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Just have 5 survivor vs 1 killer. Or let the gates be powered as soon as 1 Gen is done.
U mine as well give weapons to the survivors.
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To be fair, it's the survivors who complained, and the devs listened.
Killers are like a bastard child.
They get paid for having the child, but don't really want to take care of them.
From butchering the doctor, thanatophobia, lullaby, Billy, POP, etc. And now Mori is useless.
Facing red rank swf w comms, u have to take a Mori as 'insurance'. Just so u get bullied less. If that even works. Ppl think if u bring Mori, u always win. It's a fallacy. But who cares?
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Wut?
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@Alex_Splicer said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1813262#Comment_1813262
LOL
No I get where you're coming from - I truly do. That's why I never play survivor.
But I think an animation isn't really a nerf like what they did to Mori's.
Though I already waited until last hook to Mori anyway.
Half of my hatch escapes are while being chased. If the killer has 1 more second, I would die.
If I had to go thru a animation, I will die next to hatch which happened many times before.
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@Komodo16 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1813294#Comment_1813294
Xbox, same name although I have a Wi-Fi limit so I gotta wait till my brother takes the system to a friend house before I can update or my dad will go ballistic sadly
Add me gamertag:kreate2
I'm playing right now.
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@CountVampyr said:
Distortion has become one of my favorite perks, but Undying rips through it like nothing. You wind up using two tokens just to cleanse one totem. Is this a bug or intended? It doesn’t seem quite right to me because Undying is only supposed to work for up to 6 seconds but my Distortion lasts 10. A totem shouldn’t be setting off my distortion a second time. It has already acknowledged my presence, it just isn’t relaying the info to the killer.
Distortion sucks w nurse calling as well. Will go thru 2-3 tokens just thru nurses calling.
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@AggressiveFTW said:
I'm not even gonna comment on everything here, as soon as I saw you say 20 seconds after opening the Hatch it should close, I was like nooo. It should close immediately after opening it.
That kind of hatch change is too much. Should leave it at 20 seconds and see how that goes. Changes should be minimal, not drastic.
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Keys, noed, huntress should be left alone.
Legion should require a add on to do that.
Everything else seems neat, especially the mori idea.
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@gatsby said:
Just because Keys are too strong doesn't mean Moris didn't need a nerf lol. They were both stupid
They were both fine.
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Can we turn in all of our mori's for bloodpoints?
Like u know how they have gun turn in days where u get money for turning in ur weapons?
Can we turn in our mori's so we can get bloodpoints?
Or get a refund?
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@Komodo16 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1813262#Comment_1813262
Are you not good at the game? Not out of anger but I have been playing solo my whole time just about with some swf here and there and customs and if you need help I could help
Im not sure if I'm good at the game. I mean I can breathe air and become red rank. Not necessarily becuz I'm good but becuz the ranking system is so broken.
I just do gens. I do gens even if there's 2 ppl left and the other is hiding. I rather work on gens than hide for 15 mins.
Dbd is the only game I play. I play nothing else. I started playing dbd when the Corona pandemic started they put me in home quarantine. Since than I been playing dbd non stop.
If u want to help, what platform do u play on?
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@Alex_Splicer said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1813107#Comment_1813107
It's not that they need fixing as much as at least given an animation that takes up time; if you're taking away the only way killers can make awful five minute or less games like survivors with keys do then it's of course going to cause controversy.
But hell, even without keys survivors can make those short and awful games.
I may be bias here, but I really like keys. I am a solo player. I have no friends. I get killed by the killer and bullied by swf teams. I really need the keys. Plz don't nerf.
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@Seanzu said:
It just doesn't bother me on either side, the survivor side doesn't stress me and neither does the killer side, it's a video game to me, always has been, always will be, if it "stressed" me I just wouldn't play it.
That's why I don't play killer. The hate is real.
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The whining is mostly due to survivors desire of a 'fair' game and if the game is not 'fun' cuz of camping and slugging, they get mad.
And the devs nerfs killers where no one asked for such as the PGTW nerf, thanataphobia nerf, Billy nerf, lullaby nerf, and so on. The mori nerf was way too much. But becuz survivor side isn't really that nerfed, if any, it makes the killers mad.
The other problem is, if the killer follows the rulebook, survivors tend become toxic towards the killer.
