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No money for BHVR anymore until they balance their game such that it can be called competitive.
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@KillingInstinct said:
@Master said:
360ing is even worse than pallets if you ask me. It should not possible in the game and I always facepalm when survivors talk about "juking" in their montages.I miss the old days when you actually juked the killer by breakign LOS, taking advantage of your 3rd person view.
Nowadays, you abuse 3rd person to loop the killer like an idiot and "juke" him with a 360 abuse of hitbox when he comes to close.just sad in my eyes.....
you do realize that 360 juking doesn't work anymore right? Or is at least harder... if u get juked by survivors right now then you just have to work on your killer gameplay
I disagree. In fact I experimeted with friends and e.g. the huntress axe can go right through the survivor while he is performing a 360. Also during 360ing the survivor hitboxes moves faster than it actually should and the survivor can teleport around/through the killer, ignoring his hitbox.
Still I miss the old days when breaking LOS was a thing. It was way more rewarding than the crap nowadays, but on some maps you cant even do anything than looping, its such a bullshit design if you ask me
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@slingshotsurvivor said:
Master said:you will always at least black pip if killer DCs
But you don't always...
you ALWAYS at least blackpip if the killer DCs.
There is a bug that it is shown as depip, but you still dont lose your rank. (known problem for ages, but devs are too lazy) -
@Nos37 said:
It would be great if there was an option in the settings that let me opt out of being spectated.On console, it's easy for a dead survivor to view the killer's profile, invite them to voice chat, and then tell them where survivors are hiding.
Or you can just use discord/ts like almost everyone in the game.
Yes, the game was designed for soloplayers, devs introduced SWF after that which completely breaks certain parts of the game. Yet they ignore those problems, kinda funny eh, guess everythign is fine as long as the money is flowing -
@quantoo said:
Why u guys ruined brand new part? 25% only? for a 7000 ultra rare addon? When a ultra rare from huntress or clow can kill you in 1 hit, and its not hard, and u guys just ruined the flashlight with the pickup speed increase, i have 1618 hour of gameplay and i can't even save someone from the killer grasp, its 2 in 10 timesBecause with BNP it was possible to finish a game in less than 3 minutes, that should be answer enough.
Iridescents reduce magazine size to 1, so you need to use it with the belt and you dont have any wind up addons, thus good loopers can avoid being hit.If you cant adapt after 1618 hours, then you are a hopeless case maybe. What do you mean with 2 in 10 times? So you say you actually saved someone with the flashlight? nice contradiction
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@Nantes said:
Barbecue & Chili is already plenty powerful and worth running without the BP gain effect; it really doesn't need it. One perk that desperately needs a lift though is Monstrous Shrine, possibly the most useless in the game for killers right now, since Bitter Murmur was buffed. It makes sense that the Entity would give extra rewards for killers bringing survivors to its special underground worship shrine!Maybe transferring the aura revealing effect over to MS instead could also work; in that case, the aura would have to be visible for much longer than usual, to compensate for the fact that basement hooking is rarer and that the killer takes time to climb the stairs back up.
Disclaimer: I'm a killer main who runs BBQ&C on almost all killers. So yes, I'm technically hurting myself with this suggestion, but it's for the good of balance.
I only use BBQ for the BP bonus and I guess most killers think like that.
Your suggestion would mean that a lot of those killers use monstrous shrine now and thi swould lead to exactly the opposite of what the devs intended with BBQ, it would lead to more campingWhat you dont understand is that without BBQ there is way less incentive to leave the hook. I realized when I prestiged some killers and didnt have BBQ. You cant simply leave a hook undefended if you dont have another target to chase at least
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@Zarathos said:
Hmm this is where you need to examine your killer preferences. Some killers handle these loops pretty poorly but some killers like doc and huntress can hit the survivor with a ranged attack to stun them or get a hit. Another is the clown who can slow them with his bottles. Personally I've been playing a lot of huntress and while these loops are still annoying I have a brief points in these chases where I can lob a hatchet and hit them going out the window.Try and keep the gens farther away from the barn from being completed so they will not have enough time to reach the cowshed.
I highly recommend hag after her buff now.
Immediately go to the main loops and trap them up. Once you find a survivor, they will use sprint burst to get to the super safe loops you already prepared, its so funny.... -
@Master said:
Eclipsed said:Sound like a whiny little runt looking for an excuse to be bad. Play the game how you want too. Don’t try to justify yourself being petty. “This is why we camp” Rofl, I can literally hook all 4 before the 2nd gen is even done. Sure, could be luck but I don’t care. Enjoy the game or don’t.
