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@Attackfrog said:
DBD Facts:SWF is not balanced for this game. I would like to hear a developer explain that it is.
The rest of the mechanics/perks/add-ons simply come down to competitive play.
I don't play survivor often but when I do, I don't see nearly as much name calling , death threatening and cursing coming from the killer side.
It always comes from survivors that got killed (or a swf of one that got killed)....be it one or four k.
If there is a 4k, I can count on name calling and post chat harassment and I would bet none of those folks would dare say those things to my (or anyone's) face irl
The killers are just as bad as the survivors. Every game I'm getting tunneled and I'm legit stuck at rank 11 because I can't have a fair game. I survive sometimes but it still pisses me off. Killers are just as toxic as survivors when they get outplayed and you're obviously a killer main acting like you play survivor. As killer, if I get outplayed a few times I'm not going to facecamp and tunnel them. Face is the killers are just as toxic as survivors to solo survivors more often than the SWF groups. That's why I like truetalent, he ain't toxic at all and he's a respectable killer. I wish killers and survivors acted more like him but there's people like Ochido who are just making people worse. Then there's players like you on both sides who constantly lie about playing both sides and say that there's no toxic survivors. Learn to loop effectively and you'll see what killers can be like. Some killers are nice though I'll admit I've faced a few Bubbas of all killers who get demolished by me but wont bother camping me because they want survivors to have good experiences and more fun. So go actually learn survivor and you'll see. I learnt killer (nurse and hag the two strongest) and now I've started to understand what the killers faced. Now without the double SB and the Pallet teleporting glitch thing, and heck even that cursed window change I can see no nerfs needed to survivors even the healing nerfs were enough. We just need the killers who aren't Nurse, Hag, Spirit or Billy to get buffed to a good level. Btw i agree with SWF being too OP but the devs cant nerf it cause some people just want to have fun and laughs with their friends.
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@Cetren said:
My bald, Dwight friend, when you are bald Dwight, you are not merely bald and Dwight... you are Bald Dwight!The fuh?
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How could they >:O. Rude monsters.
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@GodDamn_Angela said:
@chococri said:
Oh and when we are going to the Institute I just know It's Michael with EW1 wallhack.I got this three games in a row.
To counter it, go into an open area where you know if hes after u and pallet loop him because in EW1 he's very very slow.
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@Parity said:
Yeah. It's a dead content game due to killers having way too much power over survivors. The killers are generally bad at the game, so they come on Twitter, forums, Reddit etc. and complain about the killers not being up to their standards.To be fair, killers were very weak a few months back. They're pretty strong now tho.
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@The_Crusader said:
Yay. Just got purposefully farmed by a Claudette. As always.They really need to put a stop to this #########. It's toxic behaviour and the Claudettes do it on purpose.
You're ######### kidding me. I am a Claudette main u tool. I dont farm ######### I wait for the killer to ######### off. Why u saying all Claudettes are toxic when its just a few of them. Lots of Claudettes I've met are not toxic. And yes that includes bloody Claudettes.
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@Dabrownman1812 said:
I understand the anger, event cosmetics should just be event cosmetics. It's evident they want money since you can buy event cosmetics and you can buy them after event is over. This alone shows that this is a money thing. I have no problem with it being split to killer and survivor since all other events were split and just dont gens were braindead and easy. Now, you actually have to earn it.You don't? I got my first piece in 10 matches since maps are op for this event. Back when u had to do gens, I found it harder to get the cosmetic...
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One time there was this Billy on xbox that I looped, he was so frail and not made for the high ranks. I had to let him kill me I looped him really bad and he was geniunely trying to win. I also offered up a teammate by getting him to come too the Billy was happy about it.
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@CheersTC said:
Ok, occasionally I will let the killer kill me, on one condition.If they message me (saying I can get hatch), or just don't hit me when they get right behind me, I instead run to a hook and point at it. I'm even high rank, but that brings up my question.
Do you ever do it, and if yes, at what rank?
Me: Rank 3 and yes I do.
As long as I'm not getting my arse tunneled or facecamped and if they dont do that and get no kills, then sure yeah. If they piss me off in any way I'll just go without looking back at them. If they are good and get genrushed then I really just let them get me since it's sad. Same concept when I play Nurse, if the last guy is good, I'll let him get the hatch or do the last gen(s) and escape.
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@SadonicShadow said:
I still have lots of fun playing Solo Survivor. I usually SWF with my friends but i notice i perform ALOT better when i am Solo but that is just me.Ẁe've found the killer main in disguise guys. Just kidding dont roast me but on a serious note, solo survivor isn't fun anymore without the old vaulting and double exhaustion SWF is fun since u know you have a chance .-.
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@Gurpsmeister said:
So just some background. I'm a survivor main, yes I claudette and yes I'll lick bricks to hide sometimes! What I try to not do is but dance and taunt a killer though and I especially hate the idea of snapping off against a killer at the end of a game. If he got me, good match! HOpefully I learn and do better next time. If I got away, also good match!Tonight I've been trying killer out and wow, I now understand what Killers mean by survivors ruin games. We're awful. I can't imagine wanting to keep playing this game as a killer. It has nothing to do with being looped or juked, I suck as a killer and expect it. What I mean is at the end in the chat, the sheer salt when someone dies or taunts, EZ you suck etc etc.