The only way to stop whining is if everyone just play the game for what it is instead playing one role, and a few times on the other role, and come to the conclusion that the player knows enough to form a opinion of what they think is 'fair'.
Dbd is not a 'fun' game. It is a frustrating, stressful, and addictive game.
It is also my opinion that killers are suppose to be OP. But judging by ppl who responds to my post, it seems like ppl truly want a 'fair' game instead of keeping the killer OP.
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@Theninjajesus said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1812172#Comment_1812172
I don't want them to bring it back to one. I want them to not do the laziest option to "fix" it. Now it's longer to kill than to just bring to a hook. Keys still needed a fix but since that would require effort because they put thought into appeasing survivors, they logjammed this through instead.
Here's a fix that retains Mori usefulness. Make a Mori give you a kill for every two hooks you get. If it needs a restriction above and beyond that, make it so that you can only use your banked kills against a survivor who's already been hooked once.
That solution took literally a minute to think up and it's still better than what they did.
Look, I get why the Devs do this stuff this way. There needs to be four times as many Survivors as Killers so of course they're going to favor the Survivors. But if they keep this up, there's not going to be people who want to play Killers, and then there's no game at all.
The keys don't need no fixing. Just you and ppl who are upset cuz of mori nerf.
But I really like your idea of the mori, as oppose to what the devs came up with.
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@Venzhas said:
Just made 4 survivors games in a row , 4 sad tunnelers and campers. Red ranks, really ? Not the usual complaining but come on wheres the fun ? Dont always accuse survivors since there were no genrush, no toxicity and im solo
I can understand why lot of new players dont want to continue this game. My roomate whos i just make discovers it loves the ambiance but hates killers behaviors on it, and I cant blame him
Dead by daylight is not a fun game. It is a frustrating, stressful, and addictive game.
Survivors keep using 'fun' as an excuse to nerf killers.
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@hillbillyclaudmain69 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1812271#Comment_1812271
U did a double negative.
That is an epic fail ....
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@KinkyPegLeg said:
@noctis129 i know potato red ranks exist but I’m constantly going up against people with dbd related names with 4 mans rank 1s sometimes rank 2. Im actually done with the game. The match making is bs there is about a 1,000 bugs, no hit validation dedicated servers are dog sh cross play servers are even worse and consistently getting dog sh frames. One of my favorite games is now one of my most hated.
"One of my favorite games is now one of my most hated."
This is true for most ppl. I just keep playing until they butcher the game so much so that I finally move onto other games. T hasn't got there yet. But it's close.
I really liked how the game was back when the deathslinger was released. I really feel like that was the best state the game was in.
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Dbd is a emotional game. It is NOT a fun game. It is frustrating, stressful, and addictive.
Ppl play w emotions. But comes to the forums to justify it w logic.
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We don't need no MMR. We just need a better ranking system. Also what's the point of rank reset?
Rank should be based on 50% looping skills. 25% great skill checks and such. And other 25% for bullying the killer skills.
If u can't do any of these 3, should be low to medium rank.
A fresh killer or survivor should not be reaching high ranks just becuz they play a lot in a short amount of time.
I can just breathe and reach red ranks.
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Killers need to be banned. Making death threats and such ... can't they just hook everyone once and just let everyone go? What gives?
Survivors are innocent.
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Ppl are scared the devs will bring mori's back if enough ppl complain.
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@SavouryRain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1812056#Comment_1812056
Are you really that thick, or are you trolling?
Not sure what ur problem is. Mori ruins it for everybody? Or mori ruins it for survivors?
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@SavouryRain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1810876#Comment_1810876
Because mori ruins the game for other people?
Yes. If u don't want to use it, than don't use it. What's ur problem?
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@CaulDrohn said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1811523#Comment_1811523
I already wrote that in another response, let me quote myself:
"Taking the survivor side, are you for real? Freddy Buff, Doctor Buff, InstaHeal nerf, Toolbox changes, map reworks (most recent Ormond, oh all the whining), Hex:Undying. I would even say Ruin change was for the better. How on earth can you claim the devs are survivor sided? The last two years shifted the game from heavily survivor sided to more or less even now (with SWF being favor for survivors, and soloQ in favor for the killer). Sure killer got some nerfs as well, and survivors some buffs, but claiming victimhood only for poor killers is so far off the bat that it's not even funny anymore."