Eclipsed said:Sound like a whiny little runt looking for an excuse to be bad. Play the game how you want too. Don’t try to justify yourself being petty. “This is why we camp” Rofl, I can literally hook all 4 before the 2nd gen is even done. Sure, could be luck but I don’t care. Enjoy the game or don’t.
Eclipsed said:ïSound like a whiny little runt looking for an excuse to be bad. Play the game how you want too. Don’t try to justify yourself being petty. “This is why we camp” Rofl, I can literally hook all 4 before the 2nd gen is even done. Sure, could be luck but I don’t care. Enjoy the game or don’t.
Proof or it never happens, oh low rank doesn't count btw
Pretty good job forum, I'm not gonna delete this mess on my phone
Still no proof?
Thanks for proving that you only trastalked -
Rank up your killer to some higher rank, then you will see how "impossible" a flashlight save is
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Well if the survivors are too bad to hit the overcharge skillcheck, then yeah, you will have an easy win^^
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360ing is even worse than pallets if you ask me. It should not possible in the game and I always facepalm when survivors talk about "juking" in their montages.
I miss the old days when you actually juked the killer by breakign LOS, taking advantage of your 3rd person view.
Nowadays, you abuse 3rd person to loop the killer like an idiot and "juke" him with a 360 abuse of hitbox when he comes to close.just sad in my eyes.....
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An example for what?
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@jiyeonlee said:
@Orion said:
The Nurse was already nerfed several times. She is how all Killers should be: a character with a high skill ceiling, capable of good map presence and ending chases quickly, and is primarily countered by stealth.idk, is theres hard things to do like snapsaw? and dbd have breating sound
if youre nurse main and not even goes rank1 in current floods..its terrible to see you in here balance sectionGood luck hearing someone breath while the chase music is trying to deafen you. Since they messed up with the sound system, I never hear survivors breath anymore and yes I am using quite expensive headphones.
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You are rewarded for losing the killer, not for looping him.
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I dont think that somethign like this is necessary. The issue we currently have is how ranking works and how matchmaking takes the ranks of a SWF into account
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@BillCosby said:
@GT_Legend2 said:
@Hillbilly420 Yeah I’m with ya, just the ability to instantly heal in DBD is pretty absurdI agree, but let's also remove Iridescent head
Yeah wind up has been removed, nwo remove iri heads to completely make huntress dissapear. Since the patch, I have played a single time against her.....
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@Helimatra said:
@Master said:
@Helimatra said:
@HurzelSchnurzel said:
when you are playing in full SWF group and still need DS.... oh right, ochido fangirl, that might explain it...SWF can't do anything against campers/tunnelers destrike can when gates are open, saved me alot of times
also why does being an ochido fan has anything to do this with?It can, take camping for example. The guy on the hook easily spreads the information when the killer is moving away so that someone can come for a save. Also, it doesnt happen that multiple survivors go for the same unhook which is a massive time advantage for survivors
Yes we try that everytime, unfortunatly 9/10 times fail cus it just kills us all cus of the hard camp and tunnel
How is that possible?
You are telling your friends via discord/ts that you are camped, still they throw themselves at the hook and die in that way? Thats your fault then, dont blame the killer for your own stupiditiy -
If you can't have fun playing a weak survivor that the killer wants to kill, then this is definitely the wrong game for youwweAndito said:How should i do if i found a camper, tunnel and patroller killer on game? Because in every single match i play, me and my friend always found a camper, tunnel and patroller. And that is make we can't enjoy this game well. We know developer nerf the timing of flashlight but not yet do something about camper, tunnel and patrol.
We are so mad if found a killer had a face camper, because if we will unhooked other survivor the killer grab that survivor. And other survivor will unhooked them, the killer put down the survivor who he carry and grab survivor who want to unhooked their friend.
You can reduce the timing of killer blind using flashlight, absolutely yes you can nerf the camper, tunnel and patrol.
Thx for it.
But maybe you try playing as killer, this way u didn't waste the money at least -
The only scary killer is jumpscare myers against a non-SWF or a good nurse scaring you with her actual power.
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@Touken said:
So i wanna know how is it possible to adapt as a new survivor if you keep getting camped?Also aren't the killers too op for noob survivors basically moving noob killer up and down between ranks because they arent good too?
ps.Im not new im just a bad at the game, im more of a killer main (rank 13 huntress) so i know how you most killers think but im not sure i can agree with most of it
Try to play more stealthy, a 100% camper will then camp someone else and you will be free to do gens and escape.
