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  • @Delfador said:
    I don't understand why people turned against jen at all. More than half of what she suggested was in favor of killers. Even when she wanted to buff the game's pallet design in favor of survivors, she mentioned very safe pallet areas that suck for the killer.

    Bloodlust is needed for some buildings but she already wants them to fix those issues. Other than that, she doesn't want bloodlust to be removed.

    Pallet droppings are a problem too. Just because killers suffered because of pallet vacuum and other issues should not mean that survivors have to suffer too.

    In every single post, I am always killer sided except for nurses and I couldn't see any problem with what she has said. The thing that disturbs me is that people including tru3 attacked her from different angles which don't even mean anything. Instead of her suggestion, people talk about how much she plays killer, why she doesn't stream killer etc.

    I'm sorry but tru3 attacked her? Can you link me to that cause I don't know if I'd really believe it, he doesn't really talk about balance anymore.

  • @SenzuDuck said:

    @Doom_Punk said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @fcc2014 said:

    @SenzuDuck said:
    I love how upset he gets about tbagging, that's hilarious.

    I'm on the same platform and know his screen name i pray to find him in a lobby some day but i haven't been rank 20 since July of 2017 when i got it.

    Oh no, he's making his character bob up and down to upset me.

    Lets it actually upset him, hilarious.
    Played against him the other day on Lerys he was nurse and he tunneled the [BAD WORD] out of me - listening to him brag about how good his nurse is is an absolute joke.

    I've seen you tunnel him as Huntress and then complain about DS in the end chat. This was a while ago.

    Karma.

    Edit: Can't find it, though I swore I saw your name in the end chat.

    Either way, doesn't matter. Going after the weak link = getting someone out of the game quickly. Doesn't matter who does it, player or Killer.

    I know of one time I've played against him as huntress and I recall him saying I was good as someone who was watching him came and told me, I did terrible that game it was a swamp map, always bad for huntress but I don't tunnel unless you're body blocking and trying to flashligh and he does neither.

    I watch my OOTubes on a flat screen TV on my couch so I probably mixed your name up somewhere. Text is extremely hard to see from there but it looked close to how your name is, just making out some letters.

    I don't mind if he does stuff like that though. I think he's extremely nice most of the time, the rare times he does super tunnel or camp I know he's had previous bad games. If anybody camps or tunnels I can't care enough to call them out on it.

    He's fun to watch, not the best, but he does lose it at times. And ######### Swamp, those maps are terrible for anyone :(

  • It's arguably the strongest perk in the game, so I'd say to not fix it. I hate seeing people run it and yet I run it myself, it's that stupid strong.

  • @SenzuDuck said:

    @fcc2014 said:

    @SenzuDuck said:
    I love how upset he gets about tbagging, that's hilarious.

    I'm on the same platform and know his screen name i pray to find him in a lobby some day but i haven't been rank 20 since July of 2017 when i got it.

    Oh no, he's making his character bob up and down to upset me.

    Lets it actually upset him, hilarious.
    Played against him the other day on Lerys he was nurse and he tunneled the [BAD WORD] out of me - listening to him brag about how good his nurse is is an absolute joke.

    I've seen you tunnel him as Huntress and then complain about DS in the end chat. This was a while ago.

    Karma.

    Edit: Can't find it, though I swore I saw your name in the end chat.

    Either way, doesn't matter. Going after the weak link = getting someone out of the game quickly. Doesn't matter who does it, player or Killer.

  • @Orion said:
    Until Survivors stop being entitled, constantly complaining about things that they find annoying instead of things that make the game imbalanced, you can kiss your wish goodbye.

    Pretty much this.

  • He never was viable to begin with. I really pray he gets buffs.

    PRAY FOR BUBBA

  • @PinkEricka said:
    Doom_Punk said:

    I don't want my perk to explode in 20 seconds perhaps?

    Sorry, I should’ve gave a little more detail. Last night, I got out of a match where the killer protected their TOTH totem all game instead of just coming to hunt us down. It cost them the game. They didn’t have NOED, Devour hope, nothing. Absolutely no good reason to protect it... I was just wondering why they do it because I’ve seen a lot of killers do it for no actual strategic reason.

    Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

    I getcha, yeah I have no idea why they do that. I get the feeling they think if the totem goes down it's game over.

    I had a Huntress who I baited over hitting both TOTH and Lullaby, while everyone else just got the gens no problem.. It's more of a hassle than a help at that point.

  • @Navydivea said:

    @Doom_Punk said:
    They're already fast enough to do all gens in 3 minutes so I really wouldn't want gens to be even quicker...

    Plus coding that would be a nightmare.

    Yeah, and knowing these devs...

  • @Dwight_Fairfield said:
    Paddy4583 said:8

    New SWF killer guide for 2.0.1, just substitute toddler for killer and it’s ready to go 

    This post wins the thread.

    For Survivor mains yeah they'll think that.

    It doesn't prove anything though. It's just mindless insults.

  • Much more fun being a low rank as Killer. I have no issues with it as long as you're not going completely tryhard on new players and letting them learn and get points.

  • @Goobz said:
    Tsulan said:

    @Goobz said:

    Master said:

    Someissues said:
    
    @Master said:
    
    Tunneling the weakest dude is literally the best thing a killer can do.
    
    Yeah I agree, he doesnt use all the tools the game gives him ....
    
    
    
    Yep, at High Ranked you pretty much have to tunneled since a survivor have 3 lives, there really isn't any incentive to go after new survivors, more time on wasting means you lose the game
    
    
    
    Survivors had 3 life's if crutches weren't a thing
    

    Honestly just get good. You can’t blame a perk and an item for doing ######### in a match overall. Watching that video he played like absolute #########, you can’t blame everything else besides your place style when you get ######### in a match. It’s his own fault. 

    Could you post a video of yourself, playing with Wraith on that map vs a SWF group with DS and Flashlights, please?

    Just want to see, how you Roflstomp them...

    Alright I will. I’ll do it with no perks either if you want to be a smartass. 

    waits patiently to see him fail

  • People want equal balance in a 1v4 ASYMMETRICAL game. This is not symmetry, this is asymmetry, the Killer is supposed to be really strong.

    A small, cartoon-like mobile game did this game but actually did it right.

  • I don't want my perk to explode in 20 seconds perhaps?

  • Nurse, Huntress, and Hag.

  • It'd just be another disaster of Nurse vs. Claudette.

  • Screw that, gimme an SWF indicator.

  • @Tsulan said:
    Why not remove the red stain permanently while using Beast of Prey? This would give us more jump scare moments.

    Agreed, would make the perk see some use.

  • @PoppaSquat

    1) I'm all for this one. I do get skillchecks a lot at the end of it which mess up the whole thing, so having a button press to break it is something I can get behind.

    2) Would have to see that in a PTB or something to see how it would work out. If not it could just add some sabotage percentage onto hooks that have been used. Say X % is added onto the bar on the hook that's been used. It's a used hook so it would make sense.

    3) That could be good too, though new addons would have to be made for it to make sense to me. You wouldn't be pulling out a hacksaw from a hook to make sabotaging go faster after all. :)

    Overall, some nice suggestions and I like your enthusiasm with the ideas. They're not too insane but some good QoL changes that could see some use in testing them out.

  • @ItsDaEmuDood said:
    After initiating a chase with a Survivor, every 25/20/15 seconds you spend chasing them and not hitting them, gain a token. Each token increases movement speed by 1%. Maximum 15 tokens. Maximum 3 tokens per chase. Lose 5/4/3 tokens upon hooking a Survivor.
    This would allow you to keep the benefits of the speed for you to actually do something with it. Don't make it an obsession perk, as not only one Survivor is your "food", and so you don't have to follow one person around and have no pressure on anyone else.

    That is really bad and time consuming. Even getting 3 tokens right now takes an absurd amount of time.

  • They're already fast enough to do all gens in 3 minutes so I really wouldn't want gens to be even quicker...

  • @SuperiorityComplex said:
    Doom_Punk said:

    @SuperiorityComplex said:

    SuperiorityComplex said:

    SovererignKing said:
    
    
    
    SuperiorityComplex said:
    
    Why is looping seen as such an crummy method of surviving by soo many killers? What other options to survivors have to survive? Most jukes don’t work against good killers, and if you do managed to break LOS and throw them off they usually find you again pretty quickly due to the loud crying. Looping is the only effective method survivors have to waste a killers time. 
    
