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@Lateral said:
Welcome to DBD. This game is made for Killers enjoyment, Survivors are merely NPC's with players behind them.Killers, because every multiplayer game needs an easy-mode, hand-held, babied crutch class corrosively eating away at the games community from within.
And why is it this way? because killers /cried damn hard for their endless catalog of buffs and survivor nerfs.
BS meter just blew up on that post...so much bs in this post it broke the meter...
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@mistar_z said:
@AlexAnarchy said:
@mistar_z said:
@AlexAnarchy said:
wow, a purple addon that you don't see on every single legion out there makes them impossible to win against...Just remember, the devs made legion to be a fun killer, not a balanced one...another pretty good job so far on the thinking department..
Because iridescent head is so fun also. 😂
Pink addon that you see even less.. Bad argument...
I'm not arguing with I read that as you being sarcastic, don't get it tilted.🙄
there's something really wrong with the bloodwebs I have like 50 pink ones and maybe just 20 purple ones. XDYikes, you lucky as heck then...I have seen maybe 4 in total of 1600 hours...
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@mistar_z said:
@AlexAnarchy said:
wow, a purple addon that you don't see on every single legion out there makes them impossible to win against...Just remember, the devs made legion to be a fun killer, not a balanced one...another pretty good job so far on the thinking department..
Because iridescent head is so fun also. 😂
Pink addon that you see even less.. Bad argument...
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@Jake_Parks_prince said:
Hi killer main here I'd just like to start off by saying in my 1200 hours of DBD across all 3 platforms the only one which I encountered survivors who were toxic toxic was PS4. Other then on PC i have a solid 300 hours and I've had little to no end game toxicity other then when I play survivor and the killer goes "GG EZ noob team." on my 900 hours on xbox I have received 3 end game anger chats. Thats it. It really isn't survivors being toxic because most things survivors do is well needed to survive the match. Pallet looping, is needed to live, 360's is needed to live sometimes, blinds are meh in needs, DS is a basic perk that I haven't had much problem although that may just be luck, and unhooks and body blocking are just what any altruistic survivor would do. Unless a survivor is tea bagging and constantly flash light clicking they aren't being toxic they're just doing what they can to survive. I don't camp, tunnel, or anything I still get 4 k's at rank 2 and I know you may think you aren't camping or tunneling but waiting for a survivor to get unhooked when you can easily run back and kill them is camping as well. It isn't a free unhook if you're good.Yeah, your pretty obviously not a killer main or even 50/50 player if you think half this stuff...Until we see Killers posting for people to ######### in mass, then claiming killers are the most toxic is not gonna ever be true...
This was one hell of a bad attempt to even try making yourself sound like an even 50/50 player...
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wow, a purple addon that you don't see on every single legion out there makes them impossible to win against...
Just remember, the devs made legion to be a fun killer, not a balanced one...another pretty good job so far on the thinking department..
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Devs - Pallets and vaults will always be a risk if you poorly time them
Survivors- dedicated servers will fix this cuz it is due too lag I am being hit!
Killer mains and 50/50 players - Your still gonna get hit for bad timing on your parts...
Dedicated servers come out - Survivors still getting hit after bad drops or vaults.
Survivors - #########?
Killer mains and 50/50 players - We told you...
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@fluffybunny said:
I was under the impression that you don't get matched with blocked individuals. They really should give us the tools to avoid people if they've treated us poorly in a match or outside of a match. Farmers and toxic individuals, for instance. I could do without both. I'm sure it's possible and I'm sure it wouldn't affect matches all that much if they can figure out how to just disable the ability to join lobbies with those people. Even if people use it to avoid good killers, that would mean the people using it would just have the affected lobbies, right? If you don't misuse and abuse the system to just block everyone, you should still get lobbies no problem.Used too have it, survivors used to to block camping, tunneling or killers who just killed them at all, was removed cuz it was screwing up the lobby and matchmaking. Well deserved loss for all the abuse.
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Remember, the devs said Legion was gonna be a FUN killer , not a balanced one , they screwed up bigtime right from the moment they decided on that.
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Camping and tunneling are not against the rules, thus not an issue that needs fixing, get over it.