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@bruhtrain said:
To all killers what’s your reason to camp? (I camp when all gens are done, both exit gates are open)When both exits are open, I dont camp, I just wait in front of the hook that the game ends.
If gens pop too quick, I will use a hooked survivor as bait.
If I am versing an overalutristic SWF, you know whats gonna happenbasically, camping during the game is just a mindgame. You gotta estimate whether it works against the current group of survivors
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@CookieBaws said:
@CallMeRusty420 said:
@Master said:
I agree, nurse shouldnt be able to get more than 3 blinks in my opinion. But honestly, I rarely see anyone using more blinks.T. Thats why I suggest to introduce casual mode for SWF and ranked mode for solo only.
Here is your medal for a good idea.
On paper - yes.
In action 90% of killers will never touch casual, like at all.
Because dispite tag casual, SWF WILL tryhard and even more troll squads appear because no loss of progress.
SWF queue will be dead in no time.As I said, additional BP for killers willing to be bullied
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@Chrona said:
@Master said:
Now guess what killers have to do
Also they cant reduce the hooks considering that DS, flashlights, pallets and bodyblocking are strategies to deny hooks.
Its funny, but when I run a slugging strategy, it always pisses the survivors of so much. Do you prefer that instead of a lot of hooks? Because this is gonna happen if you deny the killer the possibility to hook, no they are not gonna try to hook everytime just that you wiggle/DS off
Balance is hard :P But I don't think DS, flashlight, and pallets are reasonable arguments against the amount of hooks. Yes, those let the person escape, but, A, DS is essentially going to trigger regardless, plus it is one time. It's a near ensured one-time escape in exchange for a perk slot. Flashlights? I've only seen successful flashlight stuns like, 3 times. Total. On both sides. And Pallet drop for a survivor escape? Once. And ONLY because the survivor happened to go down in the middle of a pallet and a survivor was close. (The killer was not amused).
Bodyblocking.....eh. No comment.
And yes, if you run a sabo squad, you could do that....But who would, really? And realistically, it would only be really possible in a SWF group, which people already hate to a very high degree.
Either way, you can't deny what happened in my picture is a tad insane.
Also, a suggestion I have is to have a maximum number of hooks be capable of being broken/removed from the game. I don't know how many hooks (basement notwithstanding) normally spawn in a game, but my thought is this: the amount cannot be reduced by more than 5. To me, that means, if 4 people burn the hook reduction offering, there can only be one hook fully sabotaged: the moment a 6th hook is sabotaged, the 5th one respawns, similar to the hag's traps. One the other hand, if you run sabotage and no one burns those offerings, you could break 5 hooks permanently, and the 6th one you break causes the first to respawn. This would act as a functional buff to sabotage, while not creating the kinds of insanity I heard happened with it in the early stages of the game's life.
Well you must be playing at rank 20 if you have ever seen only 3 flashlight saves, thats kinda pathetic.
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@Sally55 said:
@EpicFailTryHard said:
did this change again? 2 hooked once and one hooked three times. 3 escape. lose a pip?I don't think it changed. I think atleast a 3k match is either a pip or a safety.
You can actually pip with 0 kills, 2 hooking everyone and you can blackpip with a 4k. Kinda pathetic, isnt it?^^
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@Might_Oakk said:
@Master said:
Well NOED is a counter of genrush.
Of course you can genrush and ignore totems, but then you will have to risk being instadowned. Btw you were injured already, so it didnt matter in your clipSo I guess you missed the entire point of the thread.
Why is a killer that terrible in the red ranks? Wouldn't he be better off between r10 and r15 where he can play survivors at his skill level?
I'm a killer main and he wasted the whole match following me. Trash killers rely on NOED, get ranked to high, and then complain the game is to hard.
Pressure is the counter to gen rush but if you're that bad you can't create any pressure so need to rely on a boosted crutch perk.
Because ranks dont mean anything. Anyone with sligth experience can reach rank 1 easily by investing enough time. Oh and btw, its way easier to reach high rank as survivor, then bad killers play aganist bad high rank survivors and rank up this way.
The core problem is that the devs implemented pips as a padding ont he shoulder that you did well. Thats just not what competitive game should be, but whatever.
I guess he was a new killer and will never again try to rank up after he has been bullied a few SWF.
You cant create any pressure against good survivors that dont do mistakes while looping, thats literally the core issue of the game (except nurse)
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@SovererignKing said:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j9dM4oNPA18Ruin OP, please nerf. It’s not fair that it takes less than 6 minutes to Rush Gens, it should only take less than 5 minutes.