    Key word : “Good”. A Killer that is good at tracking their prey should be rewarded for being good. All looping does is negate a good Killers skill at finding and tracking. It turns the Survivors fail state of being found and chased into a win state. 
    
    Survivor : Don’t get found, win. Get found, but loop the Killer for just long enough, still win.
    
    Killer : Don’t find anyone, you lose. Find everyone easy, but get looped, you still lose.
    
    Its literally punishing the Killer for doing exactly what he/she is supposed to do, find and chase Survivors. It’s a win/win for Survivors, lose/lose for Killers. Why would you not complain about being punished for doing exactly what you’re supposed to do? 
    

    Okay but you completely disregard that certain killers have a way to completely negate stealth anyway. (Doctor, Freddy, Etc.) Not to mention all the buffs to the auras reading perks coming off the PTB and things like the need for altruism that force you to be risky and expose yourself to pip. 

    Coming from a Jake main with 2200 hours, you can still stealth completely and pip.

    Doctor and Freddy are not complete stealth ruiners. I sometimes get games where I never scream and are never seen, games where I never fall asleep. Games where I am found out once but never again. Games where I fall asleep but trick him with aura reading like he has BBQ.

    Aura reading perks can be played around too.

    The key to being good at stealth is not giving up the first chance you get. You've gotta believe in your ability to be sneaky and not lose hope just because it's Doctor. That's the way you get yourself killed in stealth. Persistence is huge, and even if you mess up, it'll teach you to stealth better the next time.

    You’re right it is possible, but it’s no where near as rewarding as just looping, it buys way more time for your team and gets you way more blood points. This game doesn’t reward stealth play enough for it to ever be alone worth it. The example you gave for Freddy, and Doctor is extremely situational as I find most of time it’s imposible to hide from someone you can’t see or while screaming, and having auras say “ I AM HERE.” every couple of seconds. 

    I agree stealth should be more rewarding points and emblem wise. There is an Evader emblem after all, not Looper.

    I have every character where I want them so I take personal satisfaction in successfully hiding. But I definitely agree it should be more rewarded.

  • @Shipthebread said:

    @Vortexas said:
    Because it's utter bullshit, that I can find and chase someone...then on discord they are all like

    "Hay guis his totem is by the barn near the vault point go get it while I loop him!"

    And such bullshit that needs to be done away with.

    Seriously Give Killers the Option to Opt out of SWF, yes I can just dodge, but Killer que times at least for me lately have been ######### long, only to finally get a group..and its a 4 man Ochido wannabe SWF squad.

    Git Gud

    Is what SWF players refuse to do.

  • I like this, would be much better than handicapping yourself so horribly just for a very short 12m vision radius.

  • All the females.

    The males I don't have issues with. The volume is tolerable and they aren't really annoying sound effects.

  • @Paddy4583 said:
    It’s a chase game it was never designed for stealth the devs have said this countless times, the whole mechanic of the game sets you up for chasing and escaping. 

    I wonder what time you started playing this game because it was not a gangbang loop simulator in 2016.

  • @SuperiorityComplex said:
    SuperiorityComplex said:


    SovererignKing said:


    SuperiorityComplex said:

    Why is looping seen as such an crummy method of surviving by soo many killers? What other options to survivors have to survive? Most jukes don’t work against good killers, and if you do managed to break LOS and throw them off they usually find you again pretty quickly due to the loud crying. Looping is the only effective method survivors have to waste a killers time. 

    Key word : “Good”. A Killer that is good at tracking their prey should be rewarded for being good. All looping does is negate a good Killers skill at finding and tracking. It turns the Survivors fail state of being found and chased into a win state. 

    Survivor : Don’t get found, win. Get found, but loop the Killer for just long enough, still win.

    Killer : Don’t find anyone, you lose. Find everyone easy, but get looped, you still lose.

    Its literally punishing the Killer for doing exactly what he/she is supposed to do, find and chase Survivors. It’s a win/win for Survivors, lose/lose for Killers. Why would you not complain about being punished for doing exactly what you’re supposed to do? 

