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@kyogul said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2513978#Comment_2513978
The same people running around saying Spirit was unfair are the ones who also see no issue with Dead Hard, Iron Will, old DS, old object, and don't see how those are unfair and how survivors have more unfair tools at their leisure than almost any killer does.
I think old DS and old Object were incredibly unfair. I think Dead Hard can be too strong in circumstances, and I'm fine with Iron Will. Not with how it interacts with the buggy sound of this game, but the idea of Iron Will is fine.
Spirit was unfair.
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@SunderMun said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2513981#Comment_2513981
Sound is always bugged. Whenever you manage to hear her footsteps in a new patch, a hotfix comes out within a week that bugs it out again. Every time.
I legitimately cannot remember the last time sound was not bugged.
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2513986#Comment_2513986
Exhaustion as a status effect just doesn't exist, huh?
Don't forget Mettle of Man. Still horrendously OP.
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If more people switch to Survivor my Killer Queue won't be so long, which I wouldn't be upset about.
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@CashelP14 said:
I'm just happy to see some actual counterplay to Spirit.
Though seeing the devs are changing add-ons for some killers (including Hag) makes me very excited 😁😁
I hope the Add-On changes are:
"Whoops, we deleted her."
Best Hag change.
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@Phasmamain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2513965#Comment_2513965
Can’t wait for spirit mains to complain that their killer isn’t S tier anymore tbh. It’s going to be pretty funny
"BuT sHe'S rUiNeD!!1! sUrViVoR mAiNs WiN aGaIn!!11!!"
It's already happening. I might actually play Spirit more now.
I wonder how @TheGannMan feels about these changes...
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You can hear the footsteps if you're paying attention.
This change just makes both sides have audio, with only minor visual feedback.
Spirit: Can hear the survivors breathing and steps, and see scratch marks (or see blood with Father's glasses, unless that is an add-on changed.) I can agree that this will make Iron Will too strong against her, but only because Iron Will seems to bug out and silence breathing too. Which it isn't supposed to do.
Survivors: Now hear a directional phase, and kicks up dust.
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@Phasmamain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2513932#Comment_2513932
Yeah it finally feels like an update might actually go through without any major gameplay issues or balance issues
I'm going to have to see what happens when it comes out. It definitely looks nice on paper, but who knows if they can apply it to the product.
I'm guessing Monday we get the introduction of Boon Totems, since, well, they pretty much confirmed in the post itself. I'm really hoping the Key and Mori changes come along with this, just so everybody will shut up about them. But, this is already a pretty good amount of stuff, so I'm not super expecting it.
I'm also expecting a meltdown about Spirit over the next few weeks and especially when the mid-chapter comes out. So yay.
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I am... Actually optimistic for this mid-chapter too. And if I read right, there's more coming Monday.
I won't get my hopes up, but I'm pretty happy so far.
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You good buddy?
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While not a villain, how ######### cool would it be to see Ghost Rider walking across the map? His power is basically already figured out too.
As for actual candidates, Carnage or Venom for Marvel.
Scarecrow is the obvious choice for DC, but I also think they could spin a legendary skin for Clown to Joker (If they did legendary skins for killers anymore, or whatever the hell they call them now.)
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@Mooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2513396#Comment_2513396
I think it was stated that the effect will benefit the surv team? But I am not sure if that was official info or leaked info or merely speculation.
@Mandy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2513404#Comment_2513404
I confirmed that it will benefit the survivor team, so don't worry about that being a leak
Well, I suppose that goes to prove I have the memory capabilities of a goldfish. Thanks for the reminder!
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Am I the only one that thinks Boon totems won't affect the entire game, still? Especially if their perks? I really think they will only affect the one survivor. I could be wrong though, who knows.
I just really doubt they will be anything as powerful as mitigate regression. I could easily be wrong though.
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I think this goes back as far as any multiplayer game. A lot of people have this self defense mechanism. If they're losing, it isn't their fault. That would feel #########. So it's easier to blame your opponent. They were just being a tryhard, they were cheating, they were using an overpowered thing.
