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Because some people do hate every little shred of inconvenience.
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@[Deleted User] said:
Playing Killer was fun up until a week ago when I hit rank 9 & 8 and started to constantly go against red ranks.
The game has now messed with me psychologically.
As soon as 2-3 gens are done, and I don’t have any hooks or maybe just 1 or 2, mentally I know I already lost the game.
I gave up using hexes because they are constantly cleaned early now that I constantly face red ranks.
I also stopped using hexed to become less dependent on them. It kinda works.
But there is too much pressure as I rank up and it mentally feels like I went from fair matches where I might win as much as I lose, to where I am now losing more than I win, just because I rank up!
Its ridiculous. So yes, the gen rush is real.
You need to take a chill pill.
Stop giving up, you lose some matches that just happens. Try to figure out what went wrong, where you could've reacted better. Record your gameplay and take a look at it. Try to figure out what the problem is.
You can ask for advice in the forums, people are willing to help. Not everyone is a dick.
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Everytime I down/hook a feng, i regret I did not bring a mori.
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Ask them if they do wanna trade dickpics on snapchat.
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@ppo8820 said:
I remember when I started F13, I was annoyed and died a bit but eventually got good and reached top rank. With DBD I’ve been playing for over 7 months and most games just aren’t fun....killer or survivor. It has to be the most frustrating game I’ve ever played.
Tekken.
Like when you have a long streak going and you think damn I am doing good today. Somebody comes who just completely destroys you, you will try so many times and at the end it is back to the training room to figure out what this person did and how you have to play against it. Feels like more time spent in practice than actually playing vs other people.
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@ppo8820 said:
I rarely hear from survivor players and if a person does ask anything related to killer balance, the same group of names rush to the post to insult the user and explain why they poster is wrong and stupid. So, are you a killer or survivor main?
I am a survivor main and i despise the survivors that ask the game to be made even easier for survivors. I want a decent challenge and not free wins due to the game being skewed in one sides favor. There is hardly any challenge left in this game when playing with friends. I hope the devs will fix this in the future and stop listening to people that are so bad that they make solo experience horrible.
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@Gamer2790 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/126162/which-killer-needs-a-nerf-the-most-right-now
Bubba and his chainsaw need to be nerfed
So basicly everyday you come to the forums, ask for killer x to be nerfed and when you run out of ideas you want to other people to suggest stuff?
Honestly do you have nothing to do in your life? It is so sad to seek human attention so desperately but whatever hf.
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@Nakedwildman said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1044293#Comment_1044293
well, i have to disagree with you completly...
I do know a Nurse Main Killer which does every Game, doesnt matter what happens a 4k ...
I cant even compare that "strongness" to any other Killer if im Honest.
So "basically" she is more then good actually, even if you dont agree with his changes.
So please ask your nurse main killer to play her on sanctum of wrath, i want to see that. Honestly this map alone since oni patch meant, you will lose as nurse since everything was a deadzone on this map. Either you or your friend lies.
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@Nakedwildman said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1044293#Comment_1044293
well, i have to disagree with you completly...
I do know a Nurse Main Killer which does every Game, doesnt matter what happens a 4k ...
I cant even compare that "strongness" to any other Killer if im Honest.
So "basically" she is more then good actually, even if you dont agree with his changes.
So please ask your nurse main killer to play her on sanctum of wrath, i want to see that. Honestly this map alone since oni patch meant, you will lose as nurse since everything was a deadzone on this map. Either you or your friend lies.
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@NoRestarts said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1055794#Comment_1055794
If that were the case, people would just let themselves get hooked and suicide
I am fine with that.
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People who dc should be banned for a week. Give them time to think.
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I just escaped vs some poor killer who used NOED, guess what not only me but everybody escaped and that is 80% the case when people bring this perk.
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I think best chance is when you have a survivor that wants to finish a gen, blink behind, easy grab.
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@ZoneDymo said:
Right so 1 game goes poorly and we should completely revamp the game?
Should we just not include all the 4/3k matches under the same conditions?
Also just looking at this match, look at him instandly just leaving people, that is what cost him the game.
He also said it would refrain from slugging.... I mean... if you chose not to use your options to ermm "win" or do better or whatever, then you should not use this as an example of lack of balance.
Im not saying nothing should be done to slow the game down a tad but this is just all kinds of wrong.
Yes this one trial, these survivors did something completely unique that people were completely unaware of as nobody has done this ever in the history of dbd. /S
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@skoopydoo said:
And yet all killers have kill rates over 60. So I guess most of the time killers aren't making any mistakes.
