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I don’t agree with permanently breaking hooks just because there would be survivors abuse it and break every hook before they start a gen, or break them all and just stay away from the basement while the killer is taunted and blinded the whole matchPeasant said:The problem with the developers is that they don't understand the mindset of survivors. The naively believe that by buffing Saboteur that more survivors will try it and therefore have fewer people on generators. The problem with this line of thinking is that very few rational people will use saboteur unless it has a significant effect on the entire match. My opinion on saboteur is that they should increase the time to break a hook or trap significantly then let Saboteur permanently break hooks and traps again. Or maybe give saboteur the option to perform a Self Care-like action to remove a RBT. Saboteur has potential but the potential is wasted.
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Why is this here? I think a yahoo article writer may have gotten losttujue said:ISTANBUL [url=http://www.texansauthoritystore.com/Authentic-Keke-Coutee-Texans-Jersey/]Authentic Keke Coutee Jersey[/url] , Sept. 7 (Xinhua) -- As German Chancellor Angela Merkel announced she would propose to stop Turkey's accession talks at an upcoming EU summit, Turkish analysts are divided over whether the 28-nation bloc would end Turkey's membership negotiations, a prospect that would cost Ankara dearly economically.
Some feel that Merkel would not be able to convince all her EU partners to officially halt negotiations with Turkey.
"I don't think Merkel would be able to get all the 28 EU countries to accept her proposal," Can Baydarol, deputy chairman of the European Union and Global Research Association based in Ankara, told Xinhua.
Conceding that Germany is a heavy weight in the union, he added "there are countries and political groups in the EU which do not hold with Merkel's attitude."
Criticizing Ankara for moving away from the rule of law, Merkel said last Sunday that Turkey should not become a full member of the EU.
The German leader called for a joint stance in the EU, as the bloc needs a consensus to officially stop the accession talks.
Ankara applied to join the EU in 1987 and started in 2005 the negotiations for full membership, which have already been stalled over the past couple of years.
Turkey's relations with the EU have turned for the worse particularly after a coup attempt jolted Turkey in July last year, following which the Turkish government imposed a state of emergency.
Brussels has frequently criticized Ankara over what it called crackdown on dissidents, growing authoritarianism and violations of the rule of law.
"Merkel may have her way at the EU summit considering that over 40 percent of the EU budget is provided by Germany," Faruk Sen, president of the Turkish European Foundation for Education and Scientific Studies (TAVAK), told Xinhua.
France and Denmark have offered support to Merkel's proposal, arguing Turkey is moving away from democracy.
French government spokesperson Christophe Castaner said it is impossible to expect boosted integration with Turkey given the political situation in the country, while Danish Prime Minister Lars Lokke Rasmussen said it is meaningless to continue membership talks with Ankara as it is swiftly drifting away from European values.
Both countries also underlined that dialogue with Turkey should continue.
A statement by EU Foreign Policy Chief Federica Mogherini suggested, however, that the EU may not fully agree with Merkel on the issue.
A day after Merkel's remarks, the EU's top diplomat said the union is continuing to be in dialogue with Turkey, a candidate country.
Accession talks have their own specific criteria, she added.
"Even if Germany presses hard, there will be many in the EU that will oppose a formal break with Turkey," Faruk Logoglu, a former senior diplomat of Turkey, told Xinhua.
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan also claimed on Wednesday that some EU countries had started to raise their voices against Merkel's call, saying Germany cannot determine EU policy as it requires a consensus by member states.
Despite Mogherini's remarks, Sen, who previously headed the Essen-based Turkish Research Center when he lived in Germany for years, feels that Berlin could manage at least to have the accession talk freeze.
It is widely argued that Merkel's discourse may well be aimed at getting more votes in the elections to be held in Germany on Sept. 24.
Aversion to Turkey appears to have been on the rise among the German public as well as in some other EU countries as a result largely of the escalating war of words between leaderships.
The German chancellor's reference to the importance of ties with Ankara and the necessity to take a decision by consensus strongly suggests such an inference, Baydarol maintained.
"No European politician can resist the temptation of Turkey- bashing at the time of elections," stated Logoglu, "Turkish leaders with their equally vehement vilifications of Europeans provide ready fuel for this pointless tug-of-war."
The strain in Ankara-Berlin ties turned into a diplomatic crisis when Germany barred some Turkish cabinet ministers from addressing Turkish expats ahead of a referendum in Turkey in April on expanding the powers of the president.
Erdogan responded by accusing Berlin of adopting Nazism and fascism, which drew a harsh reaction from Germany.
Then in August, the Turkish leader called on Turks living in Germany to vote against Germany's leading parties, which he described as Turkey's enemies.
The remarks drew sharp criticism from German politicians, who saw them as an intervention in Germany's domestic politics, with Merkel calling them "absolutely unacceptable."
Back in July, the European Parliament voted in favor of a non-binding proposal calling on the EU countries to suspend membership talks with Turkey, should Ankara go ahead with constitutional changes to make way for a presidential system as endorsed in the April referendum.
The amendments have been much criticized at home and abroad for leading to a one-man rule while damaging the separation of powers.
European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker warned in August that suspending the accession talks would be wrong, taking into consideration the EU's refugee deal with Ankara.
Turkey updated a refugee deal with the EU in March last year to prevent the flow of illegal immigration toward Europe in return for visa-free travel for its citizens, revival of its long-stalled accession talks and financial aid for refugees in Turkey.
The number of illegal migrants being smuggled into Europe via Turkey has fallen sharply as a result.
On Wednesday, Merkel seemed to further stiffen her stance on Turkey's membership talks.
Referring to some German citizens being detained in Turkey, she said there could be no question of continuing membershi We, the Professional .
