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It doesn’t work like that... there is no derank between 20-15 so no matter how bad they are eventually they will hit 15 and there is no going back.Dwight_Confusion said:The rank reset philosophy is great.
We just need RANKED REWARDS NOW.
Keeping the lesser skilled, more casual players together in 16-20 is a good idea.
15 is now the new 20
20-16 is just a training ground that will be passed in less than 2 days for a casual player.
But those who hit and stay at top end stay there which is better. -
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SovererignKing said:
We do rebut your points. You just sit there and and call every rebuttal a “Logical Fallacy”, and when you can’t call it that, you say “your twisting my words” as a deflection shield that you “meant something else by it” in order to cover your ass when you say something stupid.powerbats said:@SovererignKing said:
Label everything as a “Logical fallacy” and say they are “twisting and distorting your words” when they really aren’t every time you back yourself into a corner and make a stupid comment. Never change Powerbats, it’s fun watching you make an ass out of yourself publicly.
Typical you're just as bad as he is when you can't rebut my points you resort to the same failed insults. You know I'm right but just like him you can't handle the truth. The only ones making asses out themselves are you 2 because it's easy to see what I said and what you both said I said are 2 different things.
There's also all my posts from other threads where I even talk about friendly killers and normal killers not camping me. You know like these gems where I had already posted way prior to the drivel you 2 are putting out.
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Ok 1st 2 matches down
1st game Leatherface on Myers map and it was great, everyone got to do stuff, killer got 9 hooks since I let myself get sac'd for the 9th hook. It was overall really fun and some hilarity ensued when chainsaw hit more than the intended victim.2nd game- Typical Billy tryharding and never once despite him using offering did he go for a BBQ hook. In fact he went out of his way to avoid them and camped the 2 event gens. While he scored 47k BP that was due to my Bloody Party Streamers and 4 sacs. We didn't know he was tryharding until he showed his gameplay.
3rd Game was a Huntress on Lery's who was really cool and one person quit during loading screen. So she let us do our thing and she got 2 out of the 3 hook stacks but sadly the 3rrd person wouldn't let themselves get hooked.
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Well would you look at that 2 matches where the killer didn't face camp me nor hard camp or camp me at all. But it was said that I have an issue with getting face camped every match. so I must be the problem. could post plenty more examples but I don't want to run multiple pages showing how wrong you both are.I could also post where unlike you 2 I've bashed my fellow survivors for being jerks in game and post game. I've yet to see either one of you specifically call out toxic killers.
But go ahead and keep making yourselves look foolish by trying and failing to twist what i said just so you can inflate your egos with more failed insult attempts.
Lastly on threads where you're not jerks I agree with your points if their valid and even offer counter suggestions to help improve things.When you post a funny response I upvote and or even respond to it with something funny as well.
Its like a child going “That’s f’in stupid” and their parents scolding them and they go “BUT I MEANT FREAKING!” When you know damn well what they meant to say.
Only one here with an ego is you. You can’t admit when you’re wrong, ever. Anytime someone disagrees with you it’s a “Logical Fallacy” and “twisting and distorting your words. Seriously, grow up and learn some humility.
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1. Incorrect I do watch Marth88, tru3 and several others, and to be honest 99% Marth kicks ass as killer and survivor so his stream and what we see doesn’t exactly reflect his argument, however his views do cater to his fan base hhhhmmm isn’t that interesting.SovererignKing said:
He has made suggestions multiple times, he has made points multiple. This was his farewell AFTER all those suggestions and points fell on deaf ears. Though I’m sure you wouldn’t know about that at all because you don’t bother to watch Killer streamers or youtubers to gain their perspective. I mean, why would you bother, you don’t like Killers in the first place.Paddy4583 said:
^^ When you make assumptions that I disagree with him or have an argument to make with his points.SovererignKing said:
^ When you have no good argument against his balance concerns, and simply insult his weight like a petty child.Paddy4583 said:
Eating is not a regular jobDeadByMemelight said:Marth has a regular job, so I doubt he'll play a game he doesn't enjoy just for viewers.
