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@GrimmGaliard said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2299786#Comment_2299786
Jesus. Seeing passive aggressive mains with a chip on their shoulder are disgusting. I wonder if there's some sort of spray for it
Funny you dodged the topic with name calling. That is typical and sad honestly. Have a good day. :)
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@SoapNSpook said:
How would you describe how you see yourself in DBD?
How would you describe yourself in DBD from the point of view of other people who see you?
How do you treat the version of you that other people see?
Which "you" do you consider more valid?
I’m a casual player (survivor usually). I like to play the game and get points. I still have things I want to improve on. I play most evenings with a group of buddies who are also not top tier players. I usually play Dwight or Bill. Lately it’s Jill
sadly the game is becoming more and more killer sided to the point 9/10 rounds aren’t fun at all. Killers get 4K if I’m solo or with friends almost every game. I’m a rank 5 at moment.
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@HATCH said:
ok so nemesis needs one change and its the cooldown between taking the tentacle and using it.İt just takes 0.5 secs to use the tentacle.For example pyramid head has to ike put his sword down to use his m1.But nemesis dont have something like that.He pulls out and bam easy window or pallet hit.Survivors dont even get a chance to finish the vault.Long story short they need to add a cooldown between pulling out the tentacle and using.And no one can say that its not broken.
Lol oh they won’t want to hear that on here. You’ll get a lot of “you’re just bad at the game” or “ he’s easy to counter”, yet none of them play survivor. Lol.
I agree with you.
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@GrimmGaliard said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/260145/why-are-survivors-being-punished
A killer getting 32k isn't a survivor doing poorly, it's just a survivor not winning. If a killer gets 4 immediate hooks because all the survivors did poorly, he doesn't get all those points.
Here, let me do it this way
"Why are Killers getting punished for hard stomping survivors? We slug them all in the first 4 minutes, hook them and they die immediately. Why do I still depip because I didn't let them unhook? Fix your game."
It’s always the survivors fault. Killer plays toxic? It’s survivors not doing their part. Killer loses? It’s survivors being op or swf. Killer can’t get 4K? Devs only care about survivors. Lol I can’t.
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@Tactrix said:
When survivors do poorly in a game the killer gets off with 32000 for the kills, yet when a killer does poorly, gets no hooks, gets run around all game, and loses we get depipped because he couldn't hook so we don't get to unhook? ######### kind of BS logic is that? Fix the scoring in this game, we shouldn't be penalized for your incompetence.
True!!! Killer is an easier role and also allows one player to take the game hostage. Throw in speed boosts, lunge, and op perks and you have a very unfun game for survivor. Killers know it too which is why they adamantly defend game as is. You’ll see it here all day, every day.
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@katoptris said:
Survivors love to win overall, even the types of people who play survivor specifically play survivor cause. they. like. to. win.
That being said, Dead by Daylight has been very biased towards making survivor far to powerful.
Pot meet kettle. Killers care way more about winning than survivors. We just want a chance to have fun and get wind points before a spirit with Noed, rancor, bbq, and pop tunnels us into the ground every game. If killers weren’t so sweaty, everyone could enjoy the game but you need that 4K to feel validated. Sorry.
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@Ramxenoc445 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/259944/why-im-quitting-dead-by-daylight
After reading all that if you're not a troll I will say this. If you're losing 15 matches in a row you and or your friends and the other people you speak to are not as good as you may think. Survivor is easy if you know the game and even if you don't it can still be fairly easy and there is a reason most people play survivor. It is the easier role to play. Killer is harder to play and harder to learn. It is you versus 4 other people. Against when you're playing survivor it is you and 3 other people versus 1. Killers need to have the right perks that work for them and the killer they play which means leveling multiple killers and getting their perks then leveling the killer you want to play. Playing survivor you level Meg and level Jake or David and you've got meta perks that have been meta since the characters released. This game isn't killer sided and never will be. If you think it is then you need to work on your gameplay one way or another whether its saving people the correct way, doing gens more, or getting better at looping each killer. The ONLY Killer I think needs a nerf is Nurse because she's straight bs most of the time. But everyone else has clear cut ways of countering them.
