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@Warlord1981NL said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3329336#Comment_3329336
There is nothing wrong with the world. There is something VERY wrong with your world view. I am under no obligation to play the game in such a way that it will get your seal of approval. The only obligation I have is to play within the game's rules and, for me personally, to the best of my ability as I am of the opinion that is showing your opponents respect.
Can you give me a reason why I should play the game in a way that garners your approval? You are just a random on the internet. I don't give a hoot about what you think of the way I play. But I am interested in hearing why you think I should care.
Same apply to you, my dude.
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@Sonzaishinai said:
I'm sure it wasen't your intention but i can see how it could be seen as an insult.
Water under the bridge i'd say. You learned now so you won't accidentally insult someone like that in the future.
You shouldn't lose sleep over it
I just learn that DbD has a lot of players in a soft shell, well better I will be moving to another games xD
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@TerraEsram said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/362563/does-feel-sorry-for-you-sounds-insulting
Dunno what happen with some of the killer recently, with this event, all killer are in tunnelling or camping mode... And when you say something like what you just said (or when most of the survivor escape and saying well done everyone) he got mad..
I think some people need to chill, and quick
@Warlord1981NL said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/362563/does-feel-sorry-for-you-sounds-insulting
I personally don't really care about such comments as it is the mildest of insults but then again an insult nonetheless. You are making him out to be a pity case and that is not a nice thing to say.
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3329299#Comment_3329299
You are wrong. A play style has nothing to do with a person's disposition, relational status or anything else for that matter. It is just how they play. Also, you have to start realizing that just because you don't think playing a certain way is fun or fun to play against that doesn't mean it isn't fun for someone else nor does it make someone else responsible for you having fun.
I camp, I slug and do everything else survivors whine about on a regular basis. Hell, if it were still possible to tunnel in this game then I'd be doing that too. Nothing scarier than systematic destruction. Don't get me wrong, I start my games off with regular play but if you:
- Use a Flashlight
- Use Dead Hard
- Crowd hooks
- Body block in general
- Have TTV in your name
- Finish more than 1 gen by the time I get my first hook
- Teabag
Then you can count on my full arsenal of underhanded tactic being brought to bare. Because this tells me, except for the TTV which is a matter of you making money out of my gameplay and you aren't paying me, that you are not there to have just a fun game.
But if I wouldn't do that, then it is still funny to me how survivor's expect the bad guy to not use underhanded tactics. It is not my job to ensure you have fun, my job is to provide the horror aspect of the game in the form of killing you in whatever manner. You agreed to that by joining the queue. I don't care if you have fun, I am just trying to win. That is all it is. If I get outclassed by a survivors but I don't feel the need to tell them off. I did my best, they were better. The whole notion that there is something like toxic how people play is ridiculous. Besides, if someone tries such tactics and fails then you feel a million bucks and the need to ridicule the killer. Me? I never say anything except for "GGz" and just move on to the next game.
Agree
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@Chaos999 said:
It's an extremely condescending thing to express.
Even if your feelings are genuine, it would probably have been in that player's best interest to simply not write that and just go next.
I usually avoid chat, because what's the point talking to negative people? But in this special case he were camping me so I feelt sorry, only that
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@DashMonsta008XV said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3329330#Comment_3329330
🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣 Your funny. Making money off my gameplay and I'm not getting paid 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Exactly, this is not possible, dude thinks he is a Star! xD
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@Warlord1981NL said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/362563/does-feel-sorry-for-you-sounds-insulting
I personally don't really care about such comments as it is the mildest of insults but then again an insult nonetheless. You are making him out to be a pity case and that is not a nice thing to say.
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3329299#Comment_3329299
You are wrong. A play style has nothing to do with a person's disposition, relational status or anything else for that matter. It is just how they play. Also, you have to start realizing that just because you don't think playing a certain way is fun or fun to play against that doesn't mean it isn't fun for someone else nor does it make someone else responsible for you having fun.
I camp, I slug and do everything else survivors whine about on a regular basis. Hell, if it were still possible to tunnel in this game then I'd be doing that too. Nothing scarier than systematic destruction. Don't get me wrong, I start my games off with regular play but if you:
- Use a Flashlight
- Use Dead Hard
- Crowd hooks
- Body block in general
- Have TTV in your name
- Finish more than 1 gen by the time I get my first hook
- Teabag
Then you can count on my full arsenal of underhanded tactic being brought to bare. Because this tells me, except for the TTV which is a matter of you making money out of my gameplay and you aren't paying me, that you are not there to have just a fun game.