Nurse has the lowest killrate at 43% dont make stuff up, ty.
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How often does it happen? Can you give specific statistics? I mean none of us have these but since you make these statements you must have them right?
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@Infinity_Bored said:
Interesting how many of you guys justify this behaviour with game mechanics.
If the game is so bad for you, why do u even play it?
Survs are screwed by dedicated servers as well.
If i depip because someone else is a snowflake, i have a valid point to be annoyed.
Toolboxes, DS,Loops - These are game mechanics
Just like camping and tunneling. How about you guys grow up instead of justifying such childish behaviour...
I like how you have nothing to respond to the whole point i made.
Keep it up dude, do not act like survivors have not justified dc as the tool to get balance changes. Nurse? DC. Spirit? DC. Some map i do not like dc. Dont try at all to make this about killers, instead make it about players but you didnt so i assume you just troll.
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@NoRestarts said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1050734#Comment_1050734
If you are indifferent, then why the objection?
You said it yourself, you dont want them to spend the development time because it is not something *you* need. You are trying to manipulate development time to *your* suggestions.
So if I want this implemented, should I post on all your suggestions, shooting them down, whether they impact me or not, in order to manipulate development time to my suggestion? That seems like pretty toxic behavior to me.
I think you get more value out of it than them adding it. Simple
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@Infinity_Bored said:
I wonder if it is considered to bring DC penalties back.
The amount of snowflakes in this game is unreal. I'm tired of being robbed my deserved pip by salty killers.
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/593/6MR9AG5P9H3Y.jpg
P.S. I know, survivors disconnect too. They all are the same, so PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE dont hijack another thread with balance discussion/tears.
Did you forget about the last time they tested this? The thing is while I really do want those penalties too but there are far too many bugs in the game that result in people getting banned for no fault of their own. They need to fix that before they can implement those.
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@NoRestarts said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1050538#Comment_1050538
Nope, I don't play Nascar games, but I'm assuming they are all in MPH? If so, would it have been more enjoyable to you if it was in KPH? And again if so, how can you not see my point of view?
The only other country I've been to is Jamaica, I was there for a week, and units of measurement never came up.
You don't get it do you? It is indifferent to me, i encourage you to learn something else so you take value out of it. Knowledge is strength, being independant (lul to say that to an american) is better than being dependant on somebody.
Ofc the games were in mph, i think i was about 12 when I learned that so when I could do that with 12, i believe you are able to learn metric system too.
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@NoRestarts said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1050426#Comment_1050426
Knowing a little how game development works, each instance that a number appears in description text is a variable, so they can adjust it as needed to increase or decrease the values. All you would need is a conversion formula and to replace the word "Meter" with "Feet", this is not significant development time, compared to something like a new character, that requires a character model, texturing, animation, sounds, new mechanics, etc.
I choose not learn Metric because it is not practical to learn in my country, we do not use it.
Let me ask you this, if I was releasing a racing game in Europe, and I only had it in MPH, I should tell everyone asking for a conversion to KPH to just convert it to KPH in their head?
Did you ever play nascar games?
Have fun discovering the world i guess. Will you go to other countries and be like, hey could you please convert all here so i can understand how big that building is or how far these catacombs stretch. lol
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Yes
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@brokedownpalace said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1050359#Comment_1050359
Yeah, but uh, she can blink through them. You know, without breaking them?
Yes that is after it is down isn't it? So when she blinks at you at the pallet, drop it on her head, stun her and go run to the next LoS, change direction whatever just keep an eye on her.
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@NoRestarts said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1050290#Comment_1050290
So if the developer speaks English, do you believe that there should be no language translation, and if you want to play you need to learn English?
Again, I am not asking for anything to be taken away, only added.
Can you explain you resistance to that?
Let's say that tomorrow they patch the game, and there is an option to change the unit of measure in the settings, how exactly does that affect your game?
Why do you care?
Because it feels like with the little stuff we do get, i think they need to alocate their manpower / ressources elsewhere on more pressing matters. Meanwhile nothing stops you from learning the metric system and that might come in handy, see like if you knew it already the discussion doesn't exist again 😁
I do not like translations, yes they are handy but it is best to learn other languages so you do not require them. Translations do not come without flaws, there can be grave errors in it and some stuff can not be translated as certain expressions do not exist.
I find it baffling that you refuse to learn something which can be handy in life but you do you.