You should hold up a mirror. If you think the game is survivor sided, while most killers are banking 4K rounds consistently…..perhaps it’s you who just isn’t good at the game.
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@Nazeef13 said:
You will get dismissed by every bias killer main on this forum even though kill rate has been around 70% for a while.
I remember when escape rate was 55% and killers would complain the game is survivor sided. Now that the escape rate is 30%, no one bats an eye.
This! Facts all around. They know it’s true as well, they’re just used to one common theme here. Every other post is bait or trolling (according to them).
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@BrokenSouI said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2298415#Comment_2298415
You'll have to ask vanand areoll apparently 🤣
Can you guys ever vocalize with facts and data vs. ganging up on anyone who doesn’t follow the “killer is too hard, help me get a 4K” narrative? It’s exhausting. You are the same type of schoolyard bullied who cry the moment someone stands up to them. Pathetic.
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Wait they messed it up again? You have got to be kidding me. 🤦♂️
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@Ruma said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2298264#Comment_2298264
Ah yes, just because YOU dont enjoy it ,lets disable it for everyone else who is enjoys it.
Typical killer mentality. It’s always about them. They’ll vote to remove an entire map because it might be harder to get that 4K every round.
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@TheClownIsKing said:
I’ve had to resort to my “You Don’t Care About My Fun, So I Don’t Care About Yours” build/strategy.
Doc with Distressing, Coulrophobia, Overwhelming Presence, Unnerving Presence, Iridescent King, and Iridescent Queen, AND LOTS of Slugging.
Yeah... deal with it. No more playing nice.
Let’s be real, you don’t ever care about anyone’s fun. It’s about that 4K at all costs. Give me a break.
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@BrokenSouI said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2298366#Comment_2298366
Again..You need to look no further then the stats would show nurse is the worst killer. Do you think she's the worst killer ?
That's all you need to know about what those stats truly show
She requires actual skill and a learning curve to play, which is why she is played the least. Even trapper has over 50% kill rate and he requires zero brain power. Killer isn’t hard. I got 4K games at rank 18 and only had to start trying at purple ranks. There is no skill development with killer where as survivor is a huge grind. That is why on red ranks survivors are lethal and killers struggle. Killers never “got good”, because they didn’t have to outside red ranks.
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@BrokenSouI said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2298306#Comment_2298306
Sweet. Let's see those amazing survivor skills. Show us you know how to run tiles. Show us you are not the problem.And that killers are -so- over powered. Show us team mates not doing stupid #########
You said killer is underpowered, now you’re doubting survivor skills. Which is it? Are killers weak or are you just lacking in the skill department?
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@aroell said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2298223#Comment_2298223
No they don’t, most people here are killer mains and if you say something bad about killer you will get jumped.
Facts. The whole forum is an entitled killer main pity fest. They all live to argue and condemn anyone who doesn’t agree with them. It’s sad
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@TheGorgon said:
There’s no way you believe that the game is killer sided or the devs favor them...
Except if you look at kill rates and 4K game percentages across all ranks. That shows the game is killer sided and devs cater to killers lol.
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@ALostPuppy said:
Christ you people need to go and find something else to do than make new accounts and post bait threads everyday.
Funny it’s always bait if it goes against the killer victim narrative that is so popular on here. Maybe, just maybe, not everyone agrees with you (gasp).
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@BrokenSouI said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2298355#Comment_2298355
Kill rates are irrelevant. Anyone without a narrative freely admits they're skewed.
If they were accurate. Nurse would need buffs
What it does show is that most survivors are total potatoes. That's not indicative of killer strength
theyre only irrelevant because they don’t fit your narrative. That makes you a hypocrite. I don’t have time for it.
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@Bumbus said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2297581#Comment_2297581
It is not an opinion, it is bloated "Killer OP" and probably a bait, why would anyone be nice to them. Wanna see something nice - buy a flower.
