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Both are you crazy. S tier killers to me. They are my top 2 if I need a pick-me-up. You should buy all killers though.
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@DarkAster said:
Can you do a killer tier list of strong for you?
Yes I will give you my tier list based off HOW STRONG THEY ARE FOR ME. Unlike some people here lots look like normal list.
Obviously Knife boy is to be determined but this is based off my game with them not how powerful they are overall in the community.
My Best: Bring your SWF and play optimally to stand a chance for a escape or 2.
My 80%: SWF do decent but depends on if I'm on or not but 4/5 im 4k.
Rest are self explanatory.
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@latinfla4 said:
Lately as soon as survivors see i play doc 1 dcs out of every 10 games...just a curiosity I know people DC vs freddy Myers and spirit but what makes a person say nope I would rather take the penalty? A friend of mine dcs if he gets haddonfield as killer🤣
Just recently got BBQ on doc so I added him to my rotation of Huntress, Bubba, Freddy, Mike, clown, legion so he gets used every 7 games and I swear it's crazy last night I had back to back games with a D.King who DC'ed in my Doc game and the following with Legion thought it was funny cause they were both Davids and I recently had a solo survivor game where I got teamed up with 3 davids and they were so bad they just sat up in coal tower together hopping in and out of lockers. Freddy with my sweat ropes no dc, Somehow destroyed a team with mike on red forest last night at 4 gens no dc, clown with pinky finger and 2+ bottle add-on no dc, but doc and legion I see it often and I don't even have thana on legion his perks are green still.
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Killer picked, killers perks, survivors perks, map, map rng (pallets, vaults, walls, etc) are all variables in a match that can determine the way things go. In matches like these its still best to go hard cuz you can 4k in end game you never know.
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@chargernick85 said:
Freddy was the first license killer I bought not because I knew he was some powerful killer just cuz he was my childhood favorite. Playing him at all ranks I feel removing the passive sleep or at least reducing how quickly it comes or should I say increasing, survivors being able to use any alarm clock, and I what even throw in snares cannot stack Once you walk through one another cannot affect you until the first one has ended its effect. I don't think there should be a cool down on snares you already have a charge time and there's already a limit to them.
Phase changes I'm okay with just because of solo queue and what they have to deal with that being said there's only two or three killers that in my opinion have a decent chance against a good swf. Freddy and his current state can be wrecked by one Spirit nurse and a debatable but great oni and hag are other options and all four better than Fred. I know we shouldn't balance around swf but I also feel that the average killer should have a weapon against them these killers are those weapons. Sucks when you go against them in solo queue I get that.
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Freddy was the first license killer I bought not because I knew he was some powerful killer just cuz he was my childhood favorite. Playing him at all ranks I feel removing the passive sleep or at least reducing how quickly it comes or should I say increasing, survivors being able to use any alarm clock, and I what even throw in snares cannot stack Once you walk through one another cannot affect you until the first one has ended its effect. I don't think there should be a cool down on snares you already have a charge time and there's already a limit to them.
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@GannTM said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/234894/have-the-devs-considered-a-freddy-nerf
And yet again someone shaming people for playing a certain killer. Freddy may be easy but that doesn’t give you the right to call out Freddy mains. Also, he isn’t overpowered at all. Nurse, Spirit, Hag, Oni, Huntress, PH, and Blight are all easily better than him imo.
Well said. Take my up vote.
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I have my beefs with the rift but I don't finish all challenges during the actual Rift and I still always finish. It's also not because I'm on dead by daylight all day I have a full-time job and 4 kids so I'm lucky if it's 2 hours a day during the week. Challenges I know that are time consuming I save for the end unless they have to be done to proceed which most of the time they can be avoided.
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@Phasmamain said:
I want a Jeff face so bad. Bubba needs a beard
All this would be so awesome
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Yeah my bubba is prestige 3 ranked 47 and I still don't have Jake's face I be forgetting about it though.
