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@ScottJund said:
@Yaboi_Gengarboi said:
ScottJund said:@Caretaker said:
@ScottJund said:
I'm sorry but have you ever played Survivor against Frank's mixtape? It is literally the most non-interactive boring ######### in this entire game. You get hit by an unavoidable frenzy hit, they wait 12 seconds for cooldown, then hit you again with an unavoidable frenzy hit and you go down.
You have to be crazy to think that has to be baseline.
I forgot you can't bait pallets or stun them. Rip my idea. I guess only Nurse or Billy is allowed to do it.
Okay so you wait at a pallet. He runs near it, then runs back. You waste the pallet, he vaults it, and you die.
You wait at a pallet. He just lunges through it and you die.
You wait a pallet. You drop it, he swings through, and with new pallets he downs you anyway and gets stunned.
You wait at a pallet. You drop it and actually stun him.
You win 25% of these scenarios.
This is assuming you even have a pallet in 12 seconds.
New pallets? You mean the ones that no longer teleport you or grant invincibility? They still stun fine for me if you time it right. Yes, he has little counterplay in a chase, but ONLY in a chase. A chase that still takes just about half a minute to complete. Outside of that, he has almost nothing BUT counterplay.
Besides, when we consider changing things to ensure survivors have fun, we get Freddy, and Trapper and Leatherface and Clown. Huntress, Hillbilly and Hag have counterplay, yet they are among the strongest killers in the game. How could that be? Because they didn't wrap the survivors in bubble wrap with reflective tape before sending them out against that killer.
My point is it does not take half a minute to complete with Frank's Mixtape, which people are saying should be default. It takes literally one recharge of your power which is like 10-15 seconds.
Again none of this counters my point about the extreme lack of fun. You even said it yourself, no real counterplay in a chase, which is the only part the involves the other survivors. So you're saying every single time a survivor is in a chase, he pretty much has no options, which is awful game design.
God forbid the fact every other killer can down you in two hits so why should'nt legion be able too as well right?
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@ScottJund said:
@Caretaker said:
@ScottJund said:
I'm sorry but have you ever played Survivor against Frank's mixtape? It is literally the most non-interactive boring ######### in this entire game. You get hit by an unavoidable frenzy hit, they wait 12 seconds for cooldown, then hit you again with an unavoidable frenzy hit and you go down.You have to be crazy to think that has to be baseline.
I forgot you can't bait pallets or stun them. Rip my idea. I guess only Nurse or Billy is allowed to do it.
Okay so you wait at a pallet. He runs near it, then runs back. You waste the pallet, he vaults it, and you die.
You wait at a pallet. He just lunges through it and you die.
You wait a pallet. You drop it, he swings through, and with new pallets he downs you anyway and gets stunned.
You wait at a pallet. You drop it and actually stun him.
You win 25% of these scenarios.
This is assuming you even have a pallet in 12 seconds.
what part of his power would have too hit you two more times still did you forget?
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Survivor mains trying to protect ther easy win killer in the replies.
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clicking the button * Play survivor* Already makes you win against Legion provided your not a potato.
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Good job, you won against potato survivors.
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@White_Owl said:
@AlexAnarchy said:
@White_Owl said:
I've seen it a lot of times (and it happened to me a couple times) since the introduction of this feature, and most of the times it happens when the survivor is basically on the other side of the pallet.
Personaly I dislike this mechanic, which looks bad (the survivor just drops down like a bag of potatoes) and as I said leads to hits that shouldn't have been. Even as killer it feels bs honestly, because if the survivor managed to get to a dropped pallet in time he shouldn't get downed without any counterplay. Instantly destroying a pallet with the survivor right in range for another chainsaw hit already seems good to me.
TL;DR Cutting both a pallet and the survivor is a bad mechanic and should be removedHelp! I poorly timed a pallet drop or vault and got hit or downed, Pls nerf instead of me getting better at the game!
Help! I poorly timed my chainsaw but luckily a bad mechanic compensates for me and allowed me to get a hit I would have never got a couple months ago!