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The only reason I don’t like it is because I like to switch up between different perk builds and I have each character set to have their own play style when I get tired of using anotherHeroLives said:get to pick one perk to be built in for that season. Every rank reset you get to pick a new one or the same one ,whatever floats your boats. Thoughts? -
That’s because Dre has a disease that’s infecting our societypopoles said:I can't really understand what is he/she saying. -
This is all cry baby bullshit that nobody else gives a ######### about , go buy an e rated game if you’re gonna sit here and cry, why aren’t you spamming gtav forums for the pixelated hookers giving up that pixelated booty for cash since you’re sooo concernedDre said:The development that designed and passed the new DBD killer is misogyny.
They rationalize it for their own pleasure and try to acquiesce in it.
Are you conscientious?
I'm sure some of you opposed the ethical good.
What's the point of keeping the line in good stead and suddenly retreating?
to be disappointing
This incident will make the game more difficult to operate with malicious users. The positive assessment of collecting users will be cancelled.But you don't lose them and you can make money.
The killer's gameability and ideas were well made, but the costumes and stories were overkill.
Certainly we can find better ways.
If you thought the topic of the new killer was really good, if you knew the social atmosphere, you should have applied it to male characters before Spirit to convince users.
But you didn't.If he wanted to convey the message, "DBD prefers sexual objectification," the character had to take a pose that emphasized his hips to the fullest. Dead and kept cold, but should have emphasized hips and soft breasts. A muttering body should have reminded the naked body.
The bandage had to reveal between the legs and the hips.
It should have released a male character who was the victim of an unprecedented murder.Here are some people who refer to The Hillbilly, The Warith, The Hag, and David.
These characters are cleverly created with minimal ethics.
Was 'The Hillbilly' killed by his family? Were you ruled with a tearful cry without killing a man with his own will?
Is 'The Warith' near to nakedness by taking off the cape?
Do you have a loose bandage around your lower body?
Do you pose that exposes the important parts, reveals the hip bones and highlights the hips?
When David was socially, physically and powerfully pressured, he was forced to be stripped to what he didn't intend, making him look like a naked body?
'The Hag'? Is the skin or appearance around her body so similar that it reminds you of a real person?Don't you see the difference?
Okay!
If you can't tell the difference, if you don't mind, just apply it to Spirit as well!
There is a DBD community in my country that is difficult for you to find.
On community sites for regular users, there is already a voice that says that they are sloppy about how they dress.People tell me I'm jealous of Spirit. But it is prejudice and overuse.
I love Spirit's beauty and great gameability and I think it's great.
But the way Spirit is handled is too immoral. Spirit is sad. I feel sorry for countless women around me who come to mind watching Spirit.
Too many women in Asia are going through the same thing as Spirit, and they are being persecuted in the same way.Formal exposure and handling are influential.
It makes me even angrier to see people who say disgusting things and exploit them without thinking of problems.
I know that if I ignore this, it will be a cloud that increases the number of women affected by the damage like Spirit I love.
I am very angry with you for your contributions to such a trend.
People say.
'That doesn't happen to women! Such an event is very rare!'
They live in obscurity and misery.
It is because even if he talks, he doesn't understand, and everyone takes sides with the perpetrator.
You don't want to know.
Because even if you don't know these facts, your life will not be invaded.
This fact is all plain and miserable at the level of your argument.You made Spirit without thinking of him as a human being.
You did not humanize the victims in the same situation as Spirit.
People in situations similar to Spirit are not considered.
In Asia, domestic violence is being killed at the same level as the shooting.
He created a pretty poor, low-down delusion for the joys and satisfaction of those in power who had nothing to lose.
Just because Asians treat women like that doesn't mean you should treat them like that. This is the reality of Asian women's rights.
If you cared about your victims and thought about it, Spirit wouldn't have made them walk around crying nakedly, murdered by their father. I feel very insulted.
I'm sick and tired of being forced to deal with Asian women as submissive.Your society cares about respecting each other as equals.
However, they welcomed and accepted factors that women are exploiting in Asia.
No, racists! No!
We are under tremendous exploitation, damage and discrimination in the aforementioned atmosphere and are struggling for change.
It was able to start current DBD that was considered for this reason.
You are actually raising your hand against us.
Are you happy to be the perpetrator?
Too many people are reliving their disgusting desires for Spirit and regenerating and becoming dull. Please!
The impact of media content cannot be ignored.
From the moment you don't observe the moral line, you have not created it. It was an act of injury to the users and a reversal of human rights.Please distinguish between reality and influence.
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Actual killers shouldn’t be given that kind of recognition
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I think you mean Hex: the third seal for the last oneIceman said:
Once she come to consolefeffrey said:I'm very pleased with the new killer and her playstyle, it actually takes skill to play her. I can see why she killer mains already have complaints and is disliked already.
not that her current state is going to be the live version she can change anytime between now and then.
For one I like her ability to deceive survivors and how well she can track survivors but that can be kind of hard for majority of the killer base.
Right now her perks are very strong if used in the right hands it will makes cleansing totems very risky now and lets face it with the new NOED its going to be a lot harder to deal with the killer if you're the obession .
this killer is well balanced and brings new opportunity to the tables with her perks
A new BbQ chilli - a new NOED and the ability to instantly destroy pallets .
What would you mix her perks with ?
Spirit Fury and Enduring will go hand and hand if you decide to freely eat two pallets. the third one you walk into you want even feel it
Haunted grounds will protect your Hex ruin and expose the player who cleans a decoy totem .. but if one thing changes is that the decoy totems shouldn't change to a dull.
Rancor and NOED is going to be toxic but
funny
All in All this is a good killer and very balanced idky why most people hate her already probably killer mains
wanted something easier which is understandable they need the hand out
but from my view the Devs did a good job with her
I forgot to mention it is great that they put a stop to ability spamming this will force most killers to think about the best opportunity to use their ability and increase their skills when facing a survivor.
we are going in a good direction
This is a build I would like to try. I call it the power of the hexes lol
Haunted ground
thrill of the hunt
devour hope
and blind effect
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I would say it’s because it will get abused and the killer pelted with pebbles the whole matchAftertaste said:I don't know if that is bug but I think it is. In my opinion Diverse pebble should bounce from the walls or something. I know that when pebble is vanishing through walls it's eaasier to use but it's not real.
