Nurse nerf incoming boys!
When asked what Killer they will rework next mathieu vehemently answered nurse. Now Stephan tried to calm everyone by saying „We‘ll rework mainly her addons“. Keyword here being „mainly“. My guess is they will add a cooldown to her power. Probably not unlike spirits who is, mind you, the first and only good killer that has a cooldown.
but what do you think they‘ll do? Maybe just add a stun fx?
Edit: So in conclusion I was right as confirmed by peanits. Nurse power will recieve some „slight“ adjustments. Now whether that means a base range decrease or a charge time decrease, I think its fairly obvious that her base power will recieve a nerf.
Tldr: After 3 years of killers having counterplay to rank 1 swf groups the defs finally decided to change that.
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ye boiii let's dumpster Nurse :D
So I guess by your logic if a survivor main, like me admits that gen times are unfair against most killers and that some loops are too safe them I’m not a survivor main. You have to use a different play style against hag and spirit but yet Nurse gets all the attention, there is a reason for this.
I don't see any correlation between the two and it would be lovely if you wouldn't interpret what you deem to be my logic.
Hag and Spirit are still loopable, albeit having some tools to counter it. If you look at gameplay by Survivors, they will loop both Killers. If it's wise to do it is an irrelevant question to this discussion.
@DocOctober Well, record a video against a lvl 1 nurse and show us how you escape for her
they eigther just rework their add ons, or they better have some GOOD buffs for the other killers in the same patch.
Please just don't touch her basekit. Only nerf her damn addons but leave her alone. She is balanced and beatable
you can be sure that the hell will open up if they dare to touch base nurse after 3 years. same with billy, while swf stays like it is. i really hope for the sake of the game that they think twice before changing stuff on her.
Nurse is unfair with those survivors that had been playing hours and hours too.
Balanced? In the current state of the game with gen times, she is somewhat needed. But she is not balanced lol
They see spirits success with a cooldown and think that its something that all killers should have----> this isnt the case... spirit has a constant mind game that makes the cooldown work (her animations and how her power works keep survivors guessing) ---> the other killers like legion dont need the cooldown.
the nurse doesnt nor should she have one! If they butcher itll be a very bad time! Shes the tip of the spear, the queen!!! and unless the devs want to replace her----> as in change the pace and let another killer take the throne then they should just tweak her addons and leave the kit alone!
They admitted her addons needed work, not her base kit. There's a difference. Her kill rate is high at rank one, because that's a LOT of experience needed to fuel her killing spree. Why punish somebody who has experience?
It isn’t punishment, it is nerfing something unbalanced.
You realize you're punishing survivors who have thousands of hours of experience too by having Nurse ignore all chase mechanics, right?
You mean the exact opposite side of the coin as SWF? Please tell me that balance update is coming next.
i think that just putting back the pallet stun/interrupt while blinking would be pretty decent of a nerf , not legion level but adds a bit of counterplay
Console nurse is mostly irrelevant anyway. Even less people will play her.
As long as only Nurse's addons will be touched, I will be happy :)
I hope they don't change her too much. Toxic survivors mains will become even more unbearably entitled if they always cater to them.
Calling it. Remove all extra blinks add ons except Campbells, rework Campbells into fragile wheeze, and then nerf range add ons by 25-50% and/or remove their ability to stack.
Base Nurse is fine. It's when her strong add ons come in that make her overwhelming
They're already catering. The elite survivors wants an ez gg against all killers. Instead of picking nurse when you see a SWF in the lobby, it is advisable to dodge the unwinnable match. When SWF can't get any games maybe they'll ask the devs for help.
This would be reasonable if also the uber-buffs to pallets from patch 1.1.1 were also completely reverted.
Nurse is really fun, so I hope basekit will never be changed. Her addons do seem a little overwhelming to me though.
But i don't see blinks being removed since its needed for achievements, not to mention ps4
Now that's a solution. Make it so that SWFs have to complain that no one wants to go against them, and then when asked why, they'll say that it's because they asked for killers to be nerfed so much.
5 BLINK NURSE
IS GONE
https://youtu.be/LDU_Txk06tM?t=74Probably still exist but have more fatigue or decreased range :)
They wouldn't remove Nurse entirely, but they might want to get rid of the second blink, because... survivor mains tend to be entitled to things...
Yet you do NOTHING about SWF, LOOPING, GEN RUSH, ETC. Why can't you ever have this urgency when killers are suffering? The legendary God Nurse players are mostly gone. Kinda funny how there was no statements about depip squad, but now suddenly, you have all this data on nurse.
Give me a break. Nurse is getting the same treatment as legion.
A buff makes it stronger for the person playing the character/ using the perk. Old DS was stronger for the survivor but overall was worse for the balance of the game. So the DS nerf was a nerf. You're definition of buff is incorrect.
