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@NuclearBurrito2 said:
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@Poweas said:
@Delfador said:
@Poweas said:
Honestly, I'll just say I strongly disagree with you. With everything you said. If I did all 5 of the gens and died that's a win for me. Most people in this community would agree with what I say which is that if you pip, that's a win. Or at least 3 man, that's a win also.
I agree with you wholeheartedly.
As a survivor
If I can save a teammate but give my own life for him/her, it is a win for me.
If I score 20k or more, It is a win for me whether I die or not.
If I run the killer for 3-5 gens, it is a win for me whether I die or not.
If I did something that won the game for my fellow survivors, be it baiting the killer, completing all the gens etc. it is still a win for me whether I die or not.If I escape through the hatch, I don't consider myself as the winner and I don't think that many survivors consider themselves successful as well.
Hatch is just a free escape mechanic and every single survivor knows it.
Hell, even when I escape through the exit gates, sometimes I don't feel like I won the game.
It is more complicated than 'escape is always win' and 'only the 4k is win for killers'.
Yeah I highly doubt that person understands the game well. They might be fairly new if they see it that way.
On one hand I am fairly new. On the other hand I doubt more experience would change my mind as my argument is in the form of a definition rather than a logic based line of reasoning that could potentially be falsified.
Trust me you'll realise it soon.
Realize what
That a 4k or an escape isn't a win. And different things can be counted as a win too.
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@switch said:
@Poweas said:
@switch said:
@Poweas said:
@switch said:
Opinion or not Clown aint even colse to top tier( i assume you put him first in the mid just because you think he is close to top)
Decent list a bit away from an actually GOOD tier list ( how is clown over huntress only you know the answer)He's better at stopping lops. Although I'll admit I've changed my mind a long time ago about Huntress I think she's at the top of mid tier now. This tierlist is kind of outdated.
Clown is good at destroying pallets, but as pallets are everywhere on the map you can destroy him with only pallets.
Dont even try to loop the clown just run pallet to pallet to pallet ...yes he will destroy most of the pallets by the time he did that your team should do 4-5 gens easily.
Clown is not even mid, unless survivors are bad clown will get nothing down.
I'm almost tempted to say that he is the worst killer in the game.Clown isn't the worst. Trust me with that one.
And whos the worst ? Freddy ?, Legion?
Trust me you dont wanna go against my freedy, if you dont believe me watch some of hexy's stream VOD he is using the same build as me search a few games where he plays as freedy, he is probably one of the best freedys out there.
Legion, i would say is 50/50 he is OP at tunneling one individual but the worst at killing 4 without mixtape.
he is a mix bag...
Trust me i can say with confidence clown is the worst killer in the game.It's Freddy. Imo. I'm not changing my opinion.
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@switch said:
@Poweas said:
@switch said:
Opinion or not Clown aint even colse to top tier( i assume you put him first in the mid just because you think he is close to top)
Decent list a bit away from an actually GOOD tier list ( how is clown over huntress only you know the answer)He's better at stopping lops. Although I'll admit I've changed my mind a long time ago about Huntress I think she's at the top of mid tier now. This tierlist is kind of outdated.
Clown is good at destroying pallets, but as pallets are everywhere on the map you can destroy him with only pallets.
Dont even try to loop the clown just run pallet to pallet to pallet ...yes he will destroy most of the pallets by the time he did that your team should do 4-5 gens easily.
Clown is not even mid, unless survivors are bad clown will get nothing down.
I'm almost tempted to say that he is the worst killer in the game.Clown isn't the worst. Trust me with that one.
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@NuclearBurrito2 said:
@Poweas said:
@Delfador said:
@Poweas said:
Honestly, I'll just say I strongly disagree with you. With everything you said. If I did all 5 of the gens and died that's a win for me. Most people in this community would agree with what I say which is that if you pip, that's a win. Or at least 3 man, that's a win also.
I agree with you wholeheartedly.
As a survivor
If I can save a teammate but give my own life for him/her, it is a win for me.
If I score 20k or more, It is a win for me whether I die or not.
If I run the killer for 3-5 gens, it is a win for me whether I die or not.