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Yea I saw that ,that’s a good one, I thought you meant a DS specific change but also good for Myers , that gives one a reason to leave the obsession alone unless they’re the last left also , if I were running rancor I wouldn’t even bother with the obsession at first simply because you’d be wasting your time with DS there when you could be downing everyone else and if you get to the point the gens are done it’s game over if you can get them, I like it .pauloandrade22 said:@lyric said:
pauloandrade22 said:I think that she is a cool killer with a power designed to help in the chase and my favorite for mind games and suprise attacks.
What do you guys think about Lady rin? I think shes above myres for now.
Also now DS has a counter (OF SORTS). Good job devs.
What changed with DS? I guess I didn’t see that one
With Rancor you can 1 hit down and mori the obession when the gates are powered . Its a counter of sorts and its great with freddy and his end game perks.
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I personally think the haunted grounds perk will bring a lot of balance to the game, ruin isn’t gonna go as fast especially if they get the wrong totem at first and cause more than one to be downed, it’s gonna make survivors respect those totems. I’m gonna try to main with the spirit when she comes out on PS4, I’m currently using the trapper and I feel like I’m at a rank where it’s hit and miss, I might do good or I might get tbagged at the exit because ruin was instantly gone and I couldn’t set traps in time to have an effective match, I’m forced to slug at that point which makes the power useless.Master said:@pauloandrade22 said:
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@pauloandrade22 said:
I think that she is a cool killer with a power designed to help in the chase and my favorite for mind games and suprise attacks.What do you guys think about Lady rin? I think shes above myres for now.
Also now DS has a counter (OF SORTS). Good job devs.
Design and looks are nice, but she lacks the power of a viable killer, so she will dissapear after a few weeks which is quite sad considering how much time is wasted creating new killers.
But then devs dont want every killer to be viable against competent survivors as they said during the lsat stream, so I guess she is trash as intended
I think she is quite viable actually . At least myres level. And the mindgames with her are strong AF too.
Myers can get rekt completely by competent survivors too.
I will wait one or two weeks and then decide if I wanna buy her, maybe I will play her in low ranks only to have fun, that should work -
What changed with DS? I guess I didn’t see that onepauloandrade22 said:I think that she is a cool killer with a power designed to help in the chase and my favorite for mind games and suprise attacks.
What do you guys think about Lady rin? I think shes above myres for now.
Also now DS has a counter (OF SORTS). Good job devs.
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It really depends on your play style I guess, for example: if you catch yourself healing others and doing hook rescues often then : borrowed time, botany knowledge, we’ll make it, and self care
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I wish I could vote this up 1000000000 times!Mc_Harty said:@Noexit0 said:
Yeah, she's dead. But can't you get it?
they are putting sexual objectification on Dead body. So wrong.
Why you guys are trying to prevent changing her outfit? The new killer is dead person? Wow. I think skeleton is more related, not a porn-girl who has dead skin and wearing few bandages for her body.
When you admit you're attracted to a corpse.

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OP won’t understand because people who think that way have a disease and to them their opinion trumps all and everyone should get a trophy for being such a good player and all outfits need to undergo public scrutiny so their wittle feeelings don’t get hurt and they don’t have to hide in safe spaces to avoid the game because ya know even though it’s an m rated game we need to try and make it an e rated game , it’s not like we’re slashing people , putting hooks through their chest, or murdering some of these poor pixelsTheBean said:I read your post. Your opinion is valid just like any others, that enjoy playing this game.
I'm not going to make much of a comment about it, but perhaps you should provide that to the feedback that developers will ask for about this DLC.
One comment though is perhaps you should not generalize people as THE people. Since the concept of THE people implies everyone, which your opinion doesn't reflect. In fact, you should not also generalize your comments to be "most (especially women)", since you are not speaking for all woman. These are YOUR opinions, and YOURS alone.
People may agree with you and voice that agreement, but please don't speak for MOST, or THE people (especially women).
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It’s a rated m game ... are you too stupid to see it? See my other post for a response and They aren’t even showing anything and anyone who sees it that way has some serious issues , they aren’t putting any sort of sexual image on her and David is worse , you are making excuses and shouldn’t play the game if you’re going to be here crying for a character change because you’re all up in your feelings, what about gta and the strip clubs or hookers? Are you on there crying about the pixelated females that give up fake booty for fake cash?Noexit0 said:
Yeah, she's dead. But can't you get it?lyric said:
Goodbye to you then , nobody wants to hear this made up sexual bullshit over a character that doesn’t even look human and is undead in the game, something is wrong with you to make these conclusions but defend David being shirtless get this hypocritical sjw garbage out of here it’s rated m for a reason people if you can’t handle it buy an e rated gameNoexit0 said:Hi, I'm just one of the players of them who have dissatisfaction about the new killer.I think most of the players (especially women)have feelings of disgust and unpleasantness the new killer's trailer and her outfit.First, the new killer's trailer.At the end of the trailer, there's a long screaming of a woman. Is that necessary to describe the new killer?
That doesn't need to show us that scene. That makes us think of the snuff film. I can understand that they just want to express her an injustice and. However, this trailer isn't showing her feelings. This shows us her father's feeling and unrelated lines for trailer. Just showing a woman's scene who was killed gives us a discomfort.
For instance, the Hag was killed by villagers. However, In the Hag's trailer, there is no tragic victim, there is the only killer without mercy. What about the Huntress? She lost her mother by a wild animal. However, there is no crying girl in the Huntress's trailer. There is only hunter to kill everyone with wild animal's sense. There's a huge gap of these trailers' deployment method.
