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@Mandy said:
I think we do pass that information on somewhat - with the survivor portraits showing that there's players needing assistance. How would you suggest communicating that in another way for example if you feel it's not clear as it is?
For me it is but it appears a lot of less inexperienced survivors are oblivious to that fact.
They know they are supposed to do gens and unhook, but they don't understand the concept of pressure. I believe many solo games have been ruined because these players were unaware of a few basic do-or-die situations.
Maybe it could be stressed-out in the tutorial?
After "how to unhook", maybe make the survivor do a gen, see 2 survivors getting downed and telling him that in these situations not saving a teammate is likely to lose the game?
@FilthyLegionMain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2873523#Comment_2873523
Interesting idea here, in an attempt to force the killer to hook you if you're being slugged but also to let survivors know you need help, gain the ability to scream every 30 seconds.
I believe the notification is clear. It's the pressing and dangerous nature of the situation that seems to escape them.
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@Voodoo_Thirsty said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2873128#Comment_2873128
Just because you're not represented, it doesn't mean you're being ignored, dismissed, discriminated, looked down on or any other adjective that people like to use in this situation.
If that's the case, 99+% of the racial minorities in the world are being made "invisible" by BHVR simply because they're not "represented" in DBD.
The answer is no, they're not.
Like how being gay is natural, you need to let things happen naturally too.
If DBD's writing team is not yet ready to implement a chapter that includes a gay character that could be deemed forced, then you need to give them time.
Just because they're not hurrying in putting a gay character doesn't mean that they're putting them under the rug.
First, it has always been natural. It's only that it has been shunned for a long while, mostly because of a certain family of religions.
Second, I really don't see how the sexual life of any of the characters is relevant?
They are there to suffer (both survivors and killers). Toons born to be hooked on rusted piece of metal and gush blood on once side, and bigger toons made to be tea-bagged and eat pallets of wood. (I didn't said the pain was proportional. ^_^;;;)
I usually leave these details to fan-fictions. At least they can chose whoever swings what way and not be disappointed by the "official" version.
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Cthulhu, or any of his "friends".
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Second game, as Nemesis : F* this #########. I'll try with a killer I'm good with afterward. This current setting would make me leave the game for several months.
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First game, as Nemesis, a killer I almost never use : awful game. After 3 gens I left the room and went for lunch.
In insight I didn't tunnel nor camp. A mistake I will not repeat.
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@Vlarian said:
As a nurse main, sadly I know why. Nurse is the strongest killer in the game hands down, and when you get pretty good with her, you basically 4k every match with ease. But, with the introduction of MMR, every win spikes your MMR to an extreme level, so alot of nurse mains that started getting good or are semi-decent with her get thrown into the sweatiest matches of their lives. So called, "High MMR". Here, you will see 4 dead hards, 4 iron wills, DS, BT, and of course CoH. So to many of these nurse players, they don't have fun and decide to go afk so that they can reduce their MMR to get less stressful matches. I know, because I see 4 dead hards every game, 4 DS's every game, every survivor has a minimum of 2k hours, etc.
You mean ... there are games with other perks than these? Surely you jest.
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@danielmaster87 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2866964#Comment_2866964
I recently learned that she insta-attacks like that if she presses the attack button while she's blinking. It still doesn't mean it's fair though. Because it's not like we waited too long to use Dead Hard either. By the time we realize she's blinked on us, it's already too late because her attack comes out before we can even knee jerk button press.
I'm pretty sure that if I press the attack button before getting out of the blink, nothing happens at all.
edit: how about that, I was wrong. (Maybe that's how they've fixed the age-old M1 bug)
I don't see any speed difference though. I should film both cases. Note that I don't think I'd use an attack that way because it would only work if my blink landed perfectly, which is far from being a given with unpredictable survivors.
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That being said, I usually "predict" the hit, for any killer. Dead Hard is too unreliable otherwise.
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@Mr_K said:
Look at the Switch version and ask yourself if its worth it.
The Steamdeck isn't based on a several-year old ARM architecture with a mobile GPU.
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@Martine1979 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2867178#Comment_2867178
Thank you. :) So far it has been amazing. Both scary moment, funny ones and at least one win. I main Chery (Heather) and Meg as main. Have not tried killers yet, but i will soon.
About trying killers, Trapper and Wraith would be two good ways to start (easy enough concepts). Nurse would be the worst (the most difficult to use, arguably the most powerful but with the lowest kill rate). For all the others, it's a matter of taste.