We're just awful.
Once you improve send it back, I play both and back when I bashed dbd on xbox, I played killer a lot and got salt and bm from a lot of games. Nowadays I just eat the salt and if I catch someone in under 20 seconds as Wraith which happens on xbox a lot since he's so underused nobody knows how to counter his new buff. I nod at them for a while, on PC I play Nurse, I bm a lot too. Both sides are so toxic that if ur nice on one, be toxic on the other. I'm non toxic at survivor (still get tunnelled all game), and very toxic as killer since nobody is ever non toxic to me when I'm killer. If there's a team who isn't toxic, I let the last guy go. If they even teabag once I will just straight up dominate. On xbox if I see a flashlight I bring a mori. Take the abuse and try not to let it get to u otherwise you'll never improve.
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@HP150 said:
What the devs have called "rework" so far have never completely changed the killer's power (made some addons part of base kit for Doctor and Wraith, took away the self-stun after teleporting for Hag).But man, I gotta tell ya, Freddy's power feels nothing like Freddy. The Freddy I knew was a tormenting, immaterial god in his own dream realm, warping around, phasing through walls, and shape shifting. The only time he ran in a direct line to his victims is when he was screwing with them right before he went in for the kill in some elaborate, trickster manner. In that sense, Spirit and Nurse both play more like what I'd expect Freddy to play like.
I won't even get started on Amanda (her traps should be her primary means of killing, she's never even used the dumb retractable blade in the movies) but between Freddy, Myers, and Leatherface, it seems like his gameplan would be the least likely to be "run at you until I'm in range for a mouse 1 attack" yet that's exactly what he does in this game.
TL;DR - Let Freddy briefly phase through a wall.
They'll probaby not make him better than Nurse like he used to be.
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@The_Crusader said:
Mine would have to be The Pig. I really hate playing against her the most.Every game is either...
1) They crouch and camp the hook
2) They throw the game just to tunnel the hell out of whoever they've put the RBT on.
Man, I find Pig players more toxic than even the t-bagging P3 claudettes with Decisive and purple flashlight.
Nurse.
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@Orion said:
@Poweas said:
@AyDoggie said:
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@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
@Orion said:
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@RSB said:
All day everyday? I have 30/30 on survivor and 21/30 on killer lolim sorry that you are able to play this game almost all day and still get enough for them but for people like me who play by myself always get ignored when trying to get the nectar and end up dying when the killer finds me and i lost progress
It's been two days. If he has almost completed everything, then your claim that you need to play all day every day for the entire event is false, and the problem lies with you.
theres a defrence between xbox and pc. also screw off orion
The difference is, that Xbox is laggier and much less toxic, I've played on both and thats what I found out. Ps4 tho, that is another thing it's toxic as hell and on top of that most the players on ps4 can't loop a killer for too long. Some are uncatchable but most aren't
Haha, you say Xbox is less toxic? I can't even go one game without someone messaging me saying how much of a crap killer I am for tunneling every player in the game and can't even go one game without a proxy camping or face camping killer. You know how many people I reported on Xbox after they straight out started cursing at me and how many times I got a message from Xbox saying they took action on my complaint? So many times, I lost count. I had one person started calling me the N word after a game because he lost. I play mostly PC and Xbox DBD but I did play a few games on PS4 when DBD was free and I found it to be a little bit less toxic than Xbox but overall Xbox has a toxicity problem for all their games.
On pc I get tunneled like mad and I get facecamped constantly it's less toxic when ur killer but way more toxic when ur survivor I get bm every game, on Xbox killers could take loops but these killers on PC get really butthurt rank 11 now btw. There's too much toxic killers on PC. On xbox ill admit as killer its pretty hard to play since people are toxic as hell to you and salt u up. I also main PC now too ^^
Chasing is not toxic. Don't get found and you won't get chased.
Urban evasion and iron will time ^^
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@CornChip said:
Don't loop or use pallets.. Killers hate it.. I've been coming to a complete standstill when the killer finds me every time as looping is toxic.. I haven't escaped since I started doing it and i'm having less fun playing the game. Overall though I think the killer is having more fun and being stressed out less so that's cool.Yh sad life.
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@Attackfrog said:
Lol could be that the killer was just being a killer and you were easiest to catch. Or maybe he was do I g a daily (I do all sorts of weird sh!t when I am after my dailies).Events are weird because sometimes you don't know if they want to farm or play. And if they start out farming but don't let you get your hooks too...well that is just sh!ttty and maybe he had that happen a few too many times and was taking it out on you.
Unless someone violates ToS or hacks....there is no "wrong" way to play, like it or not.
When im the easiest to catch, I'm normally surviving believe it or not. I'm normally one of the harder ones since most my gametime from xbox was into survivor so I'm pretty good at looping and my chases are always 2-3 gens unless its a Nurse. My teammates get caught in under 20 seconds lol.