But if I wouldn't do that, then it is still funny to me how survivor's expect the bad guy to not use underhanded tactics. It is not my job to ensure you have fun, my job is to provide the horror aspect of the game in the form of killing you in whatever manner. You agreed to that by joining the queue. I don't care if you have fun, I am just trying to win. That is all it is. If I get outclassed by a survivors but I don't feel the need to tell them off. I did my best, they were better. The whole notion that there is something like toxic how people play is ridiculous. Besides, if someone tries such tactics and fails then you feel a million bucks and the need to ridicule the killer. Me? I never say anything except for "GGz" and just move on to the next game.
Omg, just read again what u said. Most of things sounds pity, no abuse. Why we living in stereotype world and still trying making toxic behavior in game as a normal thing, and after just tap on a head toxic players an appreciate them? Just what is hell wrong with this world?? Im confused...
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@RainehDaze said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3329306#Comment_3329306
You're being patronising and condescending. You're basically going "I feel like I get to look down on you and make judgements about your life and how pitiable you must be because of how you play a game".
Also, it's ridiculously obnoxious to start making grand, sweeping projections about somebody's life because of how they play a game.
And im not judging anyone but worried my way, I have some struglle to express myself and I sick of tired to be missunderstood by people.
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@RainehDaze said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3329306#Comment_3329306
You're being patronising and condescending. You're basically going "I feel like I get to look down on you and make judgements about your life and how pitiable you must be because of how you play a game".
Also, it's ridiculously obnoxious to start making grand, sweeping projections about somebody's life because of how they play a game.
But come on, a lot of people conducting violance towards people in game rather that in a real life (im not English main) and this are they real feels, to hurt someone.
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@Halloulle said:
Well, you'll never know what other people might consider insulting. - As a rule it goes like this: people are free to feel insulted by anything but you're not obliged to prevent their feeling insulted.
You only have to ask yourself one question: Did you use overtly insulting language (e.g. swearing, curse words, words labelled as insults) and/or was your intention to make them feel insulted/cause them to feel hurt? If the answer is no then, well, they could very well take whatever you say as an insult - at the same time it's a they and not a you problem.
I don't see any insult from my side. But I wonder because it not first time when people came to my stream and taking words from context and scary me with possible ban on Twitch or DBD.
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@HoodedWildKard said:
Are you telling me you didn't mean it as an insult? Because that comes across as mad patronising and an attempt to trigger someone. Especially if they lost. (Idk you didn't mention) like it's a roundabout way of saying they're so bad at the game you pity them.
If triggering isn't your intention and you want to show good will to a bad killer i just tend to stick with "gg and gl with your next game"
Yes, I'm been honest, I just feel that when people playing toxic towards people in game, so they are probably lonely and angry or im wrong?
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@MeanieDeeny said:
I don’t understand why most people can’t see the correlation between gen rushing and face camping?
SWF’s load up with perks to bust out gens, bring map offerings and coordinate everything. It’s 4 v. 1. You’re not winning (if you win) because you’re skilled, you’re winning because you’re in constant communication w each other.
I am a Trapper main (and honestly I do quite well, but I constantly face tough SWF teams), yesterday I had a team bring me to Ormond. Okay I’ll make the best of it…game starts, I set down a trap..walk a short distance, put down another trap..a gen pops ALREADY. Start first chase, gen pops, down survivor, gen pops…hook survivor, gen pops…I don’t know how it’s possible..but that’s 4 gens in mere minutes. There’s 1 gen left…the game just started, why am I not going to camp the person I just hooked? 1 gen left. Game is already over. I ended up w a 3k, but it’s irrelevant. Still lost a pip. Had zero fun.
At 5 gens, camping and tunneling is completely ridiculous. Yes. But being gen rushed and camping/tunneling go hand in hand. Expecting to gen rush and have the killer give everyone their three hooks each, is highly unrealistic.
Excuses after Excuses, I guess playing this game = camping and tunneling, because u entered lobby xD
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@fulltonon said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3215529#Comment_3215529
I mean, why should other survivors have to waste an entire match due to your issue.
Many times was escaping 3 mans, and all was fine, if you are potato player extra man in lobby wont be helping. If you know u know
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@SuzuKR said:
DCing incurs the respective DC penalty. AFKing and sandbagging are against rules and can eventually lead up to a permanent ban.
So why is there a penalty-free loophole via suiciding on hook to achieve the exact same result of quitting out?
