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@wouldntyouliketoknow said:
@Vortexas said:
They are punishing themselves by Gen Tapping trust me.It's much faster to simply power through the ruin, than tap even if you can't get hit those hex skill checks.
I just started using gen tapping- it works way better than powering through.
Practice Great Skill Checks. If you can hit Great Skill Checks every time, generators will take 80 seconds. If you tap, however, there's a short period where you can't interact with the generator every single time, and it quickly adds up.
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Can't name and shame.
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I used to encounter stuff like this back in the early days of DbD. I rarely reported it because I wasn't sure if they were better than me as Killer or if they were hacking.
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@wouldntyouliketoknow said:
@Orion said:
You objectively told me your opinion, but that's still not fact.lord, whatever, do you want a cookie? I want to talk about solutions for face camping, not argue with killer mains that gen rush is a thing.
I didn't mention gen rush and I'm not a Killer main, so we're off to a half-decent start. Now you just need to stop being so hostile toward people who disagree with you and you'll be on your way to a conversation instead of an echo chamber.
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@mcNuggets said:
@Orion said:
@mcNuggets said:
@Orion said:
@mcNuggets said:
Yeah, but there won't be ######### happening to this guy.Thinking like that is how people stop reporting and is why ######### get away with this bullshit. Reports are not useless.
I know its reportable and I do report stuff like this, but I see these people with the same account playing over and over against me again.
Temporary bans, probably. However, some people fall for the lie that reports do nothing, so they don't report, thus creating a self-fulfilling prophecy.
I myself was acting like a dick for centuries, though I have stopped by now, I was never punished in any form and I did ######### like this, even worse.
Never saw someone actually getting punished.
Maybe you just were never reported. Like I said, some people fall for the lie that reports do nothing. ######### purposefully spread that lie because they don't want to be punished. It's like people who spread around the idea that voting doesn't make a difference because they don't want to be voted out.
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You objectively told me your opinion, but that's still not fact.
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@mcNuggets said:
@Orion said:
@mcNuggets said:
Yeah, but there won't be ######### happening to this guy.Thinking like that is how people stop reporting and is why ######### get away with this bullshit. Reports are not useless.
I know its reportable and I do report stuff like this, but I see these people with the same account playing over and over against me again.
Temporary bans, probably. However, some people fall for the lie that reports do nothing, so they don't report, thus creating a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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@mcNuggets said:
Yeah, but there won't be ######### happening to this guy.Thinking like that is how people stop reporting and is why ######### get away with this bullshit. Reports are not useless.
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@mcNuggets said:
Give killers an alternative style instead of camping and they will commit to it.
But players will always play the easier way.Indeed, this is just common sense. If you have two ways to do something - one requires you to jump through hoops and purposefully handicap yourself, the other is easy and straightforward - but both yield the same result, only a masochist wouldn't go for the easier one.
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@wouldntyouliketoknow said:
@Orion said:
@wouldntyouliketoknow said:
Seriously, I can't believe you. 'Gen rushing', 'free unhooks', if you do play survivor, it's not often. Face camping/ camping ruins the game for a lot of people. THAT is the cheap and easy way, again, shown by how many points you don't get when you play this way. I don't think survivor is coddled the way you think it is, but I do think you feel that way as a killer main who would like easy kills.Well, that's just your opinion.
Hahahahahaha, have a wonderful night
What's good for the goose... I gave you objective facts about what I play and don't play and what my opinions are. You're dismissing them due to your opinion. This requires no rebuttal. You're subjectively dismissing objective facts because they don't fit your worldview.
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@wouldntyouliketoknow said:
Seriously, I can't believe you. 'Gen rushing', 'free unhooks', if you do play survivor, it's not often. Face camping/ camping ruins the game for a lot of people. THAT is the cheap and easy way, again, shown by how many points you don't get when you play this way. I don't think survivor is coddled the way you think it is, but I do think you feel that way as a killer main who would like easy kills.Well, that's just your opinion.
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@wouldntyouliketoknow said:
@Orion said:
@wouldntyouliketoknow said:
@Orion said:
@wouldntyouliketoknow said:
People think it takes 2 minutes to do a gen with 3 survivors while also knowing right off the bat that a killer is camping.I agree, the killers should be punished for this behavior. Theres other toxic things killers do, but this one right here, if you play more than just killer, know that it ruins the game for everyone else. As much as people want to cry 'counter it' they're not the ones in these games that have to experience it.
I personally (even when I lose) thank the killer for not camping (if they don't) and they tell me "NP, I never camp, I also play survivor" If that doesn't speak volumes then nothing will.
