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@Sarief said:
M2Fream said:
SovererignKing said:Barring the other points, as Powerbats said, I’ll tell you now that NOED is not balanced. Ruin could use a tweek to make it less susceptible to be made irrelevant that is true.
NOED is a crappy cheese, and the only perk I consider a crutch for Killers. It a cheesy “Comeback” perk that rewards failure. Sure, the game isn’t balanced and Survivors are too strong, thanks to Gen Rushing being too easy to pull off, thanks to Looping making it a nightmare to catch anyone. However that’s not justification for a perk like NOED.
Good Killers can be cucked by bad map balance, bad mechanics, unbalanced Survivor perks, this is true. However the opposite is also true. Killers who are legitimately bad at the game can easily get carried hard by NOED. Killers that absolutely do not deserve to get much can get a ton.
Take this Huntress for example:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hwMKJtVdFeYCouldn’t land a hatchet throw to save his life. Missed even regular swings. Spent the whole match just trying to tunnel one dude out. Got one other person... Then NOED. Snowballed the whole damn team. You may use the defense of “break the totems!” I did, but only a SWF can coordinate knowing if they broke all 5 totems. It’s really unrealistic to expect 4 randoms to make sure they got all 5 totems.
I for one would rather the balance the game and get rid of crutches like NOED. It’s just not fair legitimately bad Killers can get carried by one perk. Same as DS, it carries bad Survivors.
Side Note : Honestly when it comes to SC, they just need to give it limited uses. The whole reset to zero thing is kind of stupid imo. It’s the Killers fault in the first place the Survivor got away and was able to self care. YOU as the Killer failed to track your prey properly. The problem with self care really is how little it means to be injured while body blocking. The developers just need to limit it to 3 uses l, so Survivors have to be more judicial.
Lastly, Spint Burst needs a change that you have to be running for 3 seconds before it activates imo. That way it doesn’t just cuck Ambush Killers so hard.
Doesnt that mean self care rewards failure? You know, with the getting hit and all...
That is bad interpretation.
You cannot design like that.
It is there, because it is neededNeeded? Maybe.
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@Mister_xD said:
DS will still free you from the killers grasp. this works ONLY when you hit a tremendously hard skillcheck, once per match and for the obsession.
All those "hard skillcheck" is doing NOTHING to balance the perk.
Because the problem is with good survivor. Those will hit the skillcheck anyway. These are the player that just ignore Ruin and power through it with great checks.
It only punishes lesser skillful player that struggle to hit those skillchecks.
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Self Care
Sprint Burst
Bond
4th can vary, Alert, Iron Will, Plunderer, Stake Out, We'll make it -
@Eveline said:
Yes it is but if the rest of the team make too many mistakes you are done for. Like it or not being a survivor means playing a team based game.If you want to be independent from other, how about playing KILLER?
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@Orion said:
@Wolf74 said:
@ParalyKoK said:
Again your not answering the previous question. What. is. it. called. then?I would call it "hard camping".
"Proximity camping" is more close area patrolling to me.
That's the most common encountered definition of camping styles.
And anybody using the term "facecampng" for regular camping is outing himself as a noob.You're right. People have too many terms for "types" camping, I'd honestly prefer the umbrella term "camping", with "face camping" for the now-removed exploit and call it a day.
Hard camping
Soft camping
Stealth camping (Insidious, cloak or No-TR-Myers)
Proximity camping (aka patroling )
Gen camping (protecting your objective)
Trap camping (using a trap near a hook)
Range camping Huntress, Billy, Nurse)
Basement camping (using the basement)
Totem camping (protecting Hexes)
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@ParalyKoK said:
Again your not answering the previous question. What. is. it. called. then?I would call it "hard camping".
"Proximity camping" is more close area patrolling to me.
That's the most common encountered definition of camping styles.
And anybody using the term "facecampng" for regular camping is outing himself as a noob. -
Again… "facecamping" made unhooking technically impossible no matter what risk you took.
That was an exploit that got removed.
If you don't like getting camped, fine, but stop using the term "facecamping". -
True "facecamping" made unhooking IMPOSSIBLE. Like real technically not possible.
Not risky, not challenging, not dangerous, not a 100% trade on hooks, but NOT possible by any means. Even when the killer player goes afk.
