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  • Good luck with your dumb idea
  • Ok so she died in her sleep right? correct me if im wrong but dont woman sometimes like to sleep naked? So she died like that then at least be grateful that she has stuff covering her parts. EDIT: its seems that most female streamers are ok with how the spirit looks 

    P.S nobody cares what feminist have to say
  • Camping for me its only done by toxic killers who cant play normally I only had a problem with looping once but i never faced it often. some killers just camp to be ######### and survivor are toxic for no reason so unless both sides are satisfied this game will always be toxic
  • @RSB look at his first comment
  • Giche said:

    @Touken

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    Thankfully he didn't got a chance to see one of them IRL.

    That's why i chose the word "SEXUAL HARASSER".

    But seeing how old were his usual victims, we can assume the pedophile label too.

    And toxicity in-game and after need to be adressed, not promoted by mofo like him.

    ok then there you go idc what u call him except for something he is not, So he is not a ######### nor a molester
  • @Giche Show me the proof that shows that he is a ######### and not just a pedo because ive seen does videos and i see nothing about him ######### someone
  • @Giche Im defending him from being called something that hasn't been proven for example what if i call you a ######### do i have proof NO and plus even if he goes away toxicity will always be there
  • @fakelover I can understand why people call him a pervert and stuff but can you give me proof that he molested or raped somebody if no shut up
  • @AnIntellectualClone said:
    I would like to see him try being toxic with a controller.

    he is using a keyboard on ps4. pretty fair

    You cant though? Trust me if it were possible i would of done it already
  • @MrChills said:

    @RSB said:

    @MrChills said:

    @RSB said:

    @MrChills said:

    @RSB said:

    @Touken said:
    Who else dosent mind Ochido in PS4? Like ik he is toxic and all but admit it the community itself is toxic, Ochido is just part of it, he was good in pc and everyone hated it just because he was toxic but if he wasnt people would be like oh he is very good,

    ps. some killers are saying he is trash is PS4 its not like you can get used to playing something new in a day

    He is the essence of toxicity in this community, and the main source of it. The day he die, the sun will start shining again.

    And by the way he is a pedophile, I wish him the worst.

    Hmm. when did this occur? can I have source please?

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    Ardetha deleted the videos with evidence, because it contained fragments of ochido's videos, shame.

    But it was like that:
    He was inviting underage girls to chat with him privately on Whatts App, or something similiar, was acting nice, then, when he gained their trust, he was aking for nudes. When they said, they are just children, he did not give a [BAD WORD], and insisted on getting those nudes. When they refused, he started to harrass them, insult etc.

    One of them provided proofs (screenshots of the chat), and posted it on his discord chat, which has been deleted after it by a said pedophile. Ardetha got those proofs, and made 2 videos with more evidence of the behaviour of ochido. He harrassed many girls, not just 5 or 10, it was a big number.

    He is just a pedo on a power trip, he thinks he can do everything he wants, hurt children and people, without being punished.

    how old were they? In't he from Europe? In Europe 16 is fair game. Doesn't matter your age. If they were below his country standards than yes very disturbing.

    One was 13/14 for sure, do not know about the rest. He is from Spain, if I am correct.

    "Spain is to raise the age of consent from 13 to 16 and the minimum age for marriage from 14 to 16. The change was agreed unanimously in principle by parliament in 2009 under the previous government and is expected to come into force this month."

    Not sure if it was raised recently yet if it was then it's still a big culture change and I do not condone his person hobbies yet if the change was recent and depending how long this was in their culture, it will take a while for some of the population to adjust especially if this is common in their culture aka grand parents, parents did it. People tend to forget the old world and new world are still very very different places.

    Age of consent was 13 in Spain??? And 16 year olds could get married???

    Where is it? Ah there's my NOPE button!

    Button Pressing intensifies

    Dude if you want to change it then try to
  • Master said:

    @Touken said:
    To me its is a clutch perk because if the killer was bad and could only hit a survivor once then they get a chance to get a survivor, so yea its a clutch perk

    Theoretically I agree. However gerush happens not because the killer is bad, it happens because survivor decide to do it.

