Mc_Harty
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@Jack11803 said:
It’s sad how complete ass legion is. They should make their power more situational, and make them be much more powerful at all times. They should do a Survivors Slow vault on windows outside of frenzy (about EW3 speed). Have 115% speed. And possibly the same for pallets, (or a faster breaks, slow pallet vault is REALLY slow)Honestly I despise Legion. I think he needs a complete rework. Make his power more harder and riskier to use to justify him ignoring survivors defences, while making him stronger at the same time.
Oh and actually make his add-ons useful. The only ones I keep consistently see playing against him is Stab Wound Study, Franks Mixtape and the Frenzy cool-downs. Everything else is ass or pointless.
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@Vortexas said:
Really now?You're about a couple of months late there mate.
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@EntityDispleased said:
This comment didn't age very well lmao.I don't think any of the comments here aged well.
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@Poweas said:
His lunge used to be the same as EW3 Myers. That was mental. He had very little counterplay back then. I used to be a survivor main. That week before they nerfed him was really rough.Forgive me, but I don't remember his lunge being that large nor do I remember the devs changing it. Also slugging Freddy was cancer on release so I feel ya.
The devs still should have reworked him though instead of just blatant nerfs.
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@Poweas said:
His Lunge? His little counterplay? I will never change my mind about old Freddy being overpowered.
His lunge is practically the same as the others. The animation + how small he is just makes it looks different.
For his counterplay, it was completely one-dimension and not fun for the survivors, though I wouldn't argue it was overpowered. (At least not compared to the other killers).
Honestly, I think even back when he was released the community asked for a rework.
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@Poweas said:
Everyone agreed that Freddy needed a nerf, he was blatantly overpowered.
At slugging, sure.
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This looks fun. Lets drop a couple of Freddys here as well.
Movement Speed Add-ons
- Garden Rake
- Prototype Claws
- Paint thinner
There is no reason to run these add-ons. The movement boost is completely pointless since it only benefits Freddy during the dream transition, before the survivors fall asleep.
Slowdown Add-ons
- Outdoor Rope
- Swing Chains
- Jump Rope
These add-ons might be more useful if Self-Care didn't wake survivors up. Not as bad as the movement speed ones though since they do somewhat help with Freddies stall, even if he doesn't need it.
Black Box
The only reason to run this add-on is to tunnel the Obsession with Dying Light or Remember Me. Outside that it's completely pointless and is far outclassed by every other add-on later on in the trial.
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@The_Crusader said:
There are a lot of things unhealthy with the game that need an overhaul.Yes, there is. Many players either refuse to acknowledge it's a problem or act like it's needed because ######### the other side... It makes discussions difficult.
I don't get where Legion came from. He feels like Freddy - weak yet unfair at the same time (due to no stealth with freddy).
The thing is with Freddy is at least the survivors have counterplay against him. You can run him around with pallets, distracting him long enough so the other survivors can work on generators. It's not much but it's more healthier then the Legion, even if Freddys counters are one-dimensional.
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Finally nice to hear what you really think about this killer without the salt. This killer is completely unhealthy for this game and needs a complete overhaul.
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@KillerRaccoon said:
Now I just have to level up The Legion...Who? Legion doesn't exist, what are you talking about...
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Survivors are completely dependant on other survivors and the killer in order to rank up.
Killers on the other hand don't even have to kill to secure pips. (See Legion)
The ranking system as a whole is dumb and needs changes.
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The only issue with Hexes is that they can spawn either out in the open or next to generators. Fix that, and Hex perks will be a lot better.
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The only counter is just genrush. Yes, it's that dumb.
There's also the staying injured part, but considering the devs are going to buff him so being injured is more of a risk, it's honestly just going to make him more insufferable.
This killer needs to be reworked.
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Get everyone to P3.
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Freddy with Huntress Lullaby, Overcharge, Unnerving Presence and Distressing. I call it the Wake the ######### up build. Thinking of replacing Distressing with Discordance.
