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@Galklife said:
@AlexAnarchy if you have over 1700h and still think stealth is only way or its way to go as surv youre just lost case ... i have over 1880h and as surv i dont stealth (i dropped that playstyle like 900h ago) and as killer i main pig and wraith (enduring, bbq, whispers and sloppy on wraith and BS on pig)
do you know why now i hate stealth? because if stealth player will go save and killer will go back, killer will most likely tunnel, not because he wants to tunnel (i know nowadays killers likes to tunnel but not every killer wants to do that) but he wont see surv that savior he only sees saved surv, so he have to choose, looking for black claudette on black map or go for surv he sees.... choice is obvious (sad but i cant talk sh.. about killers tunneling in that kind of situations)
I never said stealth was the only way too play, I just said looping is not the only way to win, You can stop putting words in my mouth too create false arguments now~ : P
This thread is literally full of two people putting false statements in my mouth instead of making real arguments.
You really think cuz I advocate for other playstyles than just looping that I don't use pallets during a chase? Ofc, I do~ I Loop when I have too as well, but alot of the time I don't cuz I don't get found at all.
so you can quit trying to get me in some corner by putting words in my mouth to suit your arguments and quit with the insults too.
My main two killers are clown and Myers, both with DH cuz for some reason survivors never expect DH on clown mainly..*shrugs*
Quentin and jake for survivor.
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/428919#Comment_428919
well then. i'll answer you a very simple question. just tell me. WHAT DO THE KILLER HAS TO DO IN THE GAME? the answer is very simple. i'll give it to you. preventing survivors from escaping.
every killer perk is based on buying and saving time.almost everything in this game is focused around time. for example. make your choice. let me tell you what the perk does. cause you sound like haven't played the game that much. after someone is unhooked. if the killer was more than 32 meters far away. the unhooker will get the exposed status effect. this perk helps the killer save time by 1 shot-ing the unhooker. or hex:ruin. basically slows down the generators which buys time for the killer. also with survivor perks. for example. botany knowledge. it increases the healing speed by 33%. so it basically saves time. same with any exhaustion perk. they're used to buy some time during loops. do you understand? perks like bamboozle or enduring is meant to save time during chases. so the killer won't spend half of the game focused on chasing. try playing the game a bit more. get some experience. and stop talking BS.
I use MYC on clown and Myers buddy, I also have over 1700 hours on dbd.
I have experience plenty enough on both sides and have near all perks unlocked on both sides, so don't try and educate me on perks and how they work cuz I already know, if your attempting to just start a fight then i'd suggest not even going that way and don't stalk me over multiple threads, cuz all that's gonna get is reporting.
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@Tru3Lemon said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/428996#Comment_428996
I think they are fixing but the most hype that all survivor want its the dedicated servers that soon will come now no more lagswitch no more laggy killers that lag in the middle of the game etc
Don't forget hits for badly timed pallet drops...this will still happen tho.
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@Galklife said:
@AlexAnarchy there is no counterplay to doc with restraint when he sees doc looking at you, ofc you can move a bit but he still knows area where you are, i know how to be stealthy AF but thats boring... chases are fun (but you dont know that because you dont know how to use windows i guess) but i just used your argument "if you dont like what i like that mean you dont know how to play it to make if fun" thats 4Head argument
@Peasant well pressing m1 isnt too intense and interesting after 1000h as surv(i have more h but im talking about surv playtime only) its waaaay to boring to just press m1 ;) i would rather take fun chase and die than genrush and escape without chase
Great, you resorted to putting words in my mouth as well now by saying I am using some form of argument or whatever, so common of people with no real arguments on the dbd community. Quite sad, really I expected better but whatever makes you and Kate sleep well at night at this point.
I'm letting this thread go as it's filled with simply making the same survivor main Memeposting about how only looping is the way to win anymore cuz someone dared too mention any other way than playing.