    The only way they can nerf supposedly "gen rush" is by lowering the progress you get from skillchecks or increase the time it takes abit

    and survivor decide to do it because what else are they going to do while one of them is getting chased just stand still no they are going to their objective which is to do gens
  • To me its is a clutch perk because if the killer was bad and could only hit a survivor once then they get a chance to get a survivor, so yea its a clutch perk
  • another cry thread about something that's not going to be punished cuz they just want to abuse the punishemnt.

    Oh its the same dude who has nothing to say except for the same thing if ur not going to discuss stuff then leave 
  • Orion said:

    @Touken said:
    So taking a,hit to save your teamate is a mechanical bug huh its seem normal to me teamates trying to help a teamate whats wrong with that?

    Blocking the "hook" prompt is an exploit, just like removing the "unhook" prompt (AKA: face camping) was an exploit that got removed.

    Explain to me how is it an exploit?
  • iceman2kx said:

    If they are doing that, I will drop the survivor I'm carrying and face camp whoever is doing that. I don't care how salty they get, they are using a mechanical bug against you and they know it. I honestly try to play by the "rules", but if I am playing considerately then I expect the same treatment in return.

    So taking a,hit to save your teamate is a mechanical bug huh its seem normal to me teamates trying to help a teamate whats wrong with that?
  • Soulus said:
    New killer here, hi how are you nice to meet you, went up the ranks pretty fast to 13 then I got to the point where survivors had no fear anymore. It was less I'm the killer and stay away and more to circle around and more the victim. I hit a wall and didn't know what to do so I started camping, I couldn't stop myself, it was either that or just watch generators light up left and right while the most artful dodger with 2 perks more than me baits me. And the if I go after the ones doing the gens wait until they I have struck them once to leave, then are instantly unhooked once I go for more. If I wait I see 2 hanging in the trees waiting to unhook one, so I camp and get 3 or hunt and have fun but possibly get none because of survivor experience. Also been to many trials where survivors walk right up get hooked then try to die, so expert survivors are ruining this game.
    Like you said your new you've got get used to it and be more strategic im a rank 9 huntress ive been playing the game for along time and when i get faced against expert survivors then if cant get them then its my fault for not being good
  • Kilrane said:
    Touken said:
    Kilrane said:
    Yes, that's what camping is. Counter plays are answers to win a situation. If a Killer camps one Survivor the entire hook time that is your opportunity to do gens uninterrupted. This game's name is "Dead by Daylight" not "Everyone Live in the End". Sometimes sacrificing a team member is the proper play.

    So how would you feel if every game or almost all the time you get camped how would you feel to keep de piping because you dont get enough points and dont say oh you just have to get good because you cant if you keep getting chased at the beggining and you cant be stealthy because that rarely works
    If being stealthy doesn't work for you, you're missing perks and not doing right or just not doing it right. I depip all the time as a Killer vs extremely coordinated and optimal Survivors. It does not seem like you have a lot of play time with Killer. You should level one to 50 or a few to 40 so you have better perspective on how to be a better Survivor. 
    Im a rank 9 prestige two huntress and im kinda good at jucking the killer i never teabag unless the killer is camping and i myself never camp nor tunnel so i do play killer alot. The thing is people keep saying be stealthy welp what about the perks that you need during chases or to help your teamates, I use borrowed time when the killer is camping but gets distracted, dead hard to avoid a hit and keep the chase going adrenaline to heal during a chase, self care  speaks for its self so i cant add sneaky perks because if i do i will go down in chases faster Tbh when i tried using stealth perks i would always get seen by the killer then a chase starts then i go down faster

    @holywhitetrash not all survivors are toxic and not all killers are campers, survivors tend to be toxic for no reason killers tend to camp for no reason sometimes
  • Skemooo said:

    @Grimzy said:

    Well...in all honesty doesnt that just basically mean its the killers own fault if he wastes 30+ sec chasing 1 single person?

    or you could show me your rank 1 freddy plays vs rank1s? it tkaes more than a minute to even score a single hit as freddy vs good survivors. unless your blessed with a good map they will just run pallet to pallet.. the only way you get them is to corner them in one spot and blood lust them and pray that thier team mates doesnt block your path to force you to cancel blood lust 