    Okay but you completely disregard that certain killers have a way to completely negate stealth anyway. (Doctor, Freddy, Etc.) Not to mention all the buffs to the auras reading perks coming off the PTB and things like the need for altruism that force you to be risky and expose yourself to pip. 

    Coming from a Jake main with 2200 hours, you can still stealth completely and pip.

    Doctor and Freddy are not complete stealth ruiners. I sometimes get games where I never scream and are never seen, games where I never fall asleep. Games where I am found out once but never again. Games where I fall asleep but trick him with aura reading like he has BBQ.

    Aura reading perks can be played around too.

    The key to being good at stealth is not giving up the first chance you get. You've gotta believe in your ability to be sneaky and not lose hope just because it's Doctor. That's the way you get yourself killed in stealth. Persistence is huge, and even if you mess up, it'll teach you to stealth better the next time.

  • I wish the new Killers would have Legacy counterparts but sadly that won't happen.

    I want a Legacy Doctor so bad.

  • Doctor. To me, the most fun, best for points, easiest to mine salt with.

    A badass lightning storm on two legs.

  • It's pretty slow but I might be the only one that uses both reload addons.

    2 second reloads, clink swish-swish-swish done.

    Those addons together are awesome. The base power is pretty good on its own for me to not really see a point to add anything else to it except quicker bottles.

  • @IronWolf115 said:
    5 for killer, yes.

    5 for survivor? Hell no

    This right here.

  • @Tsulan said:

    @Doom_Punk said:

    @ChesterTheMolester said:
    Most people apparently forget that you can't depip at R20-R15 so bashing new players will inevitably lead to the ranks where you won't get matched with them anymore unless you plan on purposefully losing all the time to noobs cause you wanna stay there.

    They'll eventually pip up to those ranks (since pipping isn't hard) so it essentially just moves the noob zone from 20 to 15.

    I've seen Rank 1 Survivors with 80 hours in the game and they clearly play like #########.

    They should increase the pips to reach rank 15 and maybe dissable double pips for the noob ranks.

    I think that would be much better, yeah. It'd take a while to get to 15 which would be plenty of games to learn.

  • @Wolf74 said:

    @Mercury said:

    The Huntress:

    • Allow certain perks to affect hatchets, ie. MYC, NOED, etc.
    • BP gain for precise shot stops at some point and only 'charged' shots grant more BP's in deviousness. Would be nice if it was looked at.

    If you guys have other ideas, I'd like to hear them. If possible just 'smaller' changes and not entire reworks.

    Insta down abilitiey like MYC or Noed could affect beartraps. ;)

    That honestly wouldn't be a bad idea. It'd invoke some fear of "Oh ######### he has Diamond Stone (Honing in next patch)!" when really, he caught you at a bad time to be caught.

  • @ASpazNamedSteve said:
    @Doom_Punk Even they suck imo. Movement speed is barely noticeable, and longer rev time means you have more ground to cover from slowly revving anyway :/

    Plus rev time is probably his most important stat, much more so than Billy.

    I really hope for Leatherface to get something in the future.

    They do, yeah, though I still like to run them regardless when I'm low on Bulbs or Guides, as long as I have a Bulb/Guide to counteract the slow charge.

    PrayForBubba

  • @IronWolf115 said:

    @Doom_Punk said:
    I love it when people catch on to how useless the Chili addons are. I've run tests and they do NOTHING at all.

    Beast's Marks and Knife Scratches are what make you move faster while swinging. Acceleration does nothing.

    Good posts. I really want some Bubba buffs, cause he is so damn bad.

    Thank you for the feedbak!
    I completely agree with you, the problem with the Beast's marks and knife scratches though is that they make you chainsaw take longer to charge so there is still a downside that hurts LF which sucks.

    I like the direction they're going with Trapper and Hag addons not having downsides, and I don't see why any Killer addons should have downsides unless they truly are powerful as hell. I don't think moving a bit faster would break him cause you'd still kill an addon slot (or two) to move faster, not to charge faster.

    Some YouTubers I believe still think Chili does something which gave me the idea to test it, and there was no difference in how much distance I traveled nor how fast I walked holding it.