It already takes less than 5 mins, ive seen games from the depip squad I wont forget^^
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Emblem system hasnt changed.
But well 1 kill is not enough I guess, probably gens went too fast too -
It is called waving their hands
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I agree
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@Helimatra said:
@HurzelSchnurzel said:
when you are playing in full SWF group and still need DS.... oh right, ochido fangirl, that might explain it...SWF can't do anything against campers/tunnelers destrike can when gates are open, saved me alot of times
also why does being an ochido fan has anything to do this with?It can, take camping for example. The guy on the hook easily spreads the information when the killer is moving away so that someone can come for a save. Also, it doesnt happen that multiple survivors go for the same unhook which is a massive time advantage for survivors
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@rObLoCo said:
I think that if you hit #1 you should be awarded 2000 shards and 1 million BP what does everyone think?Probably a good fix for the meantime, before they implement leaderboards/seasonal rewards.
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Well NOED is a counter of genrush.
Of course you can genrush and ignore totems, but then you will have to risk being instadowned. Btw you were injured already, so it didnt matter in your clip -
@KingArthanal said:
@Master said:
The forum is completely separated from the steam account.In the steam forum this would have been a more reasonable idea
yes but it wouldnt be impossible to bond it to your acc here.
If they force-bond your steam account, then this would literally kill this forum, trust me. (is pretty dead already anyway)
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No
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@facundoj said:
Master said:@nooxet said:
Gen tapping is a strategy even devs are fine with it. But is it worth it I mean you complete the gen so much slower than doing it normally hitting those hex skillchecks.
Funny that gen tapping is a strategy, but juggling wasnt considered a strategy, but rather an exploit such that the devs fixed it.
You can still juggle. In fact, I recommend you to do it against DS, if you can.
You cant, the wiggle meter fills so the survivor gets a free escape after the 4th juggle and still has DS. Before they introduced that, you were able to juggle as much as you want
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Im not gonna comment on this one, you are a hopeles case
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The game is not balanced around SWF, it was designed for solo survivors only
If you dont want survivors to abuse voicecomms gaining an unfair advantage, you can dodge them in lobby. Sadly the devs are working really slowly so I dont expect that they adress all the SWF issues anytime soon (if at all) -
@FrenziedRoach said:
From one smalltime streamer to another, do yourself a favor and take the TTV out of your name if your using it.My life got 5X easier in this game when I took it off while playing survivor.
There are a lot of people who dislike streamers in this community for various petty and stupid reasons. If you play this to advertise your stream, you're in the wrong game - go find something else.
Not being rude - just telling the truth of the situation.
From my own experience playing as killer, about 99% of twitchtv survivors are toxic AF, so I simply avoid them now, Claim whatever you want, that you are a special case or sth, I only talk about my own experience playing against your kind^^
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Thats what they told me too. If the survivor knows how to loop, you have to switch target and look for the noob.
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@SovererignKing said:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j9dM4oNPA18Less than 6 minute Gen Rushes are also amazing. Thrilling gameplay.
At least they didnt spawn on your totem
Also playing killer with controller.... damn I feel with you^^ -
The forum is completely separated from the steam account.
In the steam forum this would have been a more reasonable idea
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Myers
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Rumors state that on console the framerate is measured in SPF (seconds per frame)
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@AndyMXM said:
Even if it lasts 30 seconds, you can secure a few hooks that will guarantee you a 4kDecisive is broken as well.
How about you remove or rework both of those perks so nobody uses them? I feel like games would be much more fun without them.
Within 30 sec you dont even hit a survivor, but ok dude
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@Jeeperrs said:
I stopped playing DBD after update, its now unplayable as survivor now. Tunneling killers, camping killers, God Mode for killers, they made it not fun for survivors and probably now killers now the main focus of game. DC this game everyone.God help. The killer is trying to kill us, how is that fair.
If you cant play as surivor anymore, try killer instead
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@Vietfox said:
Twix said:Tunneling Hillbilly that abuses Tinkerer 2 bug - I play the game to have fun, and getting tunneled by a Tinkerer 2 abuser is not under what I classify as fun, so is my dc justified, what do you guys think?
Ofc it is, and everyone should do the same since exploiters aren't getting banned. I don't care if they get the BP for survivors' dc, i play for fun.
@Twix said:
@Tsulan said:
Master said:What exctly is the tinkerer 2 thing about?
And no dcig just because of tunneling is not justifiedIf survivors do a gen to 99% while the killer has tinkerer. His terror radius stays at 0. So survivors are shooting themselves into the foot by using this tactic.
