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Along with insta downs!!!!???
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So I’m assuming you had the ability to kill the last survivor with your hands! You realise at this point there is no stand off.dannyfrog87 said:@Lowbei said:
cool storyif you have nothing constructive to say besides "cool story" say nothing at all.
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Wow 😮Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:"People like you are the reason I'm grateful for mass shootings"
-Claudette main 2018
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After Playing Killer:
Survivor:
You noob red morri is for losers and you only hooked me once I should have 3 lives, go back to fortnight
I tebagged you because I wanted to farm and you killed us nooobbbbiii.
After playing survivor:
killer: ######### noob ass hacker, I had those last 3 gens on lock down and you use a key to get all of you out because your a noob and can’t win with good killers.
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Isn’t that the average wait time between matches alreadyRemoveSWF said:Yeah but ragequitting survivors don't care if other players ragequit. Their goal isn't to survive. They just like to get chased, grief, then disconnect before they get hooked.
Timeouts are so much more easy and effective. Nobody likes having to wait for a game.
One hour timeout for every ragequit.
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Your standard line;RemoveSWF said:I never talk in the post-game chat.
You are not entitled to a conversation.
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It’s easy to abuseMaster said:@Badmanone said:
Nickenzie said:
Badmanone said:it would be abused 2. we don’t Need it 3. just deal with it because it was always part of the game instead of trying manipulate ppl
Number 1: It can't abused because SWF can't endorse each other. If you know any other way to abuse it then tell me!
Number 2: I think something is wrong with you when you said that because it sounds to me you want DbD to become a more toxic environment, isn't what we wanna prevent as a community?
Number 3: Yeah @Badmanone I'll deal with the sexual/######### comments, death threats, cancer wishing on my family, and racist comments... Additionally it's not manipulating anyone, it's supposed to ENCOURAGE players to behave more civilized. Even after the endorsement update, there's literally nothing stopping you from being toxic but if you want more stuff then act more civilized.- think a Minute about it and imagine what will most likely happen
- What is wrong with you? You’re playing a game with the job hook survivor. What you imagine will happen. They wont like it. btw you can already dodge harassment and all these #########. Game is over, just leave it, done. It’s your own fault if you always stay in lobby to catch such a ######### and then you come here into Forum to cry how bad these survivor are. I can’t hear this anymore. Harassment was always part of DbD and it will always be but theirs already a counter for it. JUST LEAVE and stop crying.
- Better watch your attitude
Will you enlight us and explain how it can be abused or are you just trashtalking?
1. All survivors will vote each other up regardless of toxic chat, survivors are more likely to get 3 votes per match while killer is likely to get non, of cause it will be abused and it will mean nothing.
2. Remove chat and it’s instantly reduced, apart from those who have to go out the way to send you abuse and an endorsement won’t stop them.
3. The benefit of paying people to be nice, doesn’t make a person nice, it’s a false economy that will not last.
4. Get max endorsements and go back to being toxic.
5. If you try to add a sown vote to combat 4 that will be the new way to be toxic.
IT WONT WORK.
People who want to send abuse will do so regardless of encouragement not too.
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You're wrong with all this.
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Looks more like a failed attempt at salt mining to me.
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Off topic, incoherent with a hint of grandeur (albeit delusional) that’s definitely the traits of a toxic player.EpicFailTryHard said:Paddy4583 said:
Well you’re an exception to that ruleEpicFailTryHard said:always the single digit players that are the most toxic.
playing with people whose sole ambition is to make the killer mad has never and will never be an ambition of mine. mad killers camp and tunnel. pretty simple really. impressing strangers with allusions to a number has likewise been the venture of bozos for me. just not seeing it but believe as you must, kiddo.