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@NMCKE said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1044240#Comment_1044240
*Coff Coff*
The new Yamoaka map is so bugged that you minus well say you're an 3.68m/s killer.
I remember how terrible it felt to have my blinks do nothing. 😕
Have you played her on that map after the recent patch and hotfix? I do not dare to play that offering as nurse 😅
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@brokedownpalace said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1048662#Comment_1048662
I mean I've commented on Nurse probably once in the past two months so I hope you're not including me in that 3-4 people, lol. I disagree completely that "most people" agree she is too weak. In no way is Nurse weak. A killer that can ignore pallets, loops and windows cannot ever be weak.
She can be stunned during blink with a pallet, she doesn't ignore those anymore.
@Tro said:
There's a reason she is one of the least played killers and has one of the lowest kill rates. We are not asking for her to be as good as she was before, we are asking to make her fun and viable again. No one wants to be stunned/fatigued half the match.
She actually has now the lowest killrate of all killers, after the stats have been released, almo made a comment in some thread i think 1-2 months later on (it was about legion nerfs) and he stated legion did better with the changes and lowest killrate is nurse. 43%
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Looks like a cheap copy of lollipop chainsaw, not at all like harley quinn.
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@NoRestarts said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1050213#Comment_1050213
But you were given the option to choose which version you wanted to use, so those that were not taught English could still play it, correct?
I just making a suggestion for accessibility, not asking them to take anything away, I don't understand the resistance. If you like metric, use metric.
I mean, a lot of the world speaks English, right? The only language that is spoken more is Chinese, but that is due to their massive population, and mostly limited to China. There are only 371 Million Native English Speakers, yet there are 611 Million non-native speakers, more than any other language. But regardless of that fact, I would never say that all other languages are dumb and everyone should just learn English, since the majority do.
Sure there were german versions available as well.
Actually everybody is being taught english in germany, starting in elementary school.
See it the other way around, we bother to learn your language, we bother to understand your system, you should do the same and we would not have this discussion in the first place.
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@NoRestarts said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1049930#Comment_1049930
Thank you for having a calm and polite discussion, it is rare these days.
As I mentioned to the other poster, games should be made as accessible as possible.
You would not sell a game in Germany without German translations, right? I mean, you could, but it probably wouldn't sell as well.
It's just a suggestion, which is what this sub-forum is for. I'm not making demands, or calling the metric system dumb, the devs can take it or leave it.
The last thing I'll say is that just because you, or most of the world don't need something, doesn't mean everyone doesn't. Most of the world doesn't need a colorblind mode, but for those that do need it, it is very much appreciated.
Actually back in the days, games were sold in OT (original tone) so you had an english version and not changed one because we like to have the product in the way it was done and not changed, translation mistakes etc.
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I don't have a problem with kindred being added to base but I doubt it will happen, if it will happen than killer will still not be buffed accordingly.
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@Johnny_XMan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1049215#Comment_1049215
I have trouble understanding the first paragraph. Or maybe you didn't understand what I said. I didn't say slugging was absurd. To turn Slugging into a perk is absurd.
Nope it was about the last paragraph since this quote function here is quite strange tbh.
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@Johnny_XMan said:
While I agree that slugging as a perk is absurd, let's not pretend like slugging for a killer isn't a luxury. You wouldn't be slugging if people were getting right back up over and over with the unlimited amount of times it happens.
I just don't wanna hear about how killers would play "nicer" if perks like Ruin weren't nerfed and DS didn't exist. Because that is just as absurd.
This is not absurd at all. Did you never play as killer or what? At some point you know pretty damn well that the survivors are struggling and you could end the game right now but instead of doing that you take off a bit of pressure so you can have more points, potential double pip and more points for them too.
As an example, you see an pretty unsafe unhook, do you tunnel the person or go for the healthy one? Depending on how pressure is, this usually would play a significant role in my decision, nowadays? Who gives a #########.
That is the way it has been for me as killer depending on what I play, that is probably because why I do not get as much as hate/toxic comments on my profile but instead +rep from people that died in my trials.
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@Johnny_XMan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1049123#Comment_1049123
From what I can tell (and I can be corrected because they blocked out the perks) I don't see indication that they had OoO or the other two were swf.
My main point is that I could report back here about all the bad matches I have had as a killer where I know I played bad and easily got "gen rushed". Because I understand that I didn't do my part, I can't really blame the survivors for playing well.