Ya'll can just go right ahead and keep that mentality though, we'll see you when the devs continue nerfing looping slowly bit by bit with each continuous patch~
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@Galklife said:
@AlexAnarchy just play stealthy vs doc or Legion best idea i heard
and whats the problem with 2 play styles as surv? stealth and runners? and killers are same some killers counters stealth (doc, legion), some killers counters looping (clown, pig, nurse) xd thats not for you to decide if someone has to play like you like
Doc, easy way to stealth doc, - Get madness 1 while he is chasing someone else, Done, you can now stealth doc if your not a silly boi who stays in his TR all round afterwords.
Legion, why the heck are you together close enough to be in his aura reads after hitting someone with DW?
Lockers also work against Doc.
Excuses too claim you cannot stealth these killers but you go right ahead, I can detail a counter for each killer and addon.
Sorry that you blame the game over your simple lack of skill but survivors always get threatened when someone can actually educate them on playing stealth since it negates the argument of "Looping is the only way to win"
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@kate_best_girl said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/428990#Comment_428990
Stealth has never worked on me or many many many other killers because there is so much against stealth you have scratch marks, blood, breathing, grass rustling, footsteps you cannot end chases with stealth in this game unless the killer is brain dead or rank 20...I have a hard time believing you're anywhere past rank 14 with how full of yourself you are and how you actually think stealth works against smart killers lol you've ignored several points ive made and just jump onto "YoUrE MaKinG ExCuSeS." You dont wanna acknowledge my points because it would prove I know what im talking about and if you can't win at discussion without acknowledging valid points your opponents made then dont start them.
I already said it's pointless to reply to you anymore cuz your brick walled on your beliefs yet here you are again just simply posting false points (( which I did post a reply too about those false points in which you now claim I ignored.) and excuses again like scratchmarks, blood,breathing, grass rustling and footsteps and saying that you are not able to stealthplay well..Maybe that is simply cuz your not good at it, but with time and practice and well simply working up the skill by playing and figuring out the ins and outs of the killers and ther perks, you can be as good as I am someday.
This is my last reply to you so I'm simply gonna say, make all the excuses you want, but it's only you that prevents you from getting better.
You can say you know what your talking about all you want, but your the only one here posting why you cannot do well at this, and every single one of them have counters, you just seem to not be good at taking advantage of the counters, and that is your fault, Not mine.
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@Tru3Lemon said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/428986#Comment_428986
Well with this bad matchmaking ppl that dont know hot to deal with her they are potatos will get ez kills but ppl that know how to play against her will get some time to loop the killer since her range its kinda big
Agreed, fix that dang matchmaking, it's cancer.
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@kate_best_girl said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/428970#Comment_428970
You really do just read whatever you wanna see huh?
All I see is me stating stealth is still viable and you posting 'nuh uh! Not unless the killer is rank 20! "
Which i'm sorry but I passed rank 15 so I can't play against rank 20 killers nor would I want too and I have almost all killer perks expect plague unlocked ( So obviously I played killer and I even mentioned stealth works when you know how a killer can see , "which means I have played killer obviously".)
There simply is no point in replying too you at this point cuz your stuck on me somehow going against rank 20 killers only, which as said before is now pretty much impossible for me to do as a normally solo player but yet I survive still, imagine that....Maybe cuz I put my time into learning something else.
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@Tru3Lemon said:
She wont get buff since shes very good and balance killer of you dont get enough kills its that you dont know how to play her ive seen alot of plahues and they ez get 4k
Is that because of how EZ it is for killers to get 4ks nowadays or is it simply because most survivors play like potatoes?
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@Andreyu44 said:
Ehm..she doesnt need buffs tbh.
I used to think she was weak ,but then I relized her addons make her OP so no buffs, thanks
A killer who has to rely on ther addons to be strong is a weak killer..
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i depipped even tho i got chased the entire game.... what am i supposed to do ? cant do gens like that .. altruism isnt a thing either..
Could it be....that your not meant too just be chased the entire round and should maybe...try and lose the killer?
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Quentin is Bae.
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@kate_best_girl said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/428967#Comment_428967
I never put words into your mouth lmao im not making excuses im stating facts no good killer loses someone easily stealth play works in mid to low ranks but in high ranks you don't have any stealth play at all because killers arent stupid enough to fall for survivor stealth tricks
Then why am I still surviving most of my games around ranks 5-1 with just urban evasion for stealth? Could it be I am just one of the actual few skilled survivors out there with stealth cuz I got gud instead of making a list of excuses too not do it and don't rely on putting words in someones mouth too create failed arguments?