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I ussually don't like playing steamers as I'm always on a rotation of like 6-7 killers and they change constantly. None of my killers have every perk to combat everything I need them. Since I am still leveling all my killers I am more of a jack of all trade type so when I see a streamer party I sometimes don't see the point in there meta party versus my yellow/green perk killer I barely use so I will dodge (since can't switch my killers). Now when I am using killers I have a bit more time into or at least a set of decent perks it can be a great learning experience. So I just recently started watching streams (Tofu, Monto my Favs for now) but before I never did like ever. My 13 year old son is obsessed with watching them all like sometimes will watch instead of play. So I load into a game with Slinger not alot of time spent on him but enough and things are going decent. The kids are on there laptops like norm so I'm enjoying my game and this crew was good (didn't notice the ttv in lobby) flashlights, 4 DH, yata yata and there ahead and they pop the gen on the hanging deck (saloon) as I coming up the stairs they scatter well I screwed up and couldn't decide who to chase and jumped off, looking around, and fired mid air and hit the streamer still one of my best shots with him. When the game ends my son goes Dad they were playing you (no one knew wish I did). Found out he called me a god because I didn't miss any of my shots against them (I'm not next game missed like 6) and also got some advice in other areas. I would still rather only play them when I am more equiped for it that way they get the correct challenge as well.
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@Mandy said:
You really don't need to press as fast as you can...that can actually cause you to get killed as the inputs don't register. I don't have struggle on my space bar, i find it a lot easier on my mouse wheel so I can just scroll down.
You have to take console into consideration though. Does not matter what button we switch it to we will need a new remote at some point. Most want some kind of change skill checks, hold button, etc. Either is better then smashing which I have to do on console. Pressing calmly is a guaranteed death on console with lag/frame drops. One teammate uses dead hard while I'm struggling and it could be the end of us all same if the killer has sloppy. Things had got better for awhile but are regressing again. Frame drops are starting to spike again.
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@Blueberry said:
Resident Evil and Alien are at the top of my license list.
I want to run around with a xenomorph so bad. he in fortnite now sooo uhhh.
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@Gaffy said:
I'm not saying good hearted people in this game don't exist, but they are SO rare it is honestly sad. I try and play nice as killer then get called a crutch needer or bad for having that one perk people don't like. I play bad and get stomped by survs and get called bad because they just used macmillan infinites or some other dumb stuff. I find it very hard to just play how I like and feel like I'm being nice to people, because half the time when I actually do people just flame me anyway. Any tips?
It's ok to be nice so to speak but only to a certain extent because it is very very rarely returned. For instance I will not tunnnel or proxy ever until I absolutely have too. That's about as nice as I get now though survivors are vicious I have learned of late and I mean all of them unless of course they are losing. I know whoever reads this is going to say do class all survivors this way but when I learned nurse it took almost 3 weeks (on console) to start consistantly winning so it was rough to say the least but was made it harder? bullying and I mean everyone got in on the fun when I would finnally get a down all 3 would stand by the hooks, flashlight clicks, tbags, the best one standing at exit gate pretending to let me get a practice blink only to run out or dead hard out the gate, and 3-5 minute games like what's the rush no 1 in danger max out your points and let me try to blink more than 5 times a match geez. Oh well water under the bridge now oh wait know it's not that's why I'm slugging for the 4k, hooking the last survivor right next to hatch and shaking my head, hell I had the last 2 snoot my boop last night and I still killed them both hooking the sweet yui next to hatch. She messaged me after and said "I thought we had something?" I had to explain it to her and she completely understood. Point being stop being a d*ck because you never know what monster you will make and how many they will effect and then make themselves. Vicious cycle.
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Then maybe you won't hate him so much and can just hate Spirit like everyone else.
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@CryptFriend said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2013799#Comment_2013799
I assumed they told him because I keep getting notifications near them when I play him!
... Also, my first response was to someone who said that "Freddy is an M1 killer if you play your cards right." I responded with "yes, but actually no, here's why I disagree."
People seemed to take this as "FrEddY OP PLZ nERf," and I'm really not getting the reasoning behind that assumption.
It's fair to say I don't understand everything about Freddy. I acknowledged that already and tipped my figurative hat to those who corrected me--don't "Bruh!" at me as though I told you that you're wrong with nothing else of substance. Aggression my keister!
Also, fixing your formatting:
You're right, Your exact quote was "Playing him isn't fun or challenging like the old Freddy."
Then why complain so much about him in this thread!?
Also you made it clear in this thread that you don't understand everything about him not to mention you were aggressive towards other people responding to you.
I mean, you thought alarm clocks told Fred were you are. Bruh!