If the chainsaw was gonna hit you or destory the pallet, either one going was not a poorly timed hit...facepalms Loses more faith in survivor mains ability to even think before negating ther own silly posts everyday.
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@SK92 said:
This is really getting much boring .. buff legion buff legion buff legion New killer is fine.. not op and not weakThe fact that survivors should adapt and change playstyle depending on the killer they're up against, the same here for killers
You gotta know what can this killer do and where's the weaknesses and go from there
You can't use him exactly as any other killer
If you think this killer is not good for you, simply change killer that you might be good/ skilled with (not everyone can use Nurse or Huntress properly)
This killer is really ANNOYING and people want him to have 115% movement speed ? Oh pls .. ez 4k every game ?
Look at spirit where people asked for buff and now she's even better than hillbilly with just 110% .. going against decent spirit is really boring now
Also same for Freddy and Wraith .. they're not weak
They're good in the right hands
What drugs are you on and can we all have some too think the same way?
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######### drugs you on and can we all have some too come up with that conclusion?
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@Youkari said:
Its already proclaimed from the devs they won't buff his movement speed... similar like people wanted Hag to gain 115% before her patch months ago... so even though ur reasoning is logical, the devs will rather work outside the 115% buff instead. In my personal opinion a legit choice as Legion has a strong core ability (faster movement speed on activity, overcoming defenses easily by speed vaulting, crowdcontrol tracking and passive potential lethal threat) just a slight miscalculation can make Legion next to Nurse without that skill requirement... but now he's far from being Nurse tier/high tier but also far from low tier considering the objectives for killers outside of killing... so what he needs are tweaks on his power like no harsh power reset on normal hits, fatigue duration/cooldown replenishment on manual cancellation of frenzy as well making survivors suffering both exposed and deep wound ailments at the same time getting downed even with frenzy... and maybe other tweaks we may not think of as of nowActually, it was stated they possibly could make him 115% but they'd have to take a look again at his power which easily means, they'd give him 115% but then make sure he's nerfed hard enough for it to still not matter.
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@White_Owl said:
@DemonDaddy said:
The only safe moment of pallet interaction should be when we are on the opposite side of a dropped one. Pallets really aren't wide enough to warrant a safe slide if they are that close.You know you can get downed just by standing still close the pallet while the killer cuts it from the other side?
get the heck away from the pallet then ever come too mind?
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@White_Owl said:
I've seen it a lot of times (and it happened to me a couple times) since the introduction of this feature, and most of the times it happens when the survivor is basically on the other side of the pallet.
Personaly I dislike this mechanic, which looks bad (the survivor just drops down like a bag of potatoes) and as I said leads to hits that shouldn't have been. Even as killer it feels bs honestly, because if the survivor managed to get to a dropped pallet in time he shouldn't get downed without any counterplay. Instantly destroying a pallet with the survivor right in range for another chainsaw hit already seems good to me.
TL;DR Cutting both a pallet and the survivor is a bad mechanic and should be removedHelp! I poorly timed a pallet drop or vault and got hit or downed, Pls nerf instead of me getting better at the game!
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@donato said:
It's so easily counterable when it's on the obsession and it's very unlikely to activate when it's on a non-obsession player. How exactly is this perk too strong?And yet, next we'll hear someone else saying NOED needs a nerf when it's so easily countered by just breaking totems.
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@LegitAdventurer said:
I still don't get why people are saying he's useless? He's basically a better The Spirit.Okay...now we know this dude is false...even trolls can be more subtle than to state this...
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@LegitAdventurer said:
So during beta testing everyone was screaming that Legion was OP. And now everyone is saying he's useless, worst killer, etc.I'm currently enjoying him a lot. I played like about 8 game's with him and 5 of them were all 4k matches. And I had at least 2 others i had at least 2 picks. And these were in top tier matches.