Yes, you cannot force people to keep playing a match. That is not the point. They should not have a penalty-free loophole for quitting. You still want to quit anyways? Then DC. (Or AFK/sandbag at your own risk.)
In response to brainless nonsense like "well ackshyually maybe u shouldnt play stuff other ppl dont like then": They are not even remotely equivalent. That is comparing actively playing a part of the game to actively choosing to give up and quit playing the game.
EDIT since I apparently have to make this clear: I am not advocating for punishing hook suiciding. If hook suiciding just wasn't possible at all in the first place, then there is nothing to punish. Example of what I mean:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3212866#Comment_3212866
Once again, why I should my precious time on killer who play badly and not fun??? Just move on and grow up and stop moaning about people decisions.
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@Bot_Salvo88 said:
I feel like I'm the only one who has no idea on how to describe this piece of art 🎨
You not alone
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No, that was for their inner event lol
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Prime cosmetics on Twitch is a joke for people like me who were grinding out all previous Rifts. Why??? I don't really understand?? So I guess is no Prime reward for me this time. I feel betrayed like that
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@WesCravenFan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3081534#Comment_3081534
I don't think anyone is a loser in real life for how they play a video game. It's not real. I used to play a lot of Lemmings on Windows 95. I enjoyed watching the little idiots drown by falling into water. I assure you, I have never murdered anyone nor do I intend to. Cause... you know... it's a video game.
Lol, just maybe read, what I'm trying to say
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@WesCravenFan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3081131#Comment_3081131
It has nothing to do with real life. Killers literally join a game to kill four other players. That is literally their job.
Tell me about it, with dosen off try hard "EZ" people in game who came after match and abuse in profiles, DMs and other places. They are God damn loosers in real life
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@ThatOneDemoPlayer said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3081143#Comment_3081143
Tell me you want free wins without telling me you want free wins.
And Lithe and CoH do work after the Exit Gates are powered
I wish honest game, but not wins. Lol, why this days kids want easy games and zero effort in it??
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@RakimSockem said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3081143#Comment_3081143
Hey you take that back. How dare you use the Feng profile pic and insult Lithe 👀
Lithe is bad, that's why I never was using that perk xD
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@BlazePyron2 said:
I just had a legion game where an extremely obvious bully swf just simply gave up partway into the match because they simply didn't want to play with the gen speeds I had forced them to. I was running thana, thrilling tremors, surveillance, and oppression. They finished one gen but it was obviously going to require too much of a time investment for them to continue the game, and they weren't going to get the satisfaction of stomping on a killer, so they just simply locker-hopped to annoy me until I finally hooked them all.
These are the kind of survivors that are going to be very vocal about how the balance in this patch is too killer-sided. So enjoy your slowdown builds while they last, I can't imagine bhvr not listening to the bully swf people who want to be able to feel invincible again.
Dude, just don't, most of killers think that 4 soloQ are swf. Just don't...
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Lithe, CoH, OtR, are bad perks lmao, especially when they not working on endgame
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@WesCravenFan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3066048#Comment_3066048
The Killer is TRYING TO KILL YOU. If you want a game where you are not in danger, but you really like running, I recommend Wi Fit, or maybe a Track & Field game.
"Survivors just want to have fun". is a subjective statement that depends on what is fun for you. The way half the Survivor Community talks it sounds like they want Killers to pretend to chase them so they can feel good about playing a game of Tag, but have no action lethality to it. I say again, he is trying to KILL YOU and he is under no obligation to follow your made up "fun rules".
The Killer is not your birthday clown and he is not here to entertain you.
Listen "trying" it doesn't mean he should stand and watching me on hook for damn 3 minutes. Lmao. In this stage that is not a game but freeking "dry meat simulater". No, thanks I better will go and play something else or read Manga or book, instead of wasting time on person who doesn't know what mean PLAY A GAME.
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@Exxodus21 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3080579#Comment_3080579
People who are actively harming the experience for other players because they aren't getting their way you mean. In other words, crybabies will cry.
Wait, killer mains was crying almost half year, and now we got this patch. Lol
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@Sumnox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3080267#Comment_3080267
This is literally 99% of killers at high MMR.
What amazes me is how people are acting surprised that, when killers are allowed to do so, they play the scummiest and worst they possibly can. Duh?
That is the moment what scares the most. And usually they are worst and toxic killers on top. Seems no one cares, and this games regreet toxic killers and support cry baby killers. This game is not fun any more.
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@Gamall said:
Basically you want to add another slowdown as a reward for killers who are simply playing the game.
I guess not only slow don't but free Mori also.
