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  • To the people that feel killers get so many more bloodpoints than survivor I honestly have to know....what the hell do you do all game?

  • @ClickyClicky said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1446587#Comment_1446587

    But on the reverse I had looped a wraith for most of the game and I could tell it bruised h fragile ego. He didnt camp anyone else but stayed around the hook area for me, came straight back. Tried to tunnel me down instantly and I’m running away, at some point the final gen pops and of course crappy player has his NOED crutch giving him the speed boost and I get hit down again.

    Guy was gunning for me a lot of the game because crappy wraiths cant stand not winning a chase easily, he tunneled me down and it went into the endgame and he fully deserved a DS.

    Most killers tend to crutch a load of free hooks with NOED anyway so ya know what DS kind of balances out that endgame.

    Countering one crutch perk that rewards playing poorly with another crutch perk that rewards playing poorly. Well done.

  • @SweetTerror said:

    Last night I played a match against a very toxic huntress. She brought in an Iridescent Axe Heads which down you in one hit. Two survivors disconnected immediately. She hooked and killed the third, and with me just left standing, I tried to make it to the hatch, but she downed me. She then proceeded to pick me up, broght me to the hatch, dropped me by the hatch, and then immediately closed it. She then let me crawl my way to the exit, she opened the door, only to pick me up and hook me. 😡

    I swear the toxicity that resides with this game as unlike any other game I've ever played before.

    The fact that this is impossible is making me have a hard time believing this.

  • Can someone explain to an old man what it means to be chad?

  • I feel like I speak for most object users when I say...good. I mean, I don't run object because I want to stealth around and do gens. If you want to waste your entire game trying to catch me then go for it. Whatever makes you have fun.

  • @AVoiceOfReason said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1443329#Comment_1443329

    @CLAUDETTEINABUSH Mainly, the grunts of pain is what pisses me off. She can tell what side of the pallet you're on due to the sound of the grunts being so loud and directional, at least I could tell it. The phasing part doesn't bother me much since you can manipulate your scratches but becoming a beacon of grunts is just awful. Its super easy to tell. You can even hear someone grunting in a locker with Stridor.

    Note: Edited due to spelling mistake

    You can hear people grunting in a locker without stridor. Grunts of pain isn't specific to the spirit. It is a big part of killers game play.

  • @MeltingPenguins said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1444030#Comment_1444030

    but really, people saying ooo is fine as it is and defend it with 'just play the match you get' are usually the first ones to complain about 'broken' perks when they lose.

    Not really. I think object is fine. I use it as survivor and I don't mind facing it as killer. Only time it is extremely unfair is vs a freddy. I don't complain when i lose at all...and I lose a lot lol.

  • @Callmehandsome said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1444041#Comment_1444041

    Can you link me that quote? i remember watching dev stream when they introduced reworked DS and they said it's now anti tunneling perk.

    I can not because I get an error every single time I try to use the search function on the forum :(

  • @Callmehandsome said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1441051#Comment_1441051

    That's not true. DS was designed to be anti tunneling perk and they have said this many times. They also mention that people should work to make the perk work. Like with pop you need to hook a survivor and then find generator that has been worked on under 60 seconds, put pressure with ruin to make it work etc. There is zero reguirements for DS, get hooked (failing) and get free 60 second immunity to do what ever you like

    They have stated on this very forum that DS was not designed to be anti tunneling

  • @EvilJoshy said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1443741#Comment_1443741

    The only people who would get cranky are SWFs because solos never run OoO. Honestly SWFs are the reason this perk is so hated so I say it's for the good of the game if we took it out.

    Not true. I run object solo every night.

  • So you saw them crouch behind the hook, or know they're in the closest locker, and instead of getting them you're just going to camp and tunnel? I don't get it.

  • @malatruse said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1441489#Comment_1441489

    I don't think this perk uses tokens? I think just passively becomes stronger.

    Maybe it was changed and I didn't realize it? It use to have a number down on the corner for the number of dead teammates. So it would get a 1 when the first person died. A 2 after another died etc. Does it not do that anymore?

  • I personally despise DH. Too many times I ended up on the ground and exhausted at the same time somehow. So I would choose spine chill. If you really wan't to step it up a notch OoO over spine chill. No other perk allows you to T-bag the killer from across the map.

  • @toxik_survivor said:

    Seems fine to me, how is it broken? Is it broken because it is bad or good, or is it broken just because it is broken. It comes in handy sometimes, doesn’t need a change in my opinion.

    Broken as in I will never get more than one token. I can be the last survivor and still only have 1 token. Hopefully it's not just broken for me lol.

  • Mount Ormond

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    haddonfield

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    mothers dwelling

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    badham

    mount ormond

  • Mine is Freddy, legion, and pig. I'm fine going against anyone else. Pig is only because the majority of killers must have signed some sort of waiver that requires them to play like complete scum when they play pig.