Now ive deranked because of the season ending, so I dont really count these current game's as a real test of skill. But not only is Legion really good, but he's a TON of fun to play. Especially if played properly. I've been watching streams of these "NUMBER 1 LEGION PLAYER IN THE WORLD I'M THE FLIPPING BEST LOOK AT HOW GREAT I AM" type streams, and they just play him like any other killer. And I'm like ??? You're playing him wrong lol. And then they just tunnel until they down a person. Which...is fine I guess? But when you're spamming your ability to catch and slap the same person over and over you're really not using Legion efficiently. You're supposed to be disruptive and all over the map.
So why don't YOU like Legion? What are your thoughts?
Uhhhh who the hell was saying legion was OP in the ptb? Must have been opposite day during the PTB for you if you saw anyone claiming he was op during ptb.
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@No_Cluie_Louis said:
@lasombra1979 said:
I am on the PS4 and I never have a wait time longer than 4 minutes. Usual wait time as a killer is maybe 2 minutes, if not a little less. Maybe the issue is with the entitled PC players, but I seen no issue as a lowly PS4 player.I was mainly talking about PC, as Ochidos moving to console itself shows, killers are way worse on console just cuz the controls r clunky, the divide is still pretty good
ochido moved to console cuz he got banned on pc... christ are you clueless.
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@No_Cluie_Louis said:
Anyone else noticed that killers have to wait 10+ minutes for a game? I sure have, and i don't know if any of you have noticed, but it isn't down to a glitchy matchmaking system, as that would slow survivor ques too. The reason is all the recent survivor nerfs / killer buffs. Constant complaining from a lot of killer mains has led to these changes, and sure, they may seem fair for killers, but the game should be unfair for killers. There's 4 players on one team, and one player on the other, so you need only 20% of players to actually want to play killer to get an even waiting time and fast ques. Instead killers just complained and complained, rather than trying to get better at the game, and now we have a bunch of idiots playing killer, no one playing survivor, and a broken game where no one can play how they like. I always said to stop moaning survivors were op, but all i got called was salty survivor main. Now look where you've got us...Yes, how dare anyone demand the proper balance of asymmetrical gaming where a power role is equal too a numbers role...smacks self on forehead over Op's sillyness Also , OP is likely a dwight wearing trappers mask, Killer main btw folks.
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@Carpemortum said:
AlexAnarchy said:@MhhBurgers said:
@purebalance said:
@Peanits said:
Doing it to counter borrowed time is not bannable. They could just heal to counter that anyway.
Doing it to hold the game hostage is bannable. If you grab a video of it and send it to support, we'll take care of it. Remember to report it in game too.
Ok so if survivors ever find a way to block a hook without the killer being able to hook them that better be left alone too.
Completely breaking the base game = outplaying a broken Perk. Love how your mind works.
But go on, make the basement safe too, see how long your queues get after BHVR starts continuously nerfing killers again.
heck, they don't even just nerf them but they make killers now who are already at the lowest they can go.
Nice. Someone else on the hivemind hate. So how much legion have you played? None? Yeah.
Legions fine. Next circle jerk arguement?
protecting your easy win against killer are'nt you? No need to reply, we all already know that's the agenda.
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@MhhBurgers said:
@AlexAnarchy said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@purebalance said:
@Peanits said:
Doing it to counter borrowed time is not bannable. They could just heal to counter that anyway.Doing it to hold the game hostage is bannable. If you grab a video of it and send it to support, we'll take care of it. Remember to report it in game too.
Ok so if survivors ever find a way to block a hook without the killer being able to hook them that better be left alone too.
Completely breaking the base game = outplaying a broken Perk. Love how your mind works.
But go on, make the basement safe too, see how long your queues get after BHVR starts continuously nerfing killers again.
heck, they don't even just nerf them but they make killers now who are already at the lowest they can go.
Yeah funny how ######### like doc and freddy get nerfed and [BAD WORD] nurse is untouched. Like holy hell what are these devs doing?
Oh I was talking about legion : P
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counter to legion, playing survivor at all.
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where in the heck did you find a meg you were able to beat using sprint burst? a survivor can outrun the legions power if they are even a small distance away from him when normally running.