I don't use tinkerer, because I don't want to be accused of abusing a bug, when survivors cause it.
It triggers when you get a gen to 85% of completion, not when you leave a gen at 99%, so basically as soon as the first gen gets to 85% even if it pops the killer will have 0 terror radius for the rest of the match.
So the killer doesnt even do anything? How is this an exploit then?
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@nooxet said:
Gen tapping is a strategy even devs are fine with it. But is it worth it I mean you complete the gen so much slower than doing it normally hitting those hex skillchecks.Funny that gen tapping is a strategy, but juggling wasnt considered a strategy, but rather an exploit such that the devs fixed it.
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@Helimatra said:
@OxyReap said:
You perfectly know all killers hate DS cause you chased a survivor for 10m and after that, he just hit a skillcheck and can go for free. So thank you for sharing, i'll use it too.Anyway, it will get reworked soon, so don't worry about that.
99% of destrike users do this yes, but not me i only use it as a last resort. I just hope they are gonna fix more bugs soon
DS is getting a complete rework, not a bug fix. So they dont actually need to invest resources to fix that bug since soon its gonna be completely different. But I guess once DS has been changed, ur not gonna use it anymore^^
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@Helimatra said:
@Hillbilly420 said:
@Helimatra said:
@Hillbilly420 said:
@Helimatra said:
@Hillbilly420 said:
@Helimatra said:
I hit destrike, the killer swang an attack in the air. I hit DS, didn't get off, lost my destrike. Can you please make time to fix this? This is not cool and too many people try to use this exploid. I hope you make time to fix this issues wich i believe is really important.Here is a clip:
I'm very pissed about this. Devs when are you gonna fix this? and stop putting effort in buffing killers fix your longer problems. Anyone know how i can get this clip to the devs?
https://clips.twitch.tv/SplendidUglyGrassDatBoiimage of people for reference:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/403205308291350528/473130690062581778/exploit.pngOh, you have to swing exactly one second after picking up the douchebag using DS? I always thought it was two seconds. Thanks, your video has helped.
@xxaggieboyxx said:
Just saying this shouldn't be in balance feedback probably the bug sectionIs it a bug or is it strategy?
Please don't be one of those people please.
Also juggling used to lose ur DS but not anymore, i'm fine with juggling if i just don't lose DS cus that is just BS. This is a bug the devs know about but just don't want to fix cus it nerfs the killer a tiny bit. They'd rather buff the killer constantly and ruin the game for survivors, that's how i feel.So sad to see so many toxic people. Why can't we all just play the game and have fun, why do toxic people have to ruin such a good game. So sad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL8e2ujXe8gSeriously, no one gives a god damn that a streamer playing with an SWF squad didn't get their Decisive. Go cry somewhere else. If you're hoping for thirsty dumbshits to give a god damn about you because you're a chick then you're ######### out of luck.
BTW: your voice is cancer. If I see you in my lobby I am for sure bringing out a Mori and face camping you.
You clearly don't know me at all. But ohwell thanks for the constructive criticism
Of course we dont know you, we only have a few seconds of insight in your stream, but you didnt show yourself from your best side
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@Helimatra said:
@Master said:
@Helimatra said:
@Master said:
Usually I dodge. Experience has shown that games with twitchtv survivors are not fun, so I dont play those
I'm one of the streamers that is not a salty player I just want to play the game fair, I try to be as positive as i can but this just did it for me, this is just not fun and it's not fair. These kinds of things are breaking the game and let toxic people rule their game.
You say you are a positive streamer, trying to be fair?
At the same time you are using DS..... in the clip it also is obvious that you play SWF, probably the MOST broken thing in the game.Destrike doesnt make a person toxic, with all these changes to fck survivors you can't flashlight anymore with the fast picking up the only way to survive is with destrike and I suck at juking so yes destrike helps me and no it doesnt make me toxic. I always use DS on last hook or when the gate is open. This nurse tunneled me so hard i was already on last hook. So it does not make me toxic but you clearly are a killer main. I play SWF to play with viewers who enjoy playing with friends and to give people the joy to play with others.
Thats something everyone has to decide for themselves.
In my opinion, using DS and abusing voice comms as in your clip is just as toxic as camping is. (yes I play survivor too)Sure, both is allowed in the game, but that doesnt make it better in my opinion
There are streamers who play SWF with viewers and DONT use voice comms, I have nothing against that.
But in your clip one of your viewers gives away killers loadout after he died and that was only what happened during the "exploit"