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This is not a quality of life update...this would make the game nothing but lobby sim entirely with how mass survivors d/c over just being downed once, The devs need to actually start punishing d/cing constantly so the epidemic stops.
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Nope...Needs to stay as long as SWF can abuse it...
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@Kaldrax said:
Camping isn't fun for anyone. The killer waits around doing nothing, which is boring and not tense. The person being camped usually gets tunnelled til they're dead, spending all their time on a hook, which is frustrating, and not tense or scary. The people trying to get a safe unhook usually can't bait the killer away, so they either trade or safely do gens, which isn't tense or scary.Camping turns Dead By Daylight from a fun and exciting horror game into a dead and unexciting one.
The game would be much better if killers had to be a certain distance away from hooked survivors for the sacrifice bar to progress.
fun and exciting horror game...where your running a killer around a piece of wood...and then whining on the forums cuz the killer made sure you die afterwords...
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@Bongbingbing said:
Spirit was such a good Killer, on both sides, She brought in a fun play style and guessing games for survivors.Legion was just the opposite, He was designed to be fun to both but ended up being one of the most annoying killers. He was also designed not to be viable in comparison to some of the other killers which is it's own problem entirely.
I really hope they have learned from Legion but I'll wait till the next killer to make that judgement. and I hope to god they don't purposely make another weak Killer, It'd be nice to see killer variety at higher ranks.
Next killer is gonna heal survivors by hitting them, I know it...
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@Lateral said:
One shot down from 100% health is a toxic crutch that takes out all semblance of skill, nuance and strategy in place of babied Killer hand-holding and needs to be removed from the game.But it wont because /favouritism.
@Aari_Piggy66 said:
Sorry but if your whole team gets downed and killed because of noed you guys are just as nooby as you claim the killer is.There, translated. Fixed that for you:
Such a huge crutch it literally can only happen when survivors allow it too : P
I'm also gonna steal your gif here and use it for DS, SC, Adrenaline, dead hard, swf threads.. -
@Gemasuda said:
It’s very apparent that reading comprehension isn’t your forte. If you are hooked once and then camped off hook that makes you a sore loser? Stop being so killer sided and look at it from the other side of the fence. The devs reduced points awarded by camping because it was such an issue. The point of this post is people rage quitting. I’m merely saying the style of play by the killer influence the frequency of disconnects. If you can’t wrap your “adult” brain around that then we are done talking.Camping and tunneling are legit gameplay strategies...if you have an issue with that then dbd is perhaps not a game you should be playing quite clearly.. In no way was them lowering the points for camping meant to stop camping...
Survivors half the time are d/cing just after being downed once now, if your adult brain can't wrap around the fact it is not hardly just about camping and tunneling then there's no reason for you to be speaking about the issue...
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@Sinner said:
You guys aren't seeing the big picture. Considering how huge the DC problem got, there is clearly something wrong with the game, not with the players.My money is on the ranking system. Balance wise it seems okish. I'd just nerf nurse and billy.
Very rarerly it happens that I get good teammates at rank 1 vs a good killer and it ends up in a 1-2k fun game. Usually I die or get the hatch, cause of bad teammates.
Suggesting to add harsher bans is ridiculous at this stage. They'll have to ban like half the playerbase. What they need to do is fix the ranking system (make it how you do in a chase count like 80% towards pip), rank hacking and boosting and after that see what balance issues they have.
Not really, the game itself is not the issue, people will abuse and do anything they want and do more and more of it as long as they are allowed to do just that.. As for nerfing nurse and billy....really now?
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@Gemasuda said:
It’s also fair to take away some of the killers blood points if they play like a d bagSorry bud but camping and tunneling are not the killer playing like a D bag, but hey, you wanna be that way? let's make survivors lose pips and BP for looping in return.