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@Martine1979 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2866542#Comment_2866542
Hi there. yeah i am old guy. I am born at that year, but i feel so young when i having fun when i enjoying my hobbies. :D
Don't say you are old, you are younger than me 😅
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@The_Krapper said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2866762#Comment_2866762
I'm not denying your ability with her I'm a nurse main and I know she can be countered I've faced SupaAlf in pubs probably about 5-6 times I escaped 2 times because he was trying to do the afk end game builds for his channel but the other times I lost and I'm not blaming the other survivors but as a team we weren't coordinated because it was solo whether they were skillful or not is another thing I don't know them so I won't judge, but against top tier nurse players only a strong team will survive you can't have throwing and uncoordinated plays or else you're gonna be playing glow worm simulator and alot of the players that play this game just aren't good and throw so unless you're a swf or a good group of solos against a good nurse it's a gg
I think I agree with everything you have just said. I believe that it is as it should be. Ideally there shouldn't be too much difference of strength between players in a game. The number of times I'm in the "wrong" match (whatever role, whatever strength imbalance) is staggering. That is however another issue. (Although I'm more annoyed when I verse weaker survivors than a weaker killer, which I find puzzling.)
One problem that presents itself after what you have just said is that a good killer (outside of the "top 3") has a hard time versing a good group of survivors (SWF or not). The top players may be able to make it work (playing harshly) but I'd be surprised if it was even 1% of the players.
When you look some of the games from CoconutRTS : he may be the best Huntress out there but some of his games are just painful. And I'm not even speaking of the cheaters.
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@The_Krapper said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2864148#Comment_2864148
If you're not a good survivor like you claim you've probably never encountered a true God nurse I promise you you'll change your tune about all that once you play against one, even the best nurse can be countered though its a skill vs skill situation, either you're really good with her or you're terrible there's almost no gray area with nurse and the majority of people who play her throw her away immediately because of the learning curve and having to keep up with information in every match about how each survivor runs , do they double back or hold w etc...
I'm a Nurse main, 19k blink attacks and counting (I've been called a "God" Nurse, which is something that as far as I'm concerned means "lucky" or "having a good day").
I'm regularly watching Supaalf play, among others.
I've watched the BOTB.
There are no "Gods". The concept only exists in the eyes of those who were vastly outmatched by an opponent they don't understand well enough. (Kind of the principle of a god when you think about it)
I know however what a very good Nurse looks like. They can be countered, it's just not as easy as, say, a simple M1 killer. Then again playing a Nurse isn't as easy as playing said M1 killer either. (And there we go back at her having the lowest kill rate from the roster and the cycle starts again ...).
I know I'll not be able to have long chases against every Nurse (especially the ones that are better than me) but how is that a problem? I don't expect to win against better players. I however expect to improve versing them, and I believe I do.
In my games, I get one over maybe ten Nurses able to put me in trouble, and usually only because the team sucks (solo queue, my teammates aren't playing anymore). The other Nurses get usually tea-bagged at the doors by the immature crowd I'm grouped with.
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@Huge_Bush said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2866535#Comment_2866535
No no, no abomination. I just want a nice sparkly purple pants suit with a stylish jacket and a nice Victorian puffy ball gown.
I had to google it to see what it looks like xD
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@fondelli said:
you can easily learn by reading random posts on the forums that fun = easy and boring = not easy
if you're playing nurse you already lost the game
I've heard that some the most recent generation(s) were raised on a "everybody gets a prize" philosophy. (Which I find horribly destructive : way to destroy the drive to be the best at something in a child)
I wonder if this is a direct consequence of this.
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Run you fool, save your sanity while you still can.
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I meant ...
Welcome to Hell.
I can't help but wonder if 1979 is your year ...
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You don't have to worry. (Although, as it has already been pointed out, it's easier to find the glyph simply hooking survivors)
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@Huge_Bush said:
I have 142k shards that are just collecting dust because the devs refuse to give Claudette the clothes I deserve.
The way this is written, I envisioned some abomination.
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@humanbeing1704 said:
Old feng was significantly better
Maybe that's their fix for "face" camping 😂
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DH is annoying an OP but don't make that stop you using it. It should change "soon" anyway.
It's not like if it was the old OoO (that would ensure your death given how much it was hated).
On another hand, better start getting used to Sprint Burst.
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@danielmaster87 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2863908#Comment_2863908
To be fair, Nurse seems to instantly down sometimes, like you have to Dead Hard preemptively or else she downs you, because there's zero time to react.
Maybe it's a latency issue (survivor, killer, servers). Survivors are meant to see the Nurse "land" before the killer does.
I think preemptively doing a Dead Hard would only work with the second blink and if the Nurse didn't anticipate it.