Sorry if you take offence to the above fixes, the layout and grammatical mistakes were bothering me. Feel free to tell me off for it, it's just something I needed to do, like eating M&Ms in matching pairs or sorting books by color.
If that your thing and you got that kind of free time so be it. Since you have the free time to re-type messages in correct format maybe you can watch some youtube clips on Freddy so you have a better understanding of his FEW counters. Even if it's just a few he still has them. BRUH
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@CryptFriend said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2012881#Comment_2012881
So when exactly did I say he was unbeatable?
Because people keep spouting that off like broken records in my general direction, and I'm questioning why.
The rest of your post is completely fair, btw. I have no issues and even agree with what you're saying--but in that case I should be able to play old Freddy.
You know. The killer I paid for?
Anyway, aggression aside, you have a right to your opinion, and I agree with it.
Your right Your exact quote was "Playing him isn't fun or challenging like the old Freddy." Then why complain so much about him in this thread. Also it was clear in this thread you didn't understand everything about him and were aggressive towards other people responding to you. I mean you thought alarm clocks told fred were you are. Bruh!
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@ProfGameAndTalk said:
I've prestiged the killers that I really enjoy playing with since I'm going to be playing with them regardless. Dropping all their perks and rebuilding them has helped me play with sub-par builds and it's a nice change of pace. I've got Doc and Spirit to P3, Clown and Bubba to P2, Hag and Nurse to P1. I'm not gaining anything material from doing it, it's just a neat thing for me to look at and say that I did it.
All this to say that there's only your preference that matters, you won't get anything material that you just can't live without.
This. Playing with new perks after prestige is so fun. Also very satifying to smash people with yellow and green perks at rank one. Anyway to the OP I started playing about a week after chains of Hate and I have all wait that mean my 1 year anniversary is here oh yeahh. So I have Huntress, Fred, and bubba P3 level 50. I have spirit, Wraith, Pig at P3 just not at 50 yet. The rest of the killers are all around level 30 -32 P2 in one year. My survivors I just did my Baby Gurl Nancy to P3 so far and my Side chick Zarina (Don't tell Nancy). The rest are at level 50 but I will do them soon as I finish the rest of my killers. It really aint that bad theres events to help I made good use out of the anniversary cakes and I work all day only get 2-3 hours max a day. I just don't see a point dumping bloodpoints into a character at first 50 such a waste in my eyes. Hope they come out with some good prestige rewards other than cosmetics and slight better add-ons even tho I would have done it anyway. Might as well spend the BP on something. Can dump BP in a level 50 P3 instead.
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@Volcz said:
Whats wrong with being sweaty/competitive? This is a multiplayer game. If it upsets you so much, derank to the 16-20 range and farm/have fun there. Different strokes for different folks.
This. It's just what red ranks is about. Ever since my nurse trials I win end the game at 5 gens and move on, slug for hatch, carry you to hatch shake my head then hook your ass, proceed to slap the final survivor on hook until game ends. Survivors created me when I was simply trying to learn Nurse I am so butthurt from it that I take it out everyone with every killer. Why should Nurse have all the fun now.
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It does have a lot of pallets like a lot. However if you use the breakable walls right meaning only kick down certain ones at certain times you catch survivors off guard and or trap them. I have got this map 4 times so far twice with bubba and twice with Huntress all four times expecting to be doomed. I wasn't. I still would rather have the game then haddonfield, cow tree, and autohaven. Autohaven is just not for me just worst luck imaginable.
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@Bravobro said:
I'm surprised it's possible, but in a match as a leatherface where I had a surviving always in the hunt. Have managed to make without adding perks and with two tool boxes with sabotage addons 5 gens in 3 minutes. How????? Please fix it.....
I had this happen to my bubba last night. I'm at rank 1 and roate alot of killers so before someone says my skill is off I'll say not so much. However do have bad games? Hell yeah who don't. Got Autohaven the one with shack at one end and the cabin at other such a ######### map. However means nothing on most of my killers but Bubba Meh. It was one of those games where disco procs so much you can't keep up and you just got to decide I want some hooks and BBQ stacks. Well had to be at the 5 minute mark there on last gen and I down one at basement. Yes heres my chance. Nope they said F*ck it and left him. These games just chalk it up to timing - map, Map rng, Your skill that match, focus, decision making, the survivors, and last but not least the BNP I found was in play and the 2 Prove thyselves. ######### happens. Good news the guy left in the basement was the BNP.