There is nothing to argue, to argue first he would have had to say something new or at least suggested ways in which to balance, but he didn’t, because it’s not possible, so there is nothing to argue.
He and all the rest will be spouting the same stuff about DG in a few months too.
There is no such thing as balance in games like
this never has been never will be, there’s an illusion of balance, which seeing as the majority of killer mains on this forum was all up in the ass of 2.0.1 as it was so great for them, which now seems to be forgotten because like most people you realise it’s Fake, killers only liked the patch because survivors didn’t.
So they assumed if it’s bad for the survivors it must be great for killers!!!
Secondly, balance is a scale. Marth isn’t looking for it to be perfectly balanced. That’s not possible. He saying the scale is so far tilted on the Survivors side it’s obvious it’s nowhere even close. Then again, what would one like you know about balance when you hardly give two shits about one side of the scale?
Lastly, Killers likes the patch because it’s showed PROMISE of balance. Most knew it wasn’t actually much, but at least it was a step in the right direction. Which promptly got rectified that once again the developers chickened out and are going to give Survivors buffs in the upcoming patch. Pallet stun drop changed, the “spin” taken away so that Survivors no longer have to make any sort of preemptive movement and anticipate the Killers movement as Pallets will be purely reaction based guaranteed safety nets once more. I-frames off the hook because Killer camps and other Survivors make stupid hook Rush saves. The developers once again caved to the 400-500+ review bombing on the game from Survivors whining they weren’t OP enough to “have fun”.
Killers did realize it was “fake”. Simply because right after the tiny nerf to exhaustion, Killers got slapped with upcoming Survivor buffs and Bloodlust nerf. Proving ONCE AGAIN the Survivors know they have the developers by the balls and all it takes is a one review bombing to get their way.
So instead of doing your research on Marth and what he was talking about, in order to understand his perspective... you made petty fat jokes. All because your ignorant and don’t give a ######### about Killers. All because your ignorant and don’t give a ######### abut balance unless your precious Survivor gameplay gets nerfed and/or Killers get buffed.
2. Balance is not a scale, a scale is used to measure balance.
In asymmetrical layouts you can only counter, and this game does exactly that, but they lay that on the individual.
Also please see first sentance, what he says isnt what you see.
3. I rest my case about killers perception of the changes. As you cry for balance and attempt to scold for being one sided, while being one sided in your view.
Tell me for each exhaustion perk for it to proc a second time how long the chance would have been going and what BL level you would be at during these KPIs, then tell me where balance or the promise was taken away with the suggested changes for the next patch...
I’m sure you have all the data on how many times you have hooked someone and they have been unhooked while exhausted which has secured your second hook, while you wait for the rescue to be done to hit the person who’s just been unhooked.
4. I have no desire to research Marth, as I’ve said before it’s irrelevant what he says when his game experience is a factual account of what’s happening.
If you’d actually analyse all his videos, and measure the metrics, I bet you wouldn’t come out with an unbalanced result, and that is the reason it’s always talk and no real ideas for change.
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To be honest I don’t see it as toxic it’s not like the event goal is difficult to achieve, and I’m playing normally so why shouldn’t the killer.Russ76 said:@Paddy4583 said:
PigNRun said:
Outland said:Mostly because of Killers running, RUIN and Overcharge, and Kicking Event gens. Toxic builds meant to screw over the Survivors event. This is why people want to retaliate.
Oh, no! A killer using a perk that has been called a "must have" to make the game last a bit longer and that can be removed! And a perk that forces a skillcheck once! And, worse, kicking a generator, a feature added to the game intentionally, much like sabotaging hooks! The toxicity from this killer, oh my, worse than a nuclear fallout.
Every match I’ve seen ruin in I’ve saboed all event hooks to 99% and waited for that wonderful moment they get there and crash there goes your event hook.
I see your point, but those players who are being toxic A) won't read the forums probably, or
think that they aren't the problem. I am sure they think wow he just saboed the event hook time for me to turn up the toxicity..I have thought about turning up the toxicity as I have been "screwed over" by both survivors and killers but the problem is it just hurts the next person who might be "innocent". Also toxicity breeds toxicity.