Even without watching her (which you should do), you can still hear her charging a blink. This allows you to guess her maximum distance (but not minimum as she can work around that). Once the she uses that blink, you can know when she'll "land" (it's a constant, even if she blinks down) and thus you'll be able to Dead Hard right on time. No time reaction needed.
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@MaTtRoSiTy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2865047#Comment_2865047
Huh?
You do understand that you are meant to waste the killers time, not be able to completely avoid them even downing you at all right?
There are plenty of counters to Nurse but most survivors seem to be clueless and don't even attempt to adjust their play style.
A weird problem I had when I was playing a lot of Nurse is that I got so used to survivors being really bad that I would get sloppy and lazy and my skill level dropped. So when I did face survivors who were even slightly decent I struggled as it can be easy to get used to everyone being hopeless.
I guarantee these hopeless survivors are the same ones who come to forums to complain about Nurse. Not saying that a truly good Nurse isn't really difficult to go against in public matches either... but the reality is most Nurses aren't that good, it is just that most survivors are REALLY bad.
Have you noticed how many are arguing there are "god Nurses" and that's bad, but once it's pointed-out that good survivors (not "gods", merely good) hold their own, it appears to be an invalid argument? Anyone got the definition of double-standard somewhere?
And everyone saying she has no counters and discards "every" defense of survivors really is saying he doesn't know how to play properly yet.
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From the top of my head:
- Make boons destroyable,
- make DH less jack-of-all-trades,
- disable MMR,
- remove iridescent hatchets,
- give Trapper all his traps from the start,
- make it so lagging isn't advantageous.
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It happens. Some nights, with the Nurse, I'm just off. Wrong blink range, wrong predictions, wrong everything.
And it starts getting on my nerves it gets worse of course. The best thing to do is to stop playing and rest.
The next day everything goes back to normal.
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@Tr1nity said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2864148#Comment_2864148
So basically survivors should be able to live without any defense?
Also bring up kill rates, let’s nerf pig again.
Without any defense? They have plenty that are working way better against her than against other killers.
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@Tr1nity said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2864079#Comment_2864079
So basically only the best survivors can deal with her?
No, only the ones who have put the effort to learn something else than the hold-W, DH, pallet sequence.
I'm not a very good survivor and I hold my own against her. Better than against other killers actually. Because I know how she works and her weaknesses.
The fact she has, globally, the lowest kill rate of all killers also says something about that.
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@Munqaxus said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2864059#Comment_2864059
I'm sure it's the level of play SBMMR has put us in. Maybe you're lower or maybe I'm lower but in the level I'm in, Nurse games don't exist for me anymore. It's DCs or suicides on hook.
There has only been 1 Nurse game that I saw survivors play all the way through and it was really really bad Nurse. I would say that was at least 2 months ago.
I might just keep track of it because I'm curious now.
I wouldn't think the high MMR games where players know how to play DC.
A trick to guess how close you are to the MMR (soft) ceiling is to see how many cheaters to encounter.
In my opinion, and it's worth what it's worth, DCs are from average survivors who have the wrong expectations. They've seen some streamer do something. The Dunning-Kruger effect kicks-in. They expect to do as well as Mr "famous" and fail, miserably. They usually resolve that cognitive dissonance by disconnecting.
I rarely see that in hard games and never in the easy ones. It's really in decent but not too strong games that it may happen. (Again, my experience)
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@Munqaxus said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2864025#Comment_2864025
When I go against Nurse and my teammates disconnect or suicide on hook, you realize that Nurse really doesn't exist in a game sense anymore.
You can't really play Nurse when no one else is willing to play against her. I don't think I've had an actual game against Nurse in a long-long time.
I rarely get wet cloth against me as Nurse. Some groups are so strong I can barely get one kill (but they really know all the counters).
Even the beginners do not behave like this. No, rest assured that the snowflakes are a minority in this game.
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Has been some famous streamer making some video about some similar build/strat? I've just got another (failed) attempt today xD
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@Heartbound said:
The GOD Nurse can't be beat...but let's be honest that Nurse is highly, highly uncommon and Nurse slashers themselves are a rare breed nowadays despite her legacy and being a free killer.
On one hand there's a metric ton of slashers today and memorizing all of their eccentricities isn't very realistic if you're a casual player, but on the other hand Nurse is free and most players can instantly grasp she's the one that can go through walls/floors and has a default aura perk that lets her know if you're standing still and healing.
It's another person piloting that pac man ghost. Get in their head.
If you really want to face Nurse take a rift challenge that requires you to drop pallets or get into a chase with the killer. That always works for me.