Killers should not be punished for not providing free unhooks.
You can keep calling it 'free unhooks' but if thats how you view it you suck as killer. You're supposed to hook people multiple times, you get way more points than if you just hook everyone once, thanks for your opinion though.
What would you call an unhook that takes no skill and carries no risk? I call it "free", but maybe you use another expression for it. Handed on a silver platter? Given, not earned? Skill-less? The possibilities are endless.
Again, you can call it whatever you want. If the objective was to hook people once and be done, you'd be getting all the points for it, but you don't. Hooking people once and every one dying gets you ######### for points vs chase, and multiple hooks- even if no one dies you get way more points. And again, if you actually played survivor you'd understand. But very very clearly you don't.
I do play Survivor. Difference is, I don't complain about hooks being dangerous, or not getting free unhooks, or not being saved. Because I recognize that Survivor is the weak role and isn't supposed to have nearly as many safety nets as it does.
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@wouldntyouliketoknow said:
@Orion said:
@wouldntyouliketoknow said:
@Orion said:
@wouldntyouliketoknow said:
@NoShinyPony said:
The majority of players don't like camping but we would need other mechanics to make camping redundant. Your suggestion isn't a solution, sorry. That doesn't mean that you should stop making suggestions if you can come up with good ideas.
I'd like to think the majority doesn't like camping but if it's an issue than clearly not enough people dislike it. I don't have any statistics on this, so I'll have to take your word for it.
How is my suggestion not a solution?
Your suggestion is not a solution because:
- Camping should always be an option for the Killer. Forcing the Killer to give free unhooks only makes hooks even less relevant than they already are.
- Camping is inherently bad for the Killer, regardless of your excuses that "not everyone plays SWF". Your opponent is doing nothing for two full minutes.
- It was already tried in the PTB and Survivors abused it.
- Camping is a symptom; not a problem. Giving a blood transfusion to someone with a severed femoral artery and ignoring the wound is not a solution.
- Camping is a Survivor-created problem with a Survivor-side solution. Like it or not, camping became widespread due to Survivors rewarding it.
Genuinely I feel like you all 3 are just killer mains. I get that survivors abused a system that attempted to thwart people who use camping.
That's all you needed to say.I don't agree with you on your other_ opinions_.
The last part, at the very least, is not an opinion. It's a documented fact that anyone who's played the game since release can tell you. Back in the beginning, Survivors knew to rush gens when the Killer was camping. Nowadays, they want to force free unhooks.
By the way, even if the rest are opinions doesn't mean pointing that out makes them invalid. This entire thread is your opinion, but you don't see anyone dismissing it out of hand because of it.
lol. you came here to tell me my suggestion isn't a solution because of a slew of opinions, and one fact.
The whole "handing out free unhooks" I don't hear that from people who play killer and survivor. Just killer mains. "Gen rush" okay okay okay. So survivors do 3 things. They unhook, they heal, the only way they can leave is doing gens. They can't block the gens, they can't do anything other than use tool boxes to do the gens. Gen rush isn't a thing. That's not an opinion, that's just fact.Killers need to get hooks, you lose points if you hang around someone who is hooked because it's discouraged. It's not acceptable behavior. That's a fact.
Your opinion is not a fact either, so I'm not sure why you expect me - or anyone else - to come in here with objective truths when you come to us with opinions.
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@ToxicFengM1n said:
@Orion said:
@wouldntyouliketoknow said:
@Orion said:
@wouldntyouliketoknow said:
People think it takes 2 minutes to do a gen with 3 survivors while also knowing right off the bat that a killer is camping.I agree, the killers should be punished for this behavior. Theres other toxic things killers do, but this one right here, if you play more than just killer, know that it ruins the game for everyone else. As much as people want to cry 'counter it' they're not the ones in these games that have to experience it.
I personally (even when I lose) thank the killer for not camping (if they don't) and they tell me "NP, I never camp, I also play survivor" If that doesn't speak volumes then nothing will.
Killers should not be punished for not providing free unhooks.
You can keep calling it 'free unhooks' but if thats how you view it you suck as killer. You're supposed to hook people multiple times, you get way more points than if you just hook everyone once, thanks for your opinion though.
What would you call an unhook that takes no skill and carries no risk? I call it "free", but maybe you use another expression for it. Handed on a silver platter? Given, not earned? Skill-less? The possibilities are endless.
why the hell are you guys fighting over free unhooks, your correct orion, in my opinion, because you do nothing to earn it
Well, that guy thinks that pointing out something is an opinion somehow invalidates it or makes it irrelevant. Unless it's his opinion, of course.