And thats only the major things. Let me add some more:
Cannibal Buff (yes i know billy was butchered instead), together with a heavy Tinkerer buff. Plague having a fountain by default. Clown slowdown on through removed. Oni, GF, and Blight all were buffed from their PTB versions and even received some minor buffs / tweaks in following patches. Buffs to various non-meta/niche/meme perks like Franklins,Mindbreaker, Cruel limits. Going more back in the past we also have Trapper, Wraith and Hag adjustements, which made them all stronger (although the first two are still pretty weak).
So, I have done my job and listed killer buffs of the recent years / last months. Now you can come and list me your nerfs. I'm waiting.
But the list I gave u was not from 2017, it's since 2017 til 2019. They also butchered trapper, the doctor, and lullaby on top of the ones I mentioned earlier. Sure they might of buffed bubba, and made some changes to other killers that I would categorize as neutral changes. But saying that it's the same level of buff compare to nerfing them is far fetched.
I am a survivor main. I don't care for it that much to go do back research and give u recent list. I know there's more becuz everyone here was complaining about the amount of killer nerfs. I mean my life is easier due to all the killer butchering but I am not bias. This game is just too easy for survivors. Killers need to be OP.
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@CaulDrohn said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1811049#Comment_1811049
For real? You are posting a nerf list of 2017? And you want me to take you seriously?
You yourself claimed numerous nerfs in the last three month, but then come up with this? Yes, billy was more or less slaughtered, and I'm not fine with this as well. But cannibal got heavily buffed in the same freakin patch! Nerf to PGTW was not requested, but has no real impact. Morri nerf is just recent. You cheryy pick the few nerfs, and totally neglect the changes that make it easier for killers, so you can claim that killers only get nerfs. If you do not see a problem with that, I can't help you.
What buffs did killers get? U asked for a list... And I don't want to research all that so, I guess that's on me.
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@CaulDrohn said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1810880#Comment_1810880
"The other half is not coming" How do you know that, are you part of the dev team? You are just assuming. But you know what.? I'm willing to take a bet with you! I'm betting that keys get a change in Q1 or Q2 of 2021. So are you betting against that? What would be our wager?
Point me to such a list, then. But please don't confuse bugs with nerfs, that would be emberassing for you.
Also what a way to totally IGNORE the constant killer buffs / survivor nerfs we got the last 2 years, well done sir, well done.
Given that someone thought it was a good idea to make a list of all the survivor nerfs that have occured since release to try and "prove a point", despite critiquing this methodology I have compiled a list of all killer nerfs in this game since release to counter it, as we were challenged to do (which would again somehow "prove" that survivors have been receiving the short end of the stick and therefore survivors cannot be overpowered) Disclaimer: Since the original list includes the fixing of...hereis a list I found on simple Google search.
But for me, it started w nerfing killers like Billy when nobody asked for it. To nerfing PGTW, which, nobody asked for. And nerfing mori. And there was a few others but I'm too lazy to track down all the comments and threads.
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@SweetTerror said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1810957#Comment_1810957
"Dbd is not a fun game. It is a frustrating and addictive game."
You're certainly not wrong about that! As I said you're not wrong, but I've learned that adopting a carefree attitude can only take you so far. It's hard to not care when the matchmaking is so unbalanced that you keep getting stomped over and over. I've turned off messages so I don't have to worry about toxicity other than what's displayed in the game, but the unbalanced nature of DBD is it's greatest downfall.
Yea.. But what can we do? I think the answer is pretty simple.
Red ranks only matched w red ranks. Purple w purple, green w green, and so on.
Thats how I would have liked it.
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I understand nerfing the pink mori. But nerfing the green mori is way too much.
Mori is pretty much dead.
Green mori, u can use it to mori that 1 annoying, toxic survivor, and boot them out, but not anymore. The new mori system is a joke.
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@Facture said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1810981#Comment_1810981
I may have misread. Your message seemed to imply you had not done the tutorial, was just letting you know you could get some extra bloodpoints if you did.
I did try the tutorial later. And ur probably right on this. Becuz the tutorial was a joke.
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Ppl are just ppl. But roles of killer and survivor is different.
Survivor's role brings out the worst in ppl. More so than killer. Probably becuz of the pack mentality. The desire of entitlement. The entitlement of escaping. The view that the killer is the big bad boogeyman man so it justifies survivors to harass them without feeling bad for the person.
Survivors like u who gave a fair chance and play killer consistently, are the only ones who understands this.