In the new killer's trailer, there is no merciless killer or horrific killer. The trailer just shows us the victim's image.
If the trailer shows us the new killer's appearance after the murder, I think that would be more relative to the description of the new killer.Second, the new killer's outfit.The only thing I know in this Dead by Daylight is this game has no sexual objectification to women (killers & survivors).
The Huntress has an image of professional killer and wilderness. The hag has an image of the hunger for blood and endless cannibalism. Like these, there are no sexual feelings about the past female killers, except for the new killer.Why she just has few bandages that barely cover her chest and her hip. Devs don't have to put the shaking boobs on the new killer. You don't need to emphasize her hip. Just give her the merciless clothing.She doesn't have to make the SAD face in the waiting room. She was killed by her father. Now, she has only a constant fury, not a sadness. There is no time to pity herself.+) In the game, the explanations about the new killer are too weird to me. They are emphasizing the SPECIFIC WAYS that she get killed.
I think that doesn't need to explain all that..
+) About the David's naked skin, he has shaking chest or emphasizing his hip skin? He has the skin that few fabrics to cover his body (his nipple or his penis or what)? If he has, you can ignore my second opinion.
I think maybe some people don't understand us that why they are so angry about the new killer's outfit NOW. They didn't say anything when David's naked outfit came out.
Well, I think that David's that skin has relativeness his back story.
What about the new killer?
The only thing we know about her back story is the trailer and In-game's explanation.
Is her father made her naked and gives her few bandages to cover barely her nipples and vulva before the murder?
No. There isn't.
The new killer's outfit could be just causal clothes.
Just few bandages for covering her body? It doesn't make sense. It's okay to put a clothing on her.
I saw the new killer's another clothing that looks like Gimono. I think that would be much better.I really love Dead by Daylight and I'm enjoying DBD with my friends and other players. But, this new killer makes the players leave the game.I'm really disappointed about this event.Think about the past female killers! The nurse, Huntress, Hag... They have their own edges.
There are the greatest female killers that made by Devs.I honestly miss that image of these female killers.Sorry for bad explanation. I did my best.Thank you for reading my description and I hope I can see all genuine comments about the new killer.
they are putting sexual objectification on Dead body. So wrong.
Why you guys are trying to prevent changing her outfit? The new killer is dead person? Wow. I think skeleton is more related, not a porn-girl who has dead skin and wearing few bandages for her body.
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That’s the point you sick demented individual, nobody else is looking at that ######### or even paying attention because she’s dead and cut to pieces and looks like an alien more than a human but here you are trying to be a troll making bait threads , why don’t you go to F13 forums and complain about the “human” girls who are literally wearing nothing there , at least you will give the game some kind of life seeing as it’s dead anywayNoexit0 said:
You mean, you think people can consume the images of the new killer's outfit, because of this game is an 18+game?popoles said:It's an 18+ game.
I think you put the wrong focus on my post.
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Goodbye to you then , nobody wants to hear this made up sexual bullshit over a character that doesn’t even look human and is undead in the game, something is wrong with you to make these conclusions but defend David being shirtless get this hypocritical sjw garbage out of here it’s rated m for a reason people if you can’t handle it buy an e rated gameNoexit0 said:Hi, I'm just one of the players of them who have dissatisfaction about the new killer.I think most of the players (especially women)have feelings of disgust and unpleasantness the new killer's trailer and her outfit.First, the new killer's trailer.At the end of the trailer, there's a long screaming of a woman. Is that necessary to describe the new killer?
That doesn't need to show us that scene. That makes us think of the snuff film. I can understand that they just want to express her an injustice and. However, this trailer isn't showing her feelings. This shows us her father's feeling and unrelated lines for trailer. Just showing a woman's scene who was killed gives us a discomfort.
For instance, the Hag was killed by villagers. However, In the Hag's trailer, there is no tragic victim, there is the only killer without mercy. What about the Huntress? She lost her mother by a wild animal. However, there is no crying girl in the Huntress's trailer. There is only hunter to kill everyone with wild animal's sense. There's a huge gap of these trailers' deployment method.
In the new killer's trailer, there is no merciless killer or horrific killer. The trailer just shows us the victim's image.
If the trailer shows us the new killer's appearance after the murder, I think that would be more relative to the description of the new killer.Second, the new killer's outfit.The only thing I know in this Dead by Daylight is this game has no sexual objectification to women (killers & survivors).
The Huntress has an image of professional killer and wilderness. The hag has an image of the hunger for blood and endless cannibalism. Like these, there are no sexual feelings about the past female killers, except for the new killer.Why she just has few bandages that barely cover her chest and her hip. Devs don't have to put the shaking boobs on the new killer. You don't need to emphasize her hip. Just give her the merciless clothing.She doesn't have to make the SAD face in the waiting room. She was killed by her father. Now, she has only a constant fury, not a sadness. There is no time to pity herself.+) In the game, the explanations about the new killer are too weird to me. They are emphasizing the SPECIFIC WAYS that she get killed.
I think that doesn't need to explain all that..
+) About the David's naked skin, he has shaking chest or emphasizing his hip skin? He has the skin that few fabrics to cover his body (his nipple or his penis or what)? If he has, you can ignore my second opinion.
I think maybe some people don't understand us that why they are so angry about the new killer's outfit NOW. They didn't say anything when David's naked outfit came out.
Well, I think that David's that skin has relativeness his back story.
What about the new killer?
The only thing we know about her back story is the trailer and In-game's explanation.
Is her father made her naked and gives her few bandages to cover barely her nipples and vulva before the murder?
No. There isn't.
The new killer's outfit could be just causal clothes.
Just few bandages for covering her body? It doesn't make sense. It's okay to put a clothing on her.