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@MhhBurgers said:
@purebalance said:
@Peanits said:
Doing it to counter borrowed time is not bannable. They could just heal to counter that anyway.Doing it to hold the game hostage is bannable. If you grab a video of it and send it to support, we'll take care of it. Remember to report it in game too.
Ok so if survivors ever find a way to block a hook without the killer being able to hook them that better be left alone too.
Completely breaking the base game = outplaying a broken Perk. Love how your mind works.
But go on, make the basement safe too, see how long your queues get after BHVR starts continuously nerfing killers again.
heck, they don't even just nerf them but they make killers now who are already at the lowest they can go.
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Choosing freddy or playing trapper without setting traps is better.
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@Peanits said:
@AlexAnarchy said:
@Peanits said:
Theluckyboi said:Why not make him 120% speed? at the end he is a tiny killer and the main objective of his power is to be agile.
Making him faster than most killers would be a nice addition to him, perhaps even making him a decent killer
Because 115% was tested and was too much, so 120% would be bananas.
I do like the idea of making them 115% when charged, though. It would give the survivor some time to maintain the distance after the guaranteed hit.
Because legion is totally fine and viable as he is now?
I never said that, so I'm not sure why you assume I'm saying that. Just because they're weak doesn't mean that any buff is a good buff. With the way they're designed, it's very easy to go from weak to massively overpowered with a small change.
Oh I was'nt meaning this was said by you, but this seems to be what bhvr wants him as and too say that he is viable, aka fun the way he is? it's just pure insanity.
It just makes me wonder if this is just gonna be a thing now that every new killer has to be some kind of fight between the community and the devs just for simple viable abilities on the killers now cuz this is just an exact repeat of the same battle the community went through about spirit, now she's a higher tier killer true but this is the exact opposite this case.
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My usual question is, just how much more does the playerbase need to see from these devs to know they don't play the game enough or the understand the playerbase hardly as much as they try to let on? Cote is always the best one to prove it all everytime he pulls something like this.
Cuz simply any sane person knows that fun and being a viable character are hand in hand.
If it's fun but all you do is lose, then fun is going to be very short term.
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for entirely different reasons but yeah, that's an argument too make, an incredibly bad and flawed one but it was one.
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@Peanits said:
Theluckyboi said:Why not make him 120% speed? at the end he is a tiny killer and the main objective of his power is to be agile.
Making him faster than most killers would be a nice addition to him, perhaps even making him a decent killer
Because 115% was tested and was too much, so 120% would be bananas.
I do like the idea of making them 115% when charged, though. It would give the survivor some time to maintain the distance after the guaranteed hit.
Because legion is totally fine and viable as he is now?
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@feechima said:
@AlexAnarchy said:
@feechima said:
So there isn't less pallets on the maps, closed off windows to long loops, less safe pallets, and you're getting smoked on the best killer map...well damn? The game needs more pallets than most maps. The entire map except for two rooms one on top and bottom is a dead zone. Loops will always be a thing, there is no other way to efficiently evade a killer for more than 2 seconds, it's even harder to get from one safe zone to the next now. Also, I'm curious what alternative to looping do killer mains propose?
Looping itself has never been nerfed, learn the difference.
Successful looping is done by means of objects in the way, no? So you remove the means to loop, therefore stopping the loop short or preventing it from happening. Learn the difference. I mean I can loop around a pebble, but it doesn't make much of a difference in keeping me alive. Now if I loop through two windows and around a building then one of those windows are closed, I have less options to loop, now don't I?
Looping itself has never had any form of nerf, or are you suddenly having the loop blocked or your character unable to go that same way?
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people who say the legion is fine as it is are obviously survivors mains wearing trapper masks and saying OH BTW KILLER MAIN~
No one can actually in any realistic ideal state the legion is fine as it is when legion is making Freddy's tier go up 1.
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@Soronith said:
and the changes on live are much better than ptb, deep wounds going down while mending, not overshooting pallets, longer lunge, and no double stun meaning you can chase more with frenzy, so either you cant read or refuse to learn the changes and adaptmeant nothing at all when the mending still stops deep wounds at 99%, funny that you did'nt mention that.