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That can’t be true, as far as I’m aware only the human race would understand your verbal skills, and there certainly isn’t a member of that race who’s inferior to you!EpicFailTryHard said:chemical_reject said:
Even if ur "lifestyle" enables u not to "measure ur epeen" ur rapid fire comments show u don't utilize that optionEpicFailTryHard said:chemical_reject said:
lol, if you only knew the lifestyle that i have. suffice to say it enables me not to be measuring my e-peen with the "so-greats".
lmao. a'ight. i happen to enjoy verbally battering my inferiors. you'll just have to take my word for it. =D
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Firstly: no where did I say rushing back with a hillbilly was tunneling, I said you examples of “distance camping” were more like.... more like meaning it’s closer to that then camping.Beardedragon said:@Paddy4583 said:
Beardedragon said:@Paddy4583 said:
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@Orion said: @Beardedragon said: @Master said: @Beardedragon said: @Paddy4583 said: mzombie1431 said: @MegaWaffle @inkedsoulz. This was entirely to start a discussion and I actually like the idea of speeding up the progression if the killer goes away. It is a decent compromise, maybe not 2 or 3 times. Maybe a step up progression based on distance away. Huntress and irredentist heads will be 9/10 killers, DBD shooter mode enabled or hillbilly distance camping. or hag. distance camping You survivors always manage to make me smile :wink: you survivors? idiot, i play 80% killer so im a big killer main. why cant some of you dolts just realize that even though i play killer, i can still see when we go overboard with the nerfs? i really like the changes and nerfs to survivors this time, but this suggestion is just downright terrible. and yes, thats coming from a killer main. maybe before you consider me a "survivor" you should actually check out my posts in which i defend killers against survivors in different posts. i mention distance camping because ive done it numerous times, specially now with the new hag. you just plant 3 traps around the hooks which will get sprung when they try to rescue. i just teleport back in, kill the guy and rehook him. its not hard. by definition im still camping the hook, just not at it. That's not the definition of camping, at all. You've been brainwashed by entitled Survivors. i have not. whether you want to call it camping or not i dont give a damn. it changes nothing about this suggestion, which is terrible. why in your right mind would you believe that its correct to have 2x faster progression speed on hooks just because you are not standing near the hook? The idea is truly awful, however in a social environment the definitions of words do matter as they have a global meaning and understanding.
On this environment we wouldn’t consider trapping a hook and leaving as camping. That’s why people didn’t understand you and why you were perceived as a survivor.
maybe. but a hillbilly having a clear running line to a hook with a chainsaw that can reach the place in 5 seconds with the chainsaw rush, is still a camper even if he, by definiton, isnt so close to the hooked guy that he could smell their farts.
if he ran normally, the guy would get down, and they could run off, thus he's probably outside of "camping radius" but with the chainsaw? he's gonna get there super fast and gib those guys. he's still camping, but he's outside camping radius.
what do we wanna call that? semi camping?
If anything that’s more what people define as tunnelling, when you rush back to a hook to chase down the unhooked.
The difference is hook control and proximity.
What your saying Is like saying your at your house when your in the same city looking in the direction of your home.rushing back with hillbilly isnt tunneling.
tunneling is where you only go for one survivor.
Beardedragon said:@Paddy4583 said:
Beardedragon said:@Paddy4583 said:
Beardedragon said:
@Orion said: @Beardedragon said: @Master said: @Beardedragon said: @Paddy4583 said: mzombie1431 said: @MegaWaffle @inkedsoulz. This was entirely to start a discussion and I actually like the idea of speeding up the progression if the killer goes away. It is a decent compromise, maybe not 2 or 3 times. Maybe a step up progression based on distance away. Huntress and irredentist heads will be 9/10 killers, DBD shooter mode enabled or hillbilly distance camping. or hag. distance camping You survivors always manage to make me smile :wink: you survivors? idiot, i play 80% killer so im a big killer main. why cant some of you dolts just realize that even though i play killer, i can still see when we go overboard with the nerfs? i really like the changes and nerfs to survivors this time, but this suggestion is just downright terrible. and yes, thats coming from a killer main. maybe before you consider me a "survivor" you should actually check out my posts in which i defend killers against survivors in different posts. i mention distance camping because ive done it numerous times, specially now with the new hag. you just plant 3 traps around the hooks which will get sprung when they try to rescue. i just teleport back in, kill the guy and rehook him. its not hard. by definition im still camping the hook, just not at it. That's not the definition of camping, at all. You've been brainwashed by entitled Survivors. i have not. whether you want to call it camping or not i dont give a damn. it changes nothing about this suggestion, which is terrible. why in your right mind would you believe that its correct to have 2x faster progression speed on hooks just because you are not standing near the hook? The idea is truly awful, however in a social environment the definitions of words do matter as they have a global meaning and understanding.
