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  • @RotBb said:
    So we already know that kindred trumps killer’s abilities, but what about when it’s base kit? Will it still trump insidious and tier one Myers? 
    Also, if survivors are getting kindred as base kit, can we killers get thrill of the hunt base kit, just without the bloodpoint bonus?

    Devs will most likely drop the idea of builtin kindred, otherwise they have to implement a killer AI at the same time such that survivors still can play the game :wink:

  • What did we learn?
    Dont play on console :lol:

  • @Vortexas said:
    Most of the killers I've faced are usually willing to swap hooks for gens.

    The vast majority actually. A handful just wanna play normal games that's fine. Haven't ran into a Gen camper yet.

    Gonna start my killer grind tomorrow. Figured I'll play normal games, but if they wanna farm it's tit for tat.

    You sabo an event hook though you get a campin.

    How is it even possible to camp multiple gens? I will never understand.....

    And if you talk about the last gen out of 5 cocktail gens, you will live without it too lol

  • I want the event to end as soon as possible tbh. One day and im fed up with all the toxicity already

  • @thekiller490490 said:
    Every time you hit the following ranks for the first time in a season you get the following rewards. 

    15:50,000 BP, 500 shards

    10:100,000 BP. 1000 shards.

    5:200,000 BP. 2000 Shards

    1. 300,000 BP, 3000 shards.

    Total rewards for the full season. 650,000 BP, 6500 shards. Make ranking up worth it. 

    Reward for keeping rank one. Gain 100 premium currency every 5 games rank one is kept.

    First they need to fix the matchmaking system

  • @pandorayr said:
    Marth has left playing because the developers they scold him for making rush-gen with friends, is so stupid to say "don't repair so fast" first fix your game, they can not hide the sun with a finger.

    Its like literally "dont play optimally, let the killer have a chance too" but on the same time they refuse to balance the game, just ridiculous.....

  • @maximus909 said:
    Oh palease!!! I've gone up against some amazing killers that knock off survivors like shooting fish in a barrel. Marth88 just needs to put down the Double Western Cheeseburger when playing DBD killer. Developers just gave all killers a bump.... yet Marth88 still can't win against survivors? He should maybe go back to Friday the 13th.

    Classic survivor main, heres nothing to see for you

  • @Mesme said:
    So have any of you gotten any of the event cosmetics yet? I know I haven't... Kinda hard at times because of DS and how far hooks spawn. While on the survivor side dealing with campers on the special gens but all and all if I keep at it I'm sure I'll get them.

    Use agitation and dont be afraid to slugg, thats my advice.
    Oh and you should dodge lobbys with more than 2 toolboxes.....

    I will never understand how it is possible to camp multiple gens though^^

  • @powerbats said:

    @Master said:

    A crash in the loading screen already doesnt count as normal DC, so it shouldnt be affected by the system anyway. Ultimately it happens so rarely that I think a 5 min timer would be fine, assuming that it triggers the system.

    I know the game crashes frequently, but I would prefer having to wait 5 min after the crash instead of countless games ruined by ragequits, I assume you think the same, do you?

    And if you face a hacker you shoudl be fine to DC and wait a few mins since you dont usually DC, right?

    I usually wait a few minutes after a crash just to be safe the same way in other games. I think a game crash after another game crash should implement a lobby timer at least. So if you crash and then play another game and crash you should have a lobby timer wait. On pc it should require a game cache integrity check., not sure how the consoles handle it.

    As far as dcing goes no I generally don't do that and only started doing it recently but it's still pretty rare overall. Out of may'be 1k game sor so don't know how many probably no more than 10-15 games and all within the last month.

    I just wish they'd finally get dedicated servers setup since that'd solve so many problems all at once. You'd have hackers disappear pretty quickly, ping issues could be solved. The people who quit rather more often than would be normal get nailed automatically etc.

    Dedicated servers wouldnt do anything against hacking and in order to automatically punish DCs, you dont need dedicated servers either

    in DCing Comment by Master
  • Slow down gens.... thats the main problem

    Just played a game where I actually caught the first surivor quite fast, but still others powered through ruin and poped 2 gens

  • I think its the only reliable counter against genrush.
    If survivors dont genrush, they wont even notice theres been NOED.

  • @powerbats said:
    The issue is that the game on pc crashes during loading screen and you either get an error message saying what happened or none at all. There's the can't move bug that still hits people and the solutions don't always work. I've had friends internet or pc reset during loading screen or in game in match.