    Then he  need a buff but not to be immune to DS
    killers complain about DS because they dont want to chase a survivor again because they cry too much as a rank 9 killer DS is never a problem and i bet in rank 1 it will still be the same and killers keep chasing survivors cause there dumb if you cant get them ignore them and go for the others the game isnt for killers to get 4k almost all the time

  • @Touken a teammate that doesn’t know how to unhook safely. 

    unhook safely when the survivor is getting camped or the killer comes back and goes for you theres no way to be safe unless the killer is chading someone else
  • @Touken said:
    Master said:

    @Touken said:

    Thatbrownmonster said:

    I allready did MM with that perk
    
    when I reach evil within 3 it was the best experience ever!
    
    I played MM as it all ways was supposed to!
    

    bruh dude get good at the game and stop using bugs

    Thats the issue with playing killer. You can reach a point where the game doesnt allow you to do signtificantly better anymore because of the mechanics (at least non-nurse,billy,huntress)

    Yea just like a survivors when they get camped and tunneld

    Lmao be quiet. Tunneling doesn't exist and camping is a valid strategy in most situations it is used. (The only time I don't think camping is valid is when it's facecamping on the first hook or something similar to that situation.) If you wanna debate, go for it. But this is a conversation about Tinkerer 2, not for you to complain about how your ePiC sKiLl was destroyed because a guy hit you when you got off the hook.

    if tunneling isnt a thing then what do you call getting chased when u get unhooked?
  • Touken said:
    Touken said:
    Welp if you just want to be a dick and not give a survivor a chance then go ahead but if you can win a game without camping nor tunneling then you are a good killer and a good person if you cant then ur bad and need to practice more
    Welp, if you want to be a dick and not give the Killer a chance then go ahead and Loop. If you can win a game without Looping then you’re a good Survivor and a good person. If you can’t then your bad and need to practice LoS jukes and hiding more.
    Hiding huh stealth has been gone since the leatherface update and yea not all survivors are good at jucking just how some killers arent always good at killing so they camp so why do survivors loop to not get camp or tunneled oh what would you guys call chasing a survivor who just got unhooked?

    You say it’s gone because you want an excuse. It’s not gone, it’s harder to pull off, but it’s still there. If they aren’t good at jukes, that’s their own fault. Most of all when they don’t equip perks that help them juke. You’re not exactly even trying when you refuse to equip Iron Will, Quick and Quiet, Calm Spirit, ect. You’ll slap on your “Stalling Perks” meta of DS/BT/SC/SB. None of which help you hide or Juke. 

    I’ve been bored as of late myself. I bought the bright white outfit on Meg and use No Mither, We’ll Make It, Urban Evasion, and Iron Will. I still win 5/10 games, which isn’t bad. I’m at Rank 3 by the way. Survivors Loop like crazy because they are bad at being sneaky and tricky. They want the game mechanics to do all the work for them, that way they don’t have to think. They don’t have to plan preemptively and anticipate the Killer. They just run and let the game do the work for them. 

    Its called being tunneled. The Killer has every right to. You screwed up and got found and caught in the first place. It’s not fair at all, and that’s the point. It’s not supposed to be fair. It’s balanced by the fact while the Killer is busy with you, the rest of your team has free reign to do whatever the hell they want on the map. If you can’t get away, that’s your fault. Learn to lose the Killer so he has to go after someone else. If he decides to camp you out, tough luck. Sucks to be you. At least take solace in the fact your team (hopefully) used the time wisely and pounded out the gens. If they didn’t, that’s on them. 

    This is an asymmetrical game. It’s not fair, but balanced. Don’t complain it’s “not fair” when you pick the side where it’s not *supposed* to be fair.
    So your supposed to get camped almost every game making the game boring and just accept it? ######### that 
  • Master said:

    @Touken said:
    Thatbrownmonster said:

    I allready did MM with that perk

    when I reach evil within 3 it was the best experience ever!