That was "facecamping". And that does not exist anymore. -
@ParalyKoK said:
So what im hearing is that everyone here is okay with face camping... So your admiting to being a terrible killer then?You sound like a flat earther… you ask us about something that doesn't exist in the first place.^^
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All of the above plus using a victim as bait to lure out more survivor is a totally legit tactic that is perfectly in line with the sourcematerial.
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@Williamz said:
You pretty much described yourself. lol.
I doubt you will find any statement I made supporting your claim.
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@Orion said:
@projecteulogy said:
@Wolf74 said:
@projecteulogy said:
Unlimited self heals? ok.Self-Care has been nerfed into the ground from its original release.
Hahahahahaha
hahahaha reported for trolling
Let me rephrase his point: Self Care has been in the stale Survivor meta since release, and is still the most used perk. Its nerfs were basically irrelevant. I didn't bother replying to you because Wolf74 summarized my thoughts in a fairly ingenious manner, but I see you didn't understand it.
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@sixty4half said:
Wolf74 said:@sixty4half said:
The biggest problem with freddy is that he can't protect anything. Gens, totems, hooks... anything. That's universal and has nothing to do with platform. How do you fix that? You can't unless you rework the dream state entirely. Then hes no longer Freddy.
Luckily he can sneak up on victims and he has a quicker vault and lunge. However, sitting at 15-20fps on consoles makes his lunge less useful, or to put it in other words, requires more planning and practice to use properly.
1st: The biggest problem is healing on the ground by awake victims + bodyshielding from awake victims.
2nd: Simple fix to protect things, give Freddy the ability to grab people when they enter transitionstate.
3rd: He has the same lunge and vault as any other killer. (Prove me wrong if you can)
1- that's what I said. He can't protect anything. Including the 1 situation you decided to call out. However, his problem, not being able to interact, is larger than just that 1 situation.
2- So your solution is to rework how the transition happens. That's kind of what I said. If I'm understanding you correctly, your solution is that victims are considered asleep if a grab action happens but not in any other case. While that might solve some problems it doesn't seem very intuitive.
3- Oh Damn. I've been challenged. Did you guys see him slap me with that gauntlet?
Is that right? I seem to recall he had a longer lunge and faster vault when released. Maybe they changed it and I missed it. At the direction of the devs I played Civilization for 6 months and just came back a few months ago so maybe something changed or maybe I misheard in the first place. Either way, you're so adamant, and I care so little, that I assume you could be right.
- I think it is a different thing.
- He can already grab people from locker, why not just grab em from every activity if they re in dream transition?
- Freddy NEVER had longer lunge or faster vaulting, that's an urban legend.
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@Dragonredking said:
Sure, allow killer to ban 4 survivor so you can't use your leveled up survivor and you have a deal /sSince survivor are just skins (beside ninja claudette) this has to be PERKS.
Let me just ban TWO perks in my lobby and I am fine.
No SC, no SB and I am a happy killer. -
@sixty4half said:
The biggest problem with freddy is that he can't protect anything. Gens, totems, hooks... anything. That's universal and has nothing to do with platform. How do you fix that? You can't unless you rework the dream state entirely. Then hes no longer Freddy.Luckily he can sneak up on victims and he has a quicker vault and lunge. However, sitting at 15-20fps on consoles makes his lunge less useful, or to put it in other words, requires more planning and practice to use properly.
1st: The biggest problem is healing on the ground by awake victims + bodyshielding from awake victims.
2nd: Simple fix to protect things, give Freddy the ability to grab people when they enter transitionstate.
3rd: He has the same lunge and vault as any other killer. (Prove me wrong if you can) -
Wraith:
Enduring, BS, Bamboozle, Noed
Tunnel - Camp - Noed = 2 kills = perfectly balanced killer, right?^^
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@sixty4half said:
We can all agree that the bleed out does exist. It's counted as a death in game. You dont naturally start out in that state. The killer put you in a position where you will die.He stabbed you and you bleed out and die = he killed you
Nooooooooo! He just decided to stop running and stab himself with his own DS.^^
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@Ihatelife said:
If you really need a bloodlust to catch a survivor, than it's very bad with youBecause looping the killer for 3 gens is perfectly fine?
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@Eveline said:
I had some optimal plays as a solo survivor and some of you killers probably think those games are swfs too. I don't think you can actually know it all the time unless you are a God.You do know that killer still can check profiles?