On this environment we wouldn’t consider trapping a hook and leaving as camping. That’s why people didn’t understand you and why you were perceived as a survivor.
maybe. but a hillbilly having a clear running line to a hook with a chainsaw that can reach the place in 5 seconds with the chainsaw rush, is still a camper even if he, by definiton, isnt so close to the hooked guy that he could smell their farts.
if he ran normally, the guy would get down, and they could run off, thus he's probably outside of "camping radius" but with the chainsaw? he's gonna get there super fast and gib those guys. he's still camping, but he's outside camping radius.
what do we wanna call that? semi camping?
If anything that’s more what people define as tunnelling, when you rush back to a hook to chase down the unhooked.
The difference is hook control and proximity.
What your saying Is like saying your at your house when your in the same city looking in the direction of your home.rushing back with hillbilly isnt tunneling.
tunneling is where you only go for one survivor.
Secondly: even if I had said that, do you really think your current position if defending your definition of camping, you have the ability to then correct me lol, when tunneling is often applied to the player that has just been unhooked in most cases. -
If anything that’s more what people define as tunnelling, when you rush back to a hook to chase down the unhooked.Beardedragon said:@Paddy4583 said:
Beardedragon said:@Orion said:
@Beardedragon said:
@Master said:
@Beardedragon said:
@Paddy4583 said:
mzombie1431 said:
@MegaWaffle @inkedsoulz. This was entirely to start a discussion and I actually like the idea of speeding up the progression if the killer goes away. It is a decent compromise, maybe not 2 or 3 times. Maybe a step up progression based on distance away.
Huntress and irredentist heads will be 9/10 killers,
DBD shooter mode enabled
or hillbilly distance camping. or hag.
distance camping
You survivors always manage to make me smile
you survivors? idiot, i play 80% killer so im a big killer main. why cant some of you dolts just realize that even though i play killer, i can still see when we go overboard with the nerfs? i really like the changes and nerfs to survivors this time, but this suggestion is just downright terrible.
and yes, thats coming from a killer main.
maybe before you consider me a "survivor" you should actually check out my posts in which i defend killers against survivors in different posts.
i mention distance camping because ive done it numerous times, specially now with the new hag. you just plant 3 traps around the hooks which will get sprung when they try to rescue. i just teleport back in, kill the guy and rehook him. its not hard.
by definition im still camping the hook, just not at it.
That's not the definition of camping, at all. You've been brainwashed by entitled Survivors.
i have not. whether you want to call it camping or not i dont give a damn.
it changes nothing about this suggestion, which is terrible.
why in your right mind would you believe that its correct to have 2x faster progression speed on hooks just because you are not standing near the hook?
The idea is truly awful, however in a social environment the definitions of words do matter as they have a global meaning and understanding.
On this environment we wouldn’t consider trapping a hook and leaving as camping. That’s why people didn’t understand you and why you were perceived as a survivor.maybe. but a hillbilly having a clear running line to a hook with a chainsaw that can reach the place in 5 seconds with the chainsaw rush, is still a camper even if he, by definiton, isnt so close to the hooked guy that he could smell their farts.
if he ran normally, the guy would get down, and they could run off, thus he's probably outside of "camping radius" but with the chainsaw? he's gonna get there super fast and gib those guys. he's still camping, but he's outside camping radius.
what do we wanna call that? semi camping?
The difference is hook control and proximity.
What your saying Is like saying your at your house when your in the same city looking in the direction of your home. -
Ohh look at you attempting salt mining ⛏KillingInstinct said:I'm normally at rank 1 but this was shortly after reset. And I'm not that good at the Clown yet
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The idea is truly awful, however in a social environment the definitions of words do matter as they have a global meaning and understanding.Beardedragon said:@Orion said:
@Beardedragon said:
@Master said:
@Beardedragon said:
@Paddy4583 said:
mzombie1431 said:@MegaWaffle @inkedsoulz. This was entirely to start a discussion and I actually like the idea of speeding up the progression if the killer goes away. It is a decent compromise, maybe not 2 or 3 times. Maybe a step up progression based on distance away.
