless cause they don't fit your narrative

  • @Sonzaishinai said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3505792#Comment_3505792

    Or it shows that nightlight isn't as accurate.

    These stats include every single person who plays dbd. Nightlight only the ones who bother to register to nightlight.

    It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see which one is more accurate. You just call them useless cause they don't fit your narrative

    On top of that Nightlight has 0 stats from console players, who make up the lion’s share of DBD players.

  • i would love to see the killer roster current pick rate

  • I'd love to see solo queue escape rate... But that won't happen I guess ^^

  • 1) I’m curious of stats regarding how the survivor bots have affected DC rates. My theory is that the percentage of games with at least 1 DC has increased because survivors now feel less guilty about DCing, but I think the overall DC rate might be lowered because survivors might be less likely to DC when a teammate turns into a bot.

    2) I'm also curious to what percentage of hits are stolen from the Forced Short M1 Attack mechanic. When a killer tries to lunge, the game validates the attack twice. The first validation checks if the killer is "too close" to a survivor, and if the killer is "too close" the game forbids the killer from lunging, and forces the killer to make a short M1 attack instead. The second validation checks if the killer actually hits the survivor, and if the survivor is too far away to be hit, then this game mechanic has stolen a hit from the killer, because the killer could have gotten the hit if the game had allowed them to lunge.

    The reason why I'm curious about the Forced Short M1 Attack mechanic, because I think it steals a lot of hits from killers, but people don't talk about it, because they aren't even aware this mechanic is in the game. And I think 360s trigger this mechanic often enough that it actually affects game balance. I also notice this mechanic happening more often when the game latency is high, and I'm wondering if the first validation is happening on the killer side (instead of server side), and the second validation is happening on the server side, which would cause game latency to largely affect how often this game mechanic steals hits from killers.

  • @Sonzaishinai said:

    Sometimes i feel these stats are specifically designed to troll the community.

    MfT not being in the top 10 but also not been released untill halfway through the data collection is such a argueing bait.

    That's a back and forth we're going to see in the forums for the next couple of months

    My 2 cents it does kiiinda show MfT isn't as popular as people say it is but not enough to say for sure.

    The fact that it is undeniably a strong perk with perks having a higher pickrate when they are released it is kinda hard to imagine more people picked spine chill in april to august then people picked MfT from july to august.

    Then again Spine Chill could be super popular in some regions i'm not aware of so who knows

    I don't disagree that it causes issues, but i think there is a bigger thing people are ignoring. Context is always important when you look at data like this. Part of it is the date range, and MFT not existing for half of it. The other part is that this is for ALL players and not broken down by MMR. So there's a few things to note:

    1st, MFT didn't exist for half of the time that the data recorded there was collected.

    2nd, MFT is tied to a new survivor.

    3rd, this data covers ALL players, not just top MMR, as evidence by how high self-care is (come on now)

    4th, actually look at all of the survivor perks in the top 10 and how you get them.

    • Windows of Opportunity - The biggest outlier, but probably the most "noob friendly" perk in the game
    • Adrenaline - A free perk that every survivor has access to
    • Resilience - A free perk that every survivor has access to
    • Lithe - A perk on Feng min, by far the most played survivor in the game (should be obvious based how many skins she gets)
    • Self-Care - A perk on a survivor that every player has access to
    • Sprint Burst - A perk on a survivor that every player has access to
    • Prove Thyself - A perk on a survivor that every player has access to
    • Dead Hard - A perk on a survivor that you are given access to after completing the tutorial
    • Bond - A perk on a survivor that every player has access to
    • Spine Chill - A free perk that every survivor has access to

    Additionally, windows and Lithe both appeared in the shrine shortly before this date range happened, and once again during the date range the data was collected.

    Almost all of these perks are accessible to players who haven't bought anything other than the base game. So if anything, the only interesting thing here is how much of an outlier windows of opportunity is.

    In fact, the most useful statistic would be pick rates, broken down by MMR, and adjusted for OWNING those perks. Because i'd guess a ton of these "5 hour megs" don't have MFT to begin with.

  • @Reinami said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3505049#Comment_3505049

    I don't disagree that it causes issues, but i think there is a bigger thing people are ignoring. Context is always important when you look at data like this. Part of it is the date range, and MFT not existing for half of it. The other part is that this is for ALL players and not broken down by MMR. So there's a few things to note:

    1st, MFT didn't exist for half of the time that the data recorded there was collected.

    2nd, MFT is tied to a new survivor.

    3rd, this data covers ALL players, not just top MMR, as evidence by how high self-care is (come on now)

    4th, actually look at all of the survivor perks in the top 10 and how you get them.

    • Windows of Opportunity - The biggest outlier, but probably the most "noob friendly" perk in the game
    • Adrenaline - A free perk that every survivor has access to
    • Resilience - A free perk that every survivor has access to
    • Lithe - A perk on Feng min, by far the most played survivor in the game (should be obvious based how many skins she gets)
    • Self-Care - A perk on a survivor that every player has access to
    • Sprint Burst - A perk on a survivor that every player has access to
    • Prove Thyself - A perk on a survivor that every player has access to
    • Dead Hard - A perk on a survivor that you are given access to after completing the tutorial
    • Bond - A perk on a survivor that every player has access to
    • Spine Chill - A free perk that every survivor has access to

    Additionally, windows and Lithe both appeared in the shrine shortly before this date range happened, and once again during the date range the data was collected.

    Almost all of these perks are accessible to players who haven't bought anything other than the base game. So if anything, the only interesting thing here is how much of an outlier windows of opportunity is.