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@Aari_Piggy66 said:
She feels empathy and compassion. Hence why she gets depressed when the little girls she takes all die.
However yes she is a sociopath.Sociopaths don't feel compassion, but you're right. I forgot she got sad whenever "her" girls died.
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@wouldntyouliketoknow said:
@Orion said:
@wouldntyouliketoknow said:
People think it takes 2 minutes to do a gen with 3 survivors while also knowing right off the bat that a killer is camping.I agree, the killers should be punished for this behavior. Theres other toxic things killers do, but this one right here, if you play more than just killer, know that it ruins the game for everyone else. As much as people want to cry 'counter it' they're not the ones in these games that have to experience it.
I personally (even when I lose) thank the killer for not camping (if they don't) and they tell me "NP, I never camp, I also play survivor" If that doesn't speak volumes then nothing will.
Killers should not be punished for not providing free unhooks.
You can keep calling it 'free unhooks' but if thats how you view it you suck as killer. You're supposed to hook people multiple times, you get way more points than if you just hook everyone once, thanks for your opinion though.
What would you call an unhook that takes no skill and carries no risk? I call it "free", but maybe you use another expression for it. Handed on a silver platter? Given, not earned? Skill-less? The possibilities are endless.
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Did you report it?
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@wouldntyouliketoknow said:
People think it takes 2 minutes to do a gen with 3 survivors while also knowing right off the bat that a killer is camping.I agree, the killers should be punished for this behavior. Theres other toxic things killers do, but this one right here, if you play more than just killer, know that it ruins the game for everyone else. As much as people want to cry 'counter it' they're not the ones in these games that have to experience it.
I personally (even when I lose) thank the killer for not camping (if they don't) and they tell me "NP, I never camp, I also play survivor" If that doesn't speak volumes then nothing will.
Killers should not be punished for not providing free unhooks.
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@wouldntyouliketoknow said:
@Orion said:
@wouldntyouliketoknow said:
@NoShinyPony said:
The majority of players don't like camping but we would need other mechanics to make camping redundant. Your suggestion isn't a solution, sorry. That doesn't mean that you should stop making suggestions if you can come up with good ideas.I'd like to think the majority doesn't like camping but if it's an issue than clearly not enough people dislike it. I don't have any statistics on this, so I'll have to take your word for it.
How is my suggestion not a solution?
Your suggestion is not a solution because:
- Camping should always be an option for the Killer. Forcing the Killer to give free unhooks only makes hooks even less relevant than they already are.
- Camping is inherently bad for the Killer, regardless of your excuses that "not everyone plays SWF". Your opponent is doing nothing for two full minutes.
- It was already tried in the PTB and Survivors abused it.
- Camping is a symptom; not a problem. Giving a blood transfusion to someone with a severed femoral artery and ignoring the wound is not a solution.
- Camping is a Survivor-created problem with a Survivor-side solution. Like it or not, camping became widespread due to Survivors rewarding it.
Genuinely I feel like you all 3 are just killer mains. I get that survivors abused a system that attempted to thwart people who use camping.
That's all you needed to say.I don't agree with you on your other_ opinions_.
The last part, at the very least, is not an opinion. It's a documented fact that anyone who's played the game since release can tell you. Back in the beginning, Survivors knew to rush gens when the Killer was camping. Nowadays, they want to force free unhooks.
By the way, even if the rest are opinions doesn't mean pointing that out makes them invalid. This entire thread is your opinion, but you don't see anyone dismissing it out of hand because of it.
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@wouldntyouliketoknow said:
@NoShinyPony said:
The majority of players don't like camping but we would need other mechanics to make camping redundant. Your suggestion isn't a solution, sorry. That doesn't mean that you should stop making suggestions if you can come up with good ideas.I'd like to think the majority doesn't like camping but if it's an issue than clearly not enough people dislike it. I don't have any statistics on this, so I'll have to take your word for it.
How is my suggestion not a solution?
Your suggestion is not a solution because:
- Camping should always be an option for the Killer. Forcing the Killer to give free unhooks only makes hooks even less relevant than they already are.
- Camping is inherently bad for the Killer, regardless of your excuses that "not everyone plays SWF". Your opponent is doing nothing for two full minutes.
- It was already tried in the PTB and Survivors abused it.
- Camping is a symptom; not a problem. Giving a blood transfusion to someone with a severed femoral artery and ignoring the wound is not a solution.
- Camping is a Survivor-created problem with a Survivor-side solution. Like it or not, camping became widespread due to Survivors rewarding it.
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@AlphaJackson said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@AlphaJackson said:
How about we completely ignore canon and give Amanda, John's infamous cloak?Because that's illegal.