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@projecteulogy said:
Unlimited self heals? ok.Self-Care has been nerfed into the ground from its original release.
Hahahahahaha
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@thesuicidefox said:
@Wolf74 said:
@thesuicidefox said:
@Wolf74 said:
I don't care how they died as long as they are dead. That's a kill in my book.^^Your book is wrong. Game doesn't reward you. It's not a kill. Doesn't matter what you say.
Erm… how about…? … LOL? ^^
LOL dude you have no argument. The game doesn't count it as a kill, it's not a kill.
Your really getting desperate here, huh?
If you bleed out, is there a little skull icon for you?
That means "you are dead".
And if you did not suicide, or die of old age, you have been "killed".
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@thesuicidefox said:
@Wolf74 said:
I don't care how they died as long as they are dead. That's a kill in my book.^^Your book is wrong. Game doesn't reward you. It's not a kill. Doesn't matter what you say.
Erm… how about…? … LOL? ^^
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@saltybutter said:
Patch 2.2.0 blatantly favors Survivors.That can be said for literally EVERY patch.
In 2 years I can remember 2 patches that favored killer. And 1 of them was halfway reversed the next patch. :P -
@Peasant said:
I mean, to be fair when they nerfed Autodidact they increased the first skillcheck penalty which in turn should offer you a few more chances to get the skill checks.And that way nerf Freddy even more?
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@thesuicidefox said:
@Wolf74 said:
@thesuicidefox said:
@Wolf74 said:
Guess what? A "kill" is when a survivor … DIES! mindbowing
Kills = wins
Killer should get judged by their ability to kill and survivor by their ability to survive.
The whole emblem system is just a big smokescreen.
Your pip logic is flawed from the get go, because ranking up is beneficial to survivor, because they get more experiencedand better teammates that will screw up less and make the game easier.
For the killer ranking up makes things worse, since killer are reliant on the survivors mistakes.No a kill is a sacrifice or a mori. By emblem, victory cube, and bloodpoint standards. The game has never rewarded the killer in any way for someone bleeding out. You can make up whatever rules you want, THAT IS A FACT.
Killers are judged by the Entity at the end of the game based on their overall performance. That's what the pip system is for and why they took away victory cube.
Keep lying to yourself. You don't have a leg to stand on.
lol
Someone being dead and not survive is of course not a "kill", he just decided on his own to stop breathing.^^If you slug all 4 surivors and let them bleed out, do you get points for it? Devout? Will you rank up? Answer is no, no, and no, so you can't claim the kill as yours if they bleed out. If you think it is a kill then you are just making ######### up, because the game doesn't reward at all for it.
The reward is in the dead survivor itself.
If you can't see that, it's your problem.
I don't care how they died as long as they are dead. That's a kill in my book.^^
You can complain about it all you like, but it is just about your entitlement to not get slugged. XD -
I feel so lonely with my weird opinion now.^^ [/sarcasm]
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@FrenziedRoach said:
@Wolf74 said:
How do you "work around" decreased speed while UNCLOAKED?
That's basically reduced speed during any regular chase(!?)The new Windstorm only decreases your speed while you are transitioning to uncloaked. So you mitigate it by running Swift Hunt to make your uncloaking time faster. Ergo, you spend less time in the nerfed speed. The Windstorm perk is very clear, its UNCLOAKING speed, not UNCLOAKED. If it's not doing this, there is clearly a bug that needs to be fixed
Phillip is still a 115% killer by the Wiki - and the guy who updates it regularly is usually very thorough about keeping the information updated and accurate.
I hope you are right… I am not research-guy and have to wait for other to confirm that it's a bug.
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@DeadByFlashlight said:
we only need 20% killers and 80% survivors, so its ok that killer is less fun to playThat is a terrible way of thinking about gameplay.
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I would really like to see the timer increased.
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@Acromio said:
He's one of the worst killers in the game. If you're okay with him being a meme...Since most people on the forum claim him to be OP, I thought the ask for a "rework" would be a demand to nerf him.
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@LRGamer said:
BTW I’m a Killer Main so i’m Not some Survivor Main who wants his Perk to be buffed
and Autodidact needs a Buff
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@Acromio said:
- Doctor (full character rework)
Hell no!