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@Marble_Index said:
Wait, we have to pay to prestige?! I thought I got 20K for doing it!
No, my dude, u actually paying 20k BP to get lvl 1 character and prestige...
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@cannonballB said:
There's no reason, other than to artificially get rid of bloodpoints at the end user level, to penalize us for prestiging. You keep saying you've reduced the grind, but then throw in artificial costs for something we're forced to do.
If you're trying to reduce the grind, why artificially inflate it?
Yeah, I've seen yesterday, 20k BP to prestige every lvl xD big joke
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@ButterFlee13 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3077421#Comment_3077421
see my point #1. Maybe its that individual play style. However, the new change is trying to make killer im point #2 become more proactive
They are not, and with new update it's EZ game for killers
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@ButterFlee13 said:
We already have a clear understand on the previous meta is an arm race between survivor's extended chase and killer slow down gen perk.
What I will say below is based on killer mindset that I understand, I know people sometimes are lacking emphaty toward opposing side which is normal tbh. But this is what I am trying to break down what devs are intended here for the changes. Which is to promote less camping and tunneling.
Camping and Tunneling: This is the game feature, but I believe the dev themselves never want killer to do that since it lower the interaction between killer and survivors.
- Playstyle: They want to do it or its their play style. Result: low pip, low mmr, less interaction with survivor.
- Hopelessness to get into another chase, when gens flying too fast for them to feel sure that they can chase and down another survivor before another gens pop as survivor has too many protection. Thus, they will resort to tunnel or camping.
Now, I can only say on 2nd point due to the 1st point is not a fun way to play and have some draw back as well.
For the 2nd point, this is what the new change will try to fix. Yes, the dev did not do anything or give any punishment for the camping and tunneling.
Instead, they buff the play style that give killer a sense of security of downing survivor if they see them. And also, give some sense of comeback despite gens flying in the beginning of the game.
For Example:
Scenario 1 Before update:
- - Killer hooked a survivor while gens down to 2 or 3. Killer will think that cannot do anything meaningful to get into their favor as survivor has dh and do gen very fast. Result= Camping and tunneling
- - Killer hooked a survivor, survivor team mate try to bait for killer to leave hook, Killer saw the survivor and thinking that they have dead hard and can extend chase more. Not guaranteed down. Result= Camping and tunneling
Scenario 2 After Update:
- - Killer hooked a survivor while gens down to 2 or 3. Killer will think the gens is longer, and they can make a comeback.
- Cause: Longer gens time, encouraging killer to get into chase more with some sense of security
- Result: Less Camping and tunneling
- - Killer hooked a survivor, survivor team mate try to bait for killer to leave hook, Killer saw the survivor and thinking that they can down them in 30 sec. Leaving hook.
- Cause: Shorter time of downing survivor, encourage to chase other survivor after hook
- Result= Less Camping and tunneling
With new update:
- Chase perk and info perk are become more valuable as you can get to chase more than before.
- Chasing survivor will have a higher guarantee to down them within 30 sec compare to before.
- Killer can have a comeback even gens flying at beginning of the game.
- NOED will be less desirable as end game perk has a very limited windows to begin with.
What do you think?
I had 2 games yesterday, outcome was only one gen done, killers still camping and tunneling. Nothing will change camping killers Behavior. In theory it should work, but on practice bad killers always will tunnel, camp and cry that survs are OP
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@AMOGUS said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3070884#Comment_3070884
I believe Sluzzy is trying to say, with this image, is that everyone is playing Killer while Survivor is dead.
Except, I believe the incentives are currently bugged because IME Killer queue times are 10 seconds while Survivor queue times are longer. Killers should be receiving that bonus, not Survivors.
Lol, u literally troll here
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@MikeyBoi said:
You shouldn’t be relaxed playing a killer that hardly takes any skill to play, and 18 min games sound very very unfun especially in a survivors perspective..
Long games are boring, hope that was sarcasm
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@tendyhands said:
I was worried about this but what I figured would happen is true for the new progression system. When you are at level 50 you have a huge bloodweb and can get a bunch of good items/addons. Being forced to prestige you have small blood webs with all trash on them so it's a lot harder to get anything good. This new system is horrible.
Agree, that's why I was making my Steve been P3 before update. The amount of BP what u using in to the blood web is Increased even more, because every new lvl will cost u 20k BP which I think is super joke
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@Adaez said:
My thoughts exactly,i'm honestly so glad survivors actually have to get better now if they want to have a chance to escape,killer should be the power role and this update makes this happen.