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@Dehitay said:
@Maximus7 said:
@Dehitay said:
When you start your post by saying the most difficult killer to loop is the most loopable killer in the game, you kind of invalidate any credibility. Saying he's the most difficult killer to down survivors with would have made sense. But the most loopable killer? Obvious close minded bias is obvious.How is he not? His power doesn't down, so you have to chase without your power at 110. You won't catch any good survivor with that slow movement speed.
Because he invalidates the gap increasing from pallets and windows. Doesn't matter how crap he is at downing survivors. He still counters looping better than any other killer except maybe Nurse. You wouldn't say cheetas are slow because they can't fly. Likewise, it doesn't matter that they can't fly; they can run fast as hell.
man, just because he can vault pallets and windows does not counter looping, he ca'nt down you if he uses his power, it's simply stupid too say he counters looping.
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@feechima said:
So there isn't less pallets on the maps, closed off windows to long loops, less safe pallets, and you're getting smoked on the best killer map...well damn? The game needs more pallets than most maps. The entire map except for two rooms one on top and bottom is a dead zone. Loops will always be a thing, there is no other way to efficiently evade a killer for more than 2 seconds, it's even harder to get from one safe zone to the next now. Also, I'm curious what alternative to looping do killer mains propose?
Looping itself has never been nerfed, learn the difference.
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@Crizpen said:
On the plus side, they suggested making Billy's chainsaw apply Deep Wounds, so people stop complaining that Legion is underpowered.I guess this is the way of their thinking: mend shouldn't be affected by healing perks, so we'll nerf other killers.
They pull that level of bullshit and the game will be uninstalled by me and many others I am sure.
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@PigMainBigBrain said:
@Nikkiwhat said:
Developers stated any movement speed increase would make Legion overpowered..... sighs heavilyIt would make him overpowered. Imagine pig with an instant lunge that could vault pallets and stayed at a constant 115 movespeed. Thats what you'd get.
Pig can still down survivors with her power however so that's a bad comparison.
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@Barron said:
@DarkWo1f997 said:
If you’re being chased by the legion during a frenzy, he hits you, and starts looking for his next victim, you can mend immediately after he turns his attention away from you and completely negate his only somewhat useful power.This leads Legion players to tunnel aggressively because it’s not worth it to seek new targets. When the survivor mends successfully immediately after the Legion is looking for another target, some tend to turn around and look for the survivor they just broke away from to finish them off, giving the other two survivors that the killer did not manage to find during frenzy, a lot of time to do gens.
- Legion needs to be able to see survivors blood bubbles map wide upon frenzy hit
- while mending, the timer should only slow down by 25% or 50% instead of stopping it entirely.
- Increase base movement speed to the default killer speed instead of that of a sleepy turtle, this way the power is not needed to navigate the map AT ALL TIMES.
- IF you aren’t going to change the base movement speed, increase fury’s regeneration rate significantly to compensate for this and make Legion effectively a reliable burst killer.
If none of these changes seem reasonable to you, then:
remove his terror radius entirely while not in frenzy.
only remove scratch marks of survivors upon being struck during a frenzy
allow enduring to reduce the frenzy fatigue state duration.
So then you want a map wide BBQ and Chile aura reading perk upon hitting someone? So this means that stealth plays (Remember, stealth is the holy eucharist of 200IQ on these forums) are able to be countered every time someone is hit.
You also want it so mending continuously decreases? So then if you are hit and left, and you start mending at 15-20 percent, you are still going to go down into the dying state. So it's essentially a killer that is faster than survivors in every way that then has an increased likelihood of just insta-downing you? Yea, no thanks.
This was one of the worst killers they could've released. Either he's not good enough for 4k fantasies or he becomes every sweaty killer-mains wet dream and completely obliterates everyone in the game.
Only thing I could get behind is the increased movement speed to 115.
I'm starting to pick up that this person is a legion triggered survivor main...
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The legion is a well balanced killer who can get downs like any other killer can and deep wounds is even slightly threatening.