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@kate_best_girl said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/428961#Comment_428961
Your entire argument is based on the killer being rank 20 like do you not play killer?
Do not put words in my mouth while you don't even listen too anything I post.
I never once have said a killer needed to be rank 20 for this work and I cannot play with rank 20 killers once past rank 15 so this is simply a bad argument you are trying to put in my mouth.
It's pretty clear at this point your either a very bad troll or your just memeposting whatever bad argument you can create.
Brick wall.
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@kate_best_girl said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/428961#Comment_428961
Every killer isnt rank 20 like have you never played killer? Its so easy to keep track with people.
At this point, your just making and listing out excuses, there is no helping you obviously.
I can't help a brick wall.
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@kate_best_girl said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/428955#Comment_428955
Iron will is a jake teachable...
Also do you not read or just ignore what you don't like? I literally stated I dont like looping its not fun for me I wanna be scared not pumped up.
Oh trust me, we all want to be scared again, but the only thing left of dbd too be scared of, is the devs decisions...
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@kate_best_girl said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/428952#Comment_428952
Stealth play is dependent on
Are you running an entire build for it?
Are your cosmetics dark enough?
Are you gonna get a map with LOS breakers?
Are you gonna get a killer who will be easy to break LOS with?
Stealthplay is dependant on
You do not need an entire build for it if your simply skilled enough to know how a killer sees.
Any survivor can pick ther darker clothing and be good at stealth, if your wearing bright clothes and trying too stealth, that'd be simply stupid.
Every map has walls, just because you ca'nt use them too fool a killer when you have some distance is your own fault.
Every killer sees things the exact same way, even aura perks and addons have stealth counters even without perks.
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@kate_best_girl said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/428931#Comment_428931
I mean
A. Jake is too annoying to play despite being a daddy
B. Tbh like I stated unless you run an entire build stealth really wont get you anywhere especially individual perks by themselves
first A- What about what this person said, stated you had too play Jake?
second B - That's purely false but looping only players will always make an excuse to say stealth is dead.
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@kate_best_girl said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/428915#Comment_428915
You know not every killer is rank 20? Stealth flat out is dead unless you run an entire build dedicated to it but even then a decent killer can still make a very likely assumption of where youll be
All i literally use for my personal stealth build, is urban evasion, everything else is for getting out of chases if found, yep, it's so dead... and this is'nt a person memeposting that stealthplay is dead cuz all they want to do is loop and actual skilled players threaten that belief that "Looping is the only way to win"
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@MeatN2Vedge said:
It can't be impossible to program the game to recognize when people click "leave game" so how about 1 or 2 warnings, then a 30 day ban?
It is'nt impossible too do, even games from way back like warcraft have auto bans set in place for abuse of the d/c button, dbd is just a mess.
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@Tru3Lemon said:
Its funny that ppl wants something and when they dont get it they words are "the game its dying" its funny and the same thing stupid cuz ppl alredy said this when friday 13th the game ppl said dbd will die soon look at it now dbd its more popular than friday 13th its 1 rework the most important its bugs like loading freeze or 3vs1 and the proboem with the dcs
Considering friday the 13th got shutdown cuz of a lawsuit situation that's been going for years now does not make it a good comparison unless dbd was closed down for a similar reason, however the steam charts do show DBD is selling less and keeping less players logging back in again and again...That is an issue for a game if folks are buying less and not relogging back in more.
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Here's a better question...why the hell are survivors staying in the match for 2 of 3 minutes when blood warden only blocks for 1? , I swear these false arguments survivors are posting in mass about NOED and BLOOD WARDEN are amazing on how stretched they have to get for one..
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@kate_best_girl said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/425583#Comment_425583
Okay but a medium to decent killer will just find you again its so easy when you have scratch marks and blood trails
And survivors have perks to make these things not as much of an issue and these things can be mindgamed too make a killer lose you, but it's okay...we know any excuse will do.
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@Victory said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/428287#Comment_428287
Go play survivor for once
Most of us do, and most of us are aware your not supposed to be 100% safe at your precious pallets.