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@Dragonredking said:
@Poweas said:
@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
@Orion said:
@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
@RSB said:
All day everyday? I have 30/30 on survivor and 21/30 on killer lolim sorry that you are able to play this game almost all day and still get enough for them but for people like me who play by myself always get ignored when trying to get the nectar and end up dying when the killer finds me and i lost progress
It's been two days. If he has almost completed everything, then your claim that you need to play all day every day for the entire event is false, and the problem lies with you.
theres a defrence between xbox and pc. also screw off orion
The difference is, that Xbox is laggier and much less toxic, I've played on both and thats what I found out. Ps4 tho, that is another thing it's toxic as hell and on top of that most the players on ps4 can't loop a killer for too long. Some are uncatchable but most aren't
Less toxic?
Last year a lot of people complained that survivor where [BAD WORD] up there XBL rep because they where salty.
You can literaly see when someone started playing killer in dbd just by looking at his rep.
Back when this happened you could literaly get blocked from playing some game online if your rep was to low.Less toxic for survivor. For killer PC is better. For survivor, you just get constant tunneling and bm cause ur able to run them for a while. Rank 11 btw. Rarely have games where I manage to play seriously since most the game I got a killer on me lol.
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@AyDoggie said:
@Poweas said:
@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
@Orion said:
@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
@RSB said:
All day everyday? I have 30/30 on survivor and 21/30 on killer lolim sorry that you are able to play this game almost all day and still get enough for them but for people like me who play by myself always get ignored when trying to get the nectar and end up dying when the killer finds me and i lost progress
It's been two days. If he has almost completed everything, then your claim that you need to play all day every day for the entire event is false, and the problem lies with you.
theres a defrence between xbox and pc. also screw off orion
The difference is, that Xbox is laggier and much less toxic, I've played on both and thats what I found out. Ps4 tho, that is another thing it's toxic as hell and on top of that most the players on ps4 can't loop a killer for too long. Some are uncatchable but most aren't
Haha, you say Xbox is less toxic? I can't even go one game without someone messaging me saying how much of a crap killer I am for tunneling every player in the game and can't even go one game without a proxy camping or face camping killer. You know how many people I reported on Xbox after they straight out started cursing at me and how many times I got a message from Xbox saying they took action on my complaint? So many times, I lost count. I had one person started calling me the N word after a game because he lost. I play mostly PC and Xbox DBD but I did play a few games on PS4 when DBD was free and I found it to be a little bit less toxic than Xbox but overall Xbox has a toxicity problem for all their games.
On pc I get tunneled like mad and I get facecamped constantly it's less toxic when ur killer but way more toxic when ur survivor I get bm every game, on Xbox killers could take loops but these killers on PC get really butthurt rank 11 now btw. There's too much toxic killers on PC. On xbox ill admit as killer its pretty hard to play since people are toxic as hell to you and salt u up. I also main PC now too ^^
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@MegMain98 said:
@LRGamer said:
MegMain98 said:@Wolf74 said:
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@Wolf74 said:
S+ Nurse
S Billy
A Huntress, Hag, Clown, Doc, Spirit
B Wraith, Pig, Myers
C Freddy, Leatherface, Trapper
OP pretty much overrates most killer.
The ONLY one on the A tier list that is on Myers level is Huntress. Doctor is pretty weak. His ability doesn’t really help him in a chase, Doctor is the most overrated killer in the game honestly. Other than that I’d switch Myers and Doctor but your list is pretty accurate.
It might be just my personal preference, because I perform pretty well with Doc. And the main reason for it is that he can actually affect multiple targets with his aura.
Something most other killer are lacking..
My main issue is always how can I get the other of the gens while I chase ONE?
Doc has a solution for that.
Doctor is good when it comes to map pressure if it is a smaller map (Game, Hospital, Yamaoka) and you pair it with Distressing and Unnerving. His ability just doesn’t cut it for me, he is just too weak at loops.
It’s also a preference when it comes to Myers with me. I love the extended lunge of EW III and his ability to sneak up on survivors in the beginning with his smaller terror radius. I’d take Myers, Spirit, and Pig over Doctor.
I even preform well with Freddy believe it or not.
I perform well with everyone but I like Michael because of the Mindgames.
The Doctor however actually can somewhat manipulate a Chase.
Well i agree he is pretty weak and the time it takes to switch modes should be decreased but he is not overrated.
That Title belongs to the HuntressDoctor can’t cut off loops but the Huntress can and that is one thing she holds over Doctor. A good Huntress is not going to be looped. Not to mention she can have a one hit down with hatchets which cannot be countered while Doctor’s entire ability can be somewhat countered by Calm Spirit. I’ve run Calm Spirit and had very little issues with Doctor finding me. It’s not a perfect counter but it’s a strong counter.
Huntress isn’t very loopable and can have an insta-down. Her ability helps her in a chase. Doctor isn’t good in a chase and is easily loopable. A Huntress who doesn’t know how to effectively use hatchets or without hatchets however is going to be bullied which is the reason I don’t play her because I’m not good with long range attacks. I’m personally better with Doctor but Huntress has a higher potential.