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If survivor is still running at you when you go ahead to get your CD done, then that survivor is a moron..
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Oh, no doubt that playing legion is fun, but ther viability is beyond saddening worse compared to spirit in ptb.
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And yet, survivors will still claim stealth is not possible.
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new killer is awesome, git gud
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How to beat Noed ahem Break totems..stop trying to whine about a perk that only works if your too lazy too stop it.
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Why is it everytime I come too the survivors area I see a post about trying to fix what is not broken?
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cuz the killer is how they always commercialize and hype up every new dlc, why would someone be super happy for another reskin?
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@Ihatelife said:
Wait a second..... If the killer is ''male'' gender...that means that survivor will be female <33333Freddy and quentin say hi
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and yet I still survive in 80% of my games as a solo survivor.
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@Ayeknill_lava said:
@ChesterTheMolester said:
Sorry but comparing it to actual, historical blackface is wrong.Unlike the real, nowadays very looked down upon Blackface, LF doesn't do it for mockery, its simply based on his habit of creating faces out of human skin, his most iconic mask, is white and he has an asian too. There is no evidence that it has been put in for actual racist intentions. Its Claudette having met the wrong man at the wrong time, like all the others.
Umm.... Are you serious? it is black face.. he is wearing a face that is black.. How do you not comprehend that? Leather face itself doesn't do it as a mockery for himself is a character and I get the fact that he is a killer and does not discriminate however this is a game and people online use it as a tool as a mockery and trolling which comes off offensive in in-game chat when you're being told the N-word. This is a tool that players use to just be down right racist and offensive using Claudette face as a mockery. Same with jake because that is "yellow" face
Can we all just report this thread and troll here so it can be closed now? Trying to cause flame wars is a no no afterall.
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@Orion said:
@AlexAnarchy said:
@Orion said:
@AlexAnarchy said:
@Orion said:
@AlexAnarchy said:
@Orion said:
@AlexAnarchy said:
@Mister_xD said:
@Tydie said:
I'm so glad someone said something, I've been concerned about this for a while as well. As an African American myself I found it to be very insulting. This is especially true when you see almost every Cannibal wearing that specific cosmetic.. it kinda hurts deep down because you know they're doing it as a joke and its a running gag in the community.oooor its because thats the only mask they have unlocked yet, as its fairly easy to get due to the fact that almost every 2nd player plays as claudette.
but yeah. just look at it like everyone is racist and wants to insult you, without even knowing you. i bet that is a great way to look at life ^^It's just a simple case of who is truly the racist ones here, reality is, the only ones here who are racist are the ones pointing the finger about how it's racist and then calling people ignorant for not agreeing, point is, none of them would have even noticed if they themself were not racist enough to get the idea in there head then fire out at everyone about it.
Much like in real life, the only true racist ones are the ones calling everyone racist.
Which in turn is not ever gonna stop racism, it only makes people more angry to be called racist when they are not and makes the situation worse.Pretty sure at least some of the people being called racist are actually racist.
probably not hardly as many as those who are being pointed at. i'm not but i do get called one alot at my job cuz I said No.
You'd be surprised. Those who are racist will often point to the (relatively few) false instances of someone else being called a racist as "proof" that they themselves aren't racist. This rhetoric results in a false sense of how many accusations are actually false. Same thing with other types of discrimination; it's all about creating an echo chamber of anecdotes that support what you want.
Yep and because I told some white guy who's dressed up in thug life style with a gun in his backpocket of his pants that are down practically at his ankles that he could not just walk up into some lone girls room last night at work means I'm racist against black people...people just running around calling everyone racist cuz they say no sir I ca'nt give you a ride, NO sir, you ca'nt go up too some lone girls room and ######### them, OH NO! this video game has offended me in some way cuz megs shirt is yellow and not red like I want it to be and how dare you not agree with me you RACIST! is not helping to clear the world of racism, it only makes people angrier and more upset, only an idiot would go around trying to state this is okay to do.