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@GrootDude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/428074#Comment_428074
Read the original post before commenting.
I did, it's just another entitled survivor main who isn't dropping pallets fast enough to avoid the hit that normally registers first before the drop because the killer swung first, You even try too say survivors should be invincible during the pallet drop so you know you are not timing it correctly and just want too make pallets 100% safe which is not the devs intentions at all, they clearly made everything to be a risk, so don't post me like I did'nt read the post cuz it's clear you are biased on just wanting a guaranteed saftey at every pallet.
It's Entitlement at it's finest and yet your having an issue but many survivors can drop them without getting hit, including myself...hmmm...could it be they simply are better at ther timing?
And just so you know, this is gonna happen still even with dedicated servers, so either change your timing on pallet drops, or keep whining.
But hey, you go right ahead and try to explain why you should now have survivors be invincible during the drop and pallets be 100% safe at drops cuz...
I'll hear you out.
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@[Deleted User] said:
killers have a lot of perks. powers. and add-ons to deal with loops. but they're still complaining. i play killer a lot (rank 6-2) and i have no problems with it. i always mindgame the infinities. and most of the times i get a free hit. even tho bamboozle can literally kill the infinity. and as a survivor (rank 1-3). i'm a pretty good looper not gonna lie. some killers i face run bamboozle. enduring + spirit fury combo. and i usually discuss with them about the loops and how much time it takes and they have no problems at all because they're creating a big dead zones for late game. but for some reason. a lot of people are complaining about it. guess i'll have to wait under the hook for the killer to hook me. no need to try " surviving " here. also everyone who says looping is an exploit probably played the game only once in 2016 and left it
Oh yes...Killers should have too take multiple perks and certain addons every single game to counter survivors...that makes sense for an asymmetrical game now does'nt it?
Can folks please not post like dbd is the only online game you folks play?
It's even less subtle than trolls.
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@Judgement said:
Technically looping USED TO be considered an exploit, but it isn’t anymore. The devs themselves said it was when the game first released, but then later said it isn’t anymore, probably because of many other changes to the game since then.
People who say it’s an exploit are still living in 2016.
The devs have never said it was an exploit, nor have they ever said it was intended, They have consistantly stated it as an Unintended feature however, and that was even recently again for a Q&A.
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I’ve seen plenty of killers complain and nag on how survivors loop? Do you want us to do nothing?
Why do people keep posting this like they would expect too see it any other online game?
Survivors have so many diff options of play, Juking, Looping, LOS, Stealth ((not dead, stop making excuses to say such))
The problem is survivors want to fight the killer instead of hide, so they only want to loop and make any excuse they can too claim nothing else works, it's entirely false but the devs are slowly nerfing looping more and more each patch so eventually, we have seen it become less and less useful overtime.
Survivors simply need to stop refusing to adapt to new playstyles.
Survivors just memepost this excuse of standing idle or run in a straight line cuz there is no real argument they can make so they just play dumb on purpose.
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@Trikset said:
Its all about how you treat your Survivors. Play fair and everyone has fun:
Your example shows a killer saying they feel bad for playing killer...is this what you find to be fair? the killer who feels bad for killing you?
And what is fair? Cuz last I checked, killers get ######### on all the time for camping, tunneling, mori, using perks survivors don't like, or even killing the survivors...which all of these..are not against the rules and therefore Fair play.
And I don't remember seeing somewhere where the killer is supposed to treat survivors nicely...They are supposed to kill the survivors, your example if anything is simply a bad killer..
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@GrootDude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/428794#Comment_428794
I hope they widen it with the endgame changes.
Nope...why would they fix something they would ban someone for abusing? You folks can quit trying to act like killers block the basement on a common basis now....so come up with a real argument sometime instead of trying too claim a bannable offense will just happen commonly...when the reality is...what are you doing in the basement at endgame anyway? One survivor maybe but too even pretend your all 4 down there?...Unbelievable..
And plus, the reason for it being bannable is cuz survivors would not die normally...with endgame, they will die at some point so once again the real question is..what are you doing in the basement after endgame starts?