Huntress and irredentist heads will be 9/10 killers,
DBD shooter mode enabledor hillbilly distance camping. or hag.
distance camping
You survivors always manage to make me smile
you survivors? idiot, i play 80% killer so im a big killer main. why cant some of you dolts just realize that even though i play killer, i can still see when we go overboard with the nerfs? i really like the changes and nerfs to survivors this time, but this suggestion is just downright terrible.
and yes, thats coming from a killer main.
maybe before you consider me a "survivor" you should actually check out my posts in which i defend killers against survivors in different posts.
i mention distance camping because ive done it numerous times, specially now with the new hag. you just plant 3 traps around the hooks which will get sprung when they try to rescue. i just teleport back in, kill the guy and rehook him. its not hard.
by definition im still camping the hook, just not at it.
That's not the definition of camping, at all. You've been brainwashed by entitled Survivors.
i have not. whether you want to call it camping or not i dont give a damn.
it changes nothing about this suggestion, which is terrible.
why in your right mind would you believe that its correct to have 2x faster progression speed on hooks just because you are not standing near the hook?
On this environment we wouldn’t consider trapping a hook and leaving as camping. That’s why people didn’t understand you and why you were perceived as a survivor.
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Used to be BP but now they increased shard value to have a money value I use them on cosmetics
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I played Myers last night with hex DH and managed to Get 5 tokens and keep it till end of match.Orion said:@Beardedragon said:
@Orion said:
"Distance camping", lol.well a hillbilly can get the faster progression and just charge in with a chainsaw.
Which isn't camping, unless you define "camping" as "not a free unhook", although I know many Survivors do just that...
I wanted to stabby stab them to death, they had all been hooked at least once and had 4 gens done, the last 3 gens were all close so I could keep them guarded, while trying to morri them all which took ages as they were trying to bait away from gens killed them, last one DCd and I still got called a camper even though after token 5 I didn’t hook a single player.
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😫😫😫 Well us 3 only got the gen to 99%, where’s that fourth survivor to tap this? dam you 33% rule!Sehkmet said:Lore: Each survivor in the trial has a unique knowledge and tools to repair specific parts of a generator.
How it works: Each survivor can only repair each generator till 33%. To complete a generator three survivors have to work on it.
Whats expected?: Survivors have to roam and complete their share of each generator around the map, this might stop gen rush and it would be funnier both sides to roam around the map instead of holding leftclick in a single spot for 80 seconds.
Settings: IF a survivor dies, the knowloadge is transfered to the remaining survivors.
4 survivors alive = 33,34% cap
3 survivors alive = 50% cap (two survivors have to work at each generator)
2 survivors alive = 100% cap (a single survivor can repair from 0 to 100%)What happens if the killer kicks a generator? Not sure, you should help me with this one:
A ) all the survivors can repair the progress that is lost.
B ) only the survivor that made that progress can repair it.What can be implemented? auras around the generator that you already completed to 33%. (The aura is lost if the generator loses your share of the progression)
BNP can be reworked to complete your share of a generator (33% 50% or 100% depending on survivors left) or it can be reworked to allow you complete a whole generator by yourself [BNP removes the 33% cap of a single generator with the 15%-25% current bonus]
This is just an idea and i want to hear your thoughts, No-Salt allowed, no survivor/killer main QQ allowed
I suggested something similar a few times, but after thinking about it, it really is just a big nurf for survivors like me who play solo.
It hurds survivors to be in the same place, if you were solo and you’ve done 33% of each gen what do you do then, keep going round topping up after the killer has kicked your 33%?
As a killer you’d just patrol gen to gen kicking and eventually all 5 of you will just want the game to end.
Personaly what I’d like to see is the exit gates reduced to a single gate, a time delay on opening the gate depending on the speed all gens were done, this prolongs the game and gives the killer that additional chance that the end game is lacking without addons and perks, plus it would be far more of a challenge getting out without buffing individual sides.
Or your gen idea but applied to the exit gates rather then the gens
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Huntress and irredentist heads will be 9/10 killers,mzombie1431 said:@MegaWaffle @inkedsoulz. This was entirely to start a discussion and I actually like the idea of speeding up the progression if the killer goes away. It is a decent compromise, maybe not 2 or 3 times. Maybe a step up progression based on distance away.