  • Morning and afternoon I get instant survivor games and 5 minute ques for killer. Evening/night I get instant killer games and 5-10 minute ques for survivor in north america. Sort of sucks but not sure how they can fix it.

  • i don't know. I think fun should be used as a metric. I completely disagree with scott about death slinger. I don't find him to be very hard to deal with at all. But some killers...freddy comes to mind are both not fun to play or play against. Completely boring to play against prolonging games with pop and the ability to get to any gen instantly is boring. Very braindead to play as and easy kills against damn near anyone.

    Legion is also boring to play as and against imo. Too weak to down people quickly but annoying enough to keep you mending/healing to make the game take forever and feel like no progress is being made on either side.

  • If having a single survivor escape at the end of the match through hatch bothers you, you can slug and find the hatch. Hook the slugged person once you know where hatch is so you can close it. Or, slug until you find and down the last survivor and then hook both. If you are losing multiple survivors to a key then you've been outplayed for most of the match anyway and should just move on to the next game. A mori allows a bad killer to get kills. No other way to look at it.

  • I think yellow windstorm should be built into wraiths base kit. Trapper should be able to carry 2 traps and not need a bag add on for that. I feel carrying all his traps would be too strong. Rat liver should be demo base kit as well. And I dont even know what to say about billy. I can't wrap my head around what they were thinking with his change.

  • I actually hope they make more killers that have less incentive to run the same build all the time. It gets boring going against BBQ, pop, and sloppy every game. I like that hook perks don't work with cages.

  • Trapper: BBQ, Corrupt, surge, pop

    Wraith: BBQ, nurses, pop, sloppy

    Billy: BBQ, Infectious, pop, whispers

    Hag: corrupt, sloppy, nurses, monitor

    Doctor: whispers, infectious, pop, BBQ

    Myers: Corrupt, BBQ, pop, surge

    Huntress: Corrupt, pop, BBQ, nurses

    Bubba: ruin, surv, nemesis, pwyf

    freddy: BBQ, pop, discordance, sloppy

    Pig: corrupt, BBQ, pop, nurses

    Clown: BBQ, Surge, pop, sloppy

    Spirit: BBQ, pop, sloppy, stridor

    Legion: BBQ, death bound, pop, sloppy

    plague, BBQ, pop, infectious, corrupt

    ghost: BBQ, sloppy, nurses, pop

    demo: BBQ, monitor, pop, STBFL

    Oni: BBQ, infectious, monitor, pop

    Slinger: BBQ, Surge, Pop, sloppy

    cone head: ruin, surv, infectious, nurses

  • It depends really. For the average player who picked him up occasionally in mid ranks, sure he will be fun. For the people with a lot of time on billy who played him in high ranks, i can say for certain, he is not fun.

  • @Sunri said:

    I can't understand why killer main's complain about state of the game its so easy to get 3/4 kills there are people with insane win streak's on killer's like 100+ ######### wins in a row show one streamer or anyone that escaped 100 times without dying once its impossible solo q survivor is much harder than playing killer and Billi nerf made him A tier killer instead of S tier I don't think those people that cry all over reddit/forum played ptb i hope the devs won't get pressured and the nerf goes live.

    You can find many streams of people owning killers. Especially swf. I think umbra just played with edgar allan bro the other week and ended a game in slightly over 3 minutes time. I have no idea how you are so concrete with billys tier so quickly. You may be right on it too I dont know. What I do know is he is boring to play now. That is my main issue with the nerf. I don't care what his tier is, he was one of the most fun killers to play as and I honestly enjoyed playing against him. While I have not played against a new billy yet I can say for certain he is extremely boring to play as.

  • @EpicBigBrain said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1431346#Comment_1431346

    Dont know why they're nerfing all the killer that actually take skill, cos now all my matches are freddys lmao

    Freddy is the perfect example of what a killer should not be. He takes zero skill. All that is required is bbq and pop and it's game over for pretty much anyone. It's so boring to play. I understand wanting to tame certain killers down a little. Honestly a really good billy was very oppressive for most survivors. He could end games extremely fast. I just wish they could have come up with another solution other than making him boring to play.

  • @EpicBigBrain said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1431322#Comment_1431322

    Yeh they're are the 2 I keep repeatedly going back to. However I really do hope that they leave Huntress base kit alone when changing her addons

    Well if you've paid any attention to what the devs do you know there isn't a chance in hell that will happen. She will get a fatigue after a hatchet throw or some boring ass cool down. Guaranteed.

  • @caz_ said:

    is it everything? the overheat feature? the new charge mechanic? what makes billy so bad for you?

    For me it's the bore of playing him now. All the hours i've put in to him learning him are pretty useless now. Instead of mind gaming with his saw and curving etc you are forced to play him like any other person that picks him up once a month and limit yourself to back revs and traversing the map. You can still do well with him, he's not incompetent now...just really boring.