I saw the new killer's another clothing that looks like Gimono. I think that would be much better.I really love Dead by Daylight and I'm enjoying DBD with my friends and other players. But, this new killer makes the players leave the game.I'm really disappointed about this event.Think about the past female killers! The nurse, Huntress, Hag... They have their own edges.
There are the greatest female killers that made by Devs.I honestly miss that image of these female killers.Sorry for bad explanation. I did my best.Thank you for reading my description and I hope I can see all genuine comments about the new killer. -
It’s a ######### slasher game about murdering people or surviving and F13 is way worse, take this sensitive bullshit and go play pac man or something where you feel better about the characters not being peopleBROWN said:@Vietfox said:
BROWN said:@Vietfox said:
For point 3:
Do you usually read books? The more details we have the more immersive is the story.
I dont think the video is unpleasant for the vast majority, it's you being too sensitive. Just compare the trailer with other movies.
"Many Asian women are actually subjected to domestic violence"... I dont actually get this point but, guess what, not only Asian women.
Games, movies and books have all sorts of real stories as a background, so i'm not sure what you mean.
For point 1 and 2 i'm just gonna quote what @chemical_reject said: Lol where were u when shirtless David came about?
Did you read my article? It is quite possible to make a real case motif. but Social issues that victims still exist in all media should not be taken lightly. If the Jewish character that was slaughtered by the Nazis in this game came out with the wound, would not it have been possible to avoid criticism? It is a wrong act to describe the perpetrators' actions as much as necessary, even if that is the purpose of criticism. Hag and HillBilly were all victims, but the damage was never described in detail. Do you think it's right to portray the murder process more than you need and to concentrate on the father who murdered character rather than character?
And, I said the intentions of exposure were different. You should read Point 2 again.
If you dont like it just dont play it. You are overreacting for pointless things.
I didnt notice any exposure till you mentioned it, and probably will forget about it because my mind is not that dirty.
PS: are you american? Just curious.I am Asian. I think English is poor, but I still have to say something. Women 's human rights and commercialization of femininity, domestic violence and murder committed by men are important social problems. Without criticism, there is no development. I think that these problems can be sensitive.
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Jesus what a bunch of babies making ######### up to be offended by, I’m sorry but if you find this new character sexual then there is something wrong with you, and trying to justify David’s outfit to hers is garbage it’s way more sexual than hers, she doesn’t even look human for crying out loud, can we just play the damn game and not have all this sensitive bullshit on the forum? It’s rated m for a reason people if you don’t like it don’t play it , you shouldn’t be fantasizing a pixelated character in a sexual way to begin
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Yep two identical hatches , and you could even make a ultra rare map add on that showed you the correct hatch to give maps a little more play as well, and the killer should be able to know which hatch is the death hatch , it can be used as a mind game by him camping the death hatch on purpose to get you to go for it and pretend you “beat him” to the hatch or he could be camping your only way out.NuriFox said:@lyric said:
What if there were two hatches? one was the death hatch and the other was the real one , I actually like the death hatch idea
So something like both hatches appear completely identical but when you try to hop into the wrong one the entity's claws rise up out of it and drag you down into it with a gruesome crunching squish sound and some blood spray? I'd be good with that, but I think you should get half the bloodpoints you would have gotten for getting the right hatch since it's RNG killing you and not the killer.
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What if there were two hatches? one was the death hatch and the other was the real one , I actually like the death hatch ideaTsulan said:@Master said:
@Tsulan said:
@Master said:
@Vietfox said:
Hatch is fine. If survivors had to go through those skill checks the standoffs would last longer because killer wouldn't leave it.
Yes, a survivor could repair gens instead, but that would reveal their location, making it an almost guaranteed kill.Hatch isnt fine, thats why devs attempted to change it.
I am just curious what they come up with next since the first idea got prevented by too much crying
Maybe chance the hatch in a way that it doesn´t guarantee 7000 BP but instead gives a 25% chance to get those points. The other 75% could result in a horrible death and even cost the survivor points.
Haha nice one, maybe I would give the hatch to the last DS guy then

It should be a gamble. Risk vs Reward. Devs love risk vs reward (at least for killer perks)
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But I believe MCote also stated before that “you’re not always meant to escape “ and sometimes when a killer is skilled enough and your teammates make bad decisions and it can affect you even if you feel you’re doing good, I personally believe the game is balanced I play both and the only real thing they need to do is make match a little bit longer somehow, hex ruin is found too quickly and not strong enough , Sometimes I’ll get 4k but only when ruin stays well hidden. I’m a trapper main when I play killer and I’m trying to get good with the nurse simply because she can end chases faster and give me more time to go for the others whether ruin is there or not , the trapper doesn’t have that luxury and has a power in itself that causes you to waste time from the start before you initiate chases for it to be effective, as a survivor you can just hop on a gen and start without doing anything first even with ruin while I’m stuck preparing for a chase that may or may not happen in that area .NuriFox said:The game is NOT unbalanced in favor of the survivors and the kill rate is NOT 2 survivors sacrificed and 2 escaped, that is the ideal match according to what the devs have stated in the past. Current stats show that killers score 4 kill matches far more often than they score less than 2 kills per match. Currently killer gameplay is scoring ideal match (2 kills, 2 escapes) or better more than half of their matches. Killers are not underpowered. The reason SOME (not even the majority, it's only a minority of highly experienced players) survivors are able to 'bully' killers is because they have superior game knowledge and use it effectively. The players that routinely 'bully' killers don't need to rely on perks and no amount of map changes or other changes will have a noticeable effect because these players adapt to changes and simply have the skill and tactics to do what they do. The minority of killers that play on the same level as that minority of survivors have routinely been scoring 4 kill matches in rank 1 games since the game released.