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Lol Myers in a chase ohhh dear.KillingInstinct said:@Delfador said:
If the killer was meant to win against one survivor, there wouldn't be a hatch for the last survivor. Although I accept that something should be done for the hatch standoffs, I see nothing wrong in here.The chase took over 10 minutes due to the pallets in the map and the looping and infinites. U don't think there's anything wrong with that? The fact that 1 survivor, I repeat, ONE survivor can do this. And u see nothing wrong there?
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Yep.Mister_xD said:@OakLestat said:
Well if you haven't noticed survivors are pretty sure that campers win all the time. Otherwise they would be happy that the killer is dumb enough to camp and ask them to do it more for easy wins. It is a reality of our player base.I think it is a great idea. It creates urgency in survivors and and intensity of the match.
every Survivor who thinks that camping killers win all the time is just bad.
Sorry to say that, but i cant find anything to excuse such a BS...
see it all the time.
its more fishing then camping half the time because these altruistic survivors don’t know when to stop, so the bait is put on the hook and the little 🐟 come a biting.
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It will make no difference in the long runAshleyWB said:I wanna stay away from high ranks but I keep pipping. I dont wanna be a bad team member but I want dbd to be fun at lower levels. Try hards, experts and sweaty players are high ranks and don't really let you have fun. -
Let them camp
and further more when are we getting this cosmetic...
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I didn’t insult I merly quoted him and asked a question.MineAntoiya said:And this is the problem with this ######### community! Everyone results to insults as soon as they can without looking into the other persons point of view.
Once you emotionally charge a conversation with insults everything goes to ######### and you sabotage any hope for things to stay neutral.
You however have brought the feels and insults.
Go you for showing us how it’s done. 🤦♀️
Personaly I think if you get offended by anything on these forums then the internet is not a place you should go to.
i Like to think this community is the way it is because they have passion for something, not because they are as you put it #########!
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Lol I doubt they’ll respond to a catch 22fcc2014 said:
Getting popcorn ready!Paddy4583 said:
Soooo you suck if you need 2 or 3 but you noticed you don’t get that anymore? So are you saying you suck or you did suck or you were using 2 or 3 to grief?RemoveSWF said:I haven't noticed much difference as survivor.
I get one Dead Hard instead of two or three but if you NEED two or three then you suck anyway.
The game should be about escaping, not looping, exploiting and griefing.
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As a survivor it’s took 2 days to get the hang of flashlight saves again, it’s not impossible they have just made it a right place right time quick set up.
Now instead of making a drink having a shower and getting back to the controller as the old pick up animation was finishing to get the save, I barely have time to pull it off, but it’s still very possible.
so your definition of the word literally as you used it is incorrect, lightborn just reduces the chances it doesn’t make the chance 0%.
what you mean is it’s impossible for YOU to do it.
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His animation makes it look like he’s moving at a faster speed, I’m not sure they actually are though.Claudette_Baguette said:what is the exploit? faced many clowns and didnt see anything suspicious.
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Soooo you suck if you need 2 or 3 but you noticed you don’t get that anymore? So are you saying you suck or you did suck or you were using 2 or 3 to grief?RemoveSWF said:I haven't noticed much difference as survivor.
I get one Dead Hard instead of two or three but if you NEED two or three then you suck anyway.
The game should be about escaping, not looping, exploiting and griefing.
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I’m pretty sureslingshotsurvivor said:I meant hack aka Definition: a strategy or technique for managing one's time or activities more efficiently."there's one easy hack to avoid the eight dollar popcorn trap: eat before you get to the theater" OR "He's such a hack"
He’s a hack
and a life hack are very different.
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I love a good game of being slugged and playing the hiding game, I’d rather bleed to death then let you hook me
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....Zixology said:This forum has become the new Steam forum.
Reddit was a platform where Survivor mains jerked each other off and killers couldn't say anything.
Steam forums were a platform where killer mains jerked each other off and survivors couldn't say anything.Seems all the killer mains moved here. All I was hoping for was a place where people who played both sides could voice their opinions without getting flamed by whoever got the good/bad end of the stick.
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Seems your inability to stop smiling after the update didn’t last long then
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It is NOT there job to monitor your ‘feels’thomasnut said:I'm done replying back to individuals who are actually defending toxic behavior and harassment on here. The point of this thread is to point out the dev's need to finally start doing their jobs and dealing with this kind of behavior.. There is no point to having a reporting system if nothing is actually going to be done about this kind of harassment.