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The insinuation is that they not letting them have easy event gens....PigNRun said:
Oh, no! A killer using a perk that has been called a "must have" to make the game last a bit longer and that can be removed! And a perk that forces a skillcheck once! And, worse, kicking a generator, a feature added to the game intentionally, much like sabotaging hooks! The toxicity from this killer, oh my, worse than a nuclear fallout.Outland said:Mostly because of Killers running, RUIN and Overcharge, and Kicking Event gens. Toxic builds meant to screw over the Survivors event. This is why people want to retaliate.
Every match I’ve seen ruin in I’ve saboed all event hooks to 99% and waited for that wonderful moment they get there and crash there goes your event hook.
Not sure why anyone would want a hook gone for
good, can you imagine if the killer could destroy a gen permanently🧐😮🧐😮🧐
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^^ When you make assumptions that I disagree with him or have an argument to make with his points.SovererignKing said:
^ When you have no good argument against his balance concerns, and simply insult his weight like a petty child.Paddy4583 said:
Eating is not a regular jobDeadByMemelight said:Marth has a regular job, so I doubt he'll play a game he doesn't enjoy just for viewers.
There is nothing to argue, to argue first he would have had to say something new or at least suggested ways in which to balance, but he didn’t, because it’s not possible, so there is nothing to argue.
He and all the rest will be spouting the same stuff about DG in a few months too.
There is no such thing as balance in games like
this never has been never will be, there’s an illusion of balance, which seeing as the majority of killer mains on this forum was all up in the ass of 2.0.1 as it was so great for them, which now seems to be forgotten because like most people you realise it’s Fake, killers only liked the patch because survivors didn’t.
So they assumed if it’s bad for the survivors it must be great for killers!!!
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Says the Typical build DrSnakeSound222 said:@Grey87 said:
Since when a game developer equals best killer/survivor?
Dumbest thing I've seen today...
They are obviously not playing the game enough to be good at it, and developing the game doesn't make them better than someone who played it for lots of hours.It's only dumb if you're a Survivor main who uses crutches and likes having Survivor be ridiculously easy.
The devs don't seem to understand that Killers are weak, even though we have complaining for two years. When they try to play with their community and go up against halfway decent Survivors and have games end in less than five minutes because they got genrushed and looped for days, then they'll se
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The stupid ones maybe... camping someone so the rest can do the event gens is the ideal situation for the rest of the team!Demonsouls1993 said:Some killers only camp due to survivors breaking the event hooks thank ur team mates -
Yes actually playing matches lolTheJohn said:So you actually played the match? I can enter into a lobby too but when the game is about to start the connection shuts down.
EDIT: It's working for real.
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I’ve just been going to the store first then joining a lobby and connects every time
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Those prices have changed since it became free on PSN.Judgement said:Sorry if the image is low-quality, but this has really pissed me off.
Dead By Daylight is free for PSPlus holders on PSN, and I naturally went and checked the DLCs when I discovered the connection issues affecting me.
And I see this.
Curtain Call is not shown here because it's at the top of the page, surrounded by Auric Cell microtransations, but Curtain Call is also $12.
To buy all of these DLCs, you need to spend upwards of $50 on console.
That is more expensive than the game itself on Steam, by a factor of 2.5, in which the game on Steam only costs $20.
PSN gets the special edition that gives them the Doctor and Hag chapters for free, but why are you making every other DLC cost so much more than they do on Steam?And then I go to the Steam page and see this.

Now let's calculate this out. For simplicity we'll round to the nearest full number - we are not using cents.
If you buy just the Chapter DLCs - points one through seven in this screenshot - you only spend $46, just for chapters.
Take away Of Flesh and Mud and Spark of Madness, two sets of $7, as they come with the special edition on PS4 for free, and the price for all the chapter DLCs on PC that are purchaseable on PSN comes to $32.
How much does it cost to buy them all on PSN?
$56.On PSN, we pay $56 for less content than we do on PC alone, even if we don't exclude DLCs from the PC catalogue.