A buff means to make stronger for the player using the character/perk. Old DS was stronger for the survivor but was worse for the entire game's health. Your definition of buff was wrong. @switch
Bruh ds was buffed lmao
If you're a bad killer and you tunnel then sure, it seems like a buff. If you're a normal killer, it was nerfed.
DS used to work without any requirements, it now has requirements, you have to be absolutely clueless to think it is somehow buffed, bruh.
Don't forget omega blink as well :v
I am all for changing her add-ons, but if they are gonna touch her base power, I am so out. She is just too much fun. And it just feels great that she is the only killer who you can use add-on less, AKA pretty much not invest any bloodpoints once you got your perks.
Survivors dont need add-ons, who do killers need them?
Billy, luv this killer <3
They will rather be enraged "that there's only cowards who dodge a slight challenge" than admit/realize it's their own fault especially while theyre lobbying against killers with the same argumentation.
Spirit next btw.
Great, i´m happy about it.
Maybe we can get the same Addons like the absolutly OP Z-Block, or those Legion has got. Hopefully, the minor tweaks to her power means reducing the blink range. Would be glad to see the base range nerfed. And maybe blinky girl needs a higher fatigue. Let´s try and give her the base fatigue Legion has after ending his frency. And, most important, the power bar. Pls implement a power bar, but - just for the fun factor - do it the same way like with Freddy, so she´s not able to blink from the start and has to wait for the bar to get filled. Would be awesome to she her hovering around with her 96,25 %.
This doesn't surprise me. I'm usually not too happy with nerfs to killers, but I honestly think Nurse is just too powerful (especially with certain addons).
The only changes that are really needed are addons primarily combos of things like omega blink and 5 blink nurse. That and a slight nerf to base distance. She has too much chase and map pressure considering she can go through walls and avoid loops. Other than that they are fine. Maybe add a slight accuracy debuff so she sways a bit from a blink.
Addon dependence should never be the way to go for killers and survivors.
The base abilitys should always be strong enough, so that the killer, or survior can fulfill his role.
Imagine survivors could only repair gens with a certain addon... That is just meh...
Wish you luck Nurse guys. After the Legion mega-nerf, Pig nerfs and killer perk nerfs, we know you will need it^^.
@Peanits "Mainly her add-ons" is exactly what got people worried. If they said "only her add-ons", no one would have cared. Behavior doesn't have a good track record when it comes to small changes..
Nurse 2.0 might be like the new Legion. A laughing stock with a power so handicapping that it's not worth using.
Changing blink range destroys her map controll
Making her weak to pallets makes her wraith level
removing her power and putting it in add-ons specifically the pink ones, that are the only ones to ever do anything, destroys her like it has done to every other killer.
There is no way that you can "tweak" her base kit without giving her the legion treatment.
I disagree. Killers should be good enough at base kit to handle 4 solos, but if you want to play against SWF you should need add-ons. Not ultra rares, just white maybe yellows. If you main a killer you should have a crap ton of white/yellow add-ons, and even if you don't you should still have plenty enough to maintain consistency.
Like I main Spirit, p3 all perks, and I have like at least 100 of each white and at least 50 of each yellow. I have no problem just using add-ons even if I feel like I might not need them.
The problem with your line of thinking is that, if a killer is good enough to compete at the highest level without add-ons, then anything extra you give them just makes them too strong.
And unlike survivor items, killer add-ons persist throughout the game. Yes, survivors can keep their items after a trial, but if you bring a purple medkit with the best add-ons it has a finite amount of usage. Killers on the other hand have their add-on effects then entire time with no limit, which is why it's okay to require white or yellow add-ons to make them viable at the highest level. Especially when it's really not that costly to use them.
SWF removed from the game?
Slight? XD
Ouch, Spirit doesn't need a nerf either. X /
Maybe swap Prayer beads to red, and Father's glasses to purple, but that's the only balance she needs.
How about we ever so slightly change the survivor from holding m1 to running in circles to something more interesting amd perhaps even require skill?
Of course lets butcher the only killer playable in red ranks
Nurse isn't the only killer playable in red ranks, for God sake.
Looping for long periods of time requires skill. And if you are getting looped for minutes at a time you are just getting outplayed, plain and simple.
And I see way more huntress than nurse at red ranks. A few billies, and plenty of spirit; but those take way more skill than nurse to 4k with.
I love this forum
@Sluzzy
>Instead of picking nurse when you see a SWF in the lobby, it is advisable to dodge the unwinnable match. When SWF can't get any games maybe they'll ask the devs for help.
Or maybe when all survivors see Nurse in game, they be DC or go on hook specially, for dodge the unwinnable match. When Nurse main can't get any games maybe they'll ask the devs for help.
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Good balance - when all killers are equal. The current situation is unfair to both the survivors and the other killers.