    It's such a shame with how fun he is to play that he's incredibly weak and usually has to camp to get something done.

  • I love it when people catch on to how useless the Chili addons are. I've run tests and they do NOTHING at all.

    Beast's Marks and Knife Scratches are what make you move faster while swinging. Acceleration does nothing.

    Good posts. I really want some Bubba buffs, cause he is so damn bad.

  • @ChesterTheMolester said:
    Most people apparently forget that you can't depip at R20-R15 so bashing new players will inevitably lead to the ranks where you won't get matched with them anymore unless you plan on purposefully losing all the time to noobs cause you wanna stay there.

    They'll eventually pip up to those ranks (since pipping isn't hard) so it essentially just moves the noob zone from 20 to 15.

    I've seen Rank 1 Survivors with 80 hours in the game and they clearly play like #########.

  • @only1biggs said:

    @Doom_Punk said:

    @only1biggs said:
    @Doom_Punk

    Of course my profile is private..to stop weirdos like you creeping around on my page for no good reason :D

    I'm not assuming anything boy. You are and have. You're so out of touch with the point you have resorted to whatever it is you are doing now. Sucking off streamers? Quake? What? Get a grip.

    Not one of the streamers I mentioned thinks the game is balanced and I said as much. But..selective reading on your part, so whatever, it's clear for all to see now.

    Also, back down from what? An excuse to not record? Oh, like you just did? Why would I take up streaming just to appease you? Moreover, even if I wanted to stream, I too lack the hardware to do so.

    So just looking at your number of hours is creeping on you? Lol. I see it more as you're hiding something. I check hours with people that make troll posts such as yours to get an idea on how much they actually know about the game. Can't do that on private profiles.

    I'm just simply knocking down what you're saying, this nonsense of 'fake pick ups and look at walls' or 'this community is not great when it comes to flashlights' to then have an average Tofu agree with you. You always reference the same streamers and same points that it really seems you're sucking them off good. How much did they pay you to write nonsense and refer them? Every point I'm making you're not even trying to answer back to. I bring up Quake a lot when people talk about 'skill' and 'mistakes' in this game, acting as if anything requires much effort in a 4v1 gangbang where the 1 has to pray to the almighty Entity the 4 are weak.

    I've been bringing up that game so much, not only cause I got back into it recently, but it's an example of comparing balance. Quake has it and needs skill whereas DbD does not.

    Then why do you and they act as if it's up to Killers to mess up? Lemme go bring up some points about flashlights that work on idiots, if you don't do these then it's your fault and you deserve to lose reeeeee. When anyone with a brain knows they don't work. I've seen it in game, doesn't work on me, unless there's a wall there's no countering it.

    Lack of hardware isn't an excuse, so if such is true, then we both can't. This laptop is about as fast as paint drying. I just figured you being a troll on here you'd muster up some stupid reason as to why you won't do it, but hey, atleast you proved one thing right. Gotta count for something.

    I'm not hiding anything other than not wanting randoms to check on me. You. Weirdo.
    You're trying to look at my hours because you think that has some indication of my knowledge? Well...my hours are BIG.
    You've not "knocked down" anything I've said.
    If you can't outplay flashlights but "average" people can, what does that make you?
    Agreeing with someone's rational though isn't "sucking them off", you creepy weirdo. Get a grip. Get a prostitute. Jeez.
    What point are you making exactly? It's impossible to argue or counter such people as any alternative is seen as "trolling".
    Comparing Quake and DbD is stupid.
    Anyone with a brain knows how to counter flashlights correctly. You do not it seems. Therefore you have no brain.
    "Lack of hardware isn't an excuse"!?!? You said that first you poor fool! :D Oh my god, now I just feel bad for you.