You’re part of the problem. Most users on here are killer mains who immediately bombard, shame, and bully other users who dare mention killers are op. You make it impossible to have dialogue or for survivors to express their feelings because in your world, your opinion is above all others. I bet you okay the same way. It’s about you and that 4K. Trust me, we’ve seen it and it sucks.
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@BrokenSouI said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2298131#Comment_2298131
Because that's the gods honost truth. If survivors are competent and effecient with their time. Most killers stand no chance on a lot of the maps
kill stats show otherwise. Maybe it’s you?
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@YuiMain101 said:
Killers love to win overall, even the types of people who play killer specifically play killer cause. they. like. to. win.
That being said, Dead by Daylight has been very biased towards making Killers far to powerful. Within the year+ of playing, I'd flip flop between rank 3-8, which took plenty of time and effort, given I loved the gameplay overall. It was addicting fun, I'd spend about $60 for packs a month! That was until the new rank, pip, and blood points system came out.
I don't care if my luck or odds are bad every few matches if I clearly make dumb choices in that very moment; I can live with that, but I like to believe I'm not an amateur. That being said, ever since each past 2-3 or so updates I've noticed not only have hit boxes been fixed fairly enough, but Killers have been buffed when they already needed being nerfed. Nor has DBD tried to fix game mechanics to avoid toxic Killers tunneling, face camping, and griefing/exploiting to keep their title of an unfair, but high rank killer.
Without survivors, there isn't a game for Killers to enjoy. And although I understand this is a competitive game, it's also one people log onto to have fun and have a laugh over, even if we are the one's being the idiot and getting just s l a u g h t e r e d. Thing is, it's no longer enjoyable with the amounts of toxic Killers that still don't get punished for unfair game play. Constantly I hear, "This game is gonna take reports seriously." It never does. That being said, I don't think this game is listening to the high demands, which overall gonna make a high amount of gamers leave it altogether if this isn't resolved.
Wrapping this up, I'm over it. A once enjoyable game- is corrupted. I only know the sore loser Killers will continue to defend their strong builds, perks, and extra abilities to continue being these toxic winners, throwing fits to make the gameplay more of an advantage for them. Overall, I'm done with this childish, toxic fan base who prioritize a title on a game, than actual fair game play, which I personally have tried hard to stay consistently while playing DBD.
Long story short, and what my friends and I say all the time which has made multiple large discord servers quit this game,
"This game is broken."
When red, purple, and green ranks lose every single match 15 times over? You know the Killers are far too powerful in the game mechanics. (Specifcally the Nemisis, but there's many others that need nerfing) Which honestly, has pushed me to quit until I hear they ACTUALLY, fix this issue.
I agree. My buddies and I took a year off after pyramid head was released just due to not having fun. We came back recently and things are worse. We are all on rank 4-8 usually and lose almost every game. Before the break we played for a year or so, and while not top tier players, we are not new either.
I get why killers defend their position. Who doesn’t want easy 4K games? The thing is the data personal experience show the game is massively killer sided. If you aren’t in red ranks and can play 7 hours a day, the game isn’t fun. Right now it doesn’t appear fun for either side but killers (IMO) repeatedly play sweaty and are toxic the majority of the time. Good post!
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@latinfla4 said:
Do any of you play haddonfield right now? My game dcs everytime right now 😉 that and last minute key changes...you want a quick game and I am helping you achieve that(to bad about other survivors using offerings).
I’m not surprised. Poor killers have it so unfair. Jk lol
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@TheeclumsyNinja said:
The grind is unrealistic and ridiculous.
i started playing 2 years ago, i got 1250 hrs in the game.
Got spirit P3, trapper and wraith P1 and Meg P1…. I have all but Trickster and 3 survivors unlocked all and all to lvl 50.
I main about 6 survivors and try and mix around the killers i play.
I dont have more then half the Tier 3 perks unlocked for any of them. Its crazy to have that many hours and still having to grind so hard is dumb.
If i main’d 4 or 5 killers maybe id have the perk list completed but i like the variety.
I agree. Killers can rank up so fast and it takes survivor forever.