I am a survivor main. And survivors are the toxic players. Not the killers. Killers are the victims.
But entitled survivors won't see it this way. They don't even know they are entitled.
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@Facture said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1810675#Comment_1810675
Completing both tutorials gives you free bloodpoints, just fyi.
What does that have to do with anything? By the time I found out tutorial gave free points, I was already red rank.
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@Wesker09 said:
Like I went up against a PH who was hard core tunneling at 5 gens despite having ruin+undying (still love his free tunneling and zoning btw) and then a bubba who camped despite having stuff like BBQ and TT to locate survivors, and others playing really scummy, weirdly.
Like i'm just wondering why play like this? I don't play scummy as all and do fine but then I go up against stuff like this, hear killers say "survivor sided game" and "so many bt, ds, ub etc" then play like this when none of that is in play and even when running strong builds like ruin+undying
Are killers okay or?
Why Don't u play killer for a whole month?
Only than, u will understand. Otherwise ur playing 1 side, and assuming u have a good understanding of the game.
Playing killer a few times doesn't count.
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@Bumbus said:
There's nothing scummy in any tactic in a videogame if it works, people just like to say that because they didn't have fun in game, which is totally fine. This is PVP game, killer isn't here to entertain survivors and survivors aren't here to entertain killer.
This is exactly it. But entitled survivors will disagree.
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Its bugged on one s. U start the game and 2 seconds in, and the game freezes, than crashes. Go checkout the bug section on the forums.
It happens about 5% of the time. Enough to get dc penalty quite frequently. Temporary ban.
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@SweetTerror said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1810775#Comment_1810775
Here's the thing though, telling someone to simply "grow a thicker skin" doesn't solve anything. That being said, you're not wrong either. The entry bar for newer players is ridiculously high as the game doesn't teach you how to play. Because of that most of us have turned to streamers for not only a source of information, but for entertainment.
Now granted the only way to get better at any game is to actually play it, but most multiplayer games have building blocks in place to help teach you how to play, or at the very least a multiplayer mode that doesn't crank the difficulty to 11 when you hop in.
DBD has been out for over 4 years now, and BHVR desperately needs to implement something if they ever hope to to lure newer players, because in all honesty if my friends weren't playing this game I would have dropped it like a bad habit months ago.
'Here's the thing though, telling someone to simply "grow a thicker skin" doesn't solve anything.'
It actually solves most problems. It let's ppl play the game for what it is without getting worked up.
Playing killer requires even a thicker skin due to all the hate messages u will be receiving.
It is my opinion that there should be a unranked match mode where they nerf the killer so bad, that survivors can learn and 'have fun. Aka 'easy mode.
Having a thicker skin helps the community and this forum, along with any other pvp games ppl might be playing.
Dbd is not a fun game. It is a frustrating and addictive game.
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@WishIcouldmain said:
Watched for a while at first. Then played on mobile. And plan to get it for Xbox now.
Which xbox?
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@CaulDrohn said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1810880#Comment_1810880
"The other half is not coming" How do you know that, are you part of the dev team? You are just assuming. But you know what.? I'm willing to take a bet with you! I'm betting that keys get a change in Q1 or Q2 of 2021. So are you betting against that? What would be our wager?
Point me to such a list, then. But please don't confuse bugs with nerfs, that would be emberassing for you.
Also what a way to totally IGNORE the constant killer buffs / survivor nerfs we got the last 2 years, well done sir, well done.
To be fair, changes to mori and keys should come at the same time. Not mori first, and maybe keys later. I dont want any changes to the keys. I key escape so many times it hurts solo players like me.
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@CaulDrohn said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1810876#Comment_1810876
I didn't, except for dailies.
I did not ruin anything, #########, if any the devs did. And when a thing is problematic / broken, it needs to be adressed. It does not got changed to ruin your fun, quite the opposite. It got changed bc it ruined the fun for others!
It ruined fun for others by ruining fun for others ....... lol
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@CaulDrohn said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1810818#Comment_1810818
Yes both need a rework. And the first half was done now, the other will come as well.
Please lay out to me this constant wave of nerfing killers, I'm really interested.
Mori was certainly NOT fine, why should it need a rework then? You even wrote it yourself in the first sentence!
Pls check again your definition of "meme", I fear you do not understand the term. "Memeing" means more like fooling around, best with crude perk builds and playstyles. A killer tunnel-moriing each and every survivor is the exact opposite of a "meme" game, #########.