I thought your comment was about general killer gameplay. This is what I was talking about, sure it does matter how a killer plays. But in the end even if a killer does protect 3 gens, depending on which killer he plays ofc it is more or less tricky, you probably know how repair times are depending on 1/2/3 working on a single gen ( bring in a toolbox, pt, a few skillchecks).
So when survivor is not really bad, you know the gens and prevent the 3 gen from happening it doesn't take much and you leave the killer in the end with a gen situation that is impossible to defend.
Sure it does matter how killer plays but it is not the deceiding factor. A single mistake will cost you the game.
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@ClickyClicky said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1048295#Comment_1048295
No what sucks the joy out are people like yourself who do nothing but complain, attack, and try to belittle anyone who would like to see certain things changed to make the game more enjoyable.
This feedback section is free to post in. Why not create your own topic if you want killer buffs? Rather than try to put down everyone else whos opinion you disagree with?
Theres such an emotional reaction any time the slightest hint of a killer change is brought up unless it involves buffing them.
Yes because there is nothing left but belittle and laugh about people who still cry for killer nerfs when playing survivor is as challenging as taking a #########.
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Yes nurse is bugged in several ways.
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@Johnny_XMan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1049068#Comment_1049068
And exactly what you just said is the piece of the puzzle missing when I ask people why they feel like they got gen rushed.
Sometimes I get it, map rng hits heavy and you have a group of survivors who are decent, and have toolboxes, but how you play as a killer matters.
Applying pressure is not just a meme, it's a reality. Some people will ultimately suffer in their matches unless they know how to properly apply any kind of pressure for that matter.
Depends on how survivors play honestly. This were solos or just 2 friends playing together who knows about the others? 4man swf with OoO and ez pz. 4 good survivors will win in 90% the rest is with giving room for error and fuckups due to being human.
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@ClickyClicky said:
Pretty much everyone who has played against him has said this but if you look at all the fuss when GF first came out (I do admit he was a bit weak) the devs caves in to the most hardcore killer mains just because they make the most noise.
Ghostface sucks the fun and joy out of this game like nothing else.
What really sucks the joy out of this game are people like you, who are unable to improve only a little bit. All their energy is spent on crytime in the forums and nothing else.
A little weak, not a single content creator liked how GF was introduced into the PTB. Scott etc it doesn't matter, find me a single good nonbiased cc who liked how gf was when he arrived on ptb.
He wasn't a bit weak he had no power because you could reveal him by simply spinning your camera everywhere.
Go ask for nerfs, make every killer a 115% killer with no power and tell yourself you are good because you than finally manage to escape, probably bloodlust has to be removed as well and to be fair they all just need 110.
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@LegionGhostface said:
i’ve played nurse since i first got the game and honestly don’t have that many hours with her, i kinda picked up on her power quickly. i’m rank 1 as well and never fail to get 3k or 4k
The thing is nobody believes you, stating chases end in 5-10seconds, everybody knows you are making that up.
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@ClickyClicky said:
People just dont want their ez mode killer nerfed.
Kiddo, nothing is easy as killer. Ez mode is the survivor part of the game, you know where people are too bad to hit a skillcheck.
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@ClickyClicky said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1047096#Comment_1047096
Lmao
One who is stuck at 115% movement speed vs one who can zoom across the map as frequently as he wants at 230% speed
One who has to waste time stalking survivors and delaying the chase to be granted instadowns for a very short duration vs someone who has unlimited instadowns from the very start of the trial
How can they both be the most balanced when they aren’t even in the same league
Yes yes, every map has 0 obstacles and is 100% deadzone, billy op. *facepalm*
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@xRem said:
I've been hearing alot of talk that Billy is broken or should be next for a nerf, I made this to see why people believe this.
I personally believe he is what every killer should be, strong but countable and if you disagree please try to say why and be open for a discussion.
Billy is high risk/reward, people who complain are bad at the game. They will gut him like they did with nurse and so on...
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Just wave your arms constantly which also tells people, killer is camping.
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@Bunnie said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1045726#Comment_1045726
Why else would you slug? I mean im not a good killer. i can get a 4k. I dont need to tunnel slug or camp for it. By all means explain to me what slugging is needed for. Besides giving a survivor another chance after theyve been hooked twice what else? Maybe im just going up against crap killers who use it to be toxic.
Yes against potatoes you don't need to do anything and can get a 4k.
The game changes depending on the survivors ability to push out gens/keep chase up. Slugging is something killers do when the opportunity presents itself, in order to apply pressure.
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@LlamaArmour said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1044703#Comment_1044703
Is the kill rate taking pick rate into account?