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@Lunar_Wing said:
I really enjoy playing as Nemi but every time I get him as a survivor its just sucks the fun out of the game. He can pull out that whip so fast that pallets and windows are useless against him. He needs a nerf. Make it take longer to pull out the whip or have a longer recover from using it. Right now its basically a STBL as a MS with RANGE
I agree. The only defense survivors have is pallets and windows. If you can get hit through those instantly it sort of makes it unplayable.
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@TwitchyMike said:
So I want to know what's worth unlocking so I don't waste as much time on other killers that have lesser quality perks.
well the ones I see all use the same few. Bbq, hexes, tinkerer, monitor, and a few I’m forgetting. Oh nurses calling.
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@WishIcouldmain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2296063#Comment_2296063
While I consider Myer's weak I hate facing him. Always seems to have a tier 3 on me that just runs out. And I can escape and still consider it an awful game
Same. I had two gens done before I even interacted with him. My team really dropped the ball but that’s solo play. Lol
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@WishIcouldmain said:
Spirit. I can name counters to the killers you listed. But, Spirit is hope she guesses wrong.
What sucks about Meyers is he can capitalize off bad teammates and I go down. In match I listed they were letting him stalk from the start and we all suffered.
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@Kebek said:
It's very personal as everyone finds different things annoying to go againtst.
For me it's trapper, I hate facing him with all of my beiing.
Oh me too. I hear that trap sound and my heart drops, especially on maps like the swamp. Just a very unfun mechanic.
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@Gnarly said:
Now I have officially played as Huntress om Switch, PS4, and PC...
She isn't hard at all on PC as far as I can tell. Her hitboxes are so janked and I can aim where someone was and let go and BAM hit...
Not that hard, but the map can hurt her a lot.
She’s busted. I’ve been hit by her when she wasn’t even on same side of the wall as me. It’s like her Hatchets are heat seeking lol.
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@Dhurl421 said:
I agree, the penalty is great. When these lag issues are fixed I can't wait for it to turn back on to deter certain types of players.
Nothing quite like soloing 3 gens while the Feng runs the killer after the 2 man swf DC'd when one of them got downed.
They should fix the game and address why players dc or the problem will never be resolved.
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@CoalTower said:
So I was going to post this after it happened, but I've been busy responding to others on here. So about half an hour ago, I was playing Nurse. I didn't miss a single blink. Not one(I'm proud of this 😂)
But guess how many kills I got? Two. The match lasted maybe 5 minutes, and I got ten hooks in that time. I still only get two kills.
So tell me. How is it fair that survivors doing gens quickly can nearly beat a Nurse playing perfectly? And it's not that I'm salty about not getting a 4k, I was just thinking:
If they got two people out against a Nurse that was playing perfectly, then they would definitely get at least 3 out with any other killer.
This needs fixing. It takes absolutely no skill to do this when it's the most powerful thing in the game.
If every game is a 4K that mean only killer is having fun. Do you see why that would be an issue?
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@Edgars_Raven said:
We can tell youre not in reds yet since you think we never camp tunnel or use noed 😂
I’ve been in red a bunch but it’s rare to see killers act the way you describe. Maybe that’s a ps4 thing.
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@DragonMasterDarren said:
Red's and Purples for both sides have the most consistent amounts of toxicity
Greens spike on occasion but those cases are few and far between
I’ve had best luck with red rank teams and killers. Maybe it’s a ps4 thing. I randomly just got placed in a lobby as a rank 6 with 12-14s and it was brutal. The killer (hag) was extra toxic. Haven’t seen it in a while.
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@SoapNSpook said:
Why do you spend time playing this game? Have you actually thought about how much lifetime you have spent running, killing, hooking, repairing, healing, saving, escaping, winning, losing, feeling nothingness, feeling arrogance, feeling anger, feeling relief. Is it pleasant?
What's so pleasant about it? Do you feel satisfied when you fulfill the in-game goals while can't carry the weight of real life requirements? Do you need any sort of fulfillment? Emotional one? Is the life dull? Social one? Is the life lonely? Do you want to feel special at least somewhere? Do you want people to notice you, be happy around you, be angry because of you? Do you wish being meaningful in someone else's life? Do you wish to be meaningful?