You say that but I abuse the Huntress in any loop all you gotta do is keep running when she charged her hatchet I normally loop her 6-7 times before I drop the pallet lol she's easier to counter then Doctor. She's pretty hard to beat on open maps though I'll admit that but if ur at a pallet ur fine.
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@DeadByFlashlight said:
First of all, DBD is rated 18+
Dont claim stuff before you tried it, even on PC nurse is quite hard to master, but I agree that with controller aim its just outrageous.
Nurse wont be buffed either because she is already the strongest killer and every killer has to switch to her to deal with "those SWF".One advice for you on console: change sensitivity such that you can swing aroudn faster, that should help you a lot
On PC she's relatively straight forward I switched from xbox to PC and I agree that on console she's hardest killer by a mile, on PC I think she's one of the easier ones in my opinion. Pls don't roast me
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@The_Crusader said:
Because people hate looping, it's really so so boring for the killer .Also bald dwights do it often and are usually good at it.When I'm killer I play nurse and hag Btw, looping is just an advantage to me, I need them to loop me to catch them quicker also I am a Claudette main I'm just leveling Dwight so I can get his teachable then I'm going to be playing as Claudette again.
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@Poweas said:
@Master said:
@Poweas said:
@Master said:
@Poweas said:
I've been getting tunneled and Bm'd/sandbagged all day. On PC I'm rank 11 and I've been getting bm and tunneled all day and idek why. I pallet loop and never bm or teabag because I am nice in that sense but these killers get window and pallet looped and tunnel my a$$ down and they even facecamp me idek why. Is it because I'm a bald dwight or are they just salty for getting ran around. One said I teabagged him but I didnt do anything. Please tell me what the f0ck these killers are doing. My games are just really boring rn and then on the killer side, I'm winning like mad. This is in killers because they might understand. If this keeps on going I might as well bring D strike which I really dont want to bring but I might because otherwise, I'll have no chance. Someone pls tell me what I'm doing.Probably the killer just wanted to farm and you didnt understand, so he killed you instead
They didnt want to farm tho. Ik that because they downed people in my team before finding me. No chance they wanted to farm they are just playing like scum from salt.
Why would they need to find you before the agree to farm?
I just tunneled the ######### out of a survivor because he was the last event hook I needed. For some reason he didnt use his brain and realized that me and the other 3 were farming or maybe he didnt want to farm.
Thats why I played the game as intended with him, tunneled him and camped him afterwards while the others did gens and left
(I mean, I dont wanna force him into farming, thats actually bannable btw)Wasn't me if that's what ur thinking lol
Also when I was watching to see how my teammates did against him (Btw nobody ran these killers for more than 30 seconds at most) he did kill them but there was no bm or tunneling I don't understand killers anymore lol
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@Master said:
@Poweas said:
@Master said:
@Poweas said:
I've been getting tunneled and Bm'd/sandbagged all day. On PC I'm rank 11 and I've been getting bm and tunneled all day and idek why. I pallet loop and never bm or teabag because I am nice in that sense but these killers get window and pallet looped and tunnel my a$$ down and they even facecamp me idek why. Is it because I'm a bald dwight or are they just salty for getting ran around. One said I teabagged him but I didnt do anything. Please tell me what the f0ck these killers are doing. My games are just really boring rn and then on the killer side, I'm winning like mad. This is in killers because they might understand. If this keeps on going I might as well bring D strike which I really dont want to bring but I might because otherwise, I'll have no chance. Someone pls tell me what I'm doing.Probably the killer just wanted to farm and you didnt understand, so he killed you instead
They didnt want to farm tho. Ik that because they downed people in my team before finding me. No chance they wanted to farm they are just playing like scum from salt.
Why would they need to find you before the agree to farm?
I just tunneled the ######### out of a survivor because he was the last event hook I needed. For some reason he didnt use his brain and realized that me and the other 3 were farming or maybe he didnt want to farm.
Thats why I played the game as intended with him, tunneled him and camped him afterwards while the others did gens and left
(I mean, I dont wanna force him into farming, thats actually bannable btw)Wasn't me if that's what ur thinking lol
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@Rebel_Raven said:
Bald Dwight. Definitely Bald Dwight. He has a bad rep as trouble like Jakes, apparently.
If you've kept them running long enough, that might be it. If you seem like too much trouble to be allowed to live, the killer is more inclined to, well, not let you live.Kinda irked I lost almost an entire section of nectar (Apparently the lines are the safety points, and anything below that is lost) because a killer couldn't wait until I was done harvesting, I got unsafe hooked, healed some, and well, that was it.
I mean come -on-, it's not like I can get a head start when you chase me after. I swear a lot of killers have had a hook up their butts lately.Ikr something needs to be done about it .-.
