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@Dwight_Fairfield said:
@deadwolfwalking said:
with one exception.... swf is actually broken af and can't be countered.... camping/tunneling doesn't break anything and can be countered....No, its not broken. It can be countered - git gud.
Sorry couldn't resist. Its the typical response to camping complaints.
Found the entiteled survivor main with no real argument.
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another camping/tunneling whine thread that does'nt matter in any form since they all know that both are legit gameplays.
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When you'd rather make a million excuses as too why stealth is dead in the game instead of just gitting gud with it.
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It is perfectly fine too press the R key.
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heavy drinking and smoking man~
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Hag changes are not even out yet and crybabies are already out begging for nerfs.
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Best way to nerf Noed, remove it by destroying totems, Damn survivors are getting lazy.
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What's funny is toxic or salty survivors will take any chance they can to try and fool you into thinking camping is bannable, however it simply is not bannable. It's actually bannable for them to falsely report people for camping constantly.
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@Skorpanio said:
@chadnati0n said:
The dying process slows tremendous while the killer is in the vacinity o the hook.
Play some Roblox - Escape the Facility.
Really related to dbd, and yes the hooked state stops when the killer is nearby the hooked survivor!
Wierd that I've began playing this instead of the actual game lol.
I suppose even Roblox can be better sometimes...
devs already tried that in a ptb before..it was abused heavily by survivors so it got canned.
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@Amanda55 said:
@AlexAnarchy said:
@chadnati0n said:
so I’ve noticed a lot of face camping lately while playing the cannibal especially it totally holds the game hostage to camp especially with a chainsaw that has about five swings borrowed time can’t even save them. What if??... and this is a big what if.?? The dying process slows tremendous while the killer is in the vacinity o the hook I’m talking enough time to finish all gens of the killer stays. I only ask this because there’s legit NO way to save this person and still goes the killer time to find another victim before gens are completed. I know killer mains are going to argue well the survivor shouldn’t go down if he doesn’t wanna be camped but it’s inevitable a killer is goin to eventually down some doesn’t matter how good they are. Just some food for thought.Omg...are survivors really getting this level of entitled to win now too such a degree they are even trying to turn camping into holding the game hostage now? How much more lower can they go?
Survivors Always complain when they don't get their way lol.
Oh that does'nt surprise me, it just surprises me on how they will always find some way to try and stretch anything into an exploit or bannable offense, Like the recent pressing the R key exploit they are trying to claim just because they suck at timing blinds.
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@chadnati0n said:
so I’ve noticed a lot of face camping lately while playing the cannibal especially it totally holds the game hostage to camp especially with a chainsaw that has about five swings borrowed time can’t even save them. What if??... and this is a big what if.?? The dying process slows tremendous while the killer is in the vacinity o the hook I’m talking enough time to finish all gens of the killer stays. I only ask this because there’s legit NO way to save this person and still goes the killer time to find another victim before gens are completed. I know killer mains are going to argue well the survivor shouldn’t go down if he doesn’t wanna be camped but it’s inevitable a killer is goin to eventually down some doesn’t matter how good they are. Just some food for thought.Omg...are survivors really getting this level of entitled to win now too such a degree they are even trying to turn camping into holding the game hostage now? How much more lower can they go?
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@lonewolf_19xx said:
@AlexAnarchy said:
@lonewolf_19xx said:
@AlexAnarchy said:
@lonewolf_19xx said:
@Alexanarchy saidWhat part of the Devs swore off ever punishing camping do you not understand exactly?
What part did you not read exactly? I said they NEED to do something about both campers and toxic survivors. Not that they Will.
They don't need to do something about camping though as it's been designed into the game since day 1 as the strategy known as baiting a survivor. Need proof I can post dev diary 3 for you and they can tell you about it themselves~
They do need to do something about it if they are trying to balance and make the game enjoyable for both sides. And The devs made the bbq & chili perk to encourage killers to leave the hook. They have said it themselves on their stream. The only time camping is acceptable is if they are hook rushing and forcing you to stay there, or being toxic as hell.