I like him the way he is. Nothing wrong with him. -
@MegMain98 said:
You do know I’m a Myers main right? His add-ons are extremely powerful, thing is that you gotta put in the effort in the match to get use out of his add-ons. It’s not going to just be GIVEN to you. Although he does somewhat struggle in SWF groups. Using an infinite Tier 3 can be very helpful if you can pair it with J. Myers Memorial.
I don’t like Nurse because her fatigue is annoying and the blinks are wonky on PS4. Not to mention she is slow as a slug.
Billy is a lot easier to use, but he’s just not my favorite. Certainly better than Leatherface however.
The “lesser killers” I like are Freddy and Hag. Is Spirit considered a weak killer? Because I use her pretty frequently as well. She’s definitely climbed up my killer list.
Thx that you try to stay reasonable.
And no, I don't know that you are a "Myers main", by the post I read from you so far, I was expecting you to not play killer at all and that you are most likely a survivor main anyway. :P
Maybe this is a PC vs console issue, because you play on PS4.
Some people say that certain killer are better/worse to play on console and that the gameexperience with these killers can differ a lot depending on where you are playing.
Some people even say it is about the skill and competitive playerbase that cause the differences.
I play PC only, so I can't judge it.
Most people I heard consider Spirit weak, especially versus better player.
Same is true for Freddy... he is a great noobstomper but sucks versus high ranks. -
@MegMain98 said:
@Wolf74 said:
@MegMain98 said:
@Wolf74 said:
Freddy ofc sucks bad and needs some rework.
Trapper still sucks even after his buffs.
LF is really in need of buffs, especially since they nerfed all his add ons for no reason.
Myers is pretty cool, but has some lackluster add ons with to harsh drawbacks.
I personally think that Pig kinda sucks, but other people perform really well with her. shrugMost things are not just about specific reworks, but general killerbuffs that are needed.
Myers is a definite top tier killer and balanced nicely. His add-ons have big drawbacks because they are pretty brutal on survivors. I mean having the option of taking a survivor out of the game in one move without hooking is pretty damn nice. He is the only killer who can do that. That’s the reason why it takes Myers so long to get to EW3 with a Tombstone. He won’t be getting to EW3 anytime soon unless survivors literally let him. Maybe the “tremendously” can be knocked down to “considerably” but it’s a very powerful add-on regardless.
Ok, calling Myers top tier says more about your skill level of play than about the balance of killer.
It’s kind of obvious that he is one of the top tier killers. Nobody is gonna argue about Nurse/Billy being #1 and #2. The rest are debatable.
Myers is one of the most balanced killers in the game. Of course if you’re trash with his ability you aren’t gonna do great. I’m GOD AWFUL with the Nurse but I’m not saying “Nurse is unbalanced and a trash killer”.
Myers is mid tier at best. Only survivor player call him balanced, because they have an easy time against him.
My bad is, I am not good with the top killer. I hate playing the Nurse and her fatigue makes me sick.
And I have those uncontrollable flicks with Billys chainsaw, that other seem to get under control, but unfortunatly not me.So I am stuck playing the lesser balanced killer.
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@Williamz said:
@Wolf74 said:
@only1biggs said:
@Wolf74 said:
@only1biggs said:
@Wolf74 said:
@only1biggs said:
The nerf was a good thing, as no killer should be rewarded for bad plays with a speed boost.And how about the survivor abusing broken loop spots?
They get rewarded for exploiting bad map RNG?True, but what's more common? A survivor knowing these spots and being able to use them in such a manner, or a bad killer not knowing how to chase correctly?
I'll tell you. It's the bad killer.
You intentionally twist things upside down I guess, huh?
Please don't insult my intelligence here… survivor abuse these all well known spots all the time from mid to high ranks.Twist things? Not at all.
All the time huh? Are you sure about that? Sounds to me like you need your intelligence to be insulted if you actually believe that.
I'm done arguing with you… no point in it. I am pretty sure, you know better, but you would never admit it to keep pushing your agenda.
But I will keep speaking up if you spit more nonsense.
Just feel free to ignore my postings, because I don't talk to you, but to those reading your crap and I try to prevent them from believing your fairy tales.hushthe easter bunny isn't realhush
Wolf, you argue with everyone on these forums.
Only with those that try to spread their biased agendas and do not care for balance at all.