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I’ve made it to high rank with killer also this time and from my opinion now playing both sides to the highest, I think the characters themselves are balanced between killer and survivor , but without ruin or having poor totem placements in the map it’s gone in no time and it’s very hard to get everyone, i think it needs to be more “time” balanced I guess you would say, at the low ranks the killer has plenty of time because noobs don’t understand fully what they should do , but at the high ranks it’s a race to get everyone before the generators are done and usually the totem goes in the first minute so it’s almost pointless to have it unless you’re picking a good map for it and hopefully it’s not in the open like usual, I went from a 4K every game to now getting between 1-3 a game and sometimes no-k if ruin is immediately taken away and they are coordinated enough as a group. I don’t think killers need a buff but just simply more time somehowVietfox said:
Yes, that's why i said it's hard to believeGiche said:@Vietfox said:
Every swf u face is a deathsquad 4fl, 4ds and stuff? Hard to believe
Yes it is, do you even bother to rank up as a killer ? Hard to believe, you would perfectly know what we're all talking about.
And knowing that there's now SWF in all game started.
I can't remember the last time i got a legit full solo survivors lobby, laughable when you know that this game is balanced around it.
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No it happens all the time on PS4 idk if they just pull the plug or what but you go straight to the menu and lose whatever item you had along with offering and points , it’s trash to be honestSpitfireOrMichina said:You are supposed to keep your items and BP if the killer disconnect or if you have a connection probleme in any way. Weird.
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Even if you were pretending to farm, there’s nowhere that says you can’t use that as a strategy lol you never said you were farming and they shouldn’t assume otherwise , I’ve had it happen to me but it’s just a reminder you can’t really trust anyone while “farming”BlackHack said:when they throw them self on you to force you farm, how you deal with this? and he said (act like you'r farming) come one man p3 nurse farming? getting bored of this ######### i just wanna play the game normal.

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Only once? Dang that’s actually surprising, seems like I get that map at least once or twice a dayOrion said:I've only played on it once and found it confusing as hell.
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I think she does need the extra support on console, pc users probably will use it somewhat but the ones who have thousands of hours are gonna do what’s always worked for them anyway with her reguardless , and some may ask for the option to turn them off for distraction or misconceptions of what they’re used to.
Solution for now:
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It’s not really cheating it’s just for people who refuse to play against certain teams or players, I tried to argue that dodging any lobby with a good ping was wrong and deserves a time ban for wasting others time loading into their lobby but they disagreed , everyone is entitled to their opinion I suppose and if there’s nothing in the game preventing them from dodging or using programs to avoid things then they can do as they please and that’s the way it goes.slingshotsurvivor said:First question: What is this mlga thing?
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This needs to happen!
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But unless you’re against a sabo crew or people who body block and you don’t hit them away like you should then 9/10 times iron grasp at tier three will definitely help at the least prevent the others, of course it isn’t guaranteed but it does help the cause and especially coupled with agitationpauloandrade22 said:@lyric said:
Orion said:@lyric said:
Iron grasp basically counters it from the rest using it
You do not play Killer. You do not know what Iron Grasp actually does.
Yes I do play killer it takes longer to wiggle to 40 for the ones not the obsession so [BAD WORD] off with your attitude if you’re gonna sit here and get smart , insult and not have a actual conversation , everyone knows iron grasp can help against that
Its 1.5 to 2 more seconds until DS triggers. It actually ######### you more than without it.
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I never even said it was a good counter lol I never said git gud or anything , just simply stating I’ve noticed that I didn’t make the counter don’t blame mepauloandrade22 said:@Master said:
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@lyric said:
Buily09 said:"why is Decisive Strike considered Toxic and cancerous?"
* Image at least decent survivor, that is not bad and don't have to be good. It takes a lot of seconds to catch someone if that survivor is using looping (that's classic). If you manage to catch that survivor, this perk will give all other survivors even more time on objectives, that survivor have free escape without only one downside (losing that perk slot for free escape! wow! what a downside, right?! hah). That chase will go on even much longer. If that survivor can loop rly well and know map rly well.... well it's almost all game one chase, gg. It's toxic, becuase you allready take so much time to even catch someone (I don't count noob survivors that go down fast) and then you have to deal with that ******. That's why.
Also, NOED have counterplay, yes, it's still kind off easy perk to use and carry you ezi, but it has counterplay (destroy totems, that's not that hardcore, you can even use "Small game" for it). DS don't rly have counterplay. Only counterplay to DS is that DS user will get down within few meters from hook and you can pick him up and down, but still "bodyblock" says hello, so it can be denied.There is a manual counter to D strike but not a lot of people use it because it’s so rare it wont work majority of the time, but if you time it exactly right and swing at the exact same time they hit the skill check and I mean it has to be spot on, it move cancels D strike and doesn’t drop you, a friend of mine sent me the clip after a match they had and they weren’t in a being hooked animation and far from anything and it got canceled when it hit dead center, I tried it out as killer and it didn’t work for the longest time so I thought it was a fluke because you know how this game can be with bugs, but one day I nailed it dead on and the icon popped up on my screen but they didn’t drop.
So the killer has to hit a lullaby 5, invisible, small skill check that the survivor might not even hit? Holy [BAD WORD].
Classic survivor, dont even bother arguing

Nah hes alright .
I have seen much worse survivors trust me.
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Yes I do play killer it takes longer to wiggle to 40 for the ones not the obsession so ######### off with your attitude if you’re gonna sit here and get smart , insult and not have a actual conversation , everyone knows iron grasp can help against thatOrion said:@lyric said:
Iron grasp basically counters it from the rest using itYou do not play Killer. You do not know what Iron Grasp actually does.
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Iron grasp basically counters it from the rest using itMaster said:@feffrey said:
why is Decisive Strike considered Toxic and cancerous?
I mean it is a one time use hit or miss so I don't see the problem with it.
It's no more of a get out of jail free card than NOED is.what would be a good nerf to it if its to get needed?
If you get the skill check the killers drops you but you still stay in the dying phase?
If you land the skill check the killer drops you and you enter a borrowed time effect?