actually they made it clear that BBQ is to give killers the choice to camp or not...they themselves even stated they will only make incentives for killers to choose to camp or not but it shall always be the killers choice to camp or not, as it is a designed startegy from even before day 1 as shown here in this video..educate yourself before you make yourself look silly.. Don't even try claiming any form of BS that the devs themselves stated any specific rules about camping being toxic or whatever as they do it themselves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS3DvvOQI04
It's called Baiting which is the killer using a survivor to lure in another survivor so take your made up rules of when camping is fine or whatever and throw em out the window cuz the devs make the rules, not you.The stream they did after this latest update was released on every platform except ps4, camping was brought up and they did say it was the killers choice, but they also said they created the bbq perk to encourage killers to leave the hook. That was their exact words. So you can stop trying to make me out a liar because you are failing. You must be a camper and thats why you are for it so much.
Too encourage the killer to leave the Hook Does not mean they HAVE TOO Now does it? ..... also I play clown when killer and use bbq to go after other survivors once one is hooked, so no I don't camp but I think its dumb for people to think they can still apply ther own rules and meanings behind what's fine and not to do with a legit strat that the devs themselves even do still today.
I'm also pretty ashamed when people jump to the meme conclusion I must be this and that cuz I disagree with them when I just actually know two shits about what I am talking about : P -
@lonewolf_19xx said:
@AlexAnarchy said:
@lonewolf_19xx said:
@Alexanarchy saidWhat part of the Devs swore off ever punishing camping do you not understand exactly?
What part did you not read exactly? I said they NEED to do something about both campers and toxic survivors. Not that they Will.
They don't need to do something about camping though as it's been designed into the game since day 1 as the strategy known as baiting a survivor. Need proof I can post dev diary 3 for you and they can tell you about it themselves~
They do need to do something about it if they are trying to balance and make the game enjoyable for both sides. And The devs made the bbq & chili perk to encourage killers to leave the hook. They have said it themselves on their stream. The only time camping is acceptable is if they are hook rushing and forcing you to stay there, or being toxic as hell.
actually they made it clear that BBQ is to give killers the choice to camp or not...they themselves even stated they will only make incentives for killers to choose to camp or not but it shall always be the killers choice to camp or not, as it is a designed startegy from even before day 1 as shown here in this video..educate yourself before you make yourself look silly.. Don't even try claiming any form of BS that the devs themselves stated any specific rules about camping being toxic or whatever as they do it themselves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS3DvvOQI04
It's called Baiting which is the killer using a survivor to lure in another survivor so take your made up rules of when camping is fine or whatever and throw em out the window cuz the devs make the rules, not you. -
@Grey87 said:
If the guy on hook can hear your terror radius the whole time he is on then yes you are camping.
Unless all the gens that are left are close to the hook as well.
Anyone saying otherwise is biased killer main.
Standing next to the hook is hard camp while "patrol" is not as hard but also is.Oooh, good job of being so unbiased yourself by saying ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME IS A FILTHY KILLER MAIN CUZ MY IDEAS ARE THE TRUTH AND I"M THE DEVELOPER OF THE GAME SO I MAKE THE RULES kind of attitude.
Trust us all on this OP, this kind of player who posts like this will even call you a camper if your still on the map after hooking someone.
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@Spectre_UK said:
A lot has been said recently about DS and I agree I hate the perk it should be changed or removed but what about NOED the Killer's own version of DS it lets a lot of unskilled Killers do way better than they should and if they won't remove NOED how about a Nerf at the moment it is basically 3 perks in 1.1 shot down, 8% reduced cooldown on successful and missed attacks and a 4% speed increase.
How about don't make it a totem perk and give the Killer a 3/4/5% speed increase for the 3 tiers of the perk for 2mins or time can be adjusted after the last Generator is popped the same as Hope for Survivors then it isn't OP and allowing all these unskilled Killers to be carried by a single perk just the same as Survivors who run DS.
When your literally so bad at beating a perk by not just simply cleansing totems...
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@lonewolf_19xx said:
@Alexanarchy saidWhat part of the Devs swore off ever punishing camping do you not understand exactly?
What part did you not read exactly? I said they NEED to do something about both campers and toxic survivors. Not that they Will.