    I played MM as it all ways was supposed to!

    bruh dude get good at the game and stop using bugs

    Thats the issue with playing killer. You can reach a point where the game doesnt allow you to do signtificantly better anymore because of the mechanics (at least non-nurse,billy,huntress)

    Yea just like a survivors when they get camped and tunneld
  • Touken said:
    Welp if you just want to be a dick and not give a survivor a chance then go ahead but if you can win a game without camping nor tunneling then you are a good killer and a good person if you cant then ur bad and need to practice more
    Welp, if you want to be a dick and not give the Killer a chance then go ahead and Loop. If you can win a game without Looping then you’re a good Survivor and a good person. If you can’t then your bad and need to practice LoS jukes and hiding more.
    Hiding huh stealth has been gone since the leatherface update and yea not all survivors are good at jucking just how some killers arent always good at killing so they camp so why do survivors loop to not get camp or tunneled oh what would you guys call chasing a survivor who just got unhooked?

  • @Chrona But what if you dont have space for that perk because I already have 4 perks that are necese@Chrona me I used Adrenaline, BT, DH,and self care
    in camping Comment by Touken
  • Kilrane said:
    Yes, that's what camping is. Counter plays are answers to win a situation. If a Killer camps one Survivor the entire hook time that is your opportunity to do gens uninterrupted. This game's name is "Dead by Daylight" not "Everyone Live in the End". Sometimes sacrificing a team member is the proper play.

    So how would you feel if every game or almost all the time you get camped how would you feel to keep de piping because you dont get enough points and dont say oh you just have to get good because you cant if you keep getting chased at the beggining and you cant be stealthy because that rarely works
    in camping Comment by Touken
  • I actually never had a problem with decisive strike tbh neither with sprint burst before the update
  • Hey @RBS you actually never gave me answers you just complained about ochido  and how i was just a fanboi and that i needed experience
  • RSB said:

    @Touken said:
    RSB said:

    @Touken said:

    When in tf did i say you were a pedo tf creep

    You are indeed #########. Next!

    Oh wow im good at a game ik everything about it ik so much about the game that anything i say is right because ik everything about game

    thats basically you @RSB

    And I'm immature here?

    If you think a whining survivor like you know something about this game, then you are wrong. In every competitive game you need an experience to know the balance, flaws in the game etc. But here comes little you, whining about things you do not understand and playing a smart kid. Grow a pair.

    So playing the game is not called experience? playing both survivor and killer is mot experience ok mr.######### you can ######### off now
  • @Touken said:
    Dr_Trauts said:

    ...clown is balanced, just learn how to play against him like every other killer

    Could you plz answer my questions? So have you faced a clown? Do you know how fast he can catch up to you? even without his atonics? I kinda know how to juke the clown  a bit but it's only temporary.

    Alright, so answer your question yes i have faced many clowns and yes i do know how fast he can catch up to you considering i got to rank 1 with him, so i think i know a thing or two about him. That being said, i know its clear that he has a lot of flaws with his strengths, when facing capable survivors who knew how to play against him, i found they were able to "bait" bottle throws and run off instead of sticking with the first loop they came across. Forcing me to refill my bottle supply, slowing me down. Without his toxins he is a regular M1 killer who is able to be looped etc. until he refills (when he does this then run away, don't stay at the loop). So yeah, as i said previously, he is a balanced killer as when you know how to play against him, it is relatively simple to out-play him, especialy with some of the clutch survivor perks. Have you ever played the clown? :). but thats my perspective on it

    Rn im saving shards so im probably going to get him to try him out ill see his prospective and then ill tell you my response

    You see this discussion @RSB its very mature because he is giving me the answers that i wanted and not being a ######### like you
  • RSB said:

    @Touken said:
    When in tf did i say you were a pedo tf creep

    You are indeed #########. Next!

    Oh wow im good at a game ik everything about it ik so much about the game that anything i say is right because ik everything about game

    thats basically you @RSB
  • When in tf did i say you were a pedo tf creep
  • dude whatever ima go play some games and not be an immature ######### like you who picks on little kids because he is so sad and has nothing else to do
  • first of all dude i dont have to ask forgiveness from an imature ######### and i do play play killer alot its just that im not good but ik what killers complain about and i have no problem with the stuff that they complain about

  • RSB said:

    @Touken said:
    If your an adult then why are acting like a kid and not acting more mature, second of all i do play the game alot and im a rank 11 huntress main so i did play more than 10 games and call his audience whatever you want anybody would say your just a hater and yes im a rank 13 survivor but i play with my rank 1 friends everyday so ik how its feel facing rank 1 clowns 

    Yeah, and I have an aero plane in my garage, would you believe it? R13 must be very hard, especially hard when it is new R18, right? You do not know nothing about the game, and you are a fanboy of the most toxic ######### on twitch, you are not better than him, and therefore a whining survboi. Thank you.