Or the killer can just go for you carefree now because you have wasted your only borrowed time?
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I never said it was a good counter lol I just said that’s the only way I knowpauloandrade22 said:@lyric said:
Buily09 said:"why is Decisive Strike considered Toxic and cancerous?"
* Image at least decent survivor, that is not bad and don't have to be good. It takes a lot of seconds to catch someone if that survivor is using looping (that's classic). If you manage to catch that survivor, this perk will give all other survivors even more time on objectives, that survivor have free escape without only one downside (losing that perk slot for free escape! wow! what a downside, right?! hah). That chase will go on even much longer. If that survivor can loop rly well and know map rly well.... well it's almost all game one chase, gg. It's toxic, becuase you allready take so much time to even catch someone (I don't count noob survivors that go down fast) and then you have to deal with that ******. That's why.
Also, NOED have counterplay, yes, it's still kind off easy perk to use and carry you ezi, but it has counterplay (destroy totems, that's not that hardcore, you can even use "Small game" for it). DS don't rly have counterplay. Only counterplay to DS is that DS user will get down within few meters from hook and you can pick him up and down, but still "bodyblock" says hello, so it can be denied.There is a manual counter to D strike but not a lot of people use it because it’s so rare it wont work majority of the time, but if you time it exactly right and swing at the exact same time they hit the skill check and I mean it has to be spot on, it move cancels D strike and doesn’t drop you, a friend of mine sent me the clip after a match they had and they weren’t in a being hooked animation and far from anything and it got canceled when it hit dead center, I tried it out as killer and it didn’t work for the longest time so I thought it was a fluke because you know how this game can be with bugs, but one day I nailed it dead on and the icon popped up on my screen but they didn’t drop.
So the killer has to hit a lullaby 5, invisible, small skill check that the survivor might not even hit? Holy [BAD WORD].
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Since it’s so easy you should have the video fairly quick also , it shouldn’t take many matches right? It’s so easy after allTh3Nightmare said:@Vietfox said:
One single survivor from 0 to 5 gens? That's killer's fault without a doubt.I have 1700 hours and I have been in rank 1 of survivor and easily the game gives me the ease of dizzy to killer by very good that is during all the game of 0 to 5 gens.
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Ok then post a video of YOU doing it at rank one right here in this thread, it doesn’t count if they are baby killers either. If you follow the same guy for all five gens it is absolutely your fault for not ending the chase and finding a weaker target , if you get the weaker target the troll will always come back and overly altruistic 9/10 times and everyone knows this , they can’t help ever themselvesTh3Nightmare said:@Vietfox said:
One single survivor from 0 to 5 gens? That's killer's fault without a doubt.I have 1700 hours and I have been in rank 1 of survivor and easily the game gives me the ease of dizzy to killer by very good that is during all the game of 0 to 5 gens.
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Why don’t they take away D strike and NOED, then it’s a fair trade because they both reward ######### gameplayKingSavageGaming said:Literally just got out of a game with 3 Decisive strikes this perk is stupid honestly don't know why they gave them the ok on this perk . -
There is a manual counter to D strike but not a lot of people use it because it’s so rare it wont work majority of the time, but if you time it exactly right and swing at the exact same time they hit the skill check and I mean it has to be spot on, it move cancels D strike and doesn’t drop you, a friend of mine sent me the clip after a match they had and they weren’t in a being hooked animation and far from anything and it got canceled when it hit dead center, I tried it out as killer and it didn’t work for the longest time so I thought it was a fluke because you know how this game can be with bugs, but one day I nailed it dead on and the icon popped up on my screen but they didn’t drop.Buily09 said:"why is Decisive Strike considered Toxic and cancerous?"
- Image at least decent survivor, that is not bad and don't have to be good. It takes a lot of seconds to catch someone if that survivor is using looping (that's classic). If you manage to catch that survivor, this perk will give all other survivors even more time on objectives, that survivor have free escape without only one downside (losing that perk slot for free escape! wow! what a downside, right?! hah). That chase will go on even much longer. If that survivor can loop rly well and know map rly well.... well it's almost all game one chase, gg. It's toxic, becuase you allready take so much time to even catch someone (I don't count noob survivors that go down fast) and then you have to deal with that ******. That's why.
Also, NOED have counterplay, yes, it's still kind off easy perk to use and carry you ezi, but it has counterplay (destroy totems, that's not that hardcore, you can even use "Small game" for it). DS don't rly have counterplay. Only counterplay to DS is that DS user will get down within few meters from hook and you can pick him up and down, but still "bodyblock" says hello, so it can be denied.
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I loved it because it made fun gameplay for people who were against campers,you just run up with borrowed time , drop that firecracker, and rip them off the hook , then everyone is blind running away hahaTigerKirby215 said:I had to play with my Claudette for some dailies and... damn: I still have Winter Party Starters on her!
Firecrackers are really simple to use and feel a lot less cheap than flashlights. They serve great as a one-time escape tool.I'd really like to see Firecrackers made into a regular item sometime. Different rarities could easily come with extra charges (1, 2, 3, and 4 from Yellow, Green, Purple, and Pink respectively) and addons could be made to increase the duration of the blind, increase / decrease the fuse timer, or possibly even allow survivors to pick up used Firecrackers to be used a second time. (Though I imagine with a weaker effect, and to only be useable one time.)
Please I'd really like to see these items used more.
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What platform do you play on ? On console I don’t think I’ve ever seen a hacker , only lag switchersMesme said:So I'm a tad bit salty but you can't really blame me for this and well this got me thinking and well is it possible currently to cheat in the game? I had a match a little while ago and sadly I don't have the gameplay recorded. However, I may see if I can find it again and post it either on YouTube or somewhere but back to the topic I had a game as a Killer where one of my survivors was just well what do I call it?