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@DevalManson said:
I purely think they need to make penalties for killers that tunnel and camp. Like if a killer got someone down once then goes for them again to soon they get slow down when going for them unless they go for someone else then back to them again. And sitting by the hooked survivor should make them have like a fall asleep cool down. Like they cannot move cause they fell asleep for like 5 sec, each time they stay near the hooked survivor they get a sec added on. It would even that bull ######### out.or they can just lower the bloodpoints for doing tunneling or camping. I mean they added that survivors cannot just keep vaultung through the same window and they changed the way people cannot keep running around things they added more ######### so people cannot run away as easy. They think theres to much for survivors but people survive only 5% of the time out of 100% so this game is not balanced for anyone. Just the killers get everything cause they are put off as a victim of being taken advantage of. But survivors wouldn't be doing that trolling ######### if killers didn't tunnel or camp. So. It needs to be fixed. Tunneling and camping is a form of taking the game hostage. And it makes nothing fun for anyone except the killer which is wrong cause everyone should have fun. Also from many experiences killers and survivors are very picky choosy over characters. Like female characters get more love then males. The killers go for jeff or bill or tapp or adam 99% of the time if they come into view near a female character. Ik people will be like nah thats not it but from my own experiences and most of my friends as well its happened. I just wish they would make the game fair for everyone not just the killers.Sighs.... stopped reading after first sentence...
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@Detective_Jonathan said:
Picks LegionStill on your hatred for legion riot are'nt you?...
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@Orion said:
@AlexAnarchy said:
@Sinner said:
So far, every hint they posted for previous killers was actually tied to it, I don't see why Mali would just be the internal name this time and not an actual hint, when she said it was a hint.Remember when they said the next killer was gonna be the one furthest back in the past? Then we got the millenial killer aka legion...
The one after the Legion was taken from the furthest point in the past, relative to all the others we've had up until this point.
After legion, I am almost terrified the next killer is going to heal survivors by hitting them but hey, it will be a FUN killer as the devs put it...
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@TigerKirby215 said:
Wow a full year of Killers and they had one bad apple. GG ######### devs can't do anything right I'm going back to F13.
Can we stop acting like Legion suddenly means that the game is dead and beyond repair? Legion is one out of 14 Killers. They're the newest Killer in the game and have therefor had the least testing, meaning that the devs had the least devs to balance the Killer around. Every new Killer is going to have a degree of imbalance: Spirit was kinda shmeh when they released her and then she got overbuffed to the point of being A+ tier. Clown is still littered with bugs that people ignore because "his power is good" and they'd rather concentrate on more "broken" Killers. (And the fact that Clown is boring in a lot of people's eyes and he's rather unpopular as a result.)
Michael Myers came before (pre-buff) Hag. Freddy came before Pig. Spirit came before Legion. There will be hits and there will be misses. But Hag's rework proves that a Killer can always be salvaged. Don't say that something can't be fixed when it's been out for less than a month.Spirit was terrible in ptb, Clown is badly unbalanced...and legion is....legion... what can we expect next? A killer who heals the survivors by hitting them?
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@Sinner said:
So far, every hint they posted for previous killers was actually tied to it, I don't see why Mali would just be the internal name this time and not an actual hint, when she said it was a hint.Remember when they said the next killer was gonna be the one furthest back in the past? Then we got the millenial killer aka legion...
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Opening post = entitlement at it's finest yet again.
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@Dwight_Fairfield said:
I never dodge a Legion lobby. That's an easy escape. Makes for a tedious (not challenging) match with all the mending/healing baloney. But still an easy escape.This 100%, I mean survivors literally got what they wanted with legion, a killer who cannot down them easily if at all but hey...it really shows survivors skill level when they ca'nt even escape a killer who's not looking at them.
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It's a killer issue so expect it to either never be fixed or takes months.
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Op is an obvious Killer main btw meme post folks
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@Thaznar said:
Making DW bar not to progress in the TR is also a bad idea because it will just create Insidious meta which also can be used to cheese the mechanic. It should be distance based or just reworked somehow. I am not a fan of this Deep Wound idea, also not a fan of this new killer, because he is trash tier, yet annoying to play as and up against.They could always simply make Deep wounds have some form of actual pressure too it by it not holding the survivors hands at 99% , just make it take a bit longer to compensate so if the legion keeps the chase, they waste even more precious time, but this will at least make Legion have actual pressure.
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@Vietfox said:
@AlexAnarchy said:
@Vietfox said:
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@Vietfox said:
The_Crusader said:Does it matter if theres no counter play? Theres none to DS and no dribbling doesn't count because its very situational and survivors will often run to areas with no hooks to trigger it.