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@Master said:
@Poweas said:
I've been getting tunneled and Bm'd/sandbagged all day. On PC I'm rank 11 and I've been getting bm and tunneled all day and idek why. I pallet loop and never bm or teabag because I am nice in that sense but these killers get window and pallet looped and tunnel my a$$ down and they even facecamp me idek why. Is it because I'm a bald dwight or are they just salty for getting ran around. One said I teabagged him but I didnt do anything. Please tell me what the f0ck these killers are doing. My games are just really boring rn and then on the killer side, I'm winning like mad. This is in killers because they might understand. If this keeps on going I might as well bring D strike which I really dont want to bring but I might because otherwise, I'll have no chance. Someone pls tell me what I'm doing.Probably the killer just wanted to farm and you didnt understand, so he killed you instead
They didnt want to farm tho. Ik that because they downed people in my team before finding me. No chance they wanted to farm they are just playing like scum from salt.
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@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
@Orion said:
@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
@RSB said:
All day everyday? I have 30/30 on survivor and 21/30 on killer lolim sorry that you are able to play this game almost all day and still get enough for them but for people like me who play by myself always get ignored when trying to get the nectar and end up dying when the killer finds me and i lost progress
It's been two days. If he has almost completed everything, then your claim that you need to play all day every day for the entire event is false, and the problem lies with you.
theres a defrence between xbox and pc. also screw off orion
The difference is, that Xbox is laggier and much less toxic, I've played on both and thats what I found out. Ps4 tho, that is another thing it's toxic as hell and on top of that most the players on ps4 can't loop a killer for too long. Some are uncatchable but most aren't
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@Zarathos said:
Poweas said:@Zarathos said:
@Poweas said:
@MegMain98 said:
@Zarathos said:
MegMain98 said:
@Orion said:
@Poweas said:
@TigerKirby215 said:
"Is Nurse a high skill cap killer?" He asked in the Survivors discussions.
Survivors tend to give more solid answers
I'm tearing up from laughter.
You do know that not all survivor mains are entitled douches right? Some actually try and help others out.
That is true but all the duuuds out there are really loud and tend to speak over sensible survivour players so often survivour representation tends to be really bad. Killers have to be good at dealing with loss and stress to reach the top so it tends to humble killer players fast.
Its also a society thing we feel bad for the underdog even though in this case their mass murdering monsters XD. When we see survivours complain its like watching the advantaged person complain they broke a nail. Often there problem can actually be serious and reasonable but we tend to veer to one side and stick in that camp because opening your mind to other opinions requires effort and empathy. I don't think dbd was designed to appeal to that demographic of people.
I guess I never feel bad for the killer because my friend group doesn’t BM the killer. I rarely if ever run into lobbies where the survivors are being entitled bullies. I run into more killers who get salty because a survivor actually knows how to use flashlights and pallets to their advantage. Then they wind up camping or coming back with NOED the proceed to call all the survivors trash. Just from my own experience. I never feel bad for killers, don’t have a reason to.
Not saying that survivors are always friendly because they certainly are not. I’ve run into my fair share of entitled survivors while playing killer.
The killers are beginning to become more entitled nowadays, and survivors don't say much about it anymore since the devs never listen for example the windows nerf is completely unnecessary and yet the killers are begging for it. There's no more nerf needed to survivors except for the perks. If the devs add this window change I may as well become a killer main
Tell us how you do i guarantee it is not as easy as it looks XD. In all honesty everyone is not reading the patch notes fully. We have nerfs for both sides. Killers like trapper have trap buffering now. Huntress had her windups reduced, survivors get invincibility frames after unhook exhaustion replenishes immediately on being hooked.
Everyone gives the devs ######### for supporting one side but its utter nonsense both killer and survivor is changing and people like you make it hard to take your complaints seriously. Survivors are complaining so are killers we don't want balance As players we want a constantly changing horror game. Is killer to strong yes and no. For swf groups killer is still too weak, for solo players killers are way too powerful. The devs made the decision to improve the solo survivor experience by giving the players some of the tools that make swf strong obsession can now be seen chased allowing players to focus on rushing gens for instance. Honestly I blame swf for the high power level of killers it should be relegated for casual play only not ranked. Something has to give either survivors have to play with swf level tools and killers continue to get buffs or swf has to be limited as the difference between these groups of players is too massive.
Killer is still pretty easy I've been improving on Nurse a lot and got Shadowborn, Sloppy butcher, BBQ and chilli and a Nurses calling on her. Games are pretty fun and I feel the control. The healing nerf is dirty lol and with sloppy butcher it's really good. I haven't gave upon survivor and I've regained my skill lol. I was maybe a little mad about the windows nerf except for removing the mindgames to the shack it's really not that bad and easier for killer. The game is in a good state I'd buff Vigil to recover exhaustion while running for 60 secs since that'll be a little more fun for survivor but apart from that the new buffs are fun for both sides. Solo survivor btw.
Vigil should be reworked but exhaustion recharge while running invalidates the nerf made. As long as sprint burst exist vigil should never recharge while running. Alternatively buff all the other exhaustion perks so they can be regained whilst running call it fatigued instead. But increase the recharge timer to 60/70/80. That way vigil dosent reduce the perks timer dramatically.