If I did something that won the game for my fellow survivors, be it baiting the killer, completing all the gens etc. it is still a win for me whether I die or not.If I escape through the hatch, I don't consider myself as the winner and I don't think that many survivors consider themselves successful as well.
Hatch is just a free escape mechanic and every single survivor knows it.
Hell, even when I escape through the exit gates, sometimes I don't feel like I won the game.
It is more complicated than 'escape is always win' and 'only the 4k is win for killers'.
Yeah I highly doubt that person understands the game well. They might be fairly new if they see it that way.
On one hand I am fairly new. On the other hand I doubt more experience would change my mind as my argument is in the form of a definition rather than a logic based line of reasoning that could potentially be falsified.
Trust me you'll realise it soon.
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@switch said:
Opinion or not Clown aint even colse to top tier( i assume you put him first in the mid just because you think he is close to top)
Decent list a bit away from an actually GOOD tier list ( how is clown over huntress only you know the answer)He's better at stopping lops. Although I'll admit I've changed my mind a long time ago about Huntress I think she's at the top of mid tier now. This tierlist is kind of outdated.
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@OGlilSPOOK20 said:
I would move Spirit from 4 to 2. I would rather face a Billy or Hag any day over a really good Spirit with a good build. For Doc to actually be good (even though he is one of the most annoying killers to play against) they just need to buff the range of his shock... That thing is super small and easy to dodge. He's pretty much add-on dependent to be a viable killer.Yes. That exactly except the Spirit thing. Trust me, I've seen the power of an efficient Billy and Hag and they're dominant as hell.
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@DCh4rlie said:
Buffing Brutal Strength would put us back to the time before the pallet breaking "buff" when BS was simply a must have in your perk setup.
IMO it's fine in its current state: Not a must have, but makes things feel much better and "smoother" (I'm still using BS).And IMO that's how perks are supposed to be: Helping you out while you can also just switch up perks to suit your playstyle. Right now, I think that there are too many perks that are more of a "must have" rather than a optional/additional helper.
As an example, take exhaustion perks (survivor side) or Ruin (killer side). - Even though I use neither of them, I can see while so many players have them in their loadouts.Regarding your two other ideas, I think those buffs would fit better with Overcharge rather than BS. They sound good, but I believe Overcharge needs buffs more urgently than BS and if you ask me, BS should stay more of a "hunting perk" rather than a "gen stopper".
No it wouldn't be a 'must have' because the base speed is fine. Brutal strength would just be a good way for killers who need to break pallets. It'd make it a viable and amazing perk. I want this buff. Although honestly, I think it should bbe 40% but that might be broken.
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@Kebek said:
I know it's your opinon but I still think this is closer to reality. Ofc this tier list is based on not using addons.S: Nurse Hillbilly
A: Spirit Hag Huntress Clown
B: Michael Leatherface Legion Pig
C: Trapper Doctor Wraith
FreddyI never understoond why people think Myers is high tier. Yeah he's fun to play with/against and has quite usefull power but overall he has really slow start, wastes a lot of time on stalking and has no anti loop tools or mobility. Even when I love playing Michael I still consider him mid tier since good survivors should never allow him to snowball.
Disagree with Hag not being S. Disagree with Leatherface being so high, Wraith should be in that spot imo. Apart from that, decent tierlist.
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@Delfador said:
@Poweas said:
Honestly, I'll just say I strongly disagree with you. With everything you said. If I did all 5 of the gens and died that's a win for me. Most people in this community would agree with what I say which is that if you pip, that's a win. Or at least 3 man, that's a win also.
I agree with you wholeheartedly.
As a survivor
If I can save a teammate but give my own life for him/her, it is a win for me.
If I score 20k or more, It is a win for me whether I die or not.
If I run the killer for 3-5 gens, it is a win for me whether I die or not.
If I did something that won the game for my fellow survivors, be it baiting the killer, completing all the gens etc. it is still a win for me whether I die or not.If I escape through the hatch, I don't consider myself as the winner and I don't think that many survivors consider themselves successful as well.
Hatch is just a free escape mechanic and every single survivor knows it.
Hell, even when I escape through the exit gates, sometimes I don't feel like I won the game.
It is more complicated than 'escape is always win' and 'only the 4k is win for killers'.