In reality I am already ready to see videos of KYF groups being used to show killers abusing this...totally not set up or anything : P
Pathetic how far some folks will go too claim they should nerf basements or NOED cuz we have 3 minutes too leave now , nothing else actually changing, we just have a 3 minute time limit.. and somehow the killer getting a faster movement speed through NOED like it always has is suddenly gonna make it impossible to open one of two gates (( 3 years of the game being out prove this wrong ))...it's just honestly pathetic..
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@NuclearBurrito said:
@AlexAnarchy in the event of the gates being powered by the hatch closing mechanic the game likely wouldn't have been going on for as long. That means that if you quickly Kill the first 3 survivors then the 4th simply won't have had enough time to cleanse the totems. When survivors have the chance to gen rush this isn't an issue but this one case is a bit different.
Not necessarily enough to cause serious nerfs mind you. But that's the argument. It would be easy to just reword it to only not activate in that one situation and be identical otherwise.
Noed- activates upon exit gates being powered, Two things make this happen with new endgame, Survivors finish gens, or killer closes hatch with last survivor up, Last survivor can still open a gate , Why do you and others keep posting like NOED is active all game?
the last survivor has a chance too find the hatch first which normally they already are there at it, if the survivor cannot get the hatch first in the first place they still have a chance, why do survivors need 1 million chances at everything?
Ca'nt cleanse totems? then ca'nt find the hatch? Then ca'nt open a gate? How many more chances do you need?!
At this point, the post is just about being entitled to win now..
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@Poweas said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/428135#Comment_428135
@Incirion Ima just escape ASAP XD. Screw this endgame. :P
That is the point of the new endgame after all.
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@Poweas said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/428118#Comment_428118
@AlexAnarchy I never normally complain about NOED, I'm lazy as hell, and I never clean totems, so I accept the NOED to the face as survivor. I always have. Just that this endgame collapse is going to cause more than a few problems.
The only thing this literally changes is you have a time limit...Nothing else really... if your trying too somehow say a time limit makes Noed an issue then your just using it as an excuse to try for a Noed nerf...Noed is not changing and how it works is not changing, The only thing endgame changes is you ca'nt just hold the game from ending anymore.
Thank you for also clarifying the exact issue survivors have with Noed, " I'm too lazy to do totems"
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@Poweas said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/428105#Comment_428105
@AlexAnarchy Obviously your persistent 🤔, I respect that so I'll break it down for you. If my team gets snowballed by a Billy at 5 gens in the first 2 minutes, but I unbreakable, stealth and heal up, is it fair if I get NOED to my face when my team are potatoes? I can't 'cleanse totems' because I have no chance to thanks to a potato team. So therefore, I lose because Billy is fast and he has NOED.
Has'nt this been the same argument used to say How Noed is bad for the game even before this endgame collapse came of mention?
Most survivors are potatoes, that's why they always argue about Noed, cuz they ca'nt stand not finishing a round in under 3 minutes and then they expect to not get punished for it.
That's been the issue, survivors refuse to adapt and as long as they refuse to adapt, NOED is gonna get em everytime they don't do totems.
The devs have also Said Noed is fine the way it is now as survivors can prevent it from happening, it's a risk but sadly it's an easy risk for killers cuz survivors refuse too play any other way than the current meta.
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I watched the video twice and it seems like that the survivor will die no matter what once the killer closed the hatch.
uhhh what?...drugs?
Did you even watch the video?
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@Poweas said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/428100#Comment_428100
@AlexAnarchy You didn't even read it did you? Forget it, I give up on this thread.
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Does'nt matter, Noed will not activate during endgame if the totems got cleansed. No excuses anymore, just cleanse them.
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If the killer closes the hatch, THAT activates and things go ridiculous for survivors.
Much better idea...cleanse the totems and stop trying to use any excuse to nerf Noed.
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@se05239 said:
You'll probably see improvement when the dedicated servers come but before that.. The killer's ping dictates over-the-pallet hits.
They still gonna get hit through pallet drops even with dedicated cuz they drop them too late.
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Before you say “just don’t get greedy for the stun” most of the time you have to drop the pallet at boom you get hit through the pallet.
Start dropping them quicker then and stop going for that one extra loop. Everything in dbd has a risk too it and pallets are no different.