    I've been in games as both killer and survivor where the game just blows up and either crashes me to the desktop and says nothing. Sometimes it'll say error code x etc as the reason but most times it's nothing. So you can't even send in an error report for debugging.

    The quits in game are frustrating since I've been Pig and Trapper on some amps and people load in and instantly bail. They'll also do that on 1st hit, 1st down or 1st hook etc and that can lead to a chain of them. I always try and let the survivors farm at that point and farm myself as well which is easier now with the rank 15 buffer. (I'm taking it easy this season not really trying to do anything other than farm and try out different things as killer)

    I used to never rage quit but now that' I've hit rank 1 I've actually done it a few times when faced with a hacker or toxic killer I had the same Legacy Nurse with wall hack and aimbot straight matches. I know she was hacking and aimbotting because she'd start the match and automatically blink right to a survivor who she never knew was there and couldn't have seen.

    She also had the legacy skin given out on Nov 24, 2016 but the account wasn't created until June 2017 so they used the hack to give themselves everything. I also recorded video from spec mode and watched her glide across maps and nail people she had no way of knowing were there.

    She even would fully charge blinks with 2x less accuracy addons yet her blink for the 2nd hit would magically stop and turn and change angles to hit the survivor. I just started quitting on her as did solo queue people because they didn't want to reward the jerk.

    I don't like the rage quits but can understand them as well when it's a toxic killer or survivor.

    A crash in the loading screen already doesnt count as normal DC, so it shouldnt be affected by the system anyway. Ultimately it happens so rarely that I think a 5 min timer would be fine, assuming that it triggers the system.

    I know the game crashes frequently, but I would prefer having to wait 5 min after the crash instead of countless games ruined by ragequits, I assume you think the same, do you?

    And if you face a hacker you shoudl be fine to DC and wait a few mins since you dont usually DC, right?

    in DCing Comment by Master
  • Its a window, you can jump through it and literally the same way the killer can lunge through the window.

  • Slugg him, if he doesnt want to take hatch, then he will die on the floor :lol:

  • @BlackHack said:
    For people how don't care about his leaving the game , i understand and respect that, but you can't ignore the fact that he leave due to some solid point need to be worked on, the devs will saw it and there respond will be, nope throw another dlc.

    Survivors managed to ignore the depip squad experiment and nullify the stats by saying "this is not hwo a normal game looks like" or sth like that.
    I have lost hope tbh, let everyone deal witht he ######### as they want. Devs will buff survivors next patch to heaven and I hope that enough killers stop dealing with this such that the remaining survivors can play 4vs4 and clickat each other faces

  • @Oreneta said:
    In this event I have faced, at the moment, against 6 killers, and the 6 have camped.
    It is an event that favors campers who have no other way to win or score points.
    It is a shame of celebration. I do not celebrate the 2nd Anniversary.

    Sorry for my english.

    A killer camps => do the gens and escape. During the event you are even granted with bonus BP for doing gens
    Where is the problem? I dont understand

  • I have literally seen 1 killer using tinkerer 2 so far. No idea why you guys cry so much and even if he uses it, its no big deal at all.

    Killers had to deal for several months with the sound issues btw

  • @mcallisterbritt said:
    _**I don't know what it is about the events it really turns most of the Killer into Total Dick Bags.... They think they have to Camper the Gen or try to keep everyone off the special BBQ gens **_

    Well as killer you need to stop the genrush somehow. And survivors focus really hard on the gens during the event.... you understand?

  • @samirk98 said:

    @Master said:

    @samirk98 said:
    0 point and lose of 3 pips is already punishment

    Apparently its not enough punishment

    so do u have any suggestion?

    1st DC 5 min queue bann
    2nd DC 15 min queu ebann
    3rd DC 40 min bann

    etc etc
    Let the timer reset after an appropiate time or number of matches palyed

    Thats the system almost every competitive games uses (sometimes they even bann you completely from ranked for some time), I dont see why it shouldnt be applied to DBD

    in DCing Comment by Master
  • @BillyIII said:

    @Master said:
    I have never seen a company pushing out patches with as many bugs as BHVR (at least not counting all the early access stuff)

    You must've not played Awesomenauts. Their PTB players had to test THE CHANGELOG. Because it contained stuff that was not pushed, and did not contain stuff that was. Oh, and they have gotten an inside joke (it was a literal "if char A is damaged by char B with skin C, he is killed" condition) into the testing build at least once.