  • @EpicBigBrain said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1431159#Comment_1431159

    Wdym? I've seen what hes like and he doesnt seem worth it now

    There is no reason to try and go back and forth with people that have not spent a deal of time with billy previously. They just assume he has a higher skill cap now because that's what the devs said and you don't want to play him because he's not OP. I can tell you for certain if what is in the ptb goes live you will face less billy's than you do nurse anymore. He is an absolute bore to play now. Not fun in the least.

  • You can play huntress very well on console. Don't let that stop you from learning her. If you don't want to pick her up because she is probably next in line to get an unfun cool down added to her that is understandable though. Give Oni another shot. He is really fun. Watch scott junds youtube guide to oni.

  • The people most affected by this nerf are not "mindlessly spamming their chainsaw" My biggest issue with the rework is it does not increase the skill cap. There was a big difference in play between really good billys and average billys. This cool down is forcing all billys to play like the average ones. It is taking a killer that people have put many hours in to be able to pull off some really awesome downs and making them play like the rank 10 who plays billy once a week.

  • Yep, basically what @TheLastGreatStar said. Practice. Once you become proficient in hitting your shots it's game over. You can shut down loops by not even allowing them to get to them in the first place. It's always funny as the match progresses and you've hit some nice shots you don't even need to shoot your gun anymore. The survivors are so worried about it that all you have to do is throw your gun up a couple times in a chase and they start zig zagging like chickens without a head and you can easily catch up and m1 lol.

  • I'm not sure if he has any youtube videos because i've never looked. But if you want to see what a deathslinger can do you should check out a zubatlel stream. Dude is an insane player but watching him play slinger is a freaking thing of beauty and will show you quickly why there is no way he could be a 4.6m/s killer.

  • @ Antares2332 said:

    I don't understand people who say this is "very op". In my opinion it is excellent, because otherwise it would be another useless perk that no one would use. I love that they made him immune to flashlights. That's what that perk should be about. No more premades with toxic flashlights.

    I mean, it isn't much better than current lightborn. But neither version seem anything close to op to me. More like a wasted perk slot than anything else.

  • bubba for bbq

  • Either hag or huntress IMO are most balanced. Probably huntress due to her having a high skill cap to be good at.

  • Hag should be s tier. Myers and ghost b tier.

  • Well, this post was a giant fail.

  • If you lose multiple survivors because of a key...you were outplayed most of the match. There is no other way to look at it since gens need to be done before hatch even appears.

    Ebony mori is a cheap way for a killer to get 4ks by one hooking everyone.

  • @PureHostility said:

    Who cares about addons? Barely ever use them, unless using killers that quite frankly need them to have slightly better chances on reds and they barely ever are of higher quality than yellow.

    If you need them to make a killer to be viable in reds, killer sucks balls and need to be buffed/tweaked.

    If addons make killer broken, they need to be nerfed.

    Billy was too strong for how little downsides he had. Cooldown/overheat is completely fine. Adapt, skill floor is a bit deeper now (bad players will do worse), nothing more has changed.

    Cant wait for a spirit rework though, hate her as much as any forced in loot box mechanic in any game.

    Add ons can be fun ways to change a killers ability and have different synergy with different perks. Hag and some of her add ons come to mind, plague has good add ons etc. I don't use them a lot of times either but I do like to switch it up at times and don't enjoy the meme add ons they are making recently. I'm sure they will but i'm hoping they don't rework spirit. She is the most fun killer to go against imo as it makes you think outside the box.

  • Not sure what happened after plague was released but it's been pretty bad since then. Plague came with good perks, her addons are good. She is good without addons, just a good example of what a killer should be like. Not sure if the people that worked on her quit the company or what but it's been pretty bad since then. Like the devs really think "gives survivor blindness for 60 seconds" is worth a purple add on and I don't get it.

  • @PigMainClaudette said:

    I'm honestly surprised that more people aren't talking about how Bubba is no longer going to be an absolute meme.

    As for Hillbilly, this has been a long time coming. Add-ons may be a little too far, and as a Pig main, I know how much having terrible add-ons hurts, but Billy's base-kit is still better than Pig's if we're talking about raw kills.

    I agree completely. But i'm really hoping "better than pig" is not the benchmark the devs are trying to achieve with killer reworks lol.

  • I will agree that both reworks suck. Billy nerf is unwarranted but bubba...he is stupidly strong and annoying to go against now. Just down right not fun. Not sure how you feel he was nerfed.

  • Billy's chainsaw overheats in 15 seconds. Bubba can use his for 20 minutes. makes sense.

  • Yes. He is going to be the most annoying killer to go against now. You will basically have to hope there is a decent window near or you are going down. He is completely ridiculous now.

  • It's much worse than I thought it would be. If you don't use double overheat add-ons you have to play him like a rank 10 noob. I feel like crying.

  • Nobody said they gutted legion? You new bro?

  • Gotta say I was having a good laugh at all the dooms day people before the ptb even hit. But this is much, much worse than I thought. Without doubling overheat addons you have to play billy like a rank 10 chump now.

  • So who wants to be the survivor following me around holding their beam on me so i can move faster lol.

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