    Let's agree to disagree and move on :')

    • You hide your supposedly "BIG" hours.
    • Yes, you talk "BIG" hours but don't show them. No reason to have a private profile on Steam anyway.
    • You've not answered to anything I've said regarding your bullshit. I brought up points that your flashlight counters don't work and you can't prove they do and won't do so, I said they work on idiots, you can't prove to me they work on good players.
    • I can outplay flashlights... on idiots. Anyone with a brain won't fall for those 'counters'.
    • You bring up those streamers over and over to try and back up your points, you blindly agree to what they say about blaming themselves not the game, flashlight 'counters' and so on. Just can't seem to get away from that juicy streamer D. I dunno about you, but telling someone to get a prostitute is actually creepy. What a weirdo.
    • Making a point of your flashlight counters are worthless on anyone with a functional brain. You bring up your streamer buddies to back you up when you can't actually prove it works on functional Survivors. It's impossible to argue with someone that uses streamer XYZ saying something ABC that you believe is right. You're not proving anything.
    • Quake isn't the best example but it's an example to show you what balance actually is and what mistakes can do, not DbD where you claim it was Tru3's fault he lost. Face it, any other streamer in his position would have lost the exact same way. He lost cause of terrible balance, if he didn't make mistakes it wouldn't have mattered.
    • Anyone with a brain knows to not fall for flashlight 'counters'. You do not get this it seems.
    • And what about that? I'm straight up telling you it isn't an excuse because it isn't one. Reading comprehension is hard, I know, but saying you can't because of hardware isn't an excuse, you literally cannot even if you wanted to. An excuse would be something along the lines of "I'm too busy" or "I don't feel like it". If what you say is true, it's not an excuse to not do it because, well, it's impossible to. That word is interpreted differently a lot but what I meant with it is, atleast you didn't bullshit your way out of that one. You call it an excuse, but it isn't. It's a legitimate reason not to stream/record.

    @SovererignKing Good post, sadly it's like talking to a brick wall.

  • Shadowborn. It's fun to use sometimes, but hard to fit anywhere on builds due to reliance on certain perks.

  • @ChraizE said:

    @Tsulan said:

    @ChraizE said:
    Nurse is too OP so I am happy for crutch perks like DS otherwise it would be survivors RQing. Can you imagine a god nurse with chilli and make your choice? give me a break! Nerf the nurse first then remove DS!!

    How about hiding? Or maybe... if survivors spend as much time evading the nurse, as a nurse player spends to master her, there wouldn´t be a problem.
    So it might just be a classical case of Git Gud!

    lmao clearly you're not high ranked survivor. a nurse god with make your choice is a [BAD WORD] joke! anybody who ACTUALLY played against one at high rank would agree. without DS it's not even worth it and you say to hide? lol ok so unhook trigger make your choice while nurse blinks straight to you with speed blink addons and insta down you don't have time to hide when you're actively supporting your team and being you know...useful?? you talk like the type of survivor who crouches behind trees all game while your team die on the hook.

    Stealth doesn't exist to Survivors such as yourself, so have fun dying over and over and over and over to Nurse. Adapt or let the deaths roll in. She is beatable.

  • @only1biggs said:
    @Doom_Punk

    Of course my profile is private..to stop weirdos like you creeping around on my page for no good reason :D

    I'm not assuming anything boy. You are and have. You're so out of touch with the point you have resorted to whatever it is you are doing now. Sucking off streamers? Quake? What? Get a grip.

    Not one of the streamers I mentioned thinks the game is balanced and I said as much. But..selective reading on your part, so whatever, it's clear for all to see now.

    Also, back down from what? An excuse to not record? Oh, like you just did? Why would I take up streaming just to appease you? Moreover, even if I wanted to stream, I too lack the hardware to do so.

    So just looking at your number of hours is creeping on you? Lol. I see it more as you're hiding something. I check hours with people that make troll posts such as yours to get an idea on how much they actually know about the game. Can't do that on private profiles.

    I'm just simply knocking down what you're saying, this nonsense of 'fake pick ups and look at walls' or 'this community is not great when it comes to flashlights' to then have an average Tofu agree with you. You always reference the same streamers and same points that it really seems you're sucking them off good. How much did they pay you to write nonsense and refer them? Every point I'm making you're not even trying to answer back to. I bring up Quake a lot when people talk about 'skill' and 'mistakes' in this game, acting as if anything requires much effort in a 4v1 gangbang where the 1 has to pray to the almighty Entity the 4 are weak.