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@CryptFriend said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2012225#Comment_2012225
I question the tone that I'm getting from you right now.
Bit of an assumption that I play swf when I'm just trying to be inclusive for "the lads" who do actually play pure swf. Also an assumption that I have to be on comms to call out the killer/totems/traps/gen progress/perks/etc. It's not impossible, just harder.
Yes, SWF is hard for killers to play against. Yes, it can be very unfair for new killers. Yes, bully squads are comprised of [BAD WORD] folks.
That doesn't mean that I'm not allowed to dislike Freddy, get off your high horse.
By the by, I enjoy playing killer frequently, and I still hate Freddy. Playing him isn't fun or challenging like the old Freddy.
He didn't need to be "standardized," he was hard for a reason.
There is something that everyone don't like just got to deal and adapt. When I'm killer I don't like toolboxes with BnP and Prove thyself because I feel there's more than enough resources in most maps (not all) that average survivors can keep/extend chases long enough to win games. The way some of these maps spawn is beyond absurd so 4 survivors who don't have to be great but just understand to be on gens anytime they are not in chase, healing, or rescuing is tough to deal with time wise and that's were most of the tunneling, slugging, and proxy camping come from. We all just got to deal not make forum post about freddy, spirit, DS, UB, SB, yata, yata, yata. Neither side truthfully gives a ######### anymore. Survivors should be able to run what they want and a killer should be able to not only run what he want but use the killer he Fuki**g paid for with being shamed on the forums, end game chat, xbox messages, where ever. ALL killers require skill or there kill rates would be 100% some just need way more than others.
Side note Freddy is more than capable to be beaten. I played my final match to get him to P3 lvl 50 last night and a Nea escaped through the gate. Yeah there were 4 gens left but so what she escaped. It can be done.
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@YourNightmare said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/233831/freddy-shows-what-is-wrong-with-this-game
What you didn't understand about the game is this point :
- actually you need skill to win a trial
This game was made to be competitive and because cry babies killer mains, it's now a casual game and we always see the same killers, again and again.
If you can't get 2k+ giving good chase and map control with Demogorgon or Trapper then you are a terrible killer player, period.
Killer mains that rely on Freddy, Stridor Spirit or Hag to get wins and rank up are just noobs. That's why we meet so many red rank killers that are terribles with any other killers, it's because they are bad, not because the game is unbalanced.
It's the same for survivors, most of them are boosted to red ranks...
So backstory I use all my killers but obviously I have my favs so some I aint quite as good with. Depending on the killers I'm running with I am between ranks 1-3. So I perform very optimally MOST not all but MOST of the time with every killer except HAG, and Spirit. Those two I just uhhhhhhhhhhhh. So your logic is crack pipe. Your good with who fits your style and the ones your not you have to put in extra work to see if you can ever play them.
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Oh you done did it now
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@Generator said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2010604#Comment_2010604
Pretty sure it's Bubba, Spirt, and Freddy rn
Well I heard Hag today I thought. I don't mind any it's the people controlling them that can be annoying.
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@chargernick85 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/233824/so-many-leatherfaces
Bruh what's wrong wit bubba? Seriously as a rank 1-2 killer I can honestly say bubba not as powerful as you think. Just stay seperated and keep an eye out for vault locations and if you play my bubba don't worry you will be on gas heaven or cow tree map every time so plenty of counters. My bubba hates rng.
I also run no slowdown on my bubba so maybe that adds to it idk.
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@BitingSea said:
I've been trapped in Green Ranks just because of this dude and they always have meta builds and then stomp my team. At this point I should quit playing survivor because not only are my teammates just unreliable but Leatherface is probably my most hated killer in the game and going against him over and over is just making me a toxic mess and it sucks because I like survivor. Is there like any counterplay at all to this dude or is he just like Spirit but magnified
Bruh what's wrong wit bubba? Seriously as a rank 1-2 killer I can honestly say bubba not as powerful as you think. Just stay seperated and keep an eye out for vault locations and if you play my bubba don't worry you will be on gas heaven or cow tree map every time so plenty of counters. My bubba hates rng.
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@kingcarl2012 said:
For survivor, I love me some deja vu, gotta stop those teammates from forcing us into an ugly 3 gen.
Honorable mention for fun factor, Head on when you make it work is hilarious.