They don't need to do something about camping though as it's been designed into the game since day 1 as the strategy known as baiting a survivor. Need proof I can post dev diary 3 for you and they can tell you about it themselves~
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@lonewolf_19xx said:
@SadonicShadow said:
Anti camping mechanics have been tried and they failed miserably. A big part of this game is killer agency. A killer has the right to play however he wishes so long as he is not breaking the rules. The devs have been very clear on this. Camping is a valid strat and its valid because survivors make it valid by being overly altruist and hanging around the hook instead of being smart and doing gens. Camping is a part of the game and its not going away.Yet the emblem system put in place for a survivor is for them to be altruist. So it forces them. I play both killer and survivor and they need to do something about camping, and they need to do something about toxic ass survivors also. Both are getting ridiculous.
What part of the Devs swore off ever punishing camping do you not understand exactly?
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@Jack11803 said:
A killer threatened to ######### and snap my mothers neck. No biggieSounds much more like a survivor quote actually..
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@Rune said:
can you add an additional button in order to activate sprint burst, rather than just having it activate outright when sprinting? especially with the new upcoming sprint burst nerf. i get that dead hard basically does this, but it's only a last ditch effort related perk, and requires you to already be injured.there is one, it's called the shift key
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@Pandakecks said:
@EpicFailTryHard said:
Pandakecks said:You all are not seems to be really smart, or grown up enough to have a real talk. And how you all think im a just survivior main, like i said im playing both. I dont even enjoy Killer anymore since the last updates, with that one it will not anymore a challenge at all. Sry that it seems that all of you need that to actually win a game xD Sad story.
what happened in the last update to change the killers for the worse?You do not need any skill anymore. Cause you getting all for free. Nerfing all things on the survivor side more and more, making it easier for bad killers to think they are good at the game.
These nerfs are literally going to barely even affect survivors at all and your like OMG Games bad must die!
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@Ellogan66 said:
Killer sees a large red circle around a hooked survivor and if they are in it for more than 5 seconds when a survivor is un-hooked then they lose 1000 - 2000 bloodpoints or they get stunned (or just something else negative to the killer’s gameplay)another stupid as hell salty idea from an angry over legit tactics survivor main, git gud..
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Goodbye then crybaby survivor, lol
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Here we go, survivor mains complaining about an easy counter perk and insisting no perk should be used so much while almost all of them use SB, and SC
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@only1biggs said:
Bloodlust rewards bad killers with a speed boost. It needs to go. I say this as a "killer main". It's awful.I would like to suggest that it be changed to only affect Myers in Tier 1 of Evil Within and the Hag and to ONLY be
Bloodlust Tier 1.looks at ways this OP post about Bloodlust throughout thread Yep...definately a killer main...and not some salty survivor main who wants to win every chase by abusing infinites and bad map design.
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Most actually skilled players can stealth and do it well against doc and freddy and wraith and enjoy playing stealth, those who suck at it just spend more time making up excuses that it does'nt exist or is impossible cuz they are'nt really skilled survivor players.
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@No_Cluie_Louis said:
@FrenziedRoach said:
So anotherwords, make Borrowed Time useless and get free unhooks (which is free points as the killer is unable to respond with the speed nerf)That's exactly what your idea proposes the speed nerf would make it hard to defend the hook.
I'm sorry, but your idea is not thought through or fair.
I get your point, it would make borrowed time pointless and i didnt think about that. I know your saying it to insult me but honestly i wanted constructive criticism > @Orion said:
Your suggestion would create an imbalance in the game. In a perfectly balanced game, if the Killer is standing in an area, Survivors are supposed to clear out if they can, no matter what. You want to make it so if the Killer is standing in an area, Survivors can approach and ignore the Killer altogether. I don't care what rationalization you have, this is an imbalance of power.
There should never be a situation where Survivors can ignore the presence of the Killer, or an area where the Killer is punished for going/staying (i.e.: a safe area for Survivors).
You say that but there are pallets are there not? And i agree there shouldn't be situations where survivors wouldn't be scared to be in the killers presence, but at the same time, killers should never feel obliged to camp without justification therefor the situation wouldn't arise. If killers don't want to camp, then the mechanic wont affect them and survivors will continue to fear them. Killers are slower when they vault windows and there for they are less feared when going through one. This means there isn't much point in doing it unless in certain situations. Camping should be the same. People shouldn't want to camp unless it's justified, so a situation never comes around where the survivors aren't scared.