Maybe this will alsoo help soloq as survivors cant just mindlessly crutch on perks and rush gens with no worry.
Its just survivors complaining now that the game is harder for them because the killers got buffed,lol.
I also play survivor and i'm honestly glad the game is challening now,its kinda boring to turn every game into an easy escape or a farming simulator.
Don't worry, when survs will adapt to garbage gameplay and getting better, killers again will be complaining. That was happening twice already for this 6 years
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@Gorgonia said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3073069#Comment_3073069
Nothing you can do about it. Unfortunately the survivor that does know what they're doing gets screwed up because they're matched with 1, 2 or 3 survs that don't or that are still learning.
And the fact that this game provides no info for survivors that are playing solo, makes it even worse.
No, we can do, we just can stop playing awful balanced game. Only that makes weight now
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@Little_Kitten said:
Learn how to play without DH, you will see, it is quite possible 😁
No, I don't care about DH, but till hit validation is bad I can't loop killers, I got hit from them miles away and that is annoying. With good ping miles away hit....
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@KerJuice said:
Yea I don’t understand why they just didn’t leave DH at 1 full second. That alone was a tight window, & if someone was skilled enough to time a hit, they deserved the reward.
With current hit validation is not possible to use it in place, skill whos less than second longs, it's waste off slot now
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@Swampoffering said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3050762#Comment_3050762
If you have more fun playing BL3, then go and play It. Nobody is forcing you to play DBD, and you shouldnt force others to play by your rules
If the killer tunneled you, enjoy It, you got 3 chases while your team mates were pressing M1 like bots. Scummy or not, is legit and is the BEST way to win so good luck.
If you don't like Tunnel and Camp, play as killer without doing It and see what happens. If you keep playing as survivor, Accept that you Will get tunneled and inprove your Gameplay
Are you gona tell to kids with high grades in school, improve more??? That was just example. It's makes no sence. I love DbD but the way off huge amount off tunneling it makes unplayable. I was playing DBD in 2019 and there were more fun than now.
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@JakeCannon said:
For ######### sake survivors. Please stop unhooking the only hook within a 50 meter radius of me while I'm carrying your teammate to it. I understand 100% survivors can't just "let us" kill them/their friends but it shifts the entire momentum of the game if they do that, then flashbang me , and all use Sprint burst to go to different parts of the map. It's annoying and should be taken out in my humble opinion. Thats my rant and I'm sticking to it
Wait, don't say that apart from complaining about DH now killers will complaining about Sprint Burst???
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@acharliet said:
Has anything been changed ? Lately I m having extremely bad games tho. Pretty often I m having very bad teamates. Sorry for calling them bad, maybe some are pretty new tho. I have 4k hours and I m having problem to survive games tho. I shouldnt maybe use the word Matchmaking in title, because I feel like its on RNG.
When I m playing again Nurse- player who spent playing this game 8 800 hours, how is it possible that my teamate Bill has 36 hours.
Sometimes I m having like 1 good teamate and 2 teamates kind of sitting in lockers, unhooking teamates to killer face, crouching in corner of map, etc etc
I m little scared for coming patch with rework since I m playing Solo-Q and if I my lobbies will be same as these days then I m not sure if this game ll be playable Solo.
My teammate with 48h in game was unhooking me without BT next to killer with ebony, I got 1,7 k h I game. Feels sad
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@WesCravenFan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3050933#Comment_3050933
That wasn't an English correction. It was an answer.
You want to know why camps and tunnels happen at 5 gens. The answer is so those gens do not get done.
I have no idea why Survivor Mains act like the number of gens left dictate what behaviors Killers are allowed to do. It's not like Survivors are banned from doing certain things before a certain number of hook states. When was the last time you saw a thread that said "Survivors, why are you rushing generators at 0 hooks?". The answer is never. Get off the double standard.
Seems like you don't understand comletely. OK, I guess u are killer main. So tell me, is it any reason why killers try hard and tunnel and camping when it's START of the game??? Like complete start??? Because off bad and toxic killer Behavior most of survs who got hooked in first seconds just suicide and killers take that as normal thing, like it should be that way, like I just bloody turn on my game and waste my time to please the low esteem killer??? I came in to game to play, but not been abused and wasting my time, cuz my time cost more than yours "GG EZ" in end game. Yezzz... Now I see clear that this game is not for adult people like me. Bruhhhh
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@WesCravenFan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3048069#Comment_3048069
So that five gens DON'T get done.