For killer, gotta go with corrupt intervention, being able to get a down without losing 2 or 3 gens is amazing.
Honorable mention for fun factor, Dark Devotion same as head on super fun when you get it to work.
Dark devotion on the chainsaws is so funny.
Survivor - Resilience. I love 99'ing my health using the boost. Everytime I finish a gen I say Resilienced Bi*CH. Can't spell it but can say it.
Survivor fun - SB/Fixated - Walking as the killer is getting closer and closer then gone poof. Swing and a miss. Can't F**ckin stand this as killer but I'll admit it's fun.
Killer - This where it get's hard. I'll go with Pop and here's why. You here a gen about to go off and you hook the guy who was on it and pop it in there face and can hear the gen lose the progression. The sound it makes is so satisfying.
Fun- The mori daily - Rancor/Furtive/nemesis - No way are you keeping track of the obsession in this one survivors and if your real lucky you can mori the first one fast enough to get in a chase with a 2nd and get them to drop a pallet on you so you can mori another.
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Most of the problems come from people not understanding the game. This goes for both roles but I will use my game from last night to explain this. I'm playing doc for first time in awhile because I got BBQ to finnally show up in my web so I didn't go in expecting to 4k but I am a try hard now so maybe lets see what happens. There doing well got there usual 3 gens quick and a 4th by killer shack had good progress so at this point in the game and good killer should know this is the time they need to look for any opening to swing the momentum. Now Steve was on death hook and still injured so static blast, scream, theres Steve, steve dead. Kick gen with pop to buy time. Meg wants a chase I got a good 30 seconds lets give it a go. She makes the mistake of going for the vault at killer shack and I get the lunge just in time and the basement was there. Remember there a gen with progress right outside of shack so why? i double check the progress, hook in basement and pop it. Now I can patrol this gen and the basement and lucky me another gen not far from the other side of shack and with static blast I know where the other two are coming from. So apparently this is proxy camping but I call it perfect tide shifting and poor Meg died down there because no teammate would swap hooks, had BT/would use it, or would even attempt to go down there and didn't work gens. So not my fault the whole team died right? Meg shouldn't be mad at me right? The survivors should be mad at themselves but how many times do they lash out at the killer. Same goes for when killers play like ######### then blame a survivor for cranking gens, having perks, or the funniest one looping lol.
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@GeneralV said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2007546#Comment_2007546
Not exactly. Take this match, for example. It was my first match of the day, and as soon as I join the lobby someone is already holding a key. I know it is Swing Chains and Jump Rope instead of Red Paint Brush, but people complain about this combo, don't they?
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/4PEDS9WXO0JB/nokeysallowed.png
yes. Pretty much you have to run pallet fred with ######### perks to not get complaints.
I have been pretty ruthless lately and by that I mean at no point in the trial do I take my foot off the gas. Surprising I have not got any hate just GG's which is also weird because up to that point I only seen GG from a survivor when they won.
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Well top 10 can change per killer so I'll take the average. I play solo so I focus on gens as you don't know if your team will. Top 4 will be my go to on most except certain killers.
Survivor:
1.Resilience
2.Prove Thyself
3.Sprint Burst
4.Fixated
5.Stake Out
6.Pebble
7.Autodidact
8.Bond
9.Urban - if running SB and dont have fixated.
10.We'll make it.
Killer:
1.BBQ - Only here because it's the perk I pray for the most after prestige so they can be leveled faster not because best perk to run.
2.Discordance - Keeping multiple people of gens is key especially if prove thyself is in play.
3.Tinkerer - Will run with Disco if available in case they split to counter I have the counter for that as well. Ran together = CRAZY pressure
4.POP - C'mon
5.Infectious - 2nd hits/downs are tremendous pressure that shouldn't be taken lightly.
6.Monitor - Extra 8 meters does more than people realize but the FOV buff and increasing your terror radius in a chase (Increased infectious) are what makes it special.
7.Sloppy - Minus a few ranged killers this perk is great on just about everyone. What's not to love unless you get the frame drops from it.
Those are the perks that if I have them they are ran period. The rest are killer based and ran if others are missing but still loved by me.
8.Nurses Calling - Love it on anyone honestly but lil extra on huntress and PH.
9.Bamboozle - bubba main one I am using this on because I get terrible maps with him but great perk.