Yeah I highly doubt that person understands the game well. They might be fairly new if they see it that way.
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He's amazing. Huntress is overrated.
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@BACKSTABBER said:
here#########
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@NuclearBurrito2 said:
@Poweas said:
@NuclearBurrito2 said:
@Poweas said:
@NuclearBurrito2 said:
@Poweas said:
Fair enough. Maybe she didn't want me getting hatch because she was an entitled little crap, last guy did get it btw.By entitled little crap you mean someone who wants to win right? As in a normal player. Wanting to achieve your wincon is hardly greedy and I hate it when people say it is
That's the thing, she was winning. She was in a great spot. Like I mentioned, my team was absolute garbage they were getting downed in seconds to her and she barely used her power. I know for a fact if she wanted to let me go rather then tunnel, she'd have definitely got the other 2. Seeing how easily she got the 4th guy eliminated. No way did she want to win, she was salty because she got outplayed. If I had a good team, all the gens would have been done and I'd have got Adrenaline and escaped.
I don't even know what they were doing but it definitetly wasn't something relevant to us 3 escaping.
Normally I'm ok with tunnelling but it happens so often now it's annoying.
No I mean what you were saying about the hatch. In order to win as killer you either need to somehow be so fast that not even 2 gens are done, or you need to deal with the hatch at some point.
2 kills is a draw. 3 kills is a win. 4 man is a massive win.
Your wincon as a killer is to eliminate the survivors. Thus:
2 kills is a loss. 3 kills is still a loss. 4 kills is a win. There is no draw as there is no between kill everyone and not kill everyone. For a survivor an escape is a win always.
Escape through the hatch? Win
Escape through a gate while crawling after doing literally nothing the entire game and being downed as soon as mechanically possible while your teammates all die to NOED? Still a win.
Do all 5 gens, save everyone and then die? You lostDo you pip in all of the winning situations I just listed? No. Do you not pip in the losing situation? No. Piping is not your wincon so that isn't relevant.
Honestly, I'll just say I strongly disagree with you. With everything you said. If I did all 5 of the gens and died that's a win for me. Most people in this community would agree with what I say which is that if you pip, that's a win. Or at least 3 man, that's a win also.
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@NuclearBurrito2 said:
Freddy tier:
- Legion - He's not bad, he's actually mid tier but he deserves a rework. He has no counterplay, takes almost no skill and annoying as hell. Low skill cap/Low reward.
Cancer or not this is a tier list, not a fun list. If he is mid tier then he should be ranked as such regardless of how much he needs a rework. Freddy needs his rework BECAUSE he is trash, that's why he deserves the bottom spot. Legion needs his changes for reasons not related to balance (also some balance problems but that's every killer besides the top tiers so yeah).
I've changed my mind on that spot anyways. He's mid tier.
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@PhantomMask20763 said:
Rattman said:@Yamaoka said:
Let's start with: WHISPERS
I'd say, Wraith and Pig. Whispers are meant for locating survivors near gens. When you see it triggered - check the nearest gen. Pig can get free grab on survivor, while Wraith can move faster and get to place sooner.
Also, quick hint on whispers: it triggers on hooked survivors.
My perk: Beast of prey. Never understand, why you need it in the first place.
It can be good for mindgames and Freddy can benefit from it a little since most of his mindgames come from the red stain and it might help him out when he gets bloodlust
My perk: Remember Me
It can be good for end game pressure and pretty much overpowered with Noed. Amazing in endgame builds and can be great for that extra kill.
My perk: Brutal Strength.
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Clown: Finger licking (literally) stew.
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Spirit. She's not the main killer like Trapper but really noticeable.
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Leave toxicity as it is.
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Spirit is constantly in the libraries, reading family books on her bloodline and sometimes talks to Adam, another person who is in the library.
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@NuclearBurrito2 said:
@Poweas said:
@NuclearBurrito2 said:
@Poweas said:
Fair enough. Maybe she didn't want me getting hatch because she was an entitled little crap, last guy did get it btw.By entitled little crap you mean someone who wants to win right? As in a normal player. Wanting to achieve your wincon is hardly greedy and I hate it when people say it is
That's the thing, she was winning. She was in a great spot. Like I mentioned, my team was absolute garbage they were getting downed in seconds to her and she barely used her power. I know for a fact if she wanted to let me go rather then tunnel, she'd have definitely got the other 2. Seeing how easily she got the 4th guy eliminated. No way did she want to win, she was salty because she got outplayed. If I had a good team, all the gens would have been done and I'd have got Adrenaline and escaped.