Influencers tend to make this worse because they're loud and they have an audience. A Killer main will watch a Killer main streamer and if that streamer has a bad match, he blames the game for being Survivor-sided or SWF. A Survivor main will watch a Survivor main streamer, and if they die, it's because killers are overpowered or they camped and tunnelled. Those people parrot those opinions because people put a lot of value onto these streamers. This isn't every streamer or creator, of course.
I sincerely doubt a good portion of people even know what META means, just that it's tied to powerful perks. A lot of Survivor only players don't seem to know what camping nor tunnelling is, and a lot of Killer only players probably don't know how to loop. They would of course claim they do. This is an endless recycle that repeats with every game, just in different ways.
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No amount of bad survivors are ever going to make me say "Oh, nice, RPD!" And that will never change.
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Good luck, brave soul.
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@miketheratguy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2511611#Comment_2511611
I don't want to turn this into a Wraith discussion (not that I'm saying you are, I'm the one who brought him up) but just to address your comment it's really a matter of him being too easy to use, too many abilities that work too well together, too few ways to counter them (the arguments are always "use flashlights, run spine chill, loop constantly, play with headphones, and be by windows at all times, which is frankly kind of ridiculous to expect out of anybody to reasonably defend against a single killer). Wraith games are cheap. Run up while invisible, turbo uncloak (often while silent), super lunge for free hit, rinse, wash, repeat. How anyone doesn't at least consider the possibility that this is cheap is beyond me, but as you said, different experiences. Everyone hates the Nurse, I enjoy facing her. :)
I don't either, I'm tired of seeing them. And all I can say in response is, yeah, different experiences. I have an easy time against Wraith, so I don't get the hate. I get the hate for the Hit and Run playstyle, but I think his basekit is fine. At the end of the day, it matters only what BHVR think. If they are happy with him, he's probably going to stay the way he is for a very, very long time.
More onto the actual discussion:
I can't remember every single add-on, so I'll just talk about the ones I remember.
Wraith: I would actually get rid of Silent Bell and All Seeing - Blood, I think they're too strong at the moment.
Cenobite: what the ######### with Engineer's Fang. I can't believe we went from Nemesis' garbage Iri add-ons to Cenobite's.
Michael: Definitely Tombstone Piece and Fragrant Tuft.
Nurse: Double fatigue and double range.
Oni: I still have no idea why Top-Knot is still in the game.
Survivor: I don't really have an issue with any add-ons at the moment. Part of me wants to say Styptic but that's only because I've gone against them a lot recently and it's really starting to irritate me. And, just, everything with keys. But if they really are getting reworked, I'm really, really hoping that just removes them from the blood-web. Get rid of some of the fluff. Same with Mori's.
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@miketheratguy said:
I try not to play Wraith because I feel cheap and disrespectful to survivors when I do (I'm serious, that's how far it's come) so I don't know how much of his kit is base and how much of it is add-ons, perks and everything else. All I know is that I don't feel that he should be invisible, AND super fast while invisible, AND be able to see where everyone and everything is while invisible, AND be able to go in and out of invisibility within the span of two seconds, AND do it in complete silence, AND have a super lunge every time he does, AND be able to use all of the above with absolutely no cooldown or compensatory punishment whatsoever. I'm surprised that they haven't just taken him to his logical conclusion and given him a gun yet.
Er, I mean, "he's fine, he's barely C-tier. I'm just mad because I can't "bully him anymore".
I'm surprised that they haven't just taken him to his logical conclusion and given him a gun yet.
Because BHVR typically balance by stats. If their stats say he's fine, by their metrics, they will not touch him.
If he wrecks lower ranks, like most killers do, but doesn't perform as well at higher SBMM, they won't care. And I doubt we will ever see the stats soon, so we don't know what their data is with him. We probably won't for a good long while, if ever.
I'm still at the point where I am baffled anybody has trouble against Wrath, he's still one of the easiest killers to against for me. But that's just differing experiences.