Is it why you play this game for too much? Do you know why do you play? Do you even enjoy the time you spend on it? Ten hours, hundreds, thousand hours. Is it addiction? What lacks out there that you need it in this illusion of reality?
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Do you even want to answer this?
It’s oddly addicting. I only play a few hours a night with some friends if we’re all on. Right now I am on leave from work for a few weeks so I’ve been playing more but you’re right, it’s not fun the majority of the time.
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@Zephinism said:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/I830OZC120MF/screenshot-430.png
Almost a full week of this now.
Any fixes on the horizon for console players?
What’s the issue? The dcs? Players aren’t a fan of this killer. I don’t find him that bad but getting hit over loops is not fun. Plus most nemesis players I’ve seen camp and tunnel badly.
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@Pulsar said:
I just wanted to play a game of Nemesis and instead I have to deal with this self-righteous arrogant #########.
I didn't even tunnel, he got grabbed off of an unhook and missed his DS, then DC'd.
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/9O0MVC7KPEH5/ddos-li-282-29.jpg
just for the record, yes, DDoS'ing is illegal.
You sure? Most nemesis players I’ve seen tunnel hard!!!! Like bubba in a new outfit.
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@Northener1907 said:
Title.
So much complains about camping and tunnelling. But noone talks about killer problems. Genrush for example. So many times killers are losing 2 or 3 gens in early game. And that makes game so sweaty for them. Survivors complaining about tunneller killers makes game so sweat but they are also makes games sweat for killers because of genrush.
Even Nurse can be defeat by genrush. So why this is not problem? How can killer try 12 hooks with this genrush problem?
Lol gen rushing is a made up term. You mean survivors doing an objective faster than you’d like? Let’s call it what it is okay. What would you like them to do? Wait in a corner until you’re ready? Lol. Smh.
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@TheGhostHasAFace said:
Man, it's been a while since I've been on here and played DBD but I started playing again a couple of weeks ago. Glad to be able to t-bag people with Ghost Face again. Anyways...
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Imagine disconnecting the first minute of a game just because you heard the Deathslinger on a Bill(me). Since they had TTV next to their name, once I lost Mr.Slinger, I checked Mr.TTV's stream while hiding in a corner and texted around the lines of 'Why did you leave us'
Their answer: "It's a Deathslinger on Haddonfield like, it's not great content. I have no moral obligation to be there and you can DC too if you want."
Hey.
Deathslinger can be difficult. In general, slugging, tunneling, proxy & face camping especially is frustrating. But, that's why there are THREE OTHER PEOPLE WITH YOU. Granted, this is solo-queue and the best communication you can do is pointing and beckoning people. However, please don't use that as an excuse to just give up immediately. I can get DC'ing when you're dead on hook and downed. I can also somewhat understand when you have to kiss Nemesis when you've been hooked for a long time. (FIGURATIVELY SPEAKING)
I wouldn't even be making that much of a fuss and make this post if I didn't use my toolbox to sabotage hooks. I managed to buy time and got to one generator left but, it was all for naught in the end. Besides, a Dwight Dc'ed after Mr.TTV left so it was just me and a Meg. If anything I was surprised we made it that far.
It was almost as if we could've won if we were more selfless and didn't result in other players losing their items and de-pipping COUGH COUGH.
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TL;DR Be more selfless (Unless the situation says otherwise). Don't be like Mr.TTV and leave immediately because 'It's not great content'. Actually, play the game for two minutes at least LMAO.
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Anyways, I'm going to hop back to Ghostface and text survivors what their favorite scary movie is. See ya-
Survivors are sick of the same boring narrative and try hard killers, while being told the game sucks just because they aren’t good players. You want to play that way? Fine, then expect dcs. It’s not ideal but it is what it is.
I know most killers don’t comprehend the idea of a game being fun for ALL players. They only care about that 4K. Survivors are sick of being placed in one sick fest match after another. I know I am.