I don't even know what they were doing but it definitetly wasn't something relevant to us 3 escaping.
Normally I'm ok with tunnelling but it happens so often now it's annoying.
No I mean what you were saying about the hatch. In order to win as killer you either need to somehow be so fast that not even 2 gens are done, or you need to deal with the hatch at some point.
2 kills is a draw. 3 kills is a win. 4 man is a massive win.
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A long time ago, my brother was playing with me and I saw him loop a rank 1 Billy like it was nothing despite not playing for 6 months. That was awesome. The Billy gave up and farmed.
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@ItsYourBoyGuzma said:
AlwaysInAGoodShape said:@Free_Hugs said:
This is a lot of effort for a troll post
I don't think you've read it if you think it's a troll post.
Hes just saying you want to basically be untouchable when it comes to this leader+vault combo.
It would probably cause more headache for killers if this even stacked.To be real OP are you new to DBD?
Because a lot of your posts are questionable or make most people thinking your trollingNo most people do not think the OP is trolling. There's a few people who do but most of the OP's posts are good and enjoyable.
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I'm glad you're back @AlwaysInAGoodShape I agree with the idea of Leader affecting vaulting. Wouldn't do much for me since I personally run resilience but it'd be neat.
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@Free_Hugs said:
This is a lot of effort for a troll postNo it's not a troll post. The poster almost never trolls.
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Hell yeah. I also love the dedication you've put into writing this. It shows.
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@ReikoMori said:
@Poweas said:
@ReikoMori said:
You're gonna get tunneled if you're able to run the killer for 3mins straight. If your team was on their jobs they would have been done with almost all the gens. Since they weren't she couldn't afford letting you get too far ahead of her again. I'd have made the same call personally, but I wouldn't have blown the first three minutes chasing you either. Being a P3 Claudette, it doesn't matter what you wear you're gonna be a priority target. Claudette is hard to find on most maps. If you can get rid of her and she's clearly the skilled one on the team then you're gonna see a lot of killers either tunnel till death or just straight leave you for last.I wear bright clothes. She could have left me for last. And ignored me. It's not like my team would have got a gen regardless of whether she did or didn't. They didn't deserve that fcking hatch either. They all played like trash. Any other team would have had me all the gens done and straight out of those gates.
You've got that wrong. The game doesn't care about who deserves what and if you're relying on your team to get you out then you're approaching things the wrong way. Getting tunneled sucks, but can you say that you used all the options you had at your disposal to avoid being in line of sight? Did you put is gen jockey time or did you get stuck in chases? The team being trash is its own problem, but plenty of people survive while dealing with tunnels, camps, moonbrain teammates, etc. You had a bad game and that blows, but you're responsible for your performance. If you can keep a killer active for 3mins then you can lose them just as easily and do gens.
I did. Although, on my last chase I chose to ignore a pallet because of Balanced and thought I could circle the map around. That was my 1 major messup. It wasn't even a bad game really, I got fun chases BUT I just don't understand why this is so common with me she could have won either way looking at how rubbish my team was. Also, I did lose her once because of Iron will and yes I did jump on a gen. A teammate with bond led her to me when in chase. .-.
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@Lagoni said:
@Poweas said:
For the love of god, can someone explain to me why I'm always getting tunnelled? There was a Spirit who wouldn't even use her power much, I ran her for about 3 minutes with my teammates doing nothing relevant and getting 1 gen. And the second I'm unhooked, she always went for me. Left everyone else. There were 3 gens and it was 3 people alive. She already killed one. The other 2 died in seconds to her. So why did she tunnel me?! My other 2 chases were about 30 seconds. She claimed I ran into her arms even tho I clearly went the other way. .-.I mainly play killer, and i generally just bonk people i run into (unless I'm in a really strong position).