I'm tired of these double standards on the survivor side.
@The_Crusader
DS is a game feature, thus DS is not an exploit.
Moonwalking as legion is an exploit because was never intended and there are no counters for it.so since you claiming moonwalking is an exploit because it was unintended then you also admit pallet looping, gentapping and dribbling are exploits since they also are not intended?
I mean the literal counter to moonwalking is simply not running in a straight line...the killer is not even looking at you so how can you not lose them?
I wouldn't call pallet looping an exploit, neither dibbling since gives more chances to survivors to perform flashlights saves.
Yeah, i think gentapping is an exploit.Killer just needs to follow the bloodtrail while moonwalking, doesn't even need scratchmarks.
Then explain how do the devs will fix a killer stopping chase?
If they put it on his TR then survivors can abuse his TR or legion can just use insidious, the worst part about this issue is there really is no fixing it unless the devs do exactly what they already said they would, which is make it legion won't have to moonwalk for downs, which simply means, more buffs to legion.
I'm not here to tell anyone how to fix it, we are here talking about exploits. If you want to know how they will fix it go ask the devs, not me.
Devs have said already that it wasn't intended and if it becomes something common they'll be forced to fix it, meaning that moonwalking as Legion IS an exploit that devs don't want around.they never said they would be forced to fix it, they said they would have to make changes so he does'nt have to do that, once again how are the devs going to somehow fix a killer stopping chase? They ca'nt, should be simple knowledge at this point that they ca'nt fix this kind of issue and also gonna state again, if your stating moonwalking is an exploit cuz it is unintended then you must also admit pallet looping, gentapping and dribbling are exploits as well cuz they too are unintended.
Don't get where this logic keeps coming from that one thing unintended is an exploit but other unintended things are not exploits, must be something only survivor mains understand I guess...normally we call this being a hypocrite.
Too admit though, we should see less of it when the new legion buffs go through like franks mixtape being base. Though not really a great buff cuz it just makes legion another chase killer : (
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@Mc_Harty said:
@AlexAnarchy said:
Then explain how do the devs will fix a killer stopping chase?If they put it on his TR then survivors can abuse his TR or legion can just use insidious, the worst part about this issue is there really is no fixing it unless the devs do exactly what they already said they would, which is make it legion won't have to moonwalk for downs, which simply means, more buffs to legion.
Or a [BAD WORD] rework.
Yeah, there's an option as well~
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@Vietfox said:
@AlexAnarchy said:
@Vietfox said:
The_Crusader said:Does it matter if theres no counter play? Theres none to DS and no dribbling doesn't count because its very situational and survivors will often run to areas with no hooks to trigger it.
I'm tired of these double standards on the survivor side.
@The_Crusader
DS is a game feature, thus DS is not an exploit.
Moonwalking as legion is an exploit because was never intended and there are no counters for it.so since you claiming moonwalking is an exploit because it was unintended then you also admit pallet looping, gentapping and dribbling are exploits since they also are not intended?
I mean the literal counter to moonwalking is simply not running in a straight line...the killer is not even looking at you so how can you not lose them?
I wouldn't call pallet looping an exploit, neither dibbling since gives more chances to survivors to perform flashlights saves.
Yeah, i think gentapping is an exploit.Killer just needs to follow the bloodtrail while moonwalking, doesn't even need scratchmarks.
Then explain how do the devs will fix a killer stopping chase?
If they put it on his TR then survivors can abuse his TR or legion can just use insidious, the worst part about this issue is there really is no fixing it unless the devs do exactly what they already said they would, which is make it legion won't have to moonwalk for downs, which simply means, more buffs to legion.
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@Tzeentchling9 said:
PinkEricka said:
Keene_Kills said:The killer doesn't see this continual blood geyser... at least I haven't seen it in the trial when survivors brought it up afterwards. I get the same response when playing survivor and experiencing it and discussing it with the Wraith I was up against. Certainly not an "exploit." That being said, it is fairly annoying and needs dev attention.
@Keene_Kills It’s an exploit when they’re purposefully using it to their advantage knowing the bug is there.
Frame rates dropping equals lag, lag that equals to unfair hits.