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@LRGamer said:
Wolf74 said:@LRGamer said:
Wolf74 said:
@LRGamer said: please Buff Autodidact Make it increase the Chance for Skillchecks and while you do so Fix Deliverance Just no. Further improving any healing abilities at this point would throw off the balance even more. Healing is already way to easy. They increase the Time it takes already
but You would waste A Perk Slot for nothing
The time it takes for what?
They announced that they will increase the tyme it takes to heal up
they want to give Survivors more objectivesOh yea… they announce a lot… they also announced the one time heal and that came…? Never?
Nerfs to survivor often get announced and never happen (or get reversed asap). -
@MegMain98 said:
@Wolf74 said:
Freddy ofc sucks bad and needs some rework.
Trapper still sucks even after his buffs.
LF is really in need of buffs, especially since they nerfed all his add ons for no reason.
Myers is pretty cool, but has some lackluster add ons with to harsh drawbacks.
I personally think that Pig kinda sucks, but other people perform really well with her. shrugMost things are not just about specific reworks, but general killerbuffs that are needed.
Myers is a definite top tier killer and balanced nicely. His add-ons have big drawbacks because they are pretty brutal on survivors. I mean having the option of taking a survivor out of the game in one move without hooking is pretty damn nice. He is the only killer who can do that. That’s the reason why it takes Myers so long to get to EW3 with a Tombstone. He won’t be getting to EW3 anytime soon unless survivors literally let him. Maybe the “tremendously” can be knocked down to “considerably” but it’s a very powerful add-on regardless.
Ok, calling Myers top tier says more about your skill level of play than about the balance of killer.
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@powerbats said:
@Wolf74 said:
You know what is childish?
Yes the constant non stop whining and excuses from certain people on both sides that can't have it be there way all the time.
Someone who insist other on playing rigged games.
So how's it rigged again, oh wait it's not rigged and that Straw Man fell as flat on it's face as the flat earth theory.
SWF on voice com is unbalanced and borderline cheating.
You can keep whining about it all you want, it won't ever be called cheating unless and until the devs say it is, so get over it and stop blaming that for your gameplay.
Why should I accept it as a given?
Because that's the reality, just because you don't like it doesn't change the fact that's it's reality.
Every buff for killer the people complain about "but that would ruin the game for solo survivor", but that would only be 30% of the player… choose one, you can't have both.
So now it's well it'll ruin it for solo survivor choose well then if the majority says swf which is the majority of the player base then what? Does that mean you'll stop complaining finally since you can't have it both ways. We both know the answer to that one, the game could be completely killer balanced and you'd still complain.
If you want to recite Devs, do it completely, 70% of all lobbies include SWF of some kind, but only 50% of all survivor join the lobby via the Play with friends option; including those that join solo (using the play with friends button out of habit or to avoid lobby bugs).
You're a broken record since I've stated that 70% number quite often and in response to you, yet now you conveniently forget that fact. But it doesn't matter if it was 90% solo, you'd still complain about it.
So your numbers are wrong, or better said "twisted" to support your point, which they hardly do.
So wait now my numbers are wrong yet you had no problem when they supported you just earlier in this very same post. You just twisted yourself into one very convoluted knot of doublespeak in just a short bit of a post.
Since it's obvious you'll go to any lengths to distort we can safely assume you're here for nothing else but to troll.
That is basically the online version of disrespectfully interrupting someone while he is talking.
But anyway, you still keep twisting things and this will continue with you.
I will continue speaking up against your nonsense, so that other people can read different opinions and make their own decision which point of view they want to agree on, but I won't let myself sucked into a flamewar with you. -
@powerbats said:
@Wolf74 said:
@Eveline said:
Why am I dodged then? I am always solo. Oh yeah because the killer suspects I may be an swf. Do you realise how ridiculous this is?YOU are solo... but did you check the rest of your team?
Are they 3 SWF?
Did your team sport like 2+ toolboxes or flashlights?
Did they have legacy clothing? Bright clothing?
Toxic names? Twitch or YouTube tags in their name?4 strangers = 30%
2 friends + 2 strangers = 34.1%
2 friends + 2 friends = 9.5%
3 friends + 1 stranger = 17.9%
4 friends = 8.5%I really wish killers would stop using the 3 and 4 man swf as an excuse to lobby dodge, it's childish. You know as well as I do that if you get a swf indicator you'll just dodge even more.
If you they put in a non swf queue then you should be forced to play that queue only then that way you can't dodge swf anymore and those that have no problem facing them can get lobbies quicker.