When i play survivor, I hate being tunneled / camped for obvious reasons, but what i try to do, is very simple. Just say "GG" at the end of the game, and move on. If you get angry every time someone makes an "unfair" play, then you will be angry almost every game.I normally do say GG. Even if I get rekt as survivor or stomped as killer. Not going to say GG to an equally salty player who plays in a scummy way.
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@RoKrueger said:
Poweas said:@RoKrueger said:
next time don´t get caught. That way yu wont get tunneled. It works everytime
You're just trolling. Don't comment if you don't have a good thing to say.
It may not be "good" by your standards but it is true :chuffed:
How do I hide from someone who stayed 32m near the hook, kept me in her LOS and made sure she could track me.
One thing I did manage, is losing her once. Cause of iron will. But she did find me later on.
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Letting the last guy do a gen as Hag but then trapping all around them so when they complete it, they'll be shook and they'll see them in dying state.
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@ReikoMori said:
You're gonna get tunneled if you're able to run the killer for 3mins straight. If your team was on their jobs they would have been done with almost all the gens. Since they weren't she couldn't afford letting you get too far ahead of her again. I'd have made the same call personally, but I wouldn't have blown the first three minutes chasing you either. Being a P3 Claudette, it doesn't matter what you wear you're gonna be a priority target. Claudette is hard to find on most maps. If you can get rid of her and she's clearly the skilled one on the team then you're gonna see a lot of killers either tunnel till death or just straight leave you for last.I wear bright clothes. She could have left me for last. And ignored me. It's not like my team would have got a gen regardless of whether she did or didn't. They didn't deserve that fcking hatch either. They all played like trash. Any other team would have had me all the gens done and straight out of those gates.
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@gamerscrybecauseofme said:
AlwaysInAGoodShape said:2:10 a 96.25% movement-speed killer walks up to you and hits you. This is the only time you got hit.
There might be an issue, but I'm not sure how this video exemplifies it.
(By the title I'm assuming it's about the nurse, not the DC)
I walked straight into her, mainly because I fear no nurse.
Now, I know you guys struggle with certain nuances of expression, but these OP nurse videos, are me proving how OP the nurse is not. It's just awful survivors drinking the OP nurse KOOL-AID.
Honestly. I know she's OP because I've experienced her myself. She's broken. Stop crying, your on console it's harder for Nurse on there. Way harder. I used to be a console player myself. Also she was garbage.
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@NuclearBurrito2 said:
@Poweas said:
Fair enough. Maybe she didn't want me getting hatch because she was an entitled little crap, last guy did get it btw.By entitled little crap you mean someone who wants to win right? As in a normal player. Wanting to achieve your wincon is hardly greedy and I hate it when people say it is
That's the thing, she was winning. She was in a great spot. Like I mentioned, my team was absolute garbage they were getting downed in seconds to her and she barely used her power. I know for a fact if she wanted to let me go rather then tunnel, she'd have definitely got the other 2. Seeing how easily she got the 4th guy eliminated. No way did she want to win, she was salty because she got outplayed. If I had a good team, all the gens would have been done and I'd have got Adrenaline and escaped.
I don't even know what they were doing but it definitetly wasn't something relevant to us 3 escaping.
Normally I'm ok with tunnelling but it happens so often now it's annoying.
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mike 100%
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- Adrenaline
- Balanced landing
- Sprint burst (it's far too versatile and counters so much powers that dead hard is nothing in comparison)
- Dead hard (This is a very solid perk, overrated as hell but nowhere near as good as the latter)
- Lithe (Pretty much the Deja vu of exhaustion perks.)
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@Giddawid said:
@Poweas I have been the recipient of situations like this and I can understand how frustrating it can be sometimes, when you have done nothing to deserve the "extra attention" from the killer. I look at it as a compliment - I was so much of a threat to them that they wanted to remove me from the game as quickly as they could. I might play the game after a little more cautiously at the beginning because of it. I hope the rest of your games have gone more smoothly
yeah they were great. Ty I guess I'll take it as a good thing.
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@RoKrueger said:
next time don´t get caught. That way yu wont get tunneled. It works everytimeYou're just trolling. Don't comment if you don't have a good thing to say.
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@twistedmonkey said:
Poweas said:@twistedmonkey said:
The 3 minute chase to start with is the most obvious reason, if you could do that again that should be other 3 gens done for competent survivors so getting you out the game quick gives more time for the easier prey.