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See, this is why I laugh at salty players. Some of the funniest ######### you'll ever read.
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I heard rumours that if BT user gets hit, it'll immediately end the Endurance timer for the hooked survivor.
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@Vietfox said:
@Mc_Harty
The main reason why i almost never watch youtubers or streamers is because ruins the part of discovering the game. I'm not saying i've never done it, but just for a few minutes when i'm too tired to play but still want to watch something.
Sure you can get good advises and stuff but i kinda feel i learn more if i learn it by myself.True. The only reason I started to watch these kinds of videos was in case I miss something that I couldn't learn by myself. I'm not a perfect killer/survivor, so I just kinda study these streamers. Fungoose from Twitch and ScottJund/DamnnoHTML on Youtube were a big help. But most of the stuff I've learnt was from my own experiences.
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@Vietfox said:
@Unnamed_Freak
Lol that's total BS, and that guy still has followers?Honestly, I doubt people wouldn't mind so much about his ######### tier list if he didn't always have this I'm right, your wrong attitude. It's ######### infuriating. Main reason I've stopped watching him a year ago.
Now I watch Fungoose.
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I would rather hold the space bar to give up. Sick of the button spam.
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@AlexAnarchy said:
Then explain how do the devs will fix a killer stopping chase?If they put it on his TR then survivors can abuse his TR or legion can just use insidious, the worst part about this issue is there really is no fixing it unless the devs do exactly what they already said they would, which is make it legion won't have to moonwalk for downs, which simply means, more buffs to legion.
Or a ######### rework.
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Hit then moonwalk
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- Freddy rework
- Legion rework
- Map / audio fixes
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@Dreamnomad said:
No matter how many times you repeat yourself, won't make it true. Perhaps our problem is that we define the word exploit differently. To me, when you are talking about an exploit in a video game, you are referring to a cheat. You are doing something wrong. Unintended and wrong are two different things.exploit
verb
verb: exploit; 3rd person present: exploits; past tense: exploited; past participle: exploited; gerund or present participle: exploiting
- make full use of and derive benefit from (a resource).
- make use of (a situation) in a way considered unfair or underhand.
My definitions are fine.
We can all agree that they didn't intend for Legion to moonwalk stalk survivors. That, however, doesn't mean that it is wrong to do so. It is well within the mechanics of the game. No 3rd party software is involved. It isn't against the rules. Therefore it isn't an exploit.
By that logic, Infinites weren't an exploit as well. Just please stop defending broken mechanics. It's not going to go well for you.
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@Dreamnomad said:
The reason they said that isn't because moonwalking survivors is some sort of exploit. They said that because they don't feel like that should be the optimal way to play the killer. Which means they recognize that there is a somewhat fundamental flaw in the killers design if playing them backwards is optimal.
- It's only an exploit on Legion. Every other killer is fine.
- They clearly stated that they'll change things if the moonwalking is the only thing that'll work with Legion
- The developers clearly stated that it was not an intended mechanic.
- It goes completely against the whole concept of using the hit and run play-style the legion has.
It's still an exploit.
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Depression loves company
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@AlexAnarchy said:
please post where they stated this exactly?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AauEJmetASo50:37
McLean "We are aware of players that figured out how to follow players without triggering chase."
Cote "We've seen that. Obviously if that becomes... you know, it's always weird because then you'll go, 'oh, that was not the idea' and if this becomes the one way to really make the... then we're gonna make changes to make sure you're not gonna moonwalk towards people to make this work"
McLean "Because we do like when people figure out cool ways to do things we didn't think about. But if it becomes the only way-"
Cote "-Then its kinda dumb."
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Considering the devs state they'll change it if it becomes the norm... Yes, ab-#########-solutely.
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Just rework Legion. It'll be easier, since no one can agree how to buff him.
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I'm not sure if your calling him bait or just parodying people that react to him.
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I had a match that wasn't against Legion. That was nice... I'd love more of that.