But if there's only 30% solo lobbies only then your wait times are going to be atrocious.
You know what is childish?
Someone who insist other on playing rigged games.
SWF on voice com is unbalanced and borderline cheating.
Why should I accept it as a given?
Every buff for killer the people complain about "but that would ruin the game for solo survivor", but that would only be 30% of the player… choose one, you can't have both.If you want to recite Devs, do it completely, 70% of all lobbies include SWF of some kind, but only 50% of all survivor join the lobby via the Play with friends option; including those that join solo (using the play with friends button out of habit or to avoid lobby bugs).
So your numbers are wrong, or better said "twisted" to support your point, which they hardly do. -
@Eveline said:
Why am I dodged then? I am always solo. Oh yeah because the killer suspects I may be an swf. Do you realise how ridiculous this is?YOU are solo... but did you check the rest of your team?
Are they 3 SWF?
Did your team sport like 2+ toolboxes or flashlights?
Did they have legacy clothing? Bright clothing?
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@LRGamer said:
Wolf74 said:@LRGamer said:
please Buff Autodidact
Make it increase the Chance for Skillchecks
and while you do so Fix Deliverance
Just no. Further improving any healing abilities at this point would throw off the balance even more.
Healing is already way to easy.
They increase the Time it takes already
but You would waste A Perk Slot for nothingThe time it takes for what?
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@Eveline said:
Make lobby hidden and punish dc with immediate de-ranking similar to that that happens monthly or put a timer or some kind of penalty. That includes survivors to.Problem solved.
Yea sure… I am totally ok with facing 3+ SWF, 2+ toolboxes, 2+ flashlights…
Why should I get forced to face that crap?
Oh wait… yea, killer are excluded from "everyone deserves to have FUN". -
lol
Yea, sure, why not force the killer to adapt instead of telling the survivor to not do stupid unhooks instead.
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@blue4zion said:
@Wolf74 said:
@blue4zion said:
This was completely necessary because it's quite unfair to be downed again before you even get a chance to dodge/escape.Why is it "unfair" if your teammates do bad plays?
I think it is unfair to rob the killer of his kills.Right I forget it's fair to be knocked down without a chance, and it's fair to be punished because of your teammates
Just wait an extra second before swinging, seriously I don't get why people are having such a problem with this.
How is that crap the killers fault?
Why should the killer get punished for bad plays by your mate?
Just because you feel entitled?
Serious, comments like that make me hate survivor player and go tryhard whenever I can. -
@blue4zion said:
This was completely necessary because it's quite unfair to be downed again before you even get a chance to dodge/escape.Why is it "unfair" if your teammates do bad plays?
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@LightsOut88 said:
Wolf74 said:@LightsOut88 said:
Personally I have played the map 3 times, all 3 times as Freddy. I got two 4 mans and a 3 man w hatch escape. Its a small map with not many places to run to so, imo it is balanced towards the killer. Then again i have yet to play it as survivor but I have watched a few struggle in the new setting.
At what rank?
Sounds like noobstomping.
Rank 5 my man! I was equally as suprised but than again I main freddy and have never had problems 4 manning even at rank 3 which is the farthest Ive come. If i wasnt using my main it probably would have been different.
If you main Freddy you are "special" anyway.^^
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@LightsOut88 said:
Personally I have played the map 3 times, all 3 times as Freddy. I got two 4 mans and a 3 man w hatch escape. Its a small map with not many places to run to so, imo it is balanced towards the killer. Then again i have yet to play it as survivor but I have watched a few struggle in the new setting.At what rank?
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Freddy ofc sucks bad and needs some rework.
Trapper still sucks even after his buffs.
LF is really in need of buffs, especially since they nerfed all his add ons for no reason.
Myers is pretty cool, but has some lackluster add ons with to harsh drawbacks.
I personally think that Pig kinda sucks, but other people perform really well with her. shrugMost things are not just about specific reworks, but general killerbuffs that are needed.
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On most killer I switch my loadout, only on Doc my loadout is pretty stiff.
-Distressing
-Unnerving Presence
-Overcharge
-Nurse Calling
-Calm and Order
Actually I ran this loadout before it became meta on him and never changed it.^^
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SELF CARE all the way. Because it is a force multiplier to the rest.
SB and DS would be way less annoying if they couldn't get healed so easy.