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@aroell said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2292772#Comment_2292772
And? It doesn’t have to be bait just because they are saying stuff that doesn’t make sense to you.
Thank you. They always say my posts are bait but never provide good counter arguments. Im not baiting in posts, im asking questions nobody seems to want to discuss.
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Well on here nothing a killer does is toxic apparently. It’s always survivors fault. Noed is because survivors didn’t get enough totems, not a reward for a killer who did poorly all game. Maps are survivor sided yet devs keep removing loops and windows, and the 4K rate is sky high. Killer tunneling? That’s survivors fault since they did a rescue, right? See the theme here?
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@toxik_survivor said:
I see many complaints on tunneling and this has been addressed before but you guys have to understand that tunneling is a mechanic in the game for a reason. Tunneling is a good strategy for getting a dub if you like it or not. Its unfun to play against but not ever match is fun.
It’s not a mechanic just a way for unskilled lazy killers to get their 4K at the detriment to the other 4 players. All I see is excuses for bad behavior from killers and finger pointing at survivors and devs. Yet somehow killer has it the easiest in dbd. 👌
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@CoalTower said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2292658#Comment_2292658
That only shows that most survivors are bad.
So it’s always the survivors fault with zero emphasis on killer? Then why all the complaints about survivor maps and perks of survivors are just “bad”?
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@EntitySpawn said:
Let's see... maybe because there are rank 1 survivors that should be rank 15? Like god damn you expect to escape versing a good killer when you have no game understanding... like hello I'm gonna get a 4k if no one does gens...
That wasn’t what I said at all. You got defensive but have no facts or data. The escape ratio to kill is drastically killer favored on ALL ranks.
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@SomberNokk said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2292786#Comment_2292786
No, it makes sense, its called selection bias. Everyone does it. I think OP should take into consideration all stats not just lower ranked and anecdotal evidence.
Provide the stats then! Video evidence. I hear about these struggling killers and I don’t see it. Not in my game play solo or swf, and not on streams or YouTube. Just because you say something is so, doesn’t make it reality my friend.
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@Northener1907 said:
Change my mind. My proves from my experiences:
- I saw so many killers let us go when team were played so bad. I am not saying all killer players doing this but i saw so much killer did let us go.
- So many times killers giving last guy hatch.
- When i get 1 or 2 dc, killers did let us fix gens and leave.
- Most killer players writing "gg wp" even they are lose with 4 escapes.
But survivors?
- I never saw they give me free hook when i played so bad.
- I never saw they did make game more slower when i got 1 or 2 hooks with losing 3 or 4 gens.
- So many of them are writing "gg wp" only when they wins. But some of them are nice and writing gg even they die.
- Most killers finishing games fast when they win. But survivors? When they win, they are t-bagging on gates for waste killer's more time.
Change my mind if you can.
That’s rare. Check this forum which is majority killer mains. All I see are insults and telling others to get better at game.
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@justbecause said:
Well that all depends of team or killer and who will win both sides have chance to win not just killers it's not like they 4k each match unless u play solo queue than it's understandable
Solo is bad but so is swf outside red ranks. Should a game be balanced around a small percentage of players while the majority suffers?
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@landromat said:
Honeslty killers feel weak at 50% kill rate. Should be at least 60% to not make them look silly
It’s 70% for most. Outside red ranks it’s majority 4K killer sided games. Why should we all suffer because someone living in their moms basement plays 12 hours a day to stay at rank 1. Who has the time? Games should be fun.
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@lemonsway said:
Balancing the game that way is expecting players to fail in 50% of their objective, that's hardly fair or Balanced.
But data now shows most games are a 4K for killer. Logically that would show survivors are not able to compete. You can say some are just bad but surely not all are. If they are, why is that?
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@Northener1907 said:
Because survivors playing so bad. That is only reason.
Lol nice try. It’s always the survivors fault isn’t it? Never killer. Nice logic.
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@HaunterofShadows said:
I don't believe its either sided actually. I think its incredibly balanced, definetely more balanced than in previous years
Data says opposite. So while I enjoy your ideas, they just aren’t based on data or reality. Thanks though.