10.STBL - SO fun love it on my piggy but have terrible luck with obsession sitting on my junk.
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@shane32 said:
All the other OP perks that need to be a hex are Predator, Remember me, Mad grit, Nemesis and hangmans trick.
For sure Hangman's. OMG that perk is stupid. One nerf aint enough lets make it a hex, 300 sec cooldown, and you need to hit a survivor while carrying another survivor before it will proc.
Still can't believe it was nerfed before. I started playing about a week after chains of hate so anyone know what hangmans did b4 now to get the nerf? Right now I think its 6 mters from hooks.
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@ChiSoxFan11 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2006291#Comment_2006291
I run BBQ on almost all of my killers, and it's pretty much for BP primarily. I run it on The Pig, who I play the most, and after a hook, this is how things play out:
1) I don't see anyone on BBQ. Are the other survivors in lockers or close by? Who knows? But I'm not getting any help.
2) I see someone way across the map, but I know other survivors are closer (either lurking for a save, or working on a nearby gen), so I ignore the person I see with the aura reading, making that knowledge useless.
3) I see someone on BBQ and I head in their direction. If they were moving, they've probably changed direction as my terror radius alerts them I'm coming, so I might be going on a wild goose chase in the wrong direction and end up wasting precious time. If they were stationary, then they're either going to hide or start moving away when they hear me coming. In either case, it's as likely that I end up wasting my time as I do actually finding someone. And of course, finding someone and actually running them down and hooking them are two different things, as the latter is nowhere near a guarantee.
4) I see multiple people on BBQ. So, all of the above applies, except even knowing someone is somewhere, I'm still might not be heading in their direction, as I have multiple potential targets, so BBQ is zero threat to them.
If I wasn't burning through BP at an astounding rate on survivors and killers who have monstrous bloodwebs filled with useless stuff at Level 50 on everyone, there are numerous perks that I'd be running instead. Sloppy Butcher for one. Thrilling Tremors (which gives even more important location info on survivors AND blocks gens, making it arguably a more powerful perk, or certainly an underrated one) is another. Or any of the ones you suggested as well.
i took the time to read that mentioned there were 10-15 perks better than BBQ. I highlighted the Tracking/Aura ones to make a point. Sloppy is ran regardless of BBQ on alot of my killers. Short point Killers will be much more dangerous without BBQ taking a slot
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When MMR goes live all ranks will be reset. So quite frankly we won't know if working or not for quite some time once live. The original MMR worked fine for most of my killers I think they are on right track as I agree not all killers should be gauged the same.
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@Hulksmash6565 said:
If not a hex it should be like distortion tbh give them 3 tokens to start with and lose perk after the 3 tokens are gone. Seems fair by me. All the killers that say they only use it for bp are lying tbh your using it bc you cant find survivors. Hell I play both sides and dont use it and I get to rank 2 but there is not need for the aura reading perk. Use common sense and your ears and you wont have any problems
No. Just no. Whatever you are on please send me some. No killer is using is for aura reading and if they are they are foolish because there are at least 3 better perks for this - Whispers, Nurses, Infectious are all better at finding survivors than BBQ. I can't wait for all my killers to be P3 here shortly to take BBQ out of my build to put something better in and by better at least 10-15 perks I would rather run. So again. NO
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@Sluzzy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2005806#Comment_2005806
Why not? Look at balanced landing. It wasn't all that great most of the time, it happened to be a little better on one certain map, killers moaned and about it and the devs took care of it promptly. This kind of balancing should apply to BBQ too if they should be consistent. Too OP on fast killers. Tinkerer is also too strong.
Um no they didn't nerf BL they just made it do wat it was supposed to all along. That's not a nerf it's a bug fix. And like someone else said lets nerf stridor since 1 killer great with it. So what. Do you really die that much? If so it's sad and yes I play solo and it's not the killer most of the time that makes me die it's trash can survivors. Learn please.
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@Sluzzy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2005686#Comment_2005686
That is a good point. If double-bp was on a weaker perk they wouldn't use it, because they would use puddings if they wanted double-bp. It's an excuse because the aura reveal is game changing. If a survivor perk was this powerful it would have already had the nerf hammer, probably multiple times.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2005620#Comment_2005620
Killers still do camp even with BBQ. And that is what is very bad about the perk, they are rewarded for camping (getting more stacks). But my main issue is that it is too strong for a high mobility killer. It's too OP on Freddy.