There are certain parts of the game where either the survivor or killer have the advantage and therefor choose how the game plays out for that particular part. It's usually the killer in control. For generators, it's the killer as they can stop the survivor form working on them (this doesn't mean they control whether the gens are completed or not but it means they can stop survivors working on them and there for choose which ones are completed). The killer controls who he chases, as well as the exit gates and the survivors hooked. The survivors control where their chases go and what generators they work on, as well as when they leave the trial. I think the survivors should be able to choose when their team is unhooked at the cost of the killer being stronger because of it.
Says Killers need justification to camp when devs literally camp / bait survivors themselves...
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@No_Cluie_Louis said:
@AlexAnarchy said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS3DvvOQI04For the people here who are stating camping is not legit, should be punished, or was
unintended.you;ve already sent that once, still don't understand why that means camping is legit, also i get they say you can pounce when they're going for a save, but that doesn't mean camp and you have to remember the game is not what it used to be.
Maybe cuz the devs say so as well and still say so today? Hell dude, the devs camp.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS3DvvOQI04
For the people here who are stating camping is not legit, should be punished, or was
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@chickenman12365 said:
I can loop fine, i just never get the option to loop because the second he sees me, he hits me with a potion then i'm already hit.Oh , you mean he used exactly what he is supposed to be able to do? got it...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS3DvvOQI04
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At this point, I think the devs should post up a big capitolized post that says CAMPING IS NOT GOING TO BE PUNISHED!!!!
And then start banning people who post ######### camp punishment threads.
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@ApacheLand said:
The new effect is when you unhook a survivor using were gonna live forever the survivor you unhooked gets a short sprint burst or dead hard so they can get away from the killer in that moment when the killers tryin to decide whether to tunnel or not. It would discourage tunneling..... Maybe?..BT BT BT
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@Outsidedarkness said:
keap putting rude comments ill keep reportinglol, basically the op is saying AGREE WITH ME OR I REPORT YOU!!!!!
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stupidest idea for a perk nerf yet.
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######### hell with the people who keep posting for camping to be fixed or nerfed...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS3DvvOQI04
And they always post the exact same stupid idea as the last one which the devs tried and was abused during ptb so devs decided that camping will never be punished. -
@mydady787 said:
why all killer forget that one of the survivors objectives is not to get hookedHowever, survivors tend to purposefully forget that they are not entitled to win every game either.
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Nope, but we did get this!
Fixed an incorrect value in the Clown's power description (coughing duration should be 2 seconds instead of 1.5 seconds) -
Seeing as there is already a hinted at nerf to pallet looping coming in septembers update...I myself think it's gonna be a pallet blocker the same as the window blocks pretty much.
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@Master said:
@AlexAnarchy said:
@Dwight_Fairfield said:
Both suck, IMO. The only time I think camping is ok is if the exit gates are powered and someone is on the hook.Just gonna post this for you and master and any other folks who wanna say camping is not okay nor intended or should be removed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS3DvvOQI04Camping is just a non-fun strategy for the other side, sure its totally legit but I dont think that we want to support this kind of behaviour, do we?
We don't want to support using legit strategies put in the game from day 1? Boy if that is'nt the story of DBD in a nutshell.
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@Why_Are_You_Salty said:
I've seen a lot of people on here complain about camping and I agree it's not fun especially on console a lot of people get camped on console I'm a PS4 player myself, but how about a perk that counters camping if the killer is within a 8/15/20 meter range of the hook all survivors gain 90/95/100% speed boost to repair so this punishes the killer and they can get at most 1 kill by camping because all gens will be done. I don't camp the only time I would camp is if I have no kills and there are like 2 gens left or someone's being toxic.Borrowed time and kindred ...your welcome.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS3DvvOQI04
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@Grandma said:
cos there's a ratio of 4 - to - 1 for survivors and salty. roughly the same percent of killers are as salty as the same amount of survivors, you just see more survivors in every game so it's more obvious.Do people not realize how absolutely stupid they sound when they try to say a community of 4 to 1 somehow comes off as even in any aspect of anything??
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@Dwight_Fairfield said:
Both suck, IMO. The only time I think camping is ok is if the exit gates are powered and someone is on the hook.Just gonna post this for you and master and any other folks who wanna say camping is not okay nor intended or should be removed.