Thanks for the constructive input... as if we didnt know that already.
Thanks for making me agree with Senzu.
What exactly is he supposed to say? "I have several million dollars to spare that I can use to persuade the copyright holders to let the devs add cosmetics to licensed Killers"? It's the way things are; this dev-bashing thread, light bashing as it may be compared to the others, is pointless. -
@Theluckyboi said:
What? explain this to me, wasnt Benedict Baker the one that got sacrficed during hollow blight?we dont get an Benedict diary entry about the legion or Jeff, which casually happens to have been introduced after hallowed blight
Survivors get sacrificed all the time; it's what they're there for. They always go back to the campfire.
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@Blackadder said:
@SadonicShadow said:
The Entity thrives off of violence and sacrifice of the innocent to feed it.It thrives off the hope of the survivors, the hope they'll one day escape and return home. And once you're out of hope you become a killer. as it seems Benedict baker may have become one.
The Entity thrives off of strong emotions. Survivors who stop having strong emotional reactions are tossed into the Void. Benedict is still a Survivor; it's Vigo who is no longer a Survivor (which is not to say that he's now a Killer).
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[insert obligatory "face camping doesn't exist any more" here]
Camping is counterable. If the Killer camps and ends up with more than one kill, that's on the Survivors who fed him.
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@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
This is honestly probably true, even in my case xDI think the main issue is incompatible strategies. Every team member wants to do something in a different way, so you end up uncoordinated. Then there really are the potatoes, rage-quitters, etc., some of whom will disconnect if your team doesn't win every single battle.
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It was hyperbole. Anyway, when a new video comes out, it's usually announced here.
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So are you gonna personally refund everyone who bought the DLC or not? My Steam wallet is still empty.
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@SpacingLlamas said:
I dont understand why totems cant and dont spawn on the edge of the map/walls. Only immerse survivors go right on the edge, so otherwise they be good spots.
Harder to protect for sure, but still good spots. Also probably adding more dull totems would be good too with that change, even though that be a buff for noed and thrill of the hunt.Too true. The only time I managed to get 5 tokens on DH is when it spawned on a random corner on the Swamp, far from generators and literally everything else.
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@MojoTheFabulous said:
While other Killers can't be hit by their own power they all have negatives. Such as having to reload, chainsaw cooldowns for hitting walls and other things.Evan has to physically travel the map to pick up and use his power, and can only carry a small, limited number of traps at any given moment. Isn't that enough of a negative?
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@Vortexas said:
I mean if they aren't going to have BBQ show up on the Shrine, why not remove all DLC perks unless you own the DLC.Because BBQ is a single DLC perk and it makes no sense to do what you're saying.
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Everyone has.
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@JammyJewels said:
Oof, that sounds harsh. To be honest I’d rather they spent more money. If it keeps the youths indoors... it might help decrease the knife crime that keeps popping up on my news feed.To be clear, that's only if Brexit forces developers to put servers in the UK, and it's only my guess that it'd be cheaper to exclude you entirely.
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@JammyJewels said:
I’m in the EU (Don’t know if Brexit will give us our own UK servers, our governments a mess) and have faced waits of 20 minutes+. It’s so horrid.It's doubtful that Brexit will require any developers to give you your own dedicated servers. It's cheaper just to exclude you entirely.
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@ASurvkillivorer said:
Is there a list of actual bannable offenses somewhere?https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/19450/game-rules-and-report-system
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@Tru3Lemon said:
the devs dont want to make monster creatures type of thing he cannot be in the game for alot of reasons.
the only licensed killer that i see in this game its
1.- pennywise
2.-babadook
3.-candyman
4.-the ring
5.-ash vs evil deadCan't put in Pennywise, since Pennywise is basically an Entity of its own. Our Entity is even partially inspired by it.
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I smell Stockholm Syndrome.
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I'm, like, 99% sure that it is, but if it's not, it should be. I hope you were reported.
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No, you may not have free escapes from the Killer's shoulder.
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@Larcz said:
So when i use monitor and abuse this give me somthing like more chance to grab from gen?No, other way around. Only people outside your TR will hear the phasing sound.
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She was not released in her intended state. Once she was fixed and received one buff that most people agreed was necessary, she became good.
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How come? Explain your thought process. Why does winning in a certain way make you worse than the player who lost to you?
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@Gorgonia said:
I’m asking how you can be so sure they are all SWF. Toxic SWF are unfun, but it’s not always a certainty that people that log on at the same time are together. I would agree if all 4 of them were, but still... I rarely dodge games, unless they all log on at the same time and show off bloodied p3 sets hahaI play on PC, so I can literally just check their profiles. However, I do so to prepare, rather than to dodge.
