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Pretty much disagree all the way.
Spirit to be honest is up there at least with Billy, but more likely closer to Nurse.
There is no way Huntress is bottom Tier.
I would actually put Freddy at the bottom, I do not find him a strong killer the only thing he has going for him is gen teleport.
I would put Plague higher as well, definitely higher.
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Why would it have been free?
What precedent is there that it would be free? Absolutely none.
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It's a good idea, but you need be extra careful not to lose your Distortion charges.
That's a pain in the butt.
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@Bravo0413 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/690153#Comment_690153
Swf > everything..... if the team is competent you may get 1 with tier3 compared to what you can get in a normal game.... when played correctly GF is solid and even if hes unable to get stalks off he can still use his shroud at loops to get hits when you normally cant..... myers always has that red light and will always get shown the sights around the map because he has nothing for the chase even in tier3.
Myers doesn't need to do anything fancy at Tier 3. He will win chases just give him Bamboozle and Brutal Strength (or Spirit Fury/Enduring) he will just keep coming and catch you no mind tricks needed.
Myers also has a lot more variety in how you can play him with his add-ons. Someone said T1 Myers is crap but T1 Myers with M&A and Scratched Mirror is the awesome sauce.
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Global Expose is huge.
In late game you can finish off an entire crew of survivors and snatch victory from the jaws of defeat with a proper Tier 3.
Ghost Face can't do that without NoEd.
Camping a survivor when the exit gates are open can result in a wipe if the survivors get outplayed and try for the save.
This is impossible for Ghost Face.
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Rituals. I am still getting tons of Killer Rituals. I play survivor mostly because it takes too long to lobby for a killer.
I am not impressed.
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There is no single bad match. I have had tons of matches where I got found by the killer accidentally in 10 seconds then camped and dead on first hook.
The worst thign in DBD is getting into a string of bad matches over and over. It happens. My record is 11 straight bad matches where I either get caught and die within a minute, or mori'd, or tunnel camped, or farmed by my teammates, etc.
That's what hell in DBD is like.
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I mean yeah if I have mirror that's the best. I honestly don't spend too much BP on killers though so my Myers arsenal is very limited.
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As Myers? My favorite way to play Myers is with Monitor and Abuse and stay in Tier 1 all game.
I just like sneaking around and screwing with survivors.
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@FireHazard said:
I mean, Freddy is now a Trapper Killer so... Its kind of fitting that this is what the turnout of his rework boils down to.
Traps in-general are and should be treated as just a bonus for aiding in loops and chases, if the Killer is basically a M1 Killer you shouldn't really be distraught about your traps being wasted... Although that doesn't mean the chases won't be harder to end of course...
If you're just aware of spacing, lengths of lunges, and overall mechanics of chasing as a Killer... than you'll probably be fine? Depending on if its a solo or SWF team I guess? It all really depends on the Player and Survivors routes they take...
I find Freddy a little closer to Hag than Trapper, and to Doctor for that matter.
Overall what I hate about Freddy though is the severe framerate drop of the Dream World. I realize people with good PCs have no issue with this, but peasants like me find it really problmeatic. It's why Freddy is my most hated killer right now.
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No Mither.
I just love this perk. I love not leaving blood trails all over the place.
The only thing I'd change with it... probably bump the injure sounds reduction up to 100% at Level 3 and get rid of the injured music. I already know I'm about to kick the bucket anytime, no need to remind me....
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Ah I see, carry on and congrats!
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@Rin_is_my_waifu said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/689397#Comment_689397
Why should a rarely used add on be nerfed? I really don't get survivor mains
Also what about insta heals? Don't they need a nerf? They are broken af
Are you the same kind of person who says Ebony Moris are good for the game?
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What is PS4 Platinum?
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@NoShinyPony said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/689161#Comment_689161
He is an absolute new player without any perks. You are 4 survs with nice perks (don't know about SWF) + 3 toolboxes. This guy never had a chance.
This post just says "look how we beat this perkless new player". If you want to show us something impressive, show us how you outwitted a skilled high rank killer.
Actually he isn't.
A newb wouldn't be able to score 22k like that on a loss. You are reading way too much into this.
A newb also wouldn't have zero perks. A real newb would have one perk equipped. Try thinking a little before posting. You are just seeing what you want to see without actually thinking it through.
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It looked like a good match to me. Everyone got out but everyone scored big. Even the Wraith pipped from that match for sure.
But well, what can I say, Wraiths tend to be the biggest campers in this game, even more than Leatherface.
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Would prefer a nerf or remove from game altogether to be honest.
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DCs are tracked for banning. If they do it too much they will be banned. Don't worry your little head over it.
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Chase music was already reduced a long time ago.
There's no pleasing some people.
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@savevatznick said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/689350#Comment_689350
yeah that's what I'm saying. RN it punishes efficient killers vs bad survivors in additiom to being a good antitunnel perk. Making it go away once there is a separate hook removes the invincibility it grants.
"punishes efficient killers" maybe it's the game's way of telling you to slow down and stop kill-rushing.