Speed hacking? They were too fast and I couldn't catch them period and after awhile they got trollish with it and I ended up just plugging the match because I wasn't gonna deal with it and this makes me a bit ranty on how these survivors were aiding this cheaters because I wasn't the only person who saw him go to 0 from 100 in a quarter of a second and no it want sprint burst he always kept moving way too fast and so I have to ask can you still cheat? I reported this guy for gameplay abuse but still I hope I will never see this again.
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I guess I can agree with some of what you’re saying but we all have our opinions, me personally I would never leave the pallet unbroken and keep trying to loop with the survivor but that’s just me , I never TRY to get bloodlust in a matchbillynair said:@lyric said:
Dude bloodlust really does nothing against loopers though because it resets when you break a pallet it’s only useful for window infinites unless you refuse to break the pallet and run in circles for five minutes as a strategy, and bamboozle would be way more effective than waiting on bloodlust if that’s a common problem for youit isnt a problem for me, since it is still in the game...
(I dont break pallets if I am TRYING to get BL, and I dont use it against players who are actually TRYING to get away, chases dont last that long, it is only against the toxic loopers who have no intention of playing the game, Loop or DC, that is their life)
And, Killers really only need it when they are playing any other killer than the Nurse or n00bs. If they take it away, you will still be able to loop to your hearts content, THAT will never go away, it is the only thing keeping this game alive
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No he can’t they were probably far enough to get hit out of the match and teabagging until he got tier 3 like a bunch of dicks if you want the truthMilo said:Wait i'm curious. Can Myers get Evil Within when you escape? Like when you are running ot the campfire?
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No I’m pretty sure they announced it in the last stream or two ago that bloodlust 2 is gonna be what bloodlust 3 is now with it gaining at a faster rate instead of granting more speedyeet said:@lyric said:
The rate you gain bloodlust is getting a buff while the speed is making bl3 now become bl2 is the nerf but it’s kind of not a nerf if you gain the bloodlust faster , who makes it all the way to bl3 anyway?they scrapped this, you aren't gonna gain BL faster
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Dude bloodlust really does nothing against loopers though because it resets when you break a pallet it’s only useful for window infinites unless you refuse to break the pallet and run in circles for five minutes as a strategy, and bamboozle would be way more effective than waiting on bloodlust if that’s a common problem for youbillynair said:@only1biggs said:
If you get bullied that's a you problem...Killers get bullied so they switch to Nurse so they can stand a chance against players like you who dont care about the game, only about being jackholes and making $$ of their stream.
Players who actually LIKE the game, want it to be balanced. BL allows Killers a CHANCE against toxic loopers like you so they can play something OTHER than Nurse. If you want to be Toxic AND you want Bl to get Nurfed, you will see nothing but Nurse in the future. If you are cool with such a skewed 1 killer only game, cool. complain to the devs to Nerf Nurse after they Nerf BL so you can see more Killers. Not because they made the Killers more balanced, but because they Nurfed ALL the killers into the ground so that it doenst matter who you play, because, they will all suck...
This post is about keeping the game active by keeping it fun for everyone, not about giving the Killer an unfair advantage. They ALREADY HAVE Bloodlust and still cant keep up with the Survivors, Take that away, and... you will have nothing but Nurse and n00b killers. (n00bs because they haven't found out how crappy it is to play any killer but Nurse against toxic loopers...)
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Lol It works like a charm I’m telling you, they get so full of themselves after those first couple of pallets that they use them all up I think it’s funny people complain about looping but literally allow it to happen by respecting the pallet too much and changing direction when they know a slam is coming , I’m like ######### it! Break that pallet on trap daddy so there aren’t any left except the ones I already trapped up .billynair said:@lyric said:
Gotta break those pallets take away the safe zones for everyone else, what I’ll do is I’ll initiate a chase with one in a pallet dense part of the map and let them stun me immediately thinking I was a dumbass and ran into their slam and then they will go crazy with going to each pallet thinking I’m “easy” and I’ll immediately get rid of about 3-4 with no looping THEN I start trying and when they try to loop me the pallets are gone and there are always a couple of weak links in the group who can’t keep the killer busy even with the pallets, it may be a dumb strategy but it got me to rank 5 as a killer when I main as a survivor and just play killer when I want a changehahhaha, i LOVE this strat!!
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You must be playing between ranks 9-15 thenJaPonii said:@lyric said:
I guess if you like watching all the gens pop around you while only one dies and getting tbagged at the exit gate by the others, then be my guest, most high ranks aren’t gonna fall for that and if they do it’s only because they were with friends and didn’t care to die anyway so then again majority of the time you’re not gonna get those other kills by campingYou think too highly of your fellow survivers, the majority of times they come and they die.
It's as simple as that..teamwork die together and all that
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I guess if you like watching all the gens pop around you while only one dies and getting tbagged at the exit gate by the others, then be my guest, most high ranks aren’t gonna fall for that and if they do it’s only because they were with friends and didn’t care to die anyway so then again majority of the time you’re not gonna get those other kills by campingJaPonii said:I love how the community agrees more that a Killer camping is bad.
But I am a Pig so it doesn't matter, we Pigs are suppose to camp, it's our skillset...if you're a Piggy like me and you say otherwise, get out our pack, you're no SAW fan!
We Pigs are natural born Campers and there ain't no sort of complaining that'll stop us from Ambushing ya'll.

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I like the concept they had for him being able to mimick survivors I wondered what that would be like to think you’re about to help a teammate and it’s really the killer , or if somehow he could choose any locker to teleport to and have zero terror radius while in the locker and just pop out and scare the ######### out of you on a gen lol I just thought the power concept they had was cool and could go in many directionsC4Garuda said:
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The rate you gain bloodlust is getting a buff while the speed is making bl3 now become bl2 is the nerf but it’s kind of not a nerf if you gain the bloodlust faster , who makes it all the way to bl3 anyway?
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Lol imagine built in kindred with a camping cloaked wraith and a flashlight