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@Jack11803 said:
@FrenziedRoach said:
@Jack11803 said:
If they have knock out on rotten fields, and is billy, you shouldn’t forfeit your life just because “well normally that doesn’t happen; what about when it isn’t OP?” It should NEVER be that strong.
Then talk about the map, not the perk. Which is something both survivors and killers should be able to agree on.
You’re right, that map is #########. But I still think maybe; perhaps; make billy slower. Would prevent BBQ cheese, while actually making his speed add ons relevant.
Make billy slower....nice subtle begging for billy nerf there.
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@Jack11803 said:
@FrenziedRoach said:
BBQ and Chili encourages killers to leave the hook and encourages non-tunneling behavior by rotating hooking survivors.Why on earth would you want to nerf something that creates what many survivors "claim" they want us to do?
This is one of the best perks to encourage desired behavior in the killer community, don't you dare touch it!
Especially since it's so easily counterable, it's pathetic.
It's not the perk's fault you lack the game awareness to position yourself in such a way to not be a target. In the words of Mr Cote ... "Get Good"
Like I said before, the perks perfectly fine except on hillbilly it’s too strong, whether they do something to bbq or billy I don’t know, but that combo should not be as ridiculous as it is now. Also, BBQ didn’t stop camping, killers always say hide behind a gen so no aura is seen, but then claim if no aura is seen they must be hook diving.
takes 1-2 seconds to look fully around after hooking...takes 2.3 seconds to rev chainsaw without addons...already 4 seconds is up.
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Another BBQ nerf thread...sigh...survivors really like being camped only, don't they?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS3DvvOQI04
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@Master said:
I know, but apparently @saams420 has not understood that part if he got caught in 2 seconds after lithe has activated
I'm quoting it's stupid that folks must think holding shift is gonna make you drop a pallet from the middle somehow...The devs showed us all how the new pallet changes worked.
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@Reshaos said:
I agree, something really does need to be done about camping. Killer finally caught you and wants you dead despite being your first hook? Ok, then that game should be a guaranteed loss for the killer. If the killer wants to ruin your experience then it should come at a major cost. Nobody likes dying on first hook because the killer is too incompetent to walk further than 10 meters from the hook.And no, doing generators is not an acceptable means to punish the killer, unless you're in an SWF. Do you killer mains really want more SWF's? Because a group of solo queue survivors aren't going to be able to communicate effectively enough to rush generators to punish the camping. Everyone will slowly get off their generator after noticing nobody rescuing the guy on the hook thinking that everyone is staying on generators. That's time wasted and everyone will end up wasting that time, so by the time the guy dies on the hook there will be one maybe two generators left which is enough time for the killer to catch another survivor to camp. That's not really punishing the killer for using a tactic that literally no survivor deems as fair. Not to mention that nobody is able to make saves, nor interact with the killer for chase points if they are forced to only repair generators, so that means everyone at best safety pips. All because of the camping tactic.
Oh, I forgot. We cannot talk about how survivors feel, only killers and how it makes them feel.
This forum is as bad as reddit with killer bias. Don't you dare ruin the killers experience, but survivor? Let them spawn on the hook, remove all windows and pallets, straight line jukes only, etc. Anything and everything that allows every killer to 4k every game. Killers are meant to kill, survivors are meant to...die?
So what's the solution killer mains? SWF so we can all voice communicate to push those killers back to rank 20 like you think will happen? Faster generators so even solo queue players can punish campers, I am sure you will all love that lol.
Bring on the "survivor whining", "survivors already overpowered", "oh so survivors want free unhooks?" regurgitated comments. When in reality this is really camping killers just wanting a free kill. I'm cool with you having the free kill so long as it costs the game. Go for it buddy.
Everyone in this game deserves to have a good experience, survivor and killer, not just killer. And yes, I have been looped around all map as killer, finally catching that survivor, then camping him when all generators are done. However, I did that very well knowing I was completely throwing the game. And I was ok with that because that makes complete sense to me. I spent my entire time focused on one survivor, that should not be a pip.
I Think you must be by far one of the Most BS posting survivor mains out there....
It's almost Stupid at this point....how many more times must people post dev diary 3 to you?
Gonna do it again since your so determined to continue making a fool out of yourself.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS3DvvOQI04