    Still being inmature and like i said i play with my rank 1 friends  i know how it feels to play against rank 1 killers and if you want proof i can tells you there gamer tags and just because i watched videos from a youtuber that im not subcribed to it makes me a fanboi
    and what are you an imaturebitch?
  • If your an adult then why are acting like a kid and not acting more mature, second of all i do play the game alot and im a rank 11 huntress main so i did play more than 10 games and call his audience whatever you want anybody would say your just a hater and yes im a rank 13 survivor but i play with my rank 1 friends everyday so ik how its feel facing rank 1 clowns 
  • Dr_Trauts said:

    ...clown is balanced, just learn how to play against him like every other killer

    Could you plz answer my questions? So have you faced a clown? Do you know how fast he can catch up to you? even without his atonics? I kinda know how to juke the clown  a bit but it's only temporary.
  • RSB said:

    @Touken said:
    RSB said:

    @Touken said:

    LRGamer said:

    brand2385 said:
    
    Can you please do something about the clowns movement speed or limit him to throwing tonics its really annoying trying to get away and he can still keep up with you without tonics and if he throws one at you its like a guarantee hit or down for him.
    
    
    
    
    
    So have you faced a clown? Do you know how fast he can catch up to you? even without his atonics? I kinda know how to juke the clown bits it's only temporary.
    

    ps. Ochido posted a video of him going against the clown and it showed  how hard it was to survive the clown

    ochicunt is the cancer of this community, and a noskill survivor being carried by his 12 year-old slaves.

    Bruh shut up dude your just jealous and plus how does he even get carried?  I also dont know what you mean the about him being the cancer of the community and plus you aren't even answering my questions

    You, children, are very susceptible influence. You want to be like your idols, you try to be like them, the cancers. You try to be toxic like them, you try to bully people, like them. When you grow up, and stop being bi-curious, go back here and apologise, as you, ochikids, like to say, PLEB DUUUUUUD.

    First of all I like his videos but im not a toxic survivor and so he cant say pleb and duuud because he got a good juke on the killer? and still not anwsering my questions
  • Soren said:
    Your idea is far to be new and in fact was already tested in a PTB a while ago ; results were atrocious: survivors exploited this in order to escape while keeping their teammate alive.

    Besides, you already have perks to counter camp : Kindred, Borrowed Time, Bond (for coop save). And since hook timer has been nerfed, it's even easier to fix all the gens while someone is camped. Camping might be boring, but it's also a very bad strategy most of the time and you can punish it easily by powering all the gens. Very often, serial campers are just beginners and will stop to do this as soon as they understand this isn't an effective strategy against good survivors.

    In rare occurences, camping can be the best strategy (doors powered, no survivor shown in Barbecue...) in order to win and you should probably play killer more to understand that you can't be "nice" everytime.
    First of all the killer can tunnel the survivor who got unhooked with borrowed time, kindred and bond only tell you where your teamates are.

    ps. i play alot of killer and when people get unhooked i always go for the person who unhooked the survivor and i never camp nor tunnel
  • Nikula699 said:
    Huntress And Nurse Are both pretty useless on console 
    Not true People practice and play alot as them especially me since i play the huntress alot in Console
  • Hey i play PS4 too and im a huntress main and all i got to say is that you have to practice not everybody can be good from the start


  • RSB said:

    @Touken said:
    LRGamer said:


    brand2385 said:

    Can you please do something about the clowns movement speed or limit him to throwing tonics its really annoying trying to get away and he can still keep up with you without tonics and if he throws one at you its like a guarantee hit or down for him.

    So have you faced a clown? Do you know how fast he can catch up to you? even without his atonics? I kinda know how to juke the clown bits it's only temporary.
    ps. Ochido posted a video of him going against the clown and it showed  how hard it was to survive the clown

    ochicunt is the cancer of this community, and a noskill survivor being carried by his 12 year-old slaves.