You can't nerf perks because it's stong on one killer. Pop is too strong on freddy to. Oh so is tinkerer, disco, hell I'll tear your arms off using gearhead with fred (ive done it) lets nerf gearhead Oh wait forgot they did. Still stong on fred lets nerf again. Not good argument.
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So Correct me if I am wrong please but I don't remember being told my aura is read by the killer at the beginning of my time playing. I played quite a bit of survivor this weekend to finish up some rift challenges and a icon appears in the bottom right cornor anytime your aura is red by the killer. This allows you time to adjust and tells you the perk they are using. Icon appears after a hook? that's BBQ, Healing? Nurses, etc. ZSo besides the counters to BBQ there is this new icon that says hey killer knows where you are run or hide. Was this a new hud thing? Or did I just not notice it before? Either way you want a nerf as well with all the counters and being told your aura was read?
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@wraith_nea said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2005553#Comment_2005553
Havent got her yet maybe it is fun to force rbt like a scummy pig. Ive been longing for surveilence as well, would do wonders to my wraith!
just don't tunnel people with traps. Don't be that guy. It doesn't help anyone.
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@wraith_nea said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2005508#Comment_2005508
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2005550#Comment_2005550
Loool thanks guys you realy crack me up!
I dont have a son yet tho so cant have my own victor to help haha
Thats why I stopped swf. Waiting sometime up to 30 mins late night to just finish in less than 5 mins. Its pointless.
Not sure how to take you referring to my son as Victor but I think I get your point. Well good luck on improving in the fog.
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You should add my piggy to your list. She is soooo good. If those really are the killers you use the most you should do well with her.
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@Yumyumtasty said:
If I see a TTV with Object who gives out information to his 4 manI just streamsnipe, fair is fair and streamsniping is not a bannable offense afaik.
@Forrestgump said:
Use monitor and infectious and slug everyone, going for hooks against good survivors is pointless.
Both great. Soon as I see TTV/YT with object I'll yell for my son to get on there channel and spy for me. Monitor and Infectious are like peanut butter and jelly mmmmmmgoood. Mostly use this combo on Bubba, nurse, mike but if played correctly can be used ob everyone. Well hag maybe not. plague, legion and especially Clown are underrated imo. Wraith I have not tried since his update and trapper is severly addon dependant but still dangerous in the right hands. I love your killer list.
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@Sluzzy said:
It doesn't take long to notice the elephant of all perks on either side: BBQ. A pay-to-win perk on a licensed DLC. Used on every killer for the tremendous advantage and value. This perk is literally spammed in every game. It should be a HEX perk or nerfed to lose the aura reading.
BBQ was released when survivors were much stronger along with maps. Maps were also easier to hide. Survivor perks are always nerfed only when considered being used on a good SWF. The same logic and fair balancing should apply to killers. To beat a good killer you must work on gens for every second possible. You cannot spend your entire match looking and hiding in lockers because the killer will have a huge upper hand as this is the only counterplay provided to stop the aura. He most likely has Ruin so the gen is losing progress when you leave it. Too much advantage for a perk.
There is another reason why being a HEX would be an excellent change to BBQ. A killer that camps can still be awarded BBQ stacks if he uses NOED or when saves occur. He is awarded for the thing the perk was originally designed to prevent in the first place! If the perk is a HEX perk the killer will be in a race to hook as many different survivors as possible before the totem is destroyed. This will create pressure on the killer to guard totems, gens, and hook survivors in the process instead of camping and being awarded for it with a perk.
If it is not a HEX perk it needs to lose the aura reading because it gives too much value for one perk alone. This perk has been overpowered and abused by high mobility killers way too long.
I really don't like you.
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I feel like this alot. It's up and down with them I feel. Had my best game ever with them last night could have won at 5 gens but had some fun with a jane and zarina before I killed them. Barely have a page of perks on them but had Green disco and tinkerer and was flying accross the map. Tried double fatigue add-ons so didn't lose really any distance when frenzy ended. There aren't too many close games I can remember with legion it's either stomp or be stomped. But regardless they always fun to me.
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@ArchFox said:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/LJ5OHB5URFUH/20210306015630-1.jpg
I don't want to play Nurse anymore.