Would play killer but my internet has been shitting itself for the past couple of days. -
3. The survivor perks are the only good thing about this DLC.
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Just genrush and don't bother healing. He's barely got any counterplay at all.
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@Delfador said:
LMAO that was great.Also most legions use bloodhound for just that method. I tried it myself, you have to be really dumb to actually lose the survivor and let them mend themselves.
People think that as long as you win the matches, it is fun to play but it really is not. Even though I win the matches against legion, he is my least favorite killer to play against. I prefer nurse any day.
Considering how Legions can't rely on scratch marks, bloods all they got really.
And yes, he's least favourite killer to play against also. I'd rather 100 hillbilly matches in a row then Legion.
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@Onionthing said:
Something like this.Hags got some sick moves considering how frail she is.
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@Rebel_Raven said:
Crazy question. Walking backwards, he can't see you, right?
Or am i missing a killer function?Yeah its called a blood trail
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@RotBb said:
Lightweight and urban evasion are complete counters to legion. Get a good distance while he’s stunned, crouton away. As long as you break line of sight, you’re good.What's the counterplay against a Legion walking backwards while chasing you?
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@RotBb said:
The game is fun if you use him right, using him right is like Nurse vs all rank twenty Dwights, he is good, you just need to learn him.But can I complain that he's ######### boring?
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@Delfador said:
Sounds fun, great designClearly better then Freddy.
You know, people ######### about the Nightmare but at least he has counterplay.
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@KingB said:
How should he be played?Walk backwards while chasing survivors.
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Can I say he's unfun? Boring? Poorly designed?
Or am I not allowed to want the game to be fun?
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@HellDescent said:
I'm pretty sure deep wound is 30 seconds without using addons, bt is 20 at tier 3
hitting 1 survivor +deep wound timer + the time it takes to go out of chase, pick up and hook = roughly 1 genHaven't heard anything about Deep Wound being 30 seconds. Either way, Legion needs a rework. He's just not good.
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@HellDescent said:
Even if you abuse the chase mechanic without frank's mix tape by the time the deep wound timer will go down a gen is gonna popI doubt that
It takes 20 seconds for the survivors to go down, while your abusing the chase mechanics. A generator takes around 80. If you have Ruin or found a survivor immediately, they are going to go down before 1 is even done.
But it doesn't matter anyway because he's so #########.
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@Ihatelife said:
And you can get to rank 1 without killing anyone
And people say that rank matters lol
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Can't down survivors fast, not skillful to use his power compared to Clown or Spirit which means he's less satisfying, his only counter is to just genrush and not waste any time healing and it's incredibly easy to abuse the chase mechanics just by moonwalking.
Just rework Legion. He's completely frustrating/underwhelming for everyone.
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@ScottJund said:
I will never understand how people non-ironically say walking around objects is an exploit.hurr the killer hitbox bigger auhhhh. You're also 15% faster than the person which means you're catching up way faster than they're getting away.
Welcome to the DBD forums where everything we don't like is an exploit.
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@Delfador said:
I don't think he thinks legion doesn't need buffs.
Nah, it's more along the lines of what could you buff that doesn't make him broken.
After looking at ScottJund new video about Legion, this new killer is completely against what DBD is about. He needs to be rework.
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@The_Crusader said:
Hes broken. Utterly broken.He needs to go back to the drawing board but knowing these devs, they'll probably keep adjusting his power rather then actually fix him.
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Considering how fast mending is, this is going to be a ######### pain.
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@Nokillerinozone said:
Looping isn't an option, neither is stealth after he hits someone, only has to hit you basically once then you'll go down eventually. Why tf is he considered so weak?- Can't down people as fast.
- Mending is too fast and doesn't stall the survivors enough.
- Survivors that are spread out completely makes his power useless.
- Can't see scratch-marks while using Frenzy so he's easy to juke around windows
- The only way to play him viably is to break chase and walk backwards, while chasing a survivor, which waste more time compared to any other killer.
- Is completely countered by not healing
- 110ms
Just to name a few.