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"These Gens are getting done too fast this isn't fair."--- how exactly are new players running into this problem? A new killer at Rank 20 isn't going to have a legion of rabid genrushers bullying him at Rank 20.
This is the rank when killers are hunting down potato survivors who are hiding in the corners of the map crab walking.
"Lol I've said this once and I will glady say this again. Stranger Things isn't enough to save this game, and it's facts"The game strictly speaking is in no danger and doesn't need saving. The number of players playing is relatively stable. You can check Steam Stats to see that the playerbase hovers around 18k-ish and that's been consistent for the past couple of years. It's not in any danger of dying out any time soon.
Those are the real facts.
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"At the end of the day, at the top end of the game, a killer is stuck punishing survivor misplays in order to win. You can force a survivor to misplay with mind-games, good map pressure, intimidation and other methods. SWF has the added layer of strength in that it can help to forgive any survivor missteps or bad plays. And this is on-top of all the other benefits that come from it."
Is this some kind of mantra that Killer Streamers are promoting? It seems everyone here is singing this tired old line like it's the truth, but it's not. Survivors can play perfectly well and still be punished by a good killer.
Those who doubt this, have drank the Kool Aid and are just blaming the game for their inadequacies.
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@DocOctober said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/689464#Comment_689464
I prefer the wording of "Slightly decreases the Chainsaw's charge time" over "Decreases the Chainsaw's charge time by 12 %".
They'd also have to reword several hundred descriptions for Unlockables for this, simply because of how the English language structures its sentences and the same would probably be true for all other languages. That's just an amount of work that isn't worth it.
That's just bad programming on their part. They didn't build it right from the start. Well, they think of it this way. Why give the valeus ourselves when our dedicated team of unpaid wiki maintainers are doing it for us?
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@DocOctober said:
The current way allows the devs to change around values without having to change descriptions as well.
And while I do spend a considerable amount of time researching those values, I do prefer the adjectives over mere values, some values would also make little sense to people who don't understand how they are calculated in the code.
@Rivyn said:
How long would it take to change values in a description? Once it's done for all, and a change needs to be made, a few minutes at most?
You can actually just put a variable in the description which refers to the actual percentage values, so anytime you adjust the values it automatically adjusts in the perk.
Goes to show how lacking the programming skills are.
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There's too much aura reading and info perks for killers in this game. This is the wrong direction to take the game IMO. Survivors need ways to stealth to provide an alternative to the much hated looping playstyle.
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Why are you starting a rank reset thread when you seem to hate them?
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@DocOctober said:
I've played nothing but Ghost Face tonight and I got Borrowed Timed countless times even though I had Night Shroud active. I wonder why it works in your case, but often didn't in mine.
You doing something wrong dude, BT is 100% hard countered by Ghost Face (and Wraith for that matter).
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@altruistic said:
Well just because 2 gens pop doesn’t make the hatch appear.. There are conditions involved..
Number of Survivors alive + 1 are the number of gens required to reveal the hatch.
People with flashlights generally waste a lot of time. I called it Survivors Ruin when I played Killer consistently.
I can attest to this. Flashlighters tend to waste time stalking the killer so they can go for the perfect save.
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Most of the time people who bring keys work on gens. From my experience, and as a key bringer myself.
Fully-Immersed survivors are very rare outside of yellow and gray ranks.
I play with Bond so I can tell.
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Every killer says they don't use BBQ for Aura Reading (even Billies, lol) but BBQ helps you in a lot more ways than you think, even if you downplay it.
It's frankly disgusting how dishonest killers are about this.
And yet when anyone suggests nerfing the Aura Reading on BBQ none of the killers are open to that idea.
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@Mister_Holdout said:
I'm not really terrible at anything with regard to DbD.
I can play all the killers reasonably well. Although, Doc is probably my weakest killer.
And I can play survivor at rank 1 level, which includes looping.
Get outta here you don't belong in this thread!
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@StupidPallets said:
I personally dont understand the point of the loop. My main course of action is to just get away from the killer. lol
Juking is good but sometimes you're not in a good juke spot so looping is the better option. You should learn both.
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As Survivor I'm terrible at looping and I bump into stuff all the time (which is why I'm terrible at looping). I'm also lousy with great skill checks.
As Killer I'm terrible at following in chases because... I keep bumping into stuff.
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@Gardenia said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/689271#Comment_689271
I use premonition, yet still, it's broken af.
Premonition is junk tier compared to Spine Chill, try using Spine Chill instead.
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@NoShinyPony said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/688139#Comment_688139
Do you think that the majority of players doesn't want to play a fair, balanced game?
You do realize that the majority of players aren't the upper 1% you want to balance the game around, right?
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@NoShinyPony said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/687736#Comment_687736
Who claims survivor is hard?
There are people who say playing Low Rank Solo Survivor is hard and hell.
As you can see Kilmeran himself seems to be under that impression, hence why he says, "Wish me luck" and some people in this very thread have attested to such.
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Would actually like to see this, the perk is a great one IMO just gets demolished against SWF.