True, but if you were, for example, to call the cops on a black person who clearly demonstrated they live in the same apartment complex as you because you "felt unsafe" and "weren't sure they lived there", while you never did anything of the sort to any of your other (white neighbors), you might just be a racist.
Yes, this would be likely, but it's not the case in this thread, the threads case has nothing to do with any form of real life situation that is causing any actual harm and those who are in here pointing the finger at everyone who does'nt agree are clearly not the ones overreacting in a racist way, I'm all for a serious real life situation but this is a video game and being based around something that you literally have to stretch too make it a racism issue, this does'nt compare as this is just some bored people with nothing better to do except go out looking for something to call racist and then call people who don't agree either racist or ignorant which is funny when they won't even respond decently too those disagreeing with them.
I'm not addressing the (obviously bait) thread, I'm addressing you. My point is, don't be fooled by the actual racists that false racism accusations are more common than real ones.
Yes, there will always be parasites trying to take advantage of anything and anyone they can (like the actual racists taking advantage of you and others like you who were falsely accused of racism, to try to legitimize their bigoted views), but you need to look at the bigger picture and realize that yes, overt racism is still a thing, and yes, it's still a big deal.
Black and brown people in predominantly white countries and white people in predominantly black and brown countries live with the very real possibility that one day, some racist mob is going to come over and kill them.
In my own country, one of the most tolerant in the world, a Colombian immigrant who'd been here since she was a child was severely beaten up by some racist [BAD WORD] who told her to "go back to [her] own country". During interviews, she reported that while the beating was new, the racist attitude was not, and that many people where she grew up would often spout racist epithets at her as "a joke" (see what I said before about actual racists trying to legitimize their racism?), while others were just straight-up bullying her for having brown skin. This is a real phenomenon that you shouldn't discount just because you were falsely accused and/or suspected.I don't discount it as an issue, I literally live in texas where it is a huge issue, but this thread is simply stupid, the reason behind it, is stupid, the character it's being shot towards is stupid , leatherface deciding he wants to wear claudettes face is not in any way shape or form a racist move by the character itself who likely does'nt even know what racism is, for crying out loud he eats the people he kills and then picks the face he likes most to wear, sure some ######### are gonna use it for racist reasons but the point of it being in the game is about as racist as RE5 having chris redfield shooting african zombies...in africa, Or leon shooting spaniard zombies ....In spain, or even RE6 where people be shooting japanese zombies, In Japan!
And these same folks bitching about it here would be here today bitching about it if the game excluded claudettes face if the devs chose not too include her.
In that case it would actually be something of an issue.
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@Dreamnomad said:
That Yoda image looks pretty racist to me. At the absolute minimum, it is in very poor taste.How dare Yoda be green! I want him blue and how dare you not agree with me!!!
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Trying to say it's okay for someone to go around calling people racist for not agreeing with them is the exact same thing as saying a religious person going around cursing everyone to burn in hell for not following the same religion is being a good christian.
Don't do it cuz it only proves your not anymore innocent, in fact it more proves that your the least innocent if nothing actually racist or harmful has been done to you.
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@Orion said:
@AlexAnarchy said:
@Orion said:
@AlexAnarchy said:
@Orion said:
@AlexAnarchy said:
@Mister_xD said:
@Tydie said:
I'm so glad someone said something, I've been concerned about this for a while as well. As an African American myself I found it to be very insulting. This is especially true when you see almost every Cannibal wearing that specific cosmetic.. it kinda hurts deep down because you know they're doing it as a joke and its a running gag in the community.oooor its because thats the only mask they have unlocked yet, as its fairly easy to get due to the fact that almost every 2nd player plays as claudette.
but yeah. just look at it like everyone is racist and wants to insult you, without even knowing you. i bet that is a great way to look at life ^^It's just a simple case of who is truly the racist ones here, reality is, the only ones here who are racist are the ones pointing the finger about how it's racist and then calling people ignorant for not agreeing, point is, none of them would have even noticed if they themself were not racist enough to get the idea in there head then fire out at everyone about it.
Much like in real life, the only true racist ones are the ones calling everyone racist.