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@ChandraZake said:
Yes .. but apparently face camping is still a thing now..cause apparently killer just sits in a corner or camp near the hooked survivor...which mAke it damn impossible for others to for the rescue..
That's not facecamping...that is simply camping and it's not against the rules so sorry but you gotta deal with it.
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@Chi said:
I doubt they will let anything touch the timer.
It is just going to make me play less survivor. At least, I will stop playing solo. Because it is going to make solo survivor end game hell. Everyone will just dip out. Unless there is an incentive to stay in. I hope they have thought of it, and have something in place for it.
That's the point?...gtfo out of the match when endgame happens...
It's almost like your saying survivors should be allowed to just hold the game from ending even when the gates are powered and the hatch is open...
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These are the end game perks that i believe will either be too strong in endgame collapse, have potential to work better with it, or won't work at all due to its introduction.
Noed and bloodwarden too strong?
Bloodwarden only holds for 1 of 3 minutes - too strong...BS
Noed - can be prevented form happening at all and in 3 minutes can destroy the hex totem - too stroing...Nice try for another noed nerf..
You literally have 3 minutes to gtfo out of the game now, stop whining that you ca'nt bully for longer than 3 minutes now...
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People pay for a right too play an online game, not too abuse it, sorry Entitled players but if you d/ced all the time in any other online game, your going to get punished.
Sure, they can incentivize reasons to stay but It's simply common sense with online gaming that you do no just d/c anytime a round is not going the way you want it too and that is what is happening in DBD the most form this d/cing issue.
For just 1 minor example, you d/c from a dungeon in warcraft more than once in a short amount of time, you get a 30 min d/c ban after.
d/c from a pvp instance at all, 15 min d/c ban.
That's a major mmo for just one example of d/ing bans, and dbd has had 3 d/c ban waves so go on ahead and keep making excuses, we will see yuh folks after dedicated servers come in and tracking folks who abuse the exit match button in mass becomes easier~
There is plenty of reason to still ban folks who have abused this even if there was incentives put in. It's abuse, simple as that.
If someone's gonna just screw over everyone elses fun for ther own selfish reasons in half the games they get placed in on an online game, then they should just uninstall at that point.
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This just sounds like Legion again....but at 115% like legion should have been and still should be.
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DS was a good perk, it required skills (Skill check), it was counterable with enduring, Unnerving presence or by dribbling the survivor.
Sorry you lost your free escape on first down..
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DEVs, you just spit in the face of solo survivors who bought your game. The game is absolutely UNPLAYABLE for those who play to escape!
And yet I win 80% of my solo survivor games cuz I got good at other things than just trying to loop.
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DBD is already very skewed towards benefiting the killer and making the killer stronger than survivors. I am all game for a challenge.
I needed a good laugh...
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@DexyIV said:
@AlexAnarchy said:
Remember, the devs said Legion was gonna be a FUN killer , not a balanced one , they screwed up bigtime right from the moment they decided on that.They sure got the fun part down. And by down I mean not at all. For anyone lol
exactly!~
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@Dreamnomad said:
@AlexAnarchy said:
Camping and tunneling are not against the rules, thus not an issue that needs fixing, get over it.You're funny. According to the million or so posts crying about camping and tunneling on the forums it is an issue. Yes. I fully realize that camping and tunneling isn't "against the rules". I've done my share of both. And probably a few other people's share as well. But I try not to be "that guy" anymore. The majority of my games are as a killer, but I've played enough as a survivor to recognize how obnoxious the playstyle is.
It just isn't fun for survivors. Since 80% of the players in a given game are survivors if they aren't having fun then the long term health of the game is in jeopardy. Since camping is the #1 issue survivors have and tunneling is the #2 issue survivors have then addressing those issues is a good idea. And it isn't like I haven't considered the position of killers. The time survivors spend in the ghost world in addition to the time it takes to get off the hook and healed back up gives the killer time to actually chase and hunt. There are also a lot of different aspects to the system that can be tweaked if it proves to be too much in one sides favor.
Not against the rules, ofc survivors hate it cuz it makes them die and lose, Old News, survivors hate getting killed period.