As for sloppy butcher healing is hard but now more then ever will survivours need to have a dedicated healer or two. People need to start running autodidact or "well make it" to counter the healing nerf. DBD needs to look at giving survivours a means to communicate the role they will be playing medic, distration, gen repair etc.
Botany knowledge is the best counter returns it back to normal sloppy butcher or not.
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@Zarathos said:
@Poweas said:
@MegMain98 said:
@Zarathos said:
MegMain98 said:@Orion said:
@Poweas said:
@TigerKirby215 said:
"Is Nurse a high skill cap killer?" He asked in the Survivors discussions.
Survivors tend to give more solid answers
I'm tearing up from laughter.
You do know that not all survivor mains are entitled douches right? Some actually try and help others out.
That is true but all the duuuds out there are really loud and tend to speak over sensible survivour players so often survivour representation tends to be really bad. Killers have to be good at dealing with loss and stress to reach the top so it tends to humble killer players fast.
Its also a society thing we feel bad for the underdog even though in this case their mass murdering monsters XD. When we see survivours complain its like watching the advantaged person complain they broke a nail. Often there problem can actually be serious and reasonable but we tend to veer to one side and stick in that camp because opening your mind to other opinions requires effort and empathy. I don't think dbd was designed to appeal to that demographic of people.
I guess I never feel bad for the killer because my friend group doesn’t BM the killer. I rarely if ever run into lobbies where the survivors are being entitled bullies. I run into more killers who get salty because a survivor actually knows how to use flashlights and pallets to their advantage. Then they wind up camping or coming back with NOED the proceed to call all the survivors trash. Just from my own experience. I never feel bad for killers, don’t have a reason to.
Not saying that survivors are always friendly because they certainly are not. I’ve run into my fair share of entitled survivors while playing killer.
The killers are beginning to become more entitled nowadays, and survivors don't say much about it anymore since the devs never listen for example the windows nerf is completely unnecessary and yet the killers are begging for it. There's no more nerf needed to survivors except for the perks. If the devs add this window change I may as well become a killer main
Tell us how you do i guarantee it is not as easy as it looks XD. In all honesty everyone is not reading the patch notes fully. We have nerfs for both sides. Killers like trapper have trap buffering now. Huntress had her windups reduced, survivors get invincibility frames after unhook exhaustion replenishes immediately on being hooked.
Everyone gives the devs ######### for supporting one side but its utter nonsense both killer and survivor is changing and people like you make it hard to take your complaints seriously. Survivors are complaining so are killers we don't want balance As players we want a constantly changing horror game. Is killer to strong yes and no. For swf groups killer is still too weak, for solo players killers are way too powerful. The devs made the decision to improve the solo survivor experience by giving the players some of the tools that make swf strong obsession can now be seen chased allowing players to focus on rushing gens for instance. Honestly I blame swf for the high power level of killers it should be relegated for casual play only not ranked. Something has to give either survivors have to play with swf level tools and killers continue to get buffs or swf has to be limited as the difference between these groups of players is too massive.
Killer is still pretty easy I've been improving on Nurse a lot and got Shadowborn, Sloppy butcher, BBQ and chilli and a Nurses calling on her. Games are pretty fun and I feel the control. The healing nerf is dirty lol and with sloppy butcher it's really good. I haven't gave upon survivor and I've regained my skill lol. I was maybe a little mad about the windows nerf except for removing the mindgames to the shack it's really not that bad and easier for killer. The game is in a good state I'd buff Vigil to recover exhaustion while running for 60 secs since that'll be a little more fun for survivor but apart from that the new buffs are fun for both sides. Solo survivor btw.
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@MegMain98 said:
@Zarathos said:
MegMain98 said:@Orion said:
@Poweas said:
@TigerKirby215 said:
"Is Nurse a high skill cap killer?" He asked in the Survivors discussions.
Survivors tend to give more solid answers
I'm tearing up from laughter.
You do know that not all survivor mains are entitled douches right? Some actually try and help others out.
That is true but all the duuuds out there are really loud and tend to speak over sensible survivour players so often survivour representation tends to be really bad. Killers have to be good at dealing with loss and stress to reach the top so it tends to humble killer players fast.
Its also a society thing we feel bad for the underdog even though in this case their mass murdering monsters XD. When we see survivours complain its like watching the advantaged person complain they broke a nail. Often there problem can actually be serious and reasonable but we tend to veer to one side and stick in that camp because opening your mind to other opinions requires effort and empathy. I don't think dbd was designed to appeal to that demographic of people.
I guess I never feel bad for the killer because my friend group doesn’t BM the killer. I rarely if ever run into lobbies where the survivors are being entitled bullies. I run into more killers who get salty because a survivor actually knows how to use flashlights and pallets to their advantage. Then they wind up camping or coming back with NOED the proceed to call all the survivors trash. Just from my own experience. I never feel bad for killers, don’t have a reason to.
Not saying that survivors are always friendly because they certainly are not. I’ve run into my fair share of entitled survivors while playing killer.