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Ranks now have no indication of skill anymore. They literally mean nothing when it comes to matchmaking.
Your SBMM put you against them, for some reason.
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In the anniversary event, we learned we would get two licensed chapters this year.
Which we already did. Resident Evil and Hellraiser. They could be lying to us, of course, but I kinda doubt it.
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Slinger's shots cause the deep wounds state when he either hits you or makes you snap the chain.
Slinger doesn't cause deep wounds if he doesn't hit you with his lunge. This also means you don't get the speed boost.
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@GannTM said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2511061#Comment_2511061
Oh yeah they’re a problem definitely. Every killer should take lessons from Spirit, even though she isn’t strong enough.
BHVR, stop being cowards and make all killers Spirit.
Stronger too, of course.
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@GannTM said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2511053#Comment_2511053
No currently Nurse and Blight are overpowered and take 0 skill. They make Spirit look like a joke.
Really? We're gonna call them OP and no-skill when Legion and Trapper exist? Those are the real OP, no skill killers.
Hands down.
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They should buff Nurse and Blight first. Weakest killers in the game.
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@UnluckyDucky said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2510445#Comment_2510445
thats fair :l oh they were strong for 1 week during their entirety? never let them be good again. ever. make sure they are forever C list.
I can't remember how long it was for, but I think around five months. They weren't neccesarily strong- They were this infuriating mix of weak and uncounterable.
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@UnluckyDucky said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2510238#Comment_2510238
to my knowledge Legion doesn't have anything going for them. i have no clue why i like this killer other than their look and backstory--i kinda wish they would be reworked so they matched their killer trailer more. i really thought theyd have some kinda power that made them look like a survivor. i mean if wraith can cloak to be invisible, but not attack, why cant legion cloak to look like a survivor and not attack or something
Legion was broken on his (their?) start. Literally damn near killed the game. After a good while of that, BHVR nerfed them into the ground and refuse to give them any of the buffs they kind of need at this point.
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@M4jinviper said:
"Unless the majority shows people care about the voicelines"
Ya that was exactly my latter point. I believe their are many who do who aren't as vocal that need to be.
Enough people may not care.
As for your other comment about the monopoly, well, I doubt it. I'm very pessimistic when it comes to stuff like that. There have been many options for competition. They all failed.
DbD could certainly use the competition, but that doesn't matter if the general public doesn't hook onto another game like they have DbD.
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It exists.
This is probably the most meh I've ever felt about the game.
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Wraith isn't the fastest.
Most of the movement speed based powers are faster. Blight, Billy, Oni. I don't remember what Spirit's base is, but she can go well over 150%.
BHVR are just terrified of giving Legion any meaningful buffs because of his start.
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@M4jinviper said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2510197#Comment_2510197
Yes it is capitalism, if you lose trust from your client base and there are plenty of other legitimate reasons why this is happening with this "product", you start to lose consumers. This one is a simple fix, tell us what is happening (even after you fix it).
"BHVR doesnt have to tell us anything". In capitalism that's not true. They have to tell us what we demand to know given a large enough population care to know that it effect their bottom line. Its whatever the market will bear. That's the true double edged sword of capitalism.
BHVR has the monopoly on asymmetric horror games. They know this- Which is why they continue to ######### up. As long as this is the case, they don't have to worry about consumerism. You really think the last few chapters would come out in the state they did if they cared about consumers?
They don't have to tell us because not enough people care. As proven by DeadByBoycott. This forum alone has a very small percentile of the player-base. Unless the majority shows people care about the voicelines, BHVR has to say nothing. If they even can say anything.
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If they run and you don't have a TR, it's pretty safe to assume they have Spine Chill. Or maybe Premonition, but imo that perk is nowhere near as good as Spine Chill.
Other than that, no. With passive Survivor perks like that you just have to guess.
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We don't know anything.
Could it be the stupid memes and they got tired of it? Maybe.