Or it could be that Sloppy Butcher is an incredibly useful perk for M1 killers without any map pressure. thinking
It's not like most killers have been using the perk even before the bug right? thinking as well
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@PinkEricka said:
Keene_Kills said:The killer doesn't see this continual blood geyser... at least I haven't seen it in the trial when survivors brought it up afterwards. I get the same response when playing survivor and experiencing it and discussing it with the Wraith I was up against. Certainly not an "exploit." That being said, it is fairly annoying and needs dev attention.
@Keene_Kills It’s an exploit when they’re purposefully using it to their advantage knowing the bug is there.
Frame rates dropping equals lag, lag that equals to unfair hits.
bugs and exploits are not the same thing silly : P that's just saddening to try and even attempt.
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@AlexAnarchy said:
@Master said:
@Detective_Jonathan said:
If you don't know what i mean, there is something with Legion where if you walk backwards or look away, you break the chase with the survivor and can track them while their mend timer goes down, this will force the survivor to either be forced to go down or let the killer hit them. Some people call this an exploit, others say otherwise. Quite frankly i would like to see a debate in the forums do you think it's an exploit and should be addressed by the devs? Or do you think it's an effective use of the killer and should be left alone.Why would this be an exploit? This is how chase detection has worked for ages now, its intended and not a bug/exploit
Because detective and scottjund say it is so apperantly and they are the rule makers of the game now, not the devs it seems.
You'll especially notice this well by the fact this is the only thread about this apperantly huge issue.
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@Dragonredking said:
I can wait for the dev to take the lazy option like usual and make chase based on terror radius to fix it, then everyone will screech because it will buff bloodlust in the progress because they didn't think about it.Legions will just use insidious at that point.
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@Master said:
@Detective_Jonathan said:
If you don't know what i mean, there is something with Legion where if you walk backwards or look away, you break the chase with the survivor and can track them while their mend timer goes down, this will force the survivor to either be forced to go down or let the killer hit them. Some people call this an exploit, others say otherwise. Quite frankly i would like to see a debate in the forums do you think it's an exploit and should be addressed by the devs? Or do you think it's an effective use of the killer and should be left alone.Why would this be an exploit? This is how chase detection has worked for ages now, its intended and not a bug/exploit
Because detective and scottjund say it is so apperantly and they are the rule makers of the game now, not the devs it seems.
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@Orion said:
@Detective_Jonathan said:
This thing has gone on for 4 pages now to the point to where Scottjund himself had to comment on it, This just shows how serious of an issue this is for the game. If you do this as a killer, you're not good at chasing and you never will be, If you have never done this, then you are on your way to being a good killer, because the only way you'll ever be good is through practice and persistence.Who the hell is Scottjund?
@FoggyDownpour said:
I don't find it to be an exploit, just a way to play. An exploit would mean someone was taking something that was flat out never intended, like getting on top of the killer shack. Moonwalking while tracking a survivor isn't what I would call an exploit, it's just generally douchy.You think it's intended for chases to avoid triggering the actual chase conditions?
Scottjund is a streamer that for some reason detective thinks is the ultimate voice on what is wrong to do in dbd and what is'nt, even higher than the devs apperantly.
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@Vietfox said:
The_Crusader said:Does it matter if theres no counter play? Theres none to DS and no dribbling doesn't count because its very situational and survivors will often run to areas with no hooks to trigger it.
I'm tired of these double standards on the survivor side.
@The_Crusader
DS is a game feature, thus DS is not an exploit.
Moonwalking as legion is an exploit because was never intended and there are no counters for it.so since you claiming moonwalking is an exploit because it was unintended then you also admit pallet looping, gentapping and dribbling are exploits since they also are not intended?
I mean the literal counter to moonwalking is simply not running in a straight line...the killer is not even looking at you so how can you not lose them?
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hits multiple poeple, currently the way it is, Mend will hold the survivors hands then in making sure none of them go down due to deep wounds applying zero pressure since it stops at 99%, congrats, you hit 4 people but 3 of them healed with no effort at all.
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Legion is two spots too high...