The killers are beginning to become more entitled nowadays, and survivors don't say much about it anymore since the devs never listen for example the windows nerf is completely unnecessary and yet the killers are begging for it. There's no more nerf needed to survivors except for the perks. If the devs add this window change I may as well become a killer main
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@TigerKirby215 said:
"Is Nurse a high skill cap killer?" He asked in the Survivors discussions.Survivors tend to give more solid answers
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@DeadByFlashlight said:
@Poweas said:
@Dabrownman1812 said:
Poweas said:Ok so I play both survivor and killer on xbox. 500 hours, about 300 to survivor and about 200 to killer (198 to every single other one and 2 to Nurse with games where I got abused). And I switched to PC since Xbox got boring rank 1 was easy to get to and it was ridiculous how overused killers like Myers were
. So I played a little survivor and decided to try out Nurse, my only perk was a nurses calling, no addons and I 4 manned in the Asylum with only 1 blink missed and then I 3 manned in the Shelter woods (Last guy got hatch due to the hatch spawning when I slugged them because exit gates were open, almost got him tho ^^). I had no addons and I dont get why faster turning and better frames make her so easy to use. I literally watched 1 nurse guide telling me to zigzag blink (Ardetha's guide on YT) and other things and I find her so easy? Am I naturally good at her or is she easy to play on PC. I have more struggles playing Trapper lol. Btw PC community is so nice I love it here ^^.Rank isn't the same since emblems, horrible rank 1s who can't keep a killer busy for 30 seconds exist. Good that you're practicing on those lames lol. Nice people, but haven't earned their rank. Had rank 2 killers falling through the hole in the game etc, rank isn't about skill or knowledge anymore. Og rank ones would've ripped you a new a$$hole on that run.
Thank god I'm not planning on ranking up any time soon lol
Its not worth it, you dont get anthing for it anyway besides that cheap achievement/trophy for losing your rank 1 virginity^^
Made me laugh so hard my sides now hurt lol
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Would look awesome
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@Dabrownman1812 said:
Poweas said:Ok so I play both survivor and killer on xbox. 500 hours, about 300 to survivor and about 200 to killer (198 to every single other one and 2 to Nurse with games where I got abused). And I switched to PC since Xbox got boring rank 1 was easy to get to and it was ridiculous how overused killers like Myers were
. So I played a little survivor and decided to try out Nurse, my only perk was a nurses calling, no addons and I 4 manned in the Asylum with only 1 blink missed and then I 3 manned in the Shelter woods (Last guy got hatch due to the hatch spawning when I slugged them because exit gates were open, almost got him tho ^^). I had no addons and I dont get why faster turning and better frames make her so easy to use. I literally watched 1 nurse guide telling me to zigzag blink (Ardetha's guide on YT) and other things and I find her so easy? Am I naturally good at her or is she easy to play on PC. I have more struggles playing Trapper lol. Btw PC community is so nice I love it here ^^.Rank isn't the same since emblems, horrible rank 1s who can't keep a killer busy for 30 seconds exist. Good that you're practicing on those lames lol. Nice people, but haven't earned their rank. Had rank 2 killers falling through the hole in the game etc, rank isn't about skill or knowledge anymore. Og rank ones would've ripped you a new a$$hole on that run.
Thank god I'm not planning on ranking up any time soon lol
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But why do people call her the hardest killer in the game? > @MojoTheFabulous said:
She's certainly easier to play on PC due to a mouse having much better precision than a controller plus the maximum controller sensitivity for DbD is garbage.
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Slows the hell out of the game. Use it on Nurse, Hag or Wraith and you'll see, the slower healing keeps them off gens ^^
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@Mrrgle_the_Mediocre said:
People are seriously overrating Hag. Yes, she's good now, yes, she has some good map control, but at the end of the day she is still a slower killer who has to stop and start scrawling something on the ground to be effective. Even in a loop, if the Survivor sees you placing one they'll just run to the next pallet early. This will help you shorten the chase a little, sure, but above Billy? That's ridiculous. Especially on larger maps now like the new one, that quick one-place-to-another movement has utility out of the roof.
I agree Myers is really good, no one else seems to. The guy literally has a free unavoidable insta-down. Even if you play optimally, one way or another he'll eventually get it, it's an endless countdown to your demise.Have you even seen the power of a good hag? The chases are so short and you have people crouching around, add sloppy butcher and you're going to win. She's a menace to deal with. I always 4 man with her with 4 gens left unless its on swamp then I gotta 3 gen strat. As Billy I always 4 man in 99% of my games but with 2-3 gens left. If you make pressure as Hag, she's stronger then Billy. Rank 1 killer and rank 8 survivor btw on xbox. Rank 9 survivor and killer on PC. Her base is weaker then billys tho. Also with hag u dont need to trap the whole map. I just trap half of the map off for myself. On swamp I can get half of it done too if I'm wise. And she's slow but she can teleport if u predict the survivors so it doesn't even matter that much that she's slow since you'll win the chase anyway. I play Billy more than Hag and I can't find him better. He's more fun tho
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Please add a colourblind mode as well I saw a person saying he wanted it and the game is hard for them. Please add it.