I don't think there is such thing as a "god" Nurse. I've been called that often and all it is to me is "lucky streak" or "good day". Even among the best "public" Nurses you can see the mistakes and the good and bad days.
@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2863981#Comment_2863981
Yeah, the matchmaking is another thing. Especially in solo queue. Most players struggle with the game sense side of things even if they're ok in chase.
It makes sense when you consider most survivor guides focus solely on the chase aspect and nothing else. And I get that. A 10 minute video on positioning and macro level survivor play isn't going to generate clicks. But it's often what wins and loses games.
Yes, and it's not like seeing a guide will help that much. I guess as survivor or killer, I'm often getting matched with beginners. (Not always, thankfully)
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@[Deleted User] said:
There's a strong overlap between players who give up against Nurse and players who do the worst possible things in chase against Nurse. The animation locks especially kill me. What is a window going to do?
I get the frustration of not knowing what to do, but that doesn't mean there's nothing a player *can* do. Players get significantly less practice against good Nurses because the skills don't translate. The closest thing would be Huntress and that's a stretch.
Going against Spirit has some commonalities, the stealth part at the very least.
Which reminds me : I'm still in my survivor games (too early for killer) and I'm getting abysmal level survivors with me (I think I'm average). We were against a Spirit. She was not able to even hook me once (and, doing a rift, I took her attention quite often). The game was as good as won. I took a hit to get the aggro while the 3 others were on a gen. They finished it but somehow managed to not even start opening a door. The killer had NOED (expected) and it ended up as a 3K.
Or right now against a poor Pig (camping, but I can't blame her : Mother's Dwelling, 3 gens done and 2 hooks). NOED again, and my teammates were managing to sandbag and position themselves in the worst possible spots every single time. Last play of the game: two down, one Meg that I see going towards the down so I'm getting the attention of the killer for a few seconds. Surely it was enough for an unhook and maybe even a heal. Aaand I see her crouching under bush a few meters from me T_T. The dream team xD.
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I don't see anything about that in the patch notes.
They've fixed the blink charge bug and the charge time bug, that's it.
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@MikaelaWantsYourBoon said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2863783#Comment_2863783
Are you Nurse main? You would know why. I love use Lethal on her. Lethal, Starstruck and Agitation together. So if i see 2 or more survivors together, i know where i should go. It gives me great early game pressure. But on other killers, i would never use.
I am a Nurse main. I've never tried Lethal but it feels it would make me win only about 30 seconds (I may be wrong though). Other perks give me way more. Once the first hook is made, the show can start.
@SkeletalElite said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2863783#Comment_2863783
Its because they have the kind of mobility to start a chase basically as soon as those 9 seconds run out which translates into good pressure because a fast chase start turns into a faster down which is less time for generators to get done and youll also always be on a chase with the best survivor to start chasing at first. You're not gonna chase the dude who's at the strongest tile on the map first you're gonna go to the dude that spawns in an area that spawns pallets sparsely.
Corrupt is still probably better, but lethal is definately not a bad perk on them by any means. You'd also be surprised how often you get a literal free hit or down on someone who is AFK for the first ~10 seconds.
I'm not really interested in hitting AFKs.
I may try later today, just to compare.
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Well, duh ^_^.
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I'm not sure why Lethal has that many voices for Nurse and Blight.
You gain a few seconds to find them and get their distribution, but after that it's a wasted slot IMHO.
I'd rather have another detection perk or Starstruck instead.
What am I missing?
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@Exxodus21 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/315348/bully-critical-fail-xd
Idk why but Dwelf and bald Dwight have a 90% greater chance of being toxic.
True.
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@shalo said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fRrqUpKg3k
Be nice to new players and you can have cute interactions like this.
As to why a 2 gamer is matched with a devotion 8 Killer, only the BHVR god knows.
The thing is, if you do that you'll get more and more players that are way too inexperienced for you.
The best thing to do, IMHO as killer is to kill 3 when they got enough time to rake some bloodpoints (hooks saves, heals, gens) and let one took hatch. As survivor is to leave (because you cannot guarantee he will not kill you).
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@mouse0270 said:
Are you ######### kidding me BHVR? I can't say twitch, down, killer, and a whole slew of other stupid things directly related to your game... But this ######### can tell me to end my life?
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/MK3TOBEUKZEX/image.png
To be clear, I don't give two shits this guy said this, its end game BS chat, been playing COD since the early 20s. I've heard so much worse... What pisses me off is that for some reason I get censored on all of this stupid ######### and this guy gets to tell people to end their lives? HOW THE ######### IS YOUR CHAT CENSORSHIP THIS BROKEN
First: It's Easter?