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@Gorgonia said:
It is still kind of hard to guess whether your game will be fun or not only by guessing people at the lobby are SWF.I play on PS4, I had to start playing killer more because survivor wait time is ridiculous. I’ve had over 30 minutes of waiting for a game that gets dodged right as I join.
Any Killer will tell you that SWF make trials unfun more often than not. It's not a certainty, but if the majority of trials with SWF are unfun because said SWF are actively trying to be toxic, dodging ALL SWF is simply the natural result.
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@Morfedel said:
after having lived through two evenings of extraordinarily toxic survivors (and I'd heard the term but never really experienced it until a few days ago), I no longer have any shame about camping.soon as the toxic survivor ######### stops, I'll stop the camping #########.
Good luck with that. It hasn't stopped for 3 years. You're seeing the result of it.
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@Dead_by_David said:
@Orion said:
@Dead_by_David said:
@Orion said:
@Dead_by_David said:
@AshleyWB Oh, I could understand if they made a murderer Jesus or Tom Cruise but a priest of nondescript religion may be OK?That's up to the religious groups who're offended by unflattering depictions of their respective religions.
I understand that this may be taken as offensive. I respect that people each have there own beliefs but sometimes I wonder what the harm is if it is not an insult intended.
Some people perceive anything that isn't total support of their PoV to be opposition to their PoV. If you point out anything wrong that they said, they turn hostile and perceive you as an enemy.
In this case, if anything is seen as unflattering, they decry it as being a mockery of their beliefs and call for censure. Hell, for some groups, just depicting something that is loosely based on their beliefs is enough to trigger them, because it'll never be accurate (never mind the fact that every religion has a metric ton of denominations).
Unfortunately for those of us who just want good entertainment and don't mind if the entertainment is satirical or doesn't accurately portray religious beliefs, these groups sometimes hold positions of power; either directly by literally being the ruling class, or indirectly by having great numbers. Thus, they can have good entertainment pulled just because they didn't like it by creating a major shitstorm. It's happened many times this century, primarily with TV series and movies, but also in the form of book burnings.So true! Religion has so much power as unfortunately with most things the loudest are the ones heard!
@AshleyWB I remember this, I understand that a large amount of people would not want to see this however I doupt that most of them would buy a south park game!
It'll get a lot worse if the rising neo-Nazi movement gets their way.
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@AshleyWB said:
@Orion yeah, Onion Nurse knows their stuff.
I remember years ago playing southpark stick of truth a whole section of that game was censored by eu law and I couldn't see who was getting probed by an alien.
Apparently it was too graphic. I think if I bought the game I know what I am gonna encounter.That was actually Ubisoft's decision. EU law actually has very little censorship, believe it or not.
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@Dead_by_David said:
@Orion said:
@Dead_by_David said:
@AshleyWB Oh, I could understand if they made a murderer Jesus or Tom Cruise but a priest of nondescript religion may be OK?That's up to the religious groups who're offended by unflattering depictions of their respective religions.
I understand that this may be taken as offensive. I respect that people each have there own beliefs but sometimes I wonder what the harm is if it is not an insult intended.
Some people perceive anything that isn't total support of their PoV to be opposition to their PoV. If you point out anything wrong that they said, they turn hostile and perceive you as an enemy.
In this case, if anything is seen as unflattering, they decry it as being a mockery of their beliefs and call for censure. Hell, for some groups, just depicting something that is loosely based on their beliefs is enough to trigger them, because it'll never be accurate (never mind the fact that every religion has a metric ton of denominations).
Unfortunately for those of us who just want good entertainment and don't mind if the entertainment is satirical or doesn't accurately portray religious beliefs, these groups sometimes hold positions of power; either directly by literally being the ruling class, or indirectly by having great numbers. Thus, they can have good entertainment pulled just because they didn't like it by creating a major shitstorm. It's happened many times this century, primarily with TV series and movies, but also in the form of book burnings. -
@Dead_by_David said:
@AshleyWB Oh, I could understand if they made a murderer Jesus or Tom Cruise but a priest of nondescript religion may be OK?That's up to the religious groups who're offended by unflattering depictions of their respective religions.
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@AshleyWB said:
People always complain saying religious killers are forbidden. I'm pretty sure The clown is Buddhist or something.Not "religious", but "religion-based". As in, based on any particular mythology. That kind of thing can get games boycotted and/or banned in some countries (depending on the religion, the country will be different).
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If you personally refund everyone who bought him and pay them for the time they could've spent playing the Cannibal, then we have ourselves a deal.