Which in turn is not ever gonna stop racism, it only makes people more angry to be called racist when they are not and makes the situation worse.Pretty sure at least some of the people being called racist are actually racist.
probably not hardly as many as those who are being pointed at. i'm not but i do get called one alot at my job cuz I said No.
You'd be surprised. Those who are racist will often point to the (relatively few) false instances of someone else being called a racist as "proof" that they themselves aren't racist. This rhetoric results in a false sense of how many accusations are actually false. Same thing with other types of discrimination; it's all about creating an echo chamber of anecdotes that support what you want.
Yep and because I told some white guy who's dressed up in thug life style with a gun in his backpocket of his pants that are down practically at his ankles that he could not just walk up into some lone girls room last night at work means I'm racist against black people...people just running around calling everyone racist cuz they say no sir I ca'nt give you a ride, NO sir, you ca'nt go up too some lone girls room and ######### them, OH NO! this video game has offended me in some way cuz megs shirt is yellow and not red like I want it to be and how dare you not agree with me you RACIST! is not helping to clear the world of racism, it only makes people angrier and more upset, only an idiot would go around trying to state this is okay to do.
True, but if you were, for example, to call the cops on a black person who clearly demonstrated they live in the same apartment complex as you because you "felt unsafe" and "weren't sure they lived there", while you never did anything of the sort to any of your other (white neighbors), you might just be a racist.
Yes, this would be likely, but it's not the case in this thread, the threads case has nothing to do with any form of real life situation that is causing any actual harm and those who are in here pointing the finger at everyone who does'nt agree are clearly not the ones overreacting in a racist way, I'm all for a serious real life situation but this is a video game and being based around something that you literally have to stretch too make it a racism issue, this does'nt compare as this is just some bored people with nothing better to do except go out looking for something to call racist and then call people who don't agree either racist or ignorant which is funny when they won't even respond decently too those disagreeing with them.
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@Orion said:
@AlexAnarchy said:
@Orion said:
@AlexAnarchy said:
@Mister_xD said:
@Tydie said:
I'm so glad someone said something, I've been concerned about this for a while as well. As an African American myself I found it to be very insulting. This is especially true when you see almost every Cannibal wearing that specific cosmetic.. it kinda hurts deep down because you know they're doing it as a joke and its a running gag in the community.oooor its because thats the only mask they have unlocked yet, as its fairly easy to get due to the fact that almost every 2nd player plays as claudette.
but yeah. just look at it like everyone is racist and wants to insult you, without even knowing you. i bet that is a great way to look at life ^^It's just a simple case of who is truly the racist ones here, reality is, the only ones here who are racist are the ones pointing the finger about how it's racist and then calling people ignorant for not agreeing, point is, none of them would have even noticed if they themself were not racist enough to get the idea in there head then fire out at everyone about it.
Much like in real life, the only true racist ones are the ones calling everyone racist.
Which in turn is not ever gonna stop racism, it only makes people more angry to be called racist when they are not and makes the situation worse.Pretty sure at least some of the people being called racist are actually racist.
probably not hardly as many as those who are being pointed at. i'm not but i do get called one alot at my job cuz I said No.
You'd be surprised. Those who are racist will often point to the (relatively few) false instances of someone else being called a racist as "proof" that they themselves aren't racist. This rhetoric results in a false sense of how many accusations are actually false. Same thing with other types of discrimination; it's all about creating an echo chamber of anecdotes that support what you want.
Yep and because I told some white guy who's dressed up in thug life style with a gun in his backpocket of his pants that are down practically at his ankles that he could not just walk up into some lone girls room last night at work means I'm racist against black people...people just running around calling everyone racist cuz they say no sir I ca'nt give you a ride, NO sir, you ca'nt go up too some lone girls room and ######### them, OH NO! this video game has offended me in some way cuz megs shirt is yellow and not red like I want it to be and how dare you not agree with me you RACIST! is not helping to clear the world of racism, it only makes people angrier and more upset, only one hell of a silly person would go around trying to state this is okay to do.