Second: even if you are unaffected by this kind of speech, you should have reported them. There are people out there that can really be hurt by this. They don't need to be exposed to that kind of creatures.
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I've not seen that killer since day 2.
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Winning?
But if the killer let everybody almost bleed out doing nothing, there is no point.
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@Piruluk said:
Remember when challenges was designed to throw the game as survivor, its one of the reason why solo so bad.
Back on topic, I agree but the whole game is excessive grinding
Throw the game, final stop.
Not all of them but most of them require to play in a way that ruins your chances, as any role.
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@danielmaster87 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2861341#Comment_2861341
What bugs does Hag have? I played her and didn't notice anything.
Strange.
_ The camera of survivors doesn't always turn toward the trap (and no, I'm not speaking about them taking the trap on a tangent).
_ The teleportation lunge doesn't work properly (if at all)
The best Hag out there has also got the issue so I know it's not just me.
The bugs are already reported.
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@Garboface said:
Two of my favorite killers are hag (I don't traps hooks) and nurse. They don't struggle but you're right, some of the other killers are heavily reliant on survivor mishaps on some of these maps...or they tunnel like a mother and end up getting killers nerfed more.
Are you still playing Hag despite her current bugs?
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This is the best advice to know how to verse a killer.
Play it until you get stomped. Learn what your opponents are doing. Be better against that killer.
(This is of course also true to learn how to verse survivors properly.)
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The most recent discussion about this is:
@GamerEzra said:
Okay I feel like I have to post something about this. I always hated Nurse and I felt like it was time to start playing her myself, I have 2.5K hours in DBD. I'm still learning but I have to say that I have a lot of fun playing her. I started practicing with her and I'm already getting 4K after 4K with her. I'm still using the Plaid Flannel Addon because I'm still learning, but out of 30 games i had 3 games without a 4K. I played against some really good survivors and had some really close games. I'm still not great when going against her but I feel like I'm already getting a lot better since I play her myself.
I really want to play without the Plaid Flannel addon but I feel like I'm not ready to do that yet. That's why I have a question: Do I need to stop using this addon or should I keep using it until I feel like I'm ready to play without?
I'm affraid if i keep using it I can't ever play without it anymore. Does anyone have tips how to do this? Please let me know what I should do! Thank you!🤗
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"Unfun": see "boring".
"Boring": see "too strong for me".
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@Bombie said:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/CTBE1IP5QN6G/happy-dog.gif
booba + insidious + camp = gud
I love the dog. 😍
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@Araphex said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2861014#Comment_2861014
Killer was busy chasing someone else. But saw the unhook and came our way instead. Like I said, player blocked me between them and the killer because they went foe the same pallet I was going for to get away. Other survivor I unhooked just blocked me in front of the pallet. Not my fault they didn't take a protection hit or let me get the pallet. But you all keep telling me I'm not a skilled player, so I'll just not unhook survivors. Caee solved.
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/N2ACVR0IA67R/screenshot-20220321-143542-xbox.jpg
Do you know how many times I see that from the red light at your back?
It's both hilarious and sad.
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@Garboface said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2860799#Comment_2860799
Verified as truth. PC survivors decimate us ps4 nurses. They move in a way that makes it impossible to hit them.
Good console players are very difficult to hit as a Nurse. Between the high ping and the broken camera turns, they are more challenging than PC players. I've recorded a few games where they appear move faster than a Dead-Hard (120ms ping).
Learn to do that and you will have less problems against Nurse.
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There has been a serie of "tier" posts recentently.
One was about the fun versing killers. The opinions varied a lot.
There :
@GannTM said:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/414NKQ2F435I/image.png
Yesterday, I made a tier list based off how much fun I have to play as each killer, and now I am doing the opposite as this tier list is based off how much fun they are to play against. Now, I did make another one of these a few months back as it looked a little more different than this, so my views have changed a little over time.
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@GoshJosh said:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/NJPXK19699MU/nurse-op-lol.jpg
Yes, Nurse is very busted on PC, please send help. /s This match was like half an hour ago by the way, solo queue. Map was Temple of Purgation if that matters to you.
Temple of Purgation isn't even a bad map for Nurse. Beside she had the range add-on (which makes that map easier) and the build isn't bad at all.
Going against 3 dead-hards and I'm assuming you are pretty skilled (looking at the sprint burst) and given the devotion I'm assuming 2.5k to 3k hours. So 1k is a good score.
Hey, I think I've versed at least 2 of the players in this list.