    In fact, the most useful statistic would be pick rates, broken down by MMR, and adjusted for OWNING those perks. Because i'd guess a ton of these "5 hour megs" don't have MFT to begin with.

    Region is also why certain perks are higher than others. Previously when Self Care was shown to still be a top pick the devs said its because on Asia servers it is still wicked popular due to their playstyle.

  • @Reinami said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3505049#Comment_3505049

    I don't disagree that it causes issues, but i think there is a bigger thing people are ignoring. Context is always important when you look at data like this. Part of it is the date range, and MFT not existing for half of it. The other part is that this is for ALL players and not broken down by MMR. So there's a few things to note:

    1st, MFT didn't exist for half of the time that the data recorded there was collected.

    2nd, MFT is tied to a new survivor.

    3rd, this data covers ALL players, not just top MMR, as evidence by how high self-care is (come on now)

    4th, actually look at all of the survivor perks in the top 10 and how you get them.

    • Windows of Opportunity - The biggest outlier, but probably the most "noob friendly" perk in the game
    • Adrenaline - A free perk that every survivor has access to
    • Resilience - A free perk that every survivor has access to
    • Lithe - A perk on Feng min, by far the most played survivor in the game (should be obvious based how many skins she gets)
    • Self-Care - A perk on a survivor that every player has access to
    • Sprint Burst - A perk on a survivor that every player has access to
    • Prove Thyself - A perk on a survivor that every player has access to
    • Dead Hard - A perk on a survivor that you are given access to after completing the tutorial
    • Bond - A perk on a survivor that every player has access to
    • Spine Chill - A free perk that every survivor has access to

    Additionally, windows and Lithe both appeared in the shrine shortly before this date range happened, and once again during the date range the data was collected.

    Almost all of these perks are accessible to players who haven't bought anything other than the base game. So if anything, the only interesting thing here is how much of an outlier windows of opportunity is.

    In fact, the most useful statistic would be pick rates, broken down by MMR, and adjusted for OWNING those perks. Because i'd guess a ton of these "5 hour megs" don't have MFT to begin with.

    Yeah, how available perks are also plays a huge factor.

    Unless they become more specific these stats don't say much. Fun to know bit not something to draw conclussions from

  • How about you share solo survivor escape rates when all 4 survivors are solo? That would be a good laugh.

  • It's not too far off of what nightlight.gg is showing for their community driven stats over the last 14 days. Any stats are welcome even if we disagree on if stats from April should hold the same weight as stats from matches yesterday. I think it would be amazing if BHVR would put up an actual site where players could get official statistics from instead of having to rely on 3rd party sites.

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  • @Mandy said:

    We know that you love data as much as we do, and it's always something that raises a lot of discussion. We're sharing with you of some of the top used perks on both sides.

    This is across all MMR ranges, and across all regions - remember some regions can play in a different way and therefore there might be perks that you personally don't see in your games, but we can assure you they are used.

    With saying that - here we go:

    https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/DVFZ01XB0AGN/killer.png

    In order, they are: Jolt, Sloppy Butcher, Scourge Hook: Pain Resonance, Pop Goes the Weasel, Barbecue and Chilli, Lethal Pursuer, Corrupt Intervention, Nowhere to Hide, Save the Best for Last, and Hex: No One Escapes Death.

    https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/OEA9JED3MVDL/survivor.png

    In order, they are: Windows of Opportunity, Adrenaline, Resilience, Lithe, Self Care, Sprint Burst, Prove Thyself, Dead Hard, Bond, and Spine Chill.

    This is something we'd like to do on a regular basis going forwards, so you can definitely expect to see more of these on a regular basis.

    We know this is going to start a lot of discussion and as ever your feedback around these perks are invaluable!

    The Dead by Daylight Team.

    Awesome more killer nerfs incoming because something is worth using... Can't wait.

  • By any chance could we get a peak at the current Killer pickrate data? 👀

  • @Star99er said:

    By any chance could we get a peak at the current Killer pickrate data? 👀

    I'd like to see those picks by platform as well.

    I'll get us started though: TWINS 0.31%

  • out of curiosity can we see stats of the top 10 lowest used perks in the game for both sides?

  • Don't think this is an excuse to not nerf Made For This, I don't care if it's the least picked perk in the game.

    Nerf it.

  • Can we see survivor pick rates? Minus the free ones so we know which are most popular picks

    Also is there really no plan to let our games collect and show us our stats like Nightlight does? At least something for console players please

  • I've been keeping count, and on average, three out of four survivors run the new perk that gives you +3% movement speed. Idk why that's not even listed here.

    75% is really high.

  • Can we get kill rate and pick rate of singularity on decently high MMR?

  • @[Deleted User] said:

    Sure, I’d like some stats.

    • How often the killer hooks a survivor in less than one minute after an unhook of that same survivor.
    • How often the killer slugs for the 4k.
    • How often the killer teams with the second last survivor to find the last survivor when there are two or more gens remaining.

    These are the kind of stats I’d be interested in seeing.

    Hard agree on all thee above. Yet, I would be surprised to see anything released that could potentially reinforce the claims of hook camping, tunneling etc.

    To add to what you had mentioned, I’d be curious to see the stats on how often survivors are killing themselves on the hook. It seems like the majority of the games I’ve played in recently this happens once if not more. I usually see it right away if someone is caught and hooked within the first minute of the game. I’ve noticed it happens more with certain killers as well.

    I’d also be interested in what percentage of player reports are actually handled, and result in some sort of disciplinary action.

  • @Star99er said:

    By any chance could we get a peak at the current Killer pickrate data? 👀

    I would be willing to bet Wesker, Blight, and Nurse are somewhere in the top five 😎

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