The other half isn't coming. And unless u been living under a rock, or bias enough to ignore the changes, killers been nerfed for a while. There were numerous threads w all the list.
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@CaulDrohn said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1810840#Comment_1810840
If you are directing it to me (the op), let me ensure you that a play more killer than survivor, and STILL really like this mori change! Bc using a mori felt always like a cheap way of winning for me. Now, with this change, i can finally don on a mori without feeling to bad about it, since I know it won't make much of a difference.
Just don't use mori than. Why u gotta ruined it for other ppl.
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@lucid4444 said:
It really blows my mind that people play only 50% of this game... and then not understand that their view of balance in this game is skewed
This is exactly it. Ppl needs to play the role they hate to play, and understand the other side. Otherwise they are just entitled. Making emotional comments and tries to justify it w logic.
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@CaulDrohn said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1810763#Comment_1810763
It was universally agreed by both survivors and killers that moris are problematic. Don't make it into a fight between survivors and killers, thats not the point!
It was universally agreed that both mori and keys needs a rework. No killer side agreed to only nerfing killers.
And I'm a survivor, not a killer.
There is a constant wave of nerfing killers in the past 3 months. Mori was fine as it was. Its a meme offering.
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@SweetTerror said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1810751#Comment_1810751
Oh believe me I have and I do! But it still doesn't help the anxiety that comes with this game. The game needs better matchmaking and it needs a better way to practice, because spending an evening getting worked over can be better spent doing something else imo.
Better matchmaking and better ways to practice is not going to fix ur anxiety.
U just have play SO MUCH, so that u no longer get anxiety playing dbd.
I was like u when I started. I get worked up. Dying on first hook, tunnel, camp, toxic survivors screwing me over, stealing my item, doing all gens by myself just to die at the end while others leave me for dead, swf teams using me as a blockade so they can escape while sacrificing me as a shield.
U actually don't even have to play to get worked up. Just look at the entitled survivors on this forum who doesn't even know they are entitled. They get worked up pretty bad. Even the ppl who should remain impartial and bias'less become mad.
I know I have a lot of opinions but there's truth to my opinions, and ppl can't handle the truth.
U have to grow a thick skin which I been preaching about ever since I started to comment on the forums.
U can tunnel and camp me to death, I don't sweat. It is a bit frustrating when playing killer though. Top tier survivors are extremely OP, but nobody going to nerf them. I'm 99% survivor now. Ppl's hate messages don't bother me no more.
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I can't wait for the next complaints by entitled survivors!
Mori's are done, I wonder what's next? Let's just keep nerfing killers!
I already stopped playing killer. My killer is now rank 20. Every time I play killer, I get a 4k now without mori. I only play for dailies. Nothing more.
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U can practice new killers on a Smurf account.
I watch my own replay videos to see why I lost. Good loops, where the hatch was, etc.
Ppl keep telling me to watch like noob3 and stuff. I did but meh... Those are for noobs.
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@ILoveDemo said:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/P35Q422V7DFB/screenshot-20201209-143836.png
Mandy has to 100% right. Keys are so much weaker as Moris the only thing Keys (maybe) need is a 3 secound Animation. They have so much and also hard conditions. So pls don't make them useless. With the Mori change the game is so much less toxic now and I'm Happy with that.
Is 2% really accurate? Key escape is like 20% of my escapes.
I should run a trial run for better accuracy. I can't be going by feelings. But I feel like key escapes are like 1/5 escapes for me.
But yea, I'm against nerfing keys. But I was also against nerfing mori's but they rather nerf killers than survivors I guess.
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I have multiple accounts too. I also play on rank 15-20 and it's totally fine. Yea there are some potatoes but what do u expect?
I started dbd this year when the pandemic started and didn't even go thru the tutorial. Who does?
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@KettleWettle said:
Idk I'm a bit disappointed with the cosmetics we got 😞
Where have you been? We already talked about this multiple times when the rift started.
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@SasukeKun said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1809408#Comment_1809408
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1809336#Comment_1809336
I do not support the linear way of playing this game is going, Killers shouldn't have to play one way and hooks shouldn't be the only way to die. yes it's still there but does it grant more points than hooking? is it adjusted to actually say you won instead of entity displeased?
I'm not sure what we're arguing about ..