    I've been bringing up that game so much, not only cause I got back into it recently, but it's an example of comparing balance. Quake has it and needs skill whereas DbD does not.

    Then why do you and they act as if it's up to Killers to mess up? Lemme go bring up some points about flashlights that work on idiots, if you don't do these then it's your fault and you deserve to lose reeeeee. When anyone with a brain knows they don't work. I've seen it in game, doesn't work on me, unless there's a wall there's no countering it.

    Lack of hardware isn't an excuse, so if such is true, then we both can't. This laptop is about as fast as paint drying. I just figured you being a troll on here you'd muster up some stupid reason as to why you won't do it, but hey, atleast you proved one thing right. Gotta count for something.

  • @Tsulan said:

    @Doom_Punk said:

    @Tsulan said:

    @ChraizE said:
    Nurse is too OP so I am happy for crutch perks like DS otherwise it would be survivors RQing. Can you imagine a god nurse with chilli and make your choice? give me a break! Nerf the nurse first then remove DS!!

    How about hiding? Or maybe... if survivors spend as much time evading the nurse, as a nurse player spends to master her, there wouldn´t be a problem.
    So it might just be a classical case of Git Gud!

    Spending some time to get better at this game? Pfft, what's that?

    Yeah, i know...
    Survivors got used to being spoonfed by the devs, that it´s to much to ask for to actually learn how things work. I´ve encountered only a handful of survivors which can actually juke a killer. They have all my respect, and i am not even mad at them, when they manage to juke me for several gens and escape.

    Same here, I have mad respect for those that can hide outside and inside of chases properly. It's hard to do and requires skill, which is why I enjoy it.

    I like being outplayed as it gives me learning experience. I've played games or mods in games that people are extremely good at, they kick my ass, and I still have a ton of fun, even if I didn't kill anyone.

    It gives me a goal I know I can look up to, which is improving and getting to a level like that.

    Wish DbD was the same.

  • @FoggyWeather_ said:
    So basically you get devotion and nothing happens?

    Shooks, thought that at least the amount of shards is getting higher

    Nope, it's just a number that I don't think you can even see unless you hover over player level. What a letdown, lol.

  • @Tsulan said:

    @ChraizE said:
    Nurse is too OP so I am happy for crutch perks like DS otherwise it would be survivors RQing. Can you imagine a god nurse with chilli and make your choice? give me a break! Nerf the nurse first then remove DS!!

    How about hiding? Or maybe... if survivors spend as much time evading the nurse, as a nurse player spends to master her, there wouldn´t be a problem.
    So it might just be a classical case of Git Gud!

    Spending some time to get better at this game? Pfft, what's that?

  • @akbays35 said:

    @Dwight_Fairfield said:

    @akbays35 said:

    @Dwight_Fairfield said:
    Not for me. I've tried both, and playing as survivor is more intense, and more fun, too.

    Certain killers create more tension and scares than others. Michael Myers for example is always guaranteed the tension and scares for me. Always looking over my shoulder in a Michael match. Trapper has me constantly paranoid about where I'm walking, especially in maps with lots of tall grass.

    look trolling is fun and all, but this is a serious issue with the game. Survivor is one part afk gen repair, one part running in a circle, one part left clicking on team mates. Killer requires way more mechanical, strategic, and focus gameplay while frankly being under siege by a group that have more tools at their disposal than you. Not only that you spend more time fighting with the map more than the survivors.

    Trolling is not fun to me. I get that killers have more to contend with, but a competent killer with the right perks can own a map. I've seen them do it many times, and I play SWF. We've had our ass handed to us, or really had to fight to have at least one survive against a good killer.

    This isn't a good vs. bad argument it's about how DBD actually fails to deliver on a terrifying experience for the survivor and a threatening experience for the killer. Killers shouldn't have to fight the mechanics of the game, and the maps the devs create, and survivors need more to do than gens and unhook team mates.

    The good 'ole days when Killers felt like a huge threat.

    Back when Shape came out and it was terrifying as hell... good times.

  • @Khalednazari said:
    Nice. I might get Urban Evasion. 

    Or, as the Survivor mains would say it, Urban Immersion.

    Misinterpreting the meanings of words is fun for Survivors to do I notice.