Personally, I have purchased all of the PC DLCs and I was dumbfounded to see the ridiculous prices of the DLCs on console - you, BHVR, have literally doubled the prices of any given chapter DLC on PC, for console.
What's your reasoning here? Capitalising on the free weekend? Or has it always been like this?Not just on my behalf as I predominantly play DBD on PC, but I speak for all gamers on console - put the prices down to the same as they are on PC, for console.
This is not right. I understand you are not pulling an EA Games or Activision here, but this is completely unfair for those who play on console.Editing to add something; I’m in Australia but it still doesn’t make sense that these are so expensive for me. As established in the thread my prices are nearly double that of the prices in the NA store, and still just double that of a steam prices.
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Yep news just inNickenzie said:
He played the game for two years basically for both survivor and killer, he has been trying to tell the developers what's basically wrong with the game. I didn't post this because "OMG MARTH88 LEAVING!!!", it's because I want this to get the developers attention that the game is not in a great spot ATM. However they are making progress, BABY steps but that's better than taking steps backwards. Additionally if you don't care about what he thinks then why click on this thread?mintchapstick said:Why do we all care about what a youtuber thinks?
Devs are gutted Marth88 has left so are now gonna implement all his requested changes.....😂
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Eating is not a regular jobDeadByMemelight said:Marth has a regular job, so I doubt he'll play a game he doesn't enjoy just for viewers.
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Pretty good idea, because you know that’s the first gens they are going for. Leave them too itGlossed said:Is anyone else facing killers who over protect event gens? They leave a chase just to stop the person on the gen. I am not mad or salty I am just curios if anyone else is having the same problem..
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Tyde thinks he’s the dogs and has an ego, he’s a moron. NOED and DS users aren’t “unskilled” and removing them will not drastically change the skill base of players at all, the guy just spouts 💩
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Please these killers have weak ass eyes with a flashlight can you imagine what the light of day would do
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Nah...powerbats said:@CallMeRusty420 said:
@feffrey said:
honestly... This is most killers if not allYou have to admit, he isn't wrong though. Killers aren't supposed to please the survivors.
True but there also supposed to sacrifice not camp and set up a tent on the hooked victim. I mean the entity is displeased message pops up telling you that you sucked as killer. You're most definitely supposed to please the entity and it isn't going to happen by camping.
But at the same time some survivors are just plain stupid and hopefully once they rewrite the code and get dedicated servers they can really fix things better.
camping is one of the strongest ways to get a 4K because survivors don’t know when to stop trying to rescue and just do gens.
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Unfortunately most content is full of sentances like the last one....Runiver said:@Shadoureon said:
@Runiver said:

This forum ain't your diary.Funny coming from a guy with 2k posts.
At least, 90% of my posts aren't baits or "this is my life", but try to achieve to be constructive.
“try to achieve to be constructive!”
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Just logged on about 4 games ago on PS4 fine
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It’s also great as a dev to place these things in files to drive conspiracy and conversion
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I sabotaged every hook twice because I’m a dick
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Ogre Nea? Isn’t that her normal skin the poor old minger
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Not true, hard core campers are high ranks, how do you think they got there? Why look when they come to youShipthebread said:It doesn't make sense, camping only really happens at low ranks. It's not an issue later.
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You understand the word exploit....right!?M2Fream said:Survivors say that any killer who uses the new tinker is exploiting, well any pallet looper is exploiting hitboxes... any SWF is abusing 3rd party software... but whateve -
I would only agree in that circumstance, which wouldn’t be every match and the time it consumes is so small I’d say it’s irrelevant in game outcome.Delfador said:@Paddy4583 said:
Oh my.... a business try’s to accommodate for 4/5ths if it’s player base 🧐🤭🧐
mots almost like they are trying to make as much money as they can while they can.That being said I really don’t think the last patch did much, killers for some reason thought they got some amazing balance with exhaustion when really they didn’t at all, and survivors though they got it bad when again it’s not noticeable to most players at all.
just like these next PROPOSED changes, won’t be, I mean who ever uses BL 3 and apart from letting a survivor know what the other survivors are doing while hooked isn’t gonna be a huge game changer either, stopping the hook farming reward is a good change for both sides, stops crappy saves and crappy killers.Although I agree with most of what you said, I think you are making a fatal mistake when you underestimate the power of kindred.