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Lithe>Dead hard=Balanced landing>Sprint burst. All are strong though. Dead hard and balanced landing are the same for me.
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@not_Queen said:
I'll bring the feedback to the team! Glad you are having fun and you like the changes!You devs have been on point with the balance changes you guys made Trapper and Hag really good. Ever since Pig got released killer buffs/nerfs have been fine and the perk rework to Calm spirit was amazing. My new fav perk btw. Keep going and I trust that the game will be better and soon, it'll be perfect.
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@No_Cluie_Louis said:
@SoulKey said:
@Tsulan said:
Then for the love of god, play killer.
There you can proof how good you are, by taking less time to catch a survivor and by not camping that poor fella.Don't forget to tell us about your experience once you hit red ranks.
That's why i can't take killers seriously. Because they will just justify any cancerous gameplay for lame excuses, Double standards.
Exactly, there's always some reason killers a right and survivors are wrong. I get some survivors are toxic but baby killers need to stop using a few people as an excuse to play toxic against everyone
You'll get used to it. I ain't toxic either and I run a killer for 3-4 gens and get face camped sometimes. I just laugh nowadays I used go get mad but I cba to get mad over 1 game it's ez to pip back up
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Going to use Sloppy butcher on hag and doctor ^^.My games will be so long
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@MegaWaffle said:
To sort of extend on MandyTalk's comment Dead Hard is the more skillful perk.Lets break it down like this:
Lith will grant you more distance from a killer if
A: you can make a safe vault anyway
B: you can afford to get hit.Dead Hard will
A: 90% of the time give you a whiffed attack worth of distance (unless you misstime or killer expects DH)
B: Get you to a window/pallet safely along with a whiffed attack worth of distance
C: Save you from a basement body block/hook farm (more so after the next patch)
allow you to Dead Hard past a Trapper trap
E: save you from a Nurse blink
F: hop through a sandbaging teammate
G: anything more creative than I can think ofSo while Lithe offers far less planning its limited in uses over Dead Hard.
Hmmmmm. What if I were to use Lithe AND Dead hard. Right now my build is Tenacity, Dead hard, Self care and Iron will. If I replace Iron will for Lithe and try it for a game it might work tbh. Then I'll add it to my main build which is Calm spirit, Iron will, Lithe and Self care. It's a very versatile build and can hard counter Nurse badly works against Bubba, Billy and EW3 Myers, Pretty good against Huntress. If I replace Calm spirit for Lithe that could be a pretty cool combo.
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Vault the window not vault the killer
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@thesuicidefox said:
The drawback to SB is that you need to walk everywhere when you are not in a chase, or be sure you can recover your exhaustion in time before you get into a chase. It's also the most basic of the perks and most killers expect it therefore they know how to counter it better.DH is good to dodge a hit or recover from a mistake, but if a killer knows you have it the usefulness drops through the floor. The speed/distance you get from it makes it not worth using to actually get away from the killer, only to get away JUST a bit longer to make it to a pallet or window or something. I also requires you to be injured, which means it's worthless against one hits like chainsaws or anything Exposed.
BL suffers from being too specific a condition to trigger. Some maps have very little or nothing to fall from, and it becomes a wasted slot. The fact it lets you recover from a drop faster is ultimately what makes it useful, and the speed boost is more of an afterthought.
I use Lithe now because it's a lot more reliable. It only triggers when you vault during a chase, and can have the same effect as SB in that it helps you to actually lose the killer. It also means that you can run freely and it tends to be a surprise to killers. Plus even if they know you have it, there are few ways to counter it since you will be on the other side of a window/pallet when it procs. The major downside comes when you face off against a Trapper or Huntress, as they can make vaulting unsafe. Nurse too, but they need to time the blink just right to hit you as your feet land on the other side. Lithe takes more skill to use properly than SB but can potentially be more rewarding when used right.
Against Nurse and Huntress Lithe can still work tbh. If you bait the blink/hatchet then vault you should be ok. With Nurse you bait the blink, move back then move forward and she'll blink towards you then vault the killer. With Huntress pretend to vault but swerve last second. With Trapper go to window loops and Lithe is safe.
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I'm also a really good survivor on xbox. Btw
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Played a game with dead hard against a dopey Billy and used Dead hard. Sadly I didnt get to use it once. I wasn't getting hit in a 3 gen chase and when he hit me he wasn't able to catch up. Btw I'm rank 5 and he was too and downed my team in seconds. I think Lithe is better since with Dead hard isn't that good if you're good at chases. But I'll continue trying it for a few more games. Also trying Tenacity ^-^
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some survivors are entitled like Ochido is but not all.
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Tf? I'm a survivor main who plays both survivor and killer and I agree that killers need major buffs? Why the hell do you think survivors are dumb and entitled I'm certainly not I think. I mean I play at R1 for both. But I got some friends who have great understanding of the game and they're just rank 15. Calm your t!ts.
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Are you high? The clown is a speed limiter killer. He limits the survivors speed. Why tf do you want another version?