  • @Paddy4583 said:
    Beardedragon said:

    funny how it takes them so long to fix something when they already know now its a problem.

    Oh yes devs, don’t waste time on bugs please remove DS first that’s the biggest issue the game has right now

    Bugs don't make people leave, trash balance does.

  • In regards to that tournament too, I think almost everyone was Nurse, so that was a battle of skill. The rest of DbD isn't.

  • @only1biggs said:

    @Doom_Punk said:

    @only1biggs said:
    I really think you're trolling at this point. You offer nothing but memes.

    Uhh, you realize you just spoke about yourself and the rest of your buddies?

    Yikes.

    Also it's not hard to play like they do. Anybody can. They were Killer mains that claimed themselves they weren't that good at Survivor.

    They proved how bad the balance is. Marth is one of the actual good Killers and has some common sense to see balance issues instead of pretend every loss was on him (barring Nurse).

    Look, everyone knows the game is unbalanced and nobody has said otherwise..we're talking about this video and the amount of ######### plays made and flashlight counters etc... You KEEP saying the same ######### and expecting different things.

    I thought Marth was good too, then I saw him pick up a survivor facing away from a wall that he was stood next to and then was outwardly shocked at being flashlighted and then complained about it, like it wasn't his mistake that made him lose the kill. He KNEW flashlights were in play.

    Then he ######### up the tournament and lost and couldn't take it that HE made a mistake. HE ######### up and lost and a bunch of other idiots here actually tried defending him. People just like you.

    Cause of me trying to change some typos, comment approval. Why is this a thing? Steam's forums didn't require approval to fix some letters, christ.

  • @only1biggs said:

    @Doom_Punk said:

    @only1biggs said:

    @Doom_Punk said:

    @only1biggs said:

    @Doom_Punk said:

    @only1biggs said:

    @ZombieGenesis said:

    @only1biggs said:
    It's funny you say that, when most of the better players of this game share the same views as me.

    You're basing that statement on what? It's certainly not the experience I've had on this board, the steam board, or reddit.

    Aren't you usually pretty cool? Why are you getting mixed up in this? :/

    I'm basing my statement off players I watch on Twitch that are good at the game and don't automatically resort to blaming everything else before themselves.

    IE Streamers with no personality that are average at the game but still have to play it 24/7 because that's how they got most of their viewers.

    Of course they won't blame themselves, they're a bunch of sheep.

    Uhh, you realize you just spoke about yourself and the rest of your buddies?

    Yikes.

    I don't stream and I don't think anybody else in this discussion does.

    I'm talking about streamers like Tofu, Scott, Zubat, etc. No personality but they have to play the game 24/7.

    Yikes, reading is hard.

    The last part of your quote, dummy. "Of course they won't blame themselves, they're a bunch of sheep."

    smh

    I realize I worded that wrong, will fix it.

    But regardless, that's what those average, no personality streamers that you suck off hard do. They act as if losses were on them when it was clearly terrible balance from this game.

    "But people lose sometimes, so what?"

    Really would be interested to watch you play this game.

    You and this "sucking off" nonsense again? Did I say you suck off Marth? Nope. Because I'm not a weirdo.

    How about you do the same and not project this weird #########, huh?

    And they are more than happy to bash the game when all they see are a field of pallets or a gross setup with 3 jungle gyms and saftey pallets...but when they make mistakes, they say stuff like "oh well, I played badly, I don't deserve the win". They do the best with what's in front of them. They don't moan and shout at the game like a moronic child.

    And I'd LOVE to see you play, but that can't happen can it? As you stopped playing this game, right?

    Due to them being sheep, of course. They like to act as if they make mistakes and lose because of them, when it's entirely up to the Survivors to be making the mistakes, not the Killer. Average streamers.

    I wish I could record but I can't right now because of hardware limitations. But as I'm not the one making troll posts like yours and acting as if they're real solutions, I asked you first. Will you come up with an excuse to not record or will you back down?

    I can't even see jack ######### on your Steam profile either, it's completely private. Private profiles almost always are the trolls it seems.

  • If this game wasn't a gangbang simulator and a stress test for Killers, this wouldn't even be an issue.

    But alas, bad balance.

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