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@GodDamn_Angela said:
@Dwight_Confusion said:
@Master said:
@Dwight_Confusion said:
I'm currently rank 3 and I owned a 3 swf team 1 solo todaySo git gud kiddo
wooaaahhh teach me senpai
2 days ago I 4ked a 4 man with doc and no gen was done, does that make him a viable killer? no
Right.
So the minority controls the majority? That is what you're saying.
Just because a few people can't adapt quickly doesn't meant he killer is trash. Id on't even use ruin dude...
save it.
I feel like something just doesn't make sense here.
One sec.
The majority: Legion is weak
The minority: Legion is fine/strong
Hmm...
You: Legion is fine/strong
Also You: " So the minority controls the majority? That is what you're saying."
???
Alright, I'm officially lost. Can someone help me here.
it's the side effects only bad trolls can experience of running over ther own statements and points.
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@Dwight_Confusion said:
@Master said:
@Dwight_Confusion said:
I'm currently rank 3 and I owned a 3 swf team 1 solo todaySo git gud kiddo
wooaaahhh teach me senpai
2 days ago I 4ked a 4 man with doc and no gen was done, does that make him a viable killer? no
Right.
So the minority controls the majority? That is what you're saying.
Just because a few people can't adapt quickly doesn't meant he killer is trash. Id on't even use ruin dude...
save it.
simply saddeningly pathetic lvl of trolling...
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@Might_Oakk said:
@AlexAnarchy said:
@Might_Oakk said:
It's a cheese tactic and will be changed to terror radius. Nerfing Legion and buffing BT.So don't cry after the change if you do it.
Wouldn't call it an exploit though
changing too TR would be beyond stupid as survivors will then abuse the Legions TR.
Do you play Legion? It would be far more difficult to abuse. If you are just standing around the survivor will mend. Right now survivors are defenceless I follow them to any pallet and they are helpless.
and give them the ability to abuse the legions TR and it will be the exact same issue from when the devs tried too make the survivor not lose any timer if the killer camped the hook they was on, the very fact someone would even post making it TR based is warrant for suspicion and worry,
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@Might_Oakk said:
It's a cheese tactic and will be changed to terror radius. Nerfing Legion and buffing BT.So don't cry after the change if you do it.
Wouldn't call it an exploit though
changing too TR would be beyond stupid as survivors will then abuse the Legions TR.
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@Mc_Harty said:
@AlexAnarchy said:
please post where they stated this exactly?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AauEJmetASoSomewhere here if I remember right. I'll post the time slot later.
not gonna watch the whole thing for the answer but if they are actually gonna do that then they better make legions intended way of play actually work or they can just be asking why no one is playing legion, the same way they do for clown.
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@Mc_Harty said:
Considering the devs state they'll change it if it becomes the norm... Yes, ab-[BAD WORD]-solutely.please post where they stated this exactly?
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@LegitAdventurer said:
AlexAnarchy said:@LegitAdventurer said:
I still don't get why people are saying he's useless? He's basically a better The Spirit.
Okay...now we know this dude is false...even trolls can be more subtle than to state this...
Someone has a different opinion than you, must be a troll.
opinions are not facts, A fact is the fact literally no one said legion was OP in the ptb.
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@ScottJund said:
@Blueberry said:
@Peanits said:
I will say that if you're using their power to repeatedly hit the same survivor, you're using it wrong. It's designed to injure multiple survivors at once, not to get kills. Hitting the same survivor repeatedly with it is just shooting yourself in the foot.Whether or not it needs buffs I won't argue, though.
So after that we're supposed to chase someone down for the second hit with an M1 attack as a Huntress with no hatchets? That's the intent?
Yes that's actually what they intend.
Its stupid, but that's what they designed him like.
Exactly why folks are moon walking and stalking with legion, his intended way of play simply does not work with how he is currently, nor does it work with how the game is actually played.
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Cuz it was needed in order to guarantee that deep wounds applies no pressure at all still.
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Remember folks, survivors can gen tap, pallet loop, and block the legion from jumping over pallets some are reporting but how dare the killer break chase and stalk them like an actual killer would.
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@Speshul_Kitten said:
Stop posting these, the killer mains will either call them potato survivors or come up with another excuse as to how Legion isn’t really good now matter what proof you have.Waiting on proof then too gaurantee us all of how good the legion is then.