So many times I have wasted my time to go to the hooked person to only find that another survivor came and rescued her. It is time consuming and killer benefits from it. This is why an early hook can change the whole pacing of the game. If survivors really need this perk, just like many killers need ruin, then they can sacrifice one perk slot for that. I just can't understand how devs can give a massive buff to one side while giving no advantage to the other side.
If it was as beneficial as people are suggesting it would be used more often. It also not useful for SWF it’s only going to give solo players more info.
consistently killers state survivors should work as a team to win and then when they are equipped to do they don’t like it, plus it’s not even been stated that kindred was going to be added like that, it was merly a passing comment and everything else is speculation.
Just as survivors went 🦇 💩 crazy over an actual change, even though it’s hardly made it harder for them, it because they moaned killers made out it was the best thing ever, when in reality they just perceive it that way because of the view of the other side. Apart from trapper and hag who may have seen improvement in their games the other 99% noticed nothing -
It’s gonna be reworked into a hook demolition perk, if you get hooked all other hooks on the map are gonna explode until gates are powered.
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Oh well if the hippo said it we must all listen, because after all he’s so relevant.
Ive never got BL 3 and only got BL 2 a few times it won’t make a difference, and if you need BL 3 to win a chase you don’t deserve the catch. -
Oh my.... a business try’s to accommodate for 4/5ths if it’s player base 🧐🤭🧐
mots almost like they are trying to make as much money as they can while they can.
That being said I really don’t think the last patch did much, killers for some reason thought they got some amazing balance with exhaustion when really they didn’t at all, and survivors though they got it bad when again it’s not noticeable to most players at all.
just like these next PROPOSED changes, won’t be, I mean who ever uses BL 3 and apart from letting a survivor know what the other survivors are doing while hooked isn’t gonna be a huge game changer either, stopping the hook farming reward is a good change for both sides, stops crappy saves and crappy killers. -
Is your mom and dad brother and sister?Goobz said:Why the [BAD WORD] is everyone hating on this guys thread? It literally says in one of the trailers that you can play how you want which included being a ‘solo’ player playing for yourself. You absolute [BAD WORD] morons. Can’t believe everyone just expects the world to be sunshine and rainbows. I bet all you guys that are against OP are Liberals too. You make me sick.
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Opposed to starting on the hooks you meanthomasnut said:What this op means is, he is glad they are just one step closer to starting the match with the exit gates already open.
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Pretty sure it will be evend out by the crying of BL from what I’m seeingAndyMXM said:Just imagine the reviews it will receive after they nerf self care and d strike -
Yep killers can see all auras of other killers on the map.M2Fream said:If survivors get default kindred killers get default BBQ. Both aura reading perks right... -
Most people do that anyway because if your scummy enough to farm someone you’re to pussy to risk your hatch anyway.Outland said:@AmorePrincess said:
You can play as a team, or you can play aa a lone survivor. But playing solo doesnt mean you have to play scummy and ruin the others gameplay.These changes are great, seeing there are so many thinking like you.
How is leaving you on the hook to die, while I sit on the Hatch more fun then , me unhooking you and perhaps you get away and I end up on the hook?
One way ensures you die, and the other gives a chance for survival.
Because taking away the incentive to risk interaction with the hooked person, makes just camping the hatch and waiting for you to struggle out much more appealing.
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That’s what happens when you have farming killers and survivors teaming other players, it’s along time coming.Raccoon said:Survivors are also getting MASSIVE buffs.
In-built kindred, invincibility frames while being unhooked (killer will act as though they hit a hooked survivor if the survivor has not regained control after unhooking), and HOOKING REMOVES EXHAUSTION.
Chase that guy for 2 minutes after a well-time Sprint Burst and hook them?