Have a wonderful evening.
If your being harassed on stream then complain to the service provider you were using to stream!
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His mom checks on him, and everyday when she feel a pulse she dies a little more insideLowbei said:ok #realtalk for a sec because im concerned about you epicdude
a month or so ago when you made your first thread, it was a legit salty thread about camping.
i did my normal git gud thing, that most people shrug off, but you somehow lost your mind and developed a self-defeating complex. Since then, youve made daily “i suck” threads and now seem to be competing for the worst player award.
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Your honourosegredo1 said:@Paddy4583 said:
Probably banned to many survivors while you’ve been ragingWhy are you talking about
raging, you don't even know who I am.
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Haha if your beaten easily by any of those (except maybe billy at high ranks)feffrey said:If you want easy wins play these killers for a easy win
Doctor
Freddy
Wraith
Hill billy
Leatherface
Clown
These killers here take zero skill to use
Most players that use them just hold spam their ability
you don’t need a list you need a new game.
What’s the wraiths ability anyway:
“oh I wonder where the wraith is, there’s a blurry thing I can see in the shape of a wraith that can’t touch me at all, maybe that’s him. I’ll flashlight it..yep that’s him”
Dr on the game with great addons is probably the easiest but these are not easy win killers that require no skill at all.
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Probably banned to many survivors while you’ve been raging
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To be fair I don’t see many killers dropping a lobby these days, and when I do it’s more sown to waiting on survivors to join then the equipment they have.
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Don’t see any issue with killer seeing items in lobby makes no difference to a survivor, and if it’s because of dodging, I’d rather they leave the lobby then load in see a flash light then DC
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Only 2 DCs seen last night in the 3 hours I was playing which is about standard so I don’t think it’s increased, Also from a survivor perspective I didn’t notice much of a change but I only really used SC anyway and the change has yet to effect the way I use it.
Pick up time is great, and still able to get Saves with flashlight, to be honest I think it’s easier as the timing to do it has reduced, like the fact that the whole set up tome had been taken away.
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Yeah I read the forum and play killer, I personally don’t camp as it only harms me as a killer so I wouldn’t get salt for camping as I don’t do it, and I don’t see these forums as a mojority of DBD players at all probably 25% of the community so I wouldn’t take this forum as a majorityOrion said:@Paddy4583 said:
Nope I’m just not bothered about other people’s play style, survivors create their own problem with camping.Indeed they do, but they also get pissy about it. If you don't know that, either you've never played Killer, or you just don't read the forum.
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Nope I’m just not bothered about other people’s play style, survivors create their own problem with camping.Orion said:@Paddy4583 said:
Because most survivors don’t care about camping, there’s no point taking a bullet for something that you don’t care about. Camping just gives people more time to do gens and gives the killer less points, all pros for meYou must be new here (DbD).
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Balance is an illusion there is no such thingNick said:
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Because most survivors don’t care about camping, there’s no point taking a bullet for something that you don’t care about. Camping just gives people more time to do gens and gives the killer less points, all pros for meOrion said:If you want to get rid of camping, you have to be drastic. The problem is that most Survivors aren't willing to bite the bullet.
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I have 3 p3 survivors and the rest are just 50 and below I see no difference in their bloodweb chances of better items at all
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Envees said:
@ItsDaEmuDood said:
This post will receive so much hate just from the title. Fatal mistake, young one.He can post his opinion but they will be laughed at.
No. Lets do what he wants. This will kill the game and no killer will want to play which in turn will make survs play killer. Then they find out how ######### an experience it is and also quit.
With dropping sales and nobody playing the devs will either forced to give up or make drastic immediate changes.
And please stop reviving this old troll thread
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They can’t remove it because killers want less
ways for survivors to escape, less windows, smaller buildings, less pallets, better maps for the killer, if you removed TR they would need to change the chase aspect to a hiding aspect and remove all killer aura readings including gens, change all survivor perks as majority are not useful in evading killer completely, full map reworks so there are actual hiding places and say good bye to the crows that give hiding survivors away.
I think killers would get pissed off with hide and seek long before survivors do.
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Devs be like....
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