No. She claimed she wasn't tunnelling me. And my team were trash. They were NOT competent. 1 gen in that 1st chase is stupid and rank 20 like. And they got downed to her in seconds. Trust me you're completely off.
I never said your team was competent i simply stated a competent team could, most killers don't know who is and who isn't competent they sometimes want the one they think can cause them to lose the game out of it quickly if possible.
They obviously wanted you out the game so unless they remembered you from another game how you played compared to the others in this one seems the most logical reason don't you think?
yes.
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@Boss said:
Just imagine how attractive you must be for that to happen.
A blessing and a curse...I'm this
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@fcc2014 said:
@Poweas said:
For the love of god, can someone explain to me why I'm always getting tunnelled? There was a Spirit who wouldn't even use her power much, I ran her for about 3 minutes with my teammates doing nothing relevant and getting 1 gen. And the second I'm unhooked, she always went for me. Left everyone else. There were 3 gens and it was 3 people alive. She already killed one. The other 2 died in seconds to her. So why did she tunnel me?! My other 2 chases were about 30 seconds. She claimed I ran into her arms even tho I clearly went the other way. .-.You were the harder out. It took her longer to end the chase with you and since the others did nothing maybe she assumed you were the best player in the lobby. If she could take you out it increased her odds of a 4k? Just guessing.
Fair enough. Maybe she didn't want me getting hatch because she was an entitled little crap, last guy did get it btw.
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@Bongbingbing said:
There could be a lot reasons to tunnel someone. You could have been a good survivor making you a bigger target and one she wanted to get out of the game quickly. or Could be you are already injured of hook and in her sight so it only makes sense to go for you than another full health person.I get that tunneling isn't fun for the survivor but for killer it's a viable strategy. There's not enough time to hook everybody 3 times as the game stands and getting 1 survivor out of the trail earlier helps a lot.
she definitely saw others.
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@mcNuggets said:
@Poweas said:
For the love of god, can someone explain to me why I'm always getting tunnelled? There was a Spirit who wouldn't even use her power much, I ran her for about 3 minutes with my teammates doing nothing relevant and getting 1 gen. And the second I'm unhooked, she always went for me. Left everyone else. There were 3 gens and it was 3 people alive. She already killed one. The other 2 died in seconds to her. So why did she tunnel me?! My other 2 chases were about 30 seconds. She claimed I ran into her arms even tho I clearly went the other way. .-.Because theres no reason to go for full health survivors when there are half health survivors who are already stage 2 / death stage.
one of them was stage 2. she didn't tunnel them. she was fairer. and she saw my unhookers.
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@Chi said:
Your Claudette is cute as well! I wore that exact outfit a bit ago, before the new cosmetic came out.
Yeah the mean streets Claudette looks good. But ty.
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@Coriander said:
I was trying to be funny ~_~ but yeah, I use the white coat Claudette, and while I like it, I get spotted so easily.Yeah. I love getting chased. but not when its tunnelling.
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@se05239 said:
To be fair, if you looped her good for 3 minutes and she wasn't smart enough to stop, then I can understand why she went for you right away over and over. Why'd she risk you going free again?I'm not that threatening. She was a dick.
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@twistedmonkey said:
The 3 minute chase to start with is the most obvious reason, if you could do that again that should be other 3 gens done for competent survivors so getting you out the game quick gives more time for the easier prey.No. She claimed she wasn't tunnelling me. And my team were trash. They were NOT competent. 1 gen in that 1st chase is stupid and rank 20 like. And they got downed to her in seconds. Trust me you're completely off.
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@Coriander said:
What character/outfit were you wearing?It matters.
No it doesn't. There was a p3 claudette and I wear this
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@Chi said:
I am wearing the new cosmetic for her, I usually combine these with something else, but the full outfit is just freaking great on her!Aw nice. Yours looks way better than mine.
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@TreemanXD said:
Now I don’t main Claudette but I don’t use blendette either but most every Claudette I see uses blendette.
It's dumb. I like to play the character to have fun and not blend. I try to change peoples opinion on her.
https://youtu.be/n6uJGgoER4g