Furthermore, like I said; she's high risk and high reward. She needs to have a massive downside to counter her power.
Also where did I describe old Nurse? Was it the part where I said she bypasses survivor defences and has a game breaking power? Because that still stands.
I am not quite sure what you mean with does the killrate do take pickrate into account, the killrate is the average amount of kills of said killer in the games being played.
The thing is, she no longer has a reward part at all. Learning nurse was a thing in the past, the old nurse was perfect for that. I completely disagree that her power is being gamebreaking in any kind or way, it doesn't disable the movement for survivors.
Movement/Mindgaming was a constant thing against old nurse which made for the most fun trials of them all. No bs, just skill on both sides. She now is a limited version of her former self, little to no map pressure, easy to dodge/juke. They made the counterplay to her so dumbed down it is horrible, you can actually run away in a straight line and it will extend the chase for an long amount of time given how easy it is to do.
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@Mister_Holdout said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1044829#Comment_1044829
Still is.
Two new heroes are being released this Thursday.
True, i think i shall reinstall the game. Thanks for the advice ☺️
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@Mister_Holdout said:
Never gonna happen.
If you want to play Vader, then buy Star Wars Battlefront 2.
that game was such fun vader/imp always fun
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@LegionGhostface said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1044743#Comment_1044743
not really, she's a strong killer and most veteran DBD players will agree that she's the best killer in dead by daylight right now. her mechanism of blinking to injure, wait for fatigue, then blink and down again is by far the most overpowered. no other killer can do this and sure, there have been some nerfs but she is definitely not in F tier. if you can't play her well, that's just you but her power is definitely really good especially against good survivors
Can you stream right now? I wanna see ya play.
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@ppo8820 said:
And if so, what would you suggest? I think he needs a cool down on his chainsaw and some other possible movement changes. As is, and with certain add ons he can wipe a lobby, which is why all new killers love him. Let’s nerf billy!!
Is that like 2 threads in 2 days with same subject and author everything the same? I think i just gonna Flag as spam and see what happens.
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@LlamaArmour said:
Nurse is a perfect example of why this game is unable to be balanced based on the best players (as I would usually advocate). Can you imagine balancing Nurse around average killers? She would be all you see, and she would be destroying every game!
She is a rare exception whereby if you are amazing you will be able to bypass all of the survivors defences and down them within 20/30 seconds. However, if you aren't amazing you'll get stomped.
I personally think she should be left as she is. It's good to have a killer with a high risk and a high reward, otherwise anyone that is moderately decent can pick her up and destroy teams almost effortlessly. Not to mention that it rewards players that are willing to put in the time and effort into learning her.
People suggest silly things like making her base speed faster, or giving her more blinks/less cool down; but they forget that her power by design is game breaking and that this needs to be balanced by making her less powerful in other areas.
To summarise; Nurse is in a good spot at the moment, don't let the fact that people struggle to play her cloud the fact that she is still top 2 (arguably the best killer).
Yes the best killer or 2nd best killer with a killrate lower than clown. facepalm
What you describe is how old nurse worked, she needed addons changed and nothing else. Now you can put time into her and get no reward at all. You can perform the same with any other killer, even better depending on which.
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@LegionGhostface said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1044527#Comment_1044527
nurse is definitely the strongest killer when she’s played right and people are used to her blinks. her bugs are an issue but they won’t stop her from 4king and ending chases in like 5-10 seconds. her kill rate doesn’t determine whether she’s a good killer, there are unskilled nurses that will have so much trouble playing now especially with her nerf. i play her at rank 1 killer and never depipped or gotten anything other than a 3k or 4k (sometimes find hatch) in a long time. it really depends on your knowledge of her power. she had one of the highest kill rate prior to her nerf and proving my point, you need to actually be aware of her blinks.
Yes ofc since the right hands magicly fix her bugs. Like what part do you not understand about this that the game will completely screw you over and you can not use your power? No amount of getting used to or skill is going to fix that.
Ending chases in 5-10 seconds? Okay. Sure I believe that, NOT. Chase starts, when you get close to the survivor after that you need to wait for 2 blinks to come up again, than if everything is perfect you get one hit, by that time your estimated chasetime of 5-10sec is already done. Cause after the hit, the survivor gets away from her and she needs another 2 blinks. You should also consider dead hard, which comes in than and it is another 2 blinks... Just honestly stop.
I doubt that you play her at all cause 5-10sec is not realistic in the slightest.