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@Warlock_2020 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/687328#Comment_687328
Seriously, what are they going to give Jason beyond a machete?! Have you watched the 13 plus movies? I have seen them all. No super power here, just keeps coming and swings a machete. M1 all the way. The ignorance is in not understanding the source material.
Obviously you haven't seen all the movies, because you are not aware that Jason had super powers. Ever since he became Zombie Jason he started getting all sorts of weird powers. There was a time he could even hypnotize and possess people to eat his flesh, then jump from body to body.
So no, he is not just "keeps coming and swinging a machete."
Don't act like you know the movies when you clearly don't.
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@Dwight_Fairfield said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/688035#Comment_688035
All maps on Mcmillan are good for survivors? Shelter Woods says hello.
Hahah ok except for Sheltered. I hate that map too. And it feels so small to boot even though it's kind of big.
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So the reason why the game has becoming brighter and brighter... is to discourage players from using NVidia to overbrighten the game? :D
Hahhaha.
Anyhows. I'm not gonna be a hardass. Anyone can brighten their game if they want. It's their choice. I don't agree with it, but I'm not going to stop anyone from doing it. I find it a strange inconsistency in BHVR's game design and philosophy.
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@Sauceman_Tim said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/688118#Comment_688118
WOW. Again another survivor main misunderstanding the WHOLE point of my post. Congrats survivor you actually made your argument based on the assumption the killer is trash at the game and that's why we hardly ever win against SWF
If you're not winning against SWF you are kinda bad at the game.
Not all SWF are god commando squads. If you can't win against SWF you are just not as good at this game as you think you are. Leave the ego at the door and look at the game objectively.
As for what is going to be done about SWF?
It's clear as day the Devs are supporting it 100% and even sanctioning it. The new Party feature thing in the upcoming patch will institutionalize SWF even further. It's clear that BHVR wants to encourage everyone to SWF.
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@MemberBerry said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/688031#Comment_688031
I wonder where you read me calling flashlights OP, I specifically said for BM-ing purposes. Also I'll happily trade my ebony mori (not ivory tho), noed and haunted grounds for your toolboxes, instaheals, keys and ds
That's a deal, I wish the devs would do it.
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Isn't that more EAC doesn't check it, but technically it still goes against the TOS.
Regardless, there's no denying someone who is brightening the game with third party software is getting an unfair advantage that you normally shouldn't get in the game.
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@BloodyNights said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/687855#Comment_687855
This basically sums up my thoughts exactly. You can use any killer even at rank 1, and through skill at least average 2-3k every game if not more. There will be the occasional bad game, but it isn't the majority. And yes I also can't stand watching people like Tru3 complain. I'm sitting their watching them, hearing them just spout out such salty comments, while 4king several matches in a row with different killers each time. And I'm like bruh...do you even realize how many games you've just completely wrecked all of these survivors since I've been watching? They are all running meta perks, and attempting to gen rush. But they are dead now....calm down.
This precisely.
You see "good killer" streamers who are destroying survivor SWF teams like nobody's business, and they still whine and complain. What, seriously??
You people need to look beneath the surface. These are STREAMERS. They are professionals who make money by attracting viewers. When they are destroying the enemy team and still whining, either they are a.) The True Scum of Humanity or b.) toeing the line as a streamer to get you invested in their cult of personality and subscribe to their stream. Neither are worthy of your time or respect.
Don't be sheep people. Think a little. Streamers overdramatize and sensationalize things and make it an "us vs. them" story because making things bi-partisan is a great way to get followers (and thus money). Politicians do it all the time.
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@NoShinyPony said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/687771#Comment_687771
I mean that you see this game not objectively enough. You think that it is not that bad for killers and that killers who complain just need to git gud. You think that a skilled killer will win because of his skill. That's not the reality.
So I suggest that you start playing killer on a regular basis. If you experience something first-hand, this will broaden your horizon and make you see things differently.
I've played killer enough. I don't go up to Rank 1, nor do I care to. I can kills survivors if I'm better than them, and I don't when they outplay me.
I do not see your point.
It seems to me you're just being brainwashed by killer streamers who want more buffs for themselves and more nerfs tos urvivors.
People should stop watching streamers, they are bad for the video game community. They turn people into screaming ballistic sheep.
Seems to me you're the one not seeing the game objectively, if you're actually believing the nonsense "good killer streamers" spew.
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Sorry I don't read the Survivor's Handbook for how Potato Survivors should Play.
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Would love to get into a game with 4 shirtless Davids.
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So they are doubling down on SWF?
Strange direction to take the game, unless they start fixing the solo survivor experience with buffs (like making Kindred and Bond baseline). Then they can start balancing killer with this new normal.
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Is it that important in the chase? I'd imagine the only time this would come into play is in a chase and you'd have to be slowvaulting to do it. I'm not the best looper so I didn't know people were slow vaulting doing chases and getting a huge advantage out of it.
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Camaraderie is already there to discourage face camping. It just needs to be worked/buffed a bit to make it fulfill its destiny.
This stun perk is too abusable too powerful in my opinion.