Oh, sorry mister that English is not my main language. Yezzz
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@TheSubstitute said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3050724#Comment_3050724
Just a hint: Attempting to get a constructive discussion or people to listen to you seriously generally precludes making facetious comments. Tunneling in a video game doesn't say anything about the real life of the tunneler; trying to make that connection makes you come across as just salty.
Wow, OK, how u can explain that after tunneling match some off them trying to abuse me in DMs on discord or Twitch???
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@Swampoffering said:
"Repair gens is boring" Ok, then I will tunnel you, I will give you 3 chases.
"Tunneling is annoying, I don´t know why is allowed" Bruh, what do you want then xD
I am giving 3 chases, maybe 4 if that survivor runs DS, chasing is the most fun time in the game, so.... why do you complain about tunneling?
Survivors doesn´t want to repar (Really weird, they rush a lot) but they neither want chase so... maybe DBD is not your game, try Stardew Valley
Lol, i have more fun playing Borderlands 3 xD I love playing DBD and going in to chase, but when killer just death focusing on me, probably because I have ttv on name, just annoying and not fun. I'm trying to earn BP as well but since killers tunneling the best scenario was 6k points lmao. Waste off time for me, because killer just wasted my time with his scummy gameplay
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@Swampoffering said:
Easy Answer and easy to understand.
Go play killer, climb a bit MMR and see what happens. You Will understand why Killers Tunnel and Camp
Instead of complainig about Tunnel (Which is legit according to DBD rules at the CoC) you should complain about the problems in the Game that makes Killers play that way ;)
Listen, I don't want to be one off "them" unhappy tunneler, who doesn't have happy real life, you know.
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@rvzrvzrvz said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3049498#Comment_3049498
"it's an elimination game" doesn't mean anything it's about fun gameplay, majority of killers are campy now the current meta IS tunneling and camping the first survivor, it's just way too easy and effective for a braindead strat, zero skill needed.
Endgame camping when you can't do anything else is fine but what you see very often is hardcamping early when they're already winning and don't have to, early camp should be nerfed heavily, with all these anti tunnel perks like OTR they ackowledge that tunneling is the opposite of fun but still nothing against camping
Right now, I just got tunneled out off game when 3 gens need to be done. Love huntress with broken through obstruction hits...
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@Gary_Coleman said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3049425#Comment_3049425
I play Tetris whenever I get frustrated with DBD.
I'm soloQ survivor main and I know what you're talking about. At the same time, there isn't always a solution to these issues. Unless ya have an efficient group of survivors.
It bunch off well better games
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@pseudechis said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3048039#Comment_3048039
Because what you are describing isn't inherently toxic.
In fact removing an opponent early in an elimination based game is often the best move you can make.
Add to that the pay off for defending a hook (AKA camping) often outweighs the pay off for chasing multiple survivors and you have a recipe for optimal gameplay that often involves these twin elements of camping and tunneling off hook.
I'd hate to say it but the only "toxic" element to this is how much people upset themselves over it.
People really take being camped and tunneled personally but the truth is neither are some personal attack on your fun.
There are plenty of obnoxious plays on killer and survivor side and I'm not a fan of a lot of it, but in truth most of it is not toxic. Often its just efficient. People take this efficiency to heart though as efficient in DBD often means denial of objective or participation which is rather zero sum.
Non-participation and elimination a core aspects of DBD its the practical outcome of game mechanics, thematically you are trying to escape from capture and death which is represented in game by denial of participation (capture i.e. hooking/slugging) or elimination (death).
Try going into each DBD game with the expectation that you are probably gonna be caught and eliminated, sometimes really early in game. This is the core concept of DBD and some players are going to utilize it to its maximum but that doesn't make them terrible people out to ruin your fun.
Separate questionable game mechanics from players you'll find that most people are just playing a game within the confines of the mechanics available and that's ok.
Wait, so you trying to say that facecamping hooks, shaking head and EZ after game chat is not toxic?? Or I just missed something?
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@Gary_Coleman said:
Well it is a game about killers trying to kill people. You could play Tetris. There are no killers in Tetris.
Hahha, funny joke, I like horror movies so why I should play tetris?? Or you just sharing your own experience???
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@Cardgrey said:
Errm what's not fair... not fair; not conforming to approved standards, as of justice, honesty, or ethics: I don't think camping or tunneling break any of those as approved standards are set by bvdr. The issue is your entitled believing oneself to be inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment. Is more of the case of what's going on.
Dude, are you alright??? What's making you think that way?? No one asking or begging about privileges. Just funny how people putting me somewhere on top off moaning mountain. Damn.