    Bruh shut up dude your just jealous and plus how does he even get carried?  I also dont know what you mean the about him being the cancer of the community and plus you aren't even answering my questions

  • LRGamer said:
    brand2385 said:

    Can you please do something about the clowns movement speed or limit him to throwing tonics its really annoying trying to get away and he can still keep up with you without tonics and if he throws one at you its like a guarantee hit or down for him.


    So have you faced a clown? Do you know how fast he can catch up to you? even without his atonics? I kinda know how to juke the clown bits it's only temporary.
    ps. Ochido posted a video of him going against the clown and it showed  how hard it was to survive the clown
  • Master said:

    @Touken said:
    Orion said:

    @Touken said:

    So are you saying that the killer should always atleast be able to get one survivor

    No, I'm saying that 1v1, the Killer is supposed to win.

    ok i get that but if the killer is supposed to always win a 1v1 then why do they camp when they can just go get another survivor in a 1v1

    This is a core issue in the game. It takes too much time to chase a competent survivor through all the loops, so some killers dont go through that trouble and just use the hooked guy as bait. It works surprisingly well, especially against SWF because they want to save their mates crying in discord

    It takes too long because you keep chasing even 
    though you know they are jucking the heck out of you
    in camping Comment by Touken
  • Kilrane said:
    Touken said:
    Orion said:

    Repair generators while the Killer is wasting their time and get out, leaving them with no points and no pip.

    Thats not counter thought im saying a way that the survivor who is being camped can also survive

    That is the counter play. If the Killer is hardcore camping the only way to maybe make him budge is start popping gens especially if it's a Cannibal.
    Ye but that never usually works for me, the killer usually waits until you die in the hook and then leave
    in camping Comment by Touken
  • Orion said:

    @Touken said:
    @Orion you keep talking about how the killer should always win a 1v1 but that's basically proving my point there is no way to counter camping

    Sure there is - fix generators. If all Survivors would stop feeding campers for a protracted period of time, camping would stop. I only say this because I know it'll never happen, since Survivors, despite not being the power role in this asymmetrical game, believe they're entitled to walk all over the Killer.

    So what do we do when the killer just ignores the gen rush, i mean that always happens to me
    in camping Comment by Touken
  • Me and my friends versed a hardcore face camper earlier. The trick we did was gen rush and then they hit about 30% we would have someone go unhook them and body block and get downed so the killer who is too stupid to know how to play smart just puts the fresh hook up. We had everyone hang on the hook till 30% then we saved the last guy, I flash light saved and we all 4 got out with the killer never leaving 8 meters of the hooked survivor. Just gotta learn to juggle your hook timers and at very worst be prepared to let the killer get 1 kill.

    Keywords friends not all of us play swf all the time
    in camping Comment by Touken
  • @Orion you keep talking about how the killer should always win a 1v1 but that's basically proving my point there is no way to counter camping
    in camping Comment by Touken
  • Orion said:

    @Touken said:
    So are you saying that the killer should always atleast be able to get one survivor

    No, I'm saying that 1v1, the Killer is supposed to win.


    ok i get that but if the killer is supposed to always win a 1v1 then why do they camp when they can just go get another survivor in a 1v1
    in camping Comment by Touken
  • azazer said:
    Ultimately, if you don't want to be on the hook, don't get found. You getting downed is game over. You have no more control in the situation. It's up to everyone else's actions
    So ur saying that we have to stealthy welp even when i try that they still find me and how about MM and the pig they can sneak behind you when u dont notice
    in camping Comment by Touken
  • BillyIII said:

    @Touken said:
    How are survivors  supposed to counter camping?

    @BillyIII said:
    How are killers supposed to counter sprint burst?

    @Touken said:
    Get blood lust, keep chasing them, plus with the new updated you only have to worry about it once per chase since killers complained about it

    Thats not counter thought im saying a way that the killer who is being denied an ambush can still ambush.

    Killers have a terror radius there is no way to ambush unless your playing as MM or the pig.
    ps. i honestly dont know why killers wanted SB Nerfed i never had a problem with it
    in camping Comment by Touken
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