One Nea felt so bad for me she just dropped her medkit at the exit for me and left.
This was me just 2 weeks ago. I started out at rank 2 and was beating down to rank 6. Theres mixed feelings on plaid flannel I personally learned with it and adjusted after a few games when it came off. Also perks will help just don't give up she is fun and very rewarding you want her in your arsenal trust me on that. Once you get that first win everything changes
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@Adtaleur said:
I'm really enjoying both roles in the game and I consider myself as an average player (surely not amongst the bests and not noob anymore : 1k hours). My goal when I start the game is to sit down and have a good time.
The last 2 months, I constantly face 1 or 2 red ranks as a rank 10-11 killer...
No need to wait until the game ends to see the ranks, when you play, you immediately feel the potential of survivors.
Experience learnt me to leave the strongest survivors in the early game. But even then, they know how to be efficient on gens, and I get my first hook when they already finished 2,5 gens (halve their objectives while I'm only at 1/12).
I set importance to improve my gameplay. But the fun factor is even more important to me. And I'm missing this the past weeks...
The same goes when I'm a survivor. When you face a killer with a much lower level as you, there is no fun. You don't feel the threat and the pressure. Although that's why we play this game, right ?
I mean matchmaking was never great and is certainly a complex issue to fix. But I feel the trend is worsening highly.
I am wondering if this feeling was also shared by others down here. Are there any concrete info from BHVR that they are adressing this issue ?
I mean...if people don't play killer, Ithey won't buy any new DLC...
i can't imagine they are letting this issue standing still for so long...
Or maybe I see things wrong and you're just supposed to have fun when you play survivors ?
I used to feel this way too. I still have games like these but it's most of the time when I'm using killers I don't have time in with and are just doing a daily with. Just work on your fundamentals and it will help in most games with all killers (except nurse) then you just have to master the power and when and not to use them. Also losing 1-3 gens is when the game starts don't let that bother you. I kinda suck with hag (don't have the time in) and had a daily last night went around trapping my 3 hexes (I know risky but my perks sucked) lost 2 gens doing that and a third on my way to a surveillance gen so needless to say I had 1-2 hooks with 1 gen left and the gens were scattered but didn't matter 4k anyhow. Figure out your weaknesses and build your perks around that. Sounds like you could benefit from Discordance honestly any time it procs break chase and hed there. Also almost always procs right at start of match.
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@SentinelCaptain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1995949#Comment_1995949
Well I meant more as in actually putting an effort into the match and not playing for the meme after I get it out of the way.
Oh I see. Honestly I always followed to survivors lead on it. I never went looking to do it was more when 1 or 2 survivors had died, or dc/suicides. Not right at beginning of game never did that. if they do it at beginning you should play normally (well the rules say always play normally).
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@SentinelCaptain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1992954#Comment_1992954
Love doing this as The Pig, but is it considered rude to play normally afterwards? Like if I can get at least 2 or 3 Survivors to boop, then I start playing seriously.
I never played serious after until I learned nurse. My heart will never heal from that and every survivor I play better bring there A game because I have never played this tryhard until now. I have never been able to slug and watch for 4 minutes and now i'll grab a piece of cheesecake and smile at you crawl. Mmm GOOD.
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@Mysterynovus said:
I always give the hatch to the last one standing if their teammates DC'd on them early, especially when a whole SWF DCs. I know what's like to be in solo queue just to have salty "teammates" dip because they got hooked in under two minutes.
letting the 4th get hatch was a must for me. If there was a DC or suicide early I would take my foot off the gas and make sure the rest got points and probably survive. This was because I played both sides and had a sympathy for both roles . However that same courtesy is not giving by both roles and therefore I stopped and will slug the ######### out of you before I let you get the hatch. If you survive you earned that #########. This change of heart as I have said before happened when I learned nurse and every game I played (when I sucked) I was tortured/abused by every single survivor. Not 1 and I truly mean not 1 was respectful with there gameplay only 1 nice message after there **** gameplay. I won't go into details because killers and survivors know what happens. Even the survivors that claim they don't do sorry I don't buy it. Something clicks in you when you get someone learning a new killer and you can't help yourselves. Well now enjoy 4 minutes in the dirt.
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My build for nurse right now is Thana, Dying light, Surge, Infectious. Will swap dying light for Corrupt when it shows up in my web tho.