Oh no, they're getting unhooked! * watches them mash Sprint and escape during I-Frames *
Fair and balanced, fam, especially with the speed of BL3 being nerfed by 50%.
BL is irrelevant in this case, but it’s been balanced with DS you can’t ask for survivors to have les pallets, less windows, less speed, no DS and still expect to keep the killer chase perks -
Please quote these so called nerfs you think you heardBbbrian2013 said:@FrenziedRoach said:
I swear to Fenrir, half this community has selective hearing.These nerfs to Bloodlust have been talked about for a very long time because it's not being used as they intended.
Also, keep in mind they waited till AFTER they removed pallet vacuum (which isn't coming back) before moving forward with this.
FFS...
How long they've been contemplating the change is irrelevant to me.
It's the fact that they're nerfing killers while they're already weak. These changes won't even hurt the OP killers Nurse/Billy but will everyone else.
You don't nerf something that is weak!!!
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What can they really do with Myers though, the only other thing he was ever dressed in was a hospital gown and his boiler suit
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I lack no skill to write he says 🧐🧐🧐Rellewd said:You said once ago if a screenplay came your way, not worded that way... umm, yeah you said you're are welcomed to the idea... that all typed I'd believe I could create such a film in a DBD way...I got money when it honestly comes down to... I got areas and other resources.....I lack no skill to direct/ and or write... savvy with editing software and all I have to have is creative control... I rock the labels name and really for real, you can hold partner status.... really cheap in comparison... hard to put a $# on it... bare minimum 16k more be better, going off the F13 fan film > Never Hike Alone - A Friday the 13th Fan Film (Full Movie) < research shows their budget was 16k.... Wes Craven's NOES in the eighties cost him roughly just 1million and in my prospect the 2017 fan film budget is really more than a enough but would personally go for more, < CAMERAS COUNT < well im reaching out again...
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If your not using them they May as well not be there, your holding on to a picture!facundoj said:@Paddy4583 said:
AshleyWB said:I hate prestiging so because I lose everything...EVERYTHING. My idea to to add an item vault for survivor and killer to save those most precious items such as ultra rares and even event items like the spoopy medkit and flashlight and if course firecrackers. Killers would store offerings.
Items can be transferred to the vault for a small amount of bloodpoints every time. These items can be stored for any survivor/killer to withdraw any items.
Or use them before you prestige??
Just another less complicated 💡If you have limited items like the firecrackers, you have no way to get them again. It's nice to keep limited items, at least they should not dissapear.
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Or use them before you prestige??AshleyWB said:I hate prestiging so because I lose everything...EVERYTHING. My idea to to add an item vault for survivor and killer to save those most precious items such as ultra rares and even event items like the spoopy medkit and flashlight and if course firecrackers. Killers would store offerings.
Items can be transferred to the vault for a small amount of bloodpoints every time. These items can be stored for any survivor/killer to withdraw any items.
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If people moved to killer after these changes then it was a change too far....Kuroyu said:I think some stuff has been changed way too fast in way less time. Unexpirienced players left or started playing killer. I think less people are trying to get used to that new changes or never tried lol. Still good luck for your search!
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Yep 👍chemical_reject said:Honestly I have this conspiracy theory that @Vortexas, @EpicFailTryHard and @RemoveSWF are actually the same person using alt accounts to troll this forum....... -
> @brokedownpalace said: > I'm thinking Borrowed Time, Kindred, Open Handed and maybe Sprint Burst.
Youd have to have a good team for anything to really work, a good camper will wait for you to commit to the rescue and grab you. -
Imagine what he can do without ruin, 70 second games?ChesterTheMolester said:Get multiple hooks during the first 30 seconds including finding survivors? I smell bullshit -
Noooo then killers will as for the ability to jump pallets
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No they want survivors to start the game on the hooks then they will finally be happyVietfox said:What's gonna be your next nerf suggestion? Survivors shouldn't be able to run? -
No they are the complete opposite which is the point!Hillbilly420 said:@Paddy4583 said:
Along with insta downs!!!!???Because they're obviously the same thing...