Could it be the actual license holders got over the stupid memes? Maybe. In which case, they literally can't say anything about it or they could get sued.
Sorry, that's how this ######### works. BHVR don't have to tell us anything, I don't know why people act like they do. It's #########, but that's capitalism and legality.
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You will get all the Auric cells you've unlocked so far. From level 1 to 37, and any you unlock after that.
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I would completely delete map offerings.
I'd make the grind of this game not so terrible. Something like just removing perk tiers. They don't need to exist anymore imo.
I'd also remove the BP max amount from matches. 8000 still marks the iri emblem, but you can earn more pointe after that.
Remove a lot of the useless fluff from the bloodweb.
Have BHVR optimize the ######### game.
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@DetailedDetriment said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2508195#Comment_2508195
Standing still isn't a mindgame, it's being lazy. Regardless, a Spirit with a few hundred hours can just as easily win a match as a Nurse with thousands of hours because unlike Nurse, who takes nearly a thousand hours to master, Spirit can be picked up and mastered in a few days.
I am by no means a fan of Spirit, but Nurse taking "Thousands of hours to master" is ridiculous.
Once you learn her, you learn her. It's all muscle memory from there. And learning her really takes maybe a few weeks at most.
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Yeah, I don't know. I don't play Trickster, but he's the only one I have any cakes left on (like, 27) so if I ever need some bloodpoints I begrudgingly play him.
This ######### happens every, single, time. I get it, he isn't fun- Please don't DC on the first down because you tried to loop a Trickster on something he could throw over.
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Welcome to Elo Hell.
Hope you enjoy your stay :)
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@Jago said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2507777#Comment_2507777
Good ol' time eating DS with enduring.
I don't even miss it for DS I just miss it for lightburn.
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@Miles said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2507774#Comment_2507774
as a matter of fact im pretty sure enduring doesnt affect wraith´s stun time when cloaked.
It does if it's from a pallet.
It used to for everything else.
:(
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2507759#Comment_2507759
Let's chain it with Head On for extra good measure :))
"Local man terrified of lockers. More at 11."
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2507747#Comment_2507747
Why play against a Wraith when you can make them dc with Blast Mine and Flashbang 😎
oh god please no
There's nothing that makes me panic more than the sound of a ######### flashbang drop when I'm playing Wraith
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How I've always felt about him.
I like playing as him, (Though Demo boy has captured my heart now).
I find him incredibly easy to play against. I genuinely don't understand how people have trouble against him, but I guess that's just differing experience.
I sure there are people who have easy times playing against killer's I don't. Like Plague. I always lose to Plague, in the very rare times I see her.
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@Kurri said:
I'm not sure what you're complaining about. So you wanted to run a meme build that had no pressure against a 4man swat swf with all meta perks and items?
Your missing my point completely. My point is that I am a relatively high skill player. I can consistently get kills against most teams, even against sweaty SWF.
There is no world where I should be going against legitimately new players, even as a Killer I do not play much. It's legitimately unfair for the other side.
So yes, I guess I would've rather gone against a swat SWF then have SBMM be so entirely unbalanced.
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oh my lord look at him he's just doin doggo things
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The day BHVR let's people opt out of specific matches is the day half the killer roster and SWF never find matches.
So, yeah, probably won't happen.
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2506323#Comment_2506323
If you stanned our lord and saviour the Moo Moos you'd experience the same omniscience as I.
then it will be done
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At first, it seemed decent. I had to sweat more than usual, but my matches were more fair.
I don't know when or why, but SBMM ######### nosedived off a cliff and my matches are one of two extremes.
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the only time I've been a giga-brain.
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@RiskyKara said:
A bottom tier killer running a meme build in a non sweat minded playstyle going against people who are new and learning? Yeah sounds like MMR doing it's job.
But MMR doesn't take perks nor add-ons into account. It had no way of knowing I wasn't going to sweat, it can't read my mind.
If I chose to sweat they'd all be dead. It doesn't matter if Trapper is bottom tier.