    No I didnt^^

  • @samirk98 said:
    0 point and lose of 3 pips is already punishment

    Apparently its not enough punishment

    in DCing Comment by Master
  • @lyric said:
    Master said:

    @lyric said:

    Master said:

    @Nickenzie said:
    
    I feel like if you DC, you'll need to wait 5 minutes before you can join another lobby. However keep in mind that sometimes it's the games fault for the DC because the game has kicked me out during the loading screen multiple amount of times before! :)
    
    
    
    Sure "somtimes".... 99% of the ingame DCs are ragequits
    
    There needs to be an incrasing punishment for several DCs
    

    You’re right and majority are rage quits, but there are a few cases where mine has blue screened in game if my app is left open, like when I leave and just hop back in without restarting the app hours later . One time I got a message from a 3 SWF and killer because I was in a chase , lost the killer and was walking up to a gen to help work on it and it blue screened. Survivors thought I was trying to spectate for the killer for some reason and the killer thought I was scared of his ivory mori but never was damaged lol , I think there should be a punishment for rage quit but for something out of your control or tech wise you shouldn’t get punished 

    I never bluescreened in DBD.

    However, as you said, if it happens at all, then it is really rare and the time you need to restart your PC and get back into DBD should be around 5 minutes, which is the time punishment for the first DC in other competitive games. This time would increase if you DC regualrly

    I play on PS4 is why it was a bluescreen, it’s common when a app is open for hours on end in the background and you just pick right back up at the menu instead of restarting, I agree with a time punishment for DC but if we’re going that far then there should also be a certain ping rate requirement to be able to start a game and if you lobby dodge from a clean good connection you deserve your time ban. People say they shouldn’t be forced to play with  SWF  or flashlights but the devs claim they want survivor mode based around that even in solo, to have that team connection without speaking and items are apart of the game you’re not good if you dodge a item , so would you include killers and survivors in that rule for lobby dodging along with dc?

    its literally impossible to introduce ping requirements as long as the game is P2P. You need dedicated servers for that. Till we get those (never) we will have to adjust pings by dodging.

    The difference with lobby dodging is that you can easily create a new game and nothign was lost. DCing ingame however is acompletely different story, you lose all offerings, a lot of time and even addons as killer.
    Also it ruins the game for the reamining survivors.

    Sure, it would be the ultimate goal to make lobby dodging punishable too in a ranked game (just like MOBAs where you actually lose elo if you dodge during selection), but at the moment we are miles away from making that possible, one step at a time

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  • @PinkEricka said:
    HillBilly is not superior, Leatherface is. HillBilly can only chainsaw one survivor while Leatherface can chainsaw multiple survivors at once. 

    They both have their ups and downs. I personally think instadowns are fine. I mean, we survivors have insta-heal so it’s fair.

    However, I don’t think there are going to be any more killers with chainsaws. 

    Not sure whether to laugh or cry

  • Nah doesnt show enough skin.... :wink:

  • @Shipthebread said:

    @feffrey said:
    Lets talk about Leather Face and why are their two killers with the same ability . HillBilly is far superior with his chainsaw but they both require almost no skill to use.

    Stopped reading here, OP is a salty survivor clearly.

    Wow, I am actually already so used reading ######### like this that my brain automatically filtered the "no skill" out :lol:

  • @feffrey said:
    Lets talk about Leather Face and why are their two killers with the same ability . HillBilly is far superior with his chainsaw but they both require almost no skill to use.
         So why are there two killers with the same ability to begin with why was Leather Face brought into the game?  Not complaining or anything just curious .
        Do you think the instant down is fair or should be reworked into giving the hit survivor server bleeding and prevent them from being healed for 30 secounds. I mean I like this more honestly they're more then likely to lead you to other survivors this way.

    Are we more likely to see more killers with the same ability this coming up season ?

    Leather Face does have some great perks probably the only reason to even play him is for Franklin Demise

    Billy and leatherface ability are not the same #########

    And no, leatherface is pretty weak already, no need to nerf him any further and make him freddy 2.0

  • @ChesterTheMolester said:
    Oh, i didnt do it on purpose. Idk how that happened

    The forum is a bit weird

  • @lyric said:
    Master said:

    @Nickenzie said:

    I feel like if you DC, you'll need to wait 5 minutes before you can join another lobby. However keep in mind that sometimes it's the games fault for the DC because the game has kicked me out during the loading screen multiple amount of times before! :)

    Sure "somtimes".... 99% of the ingame DCs are ragequits

    There needs to be an incrasing punishment for several DCs

    You’re right and majority are rage quits, but there are a few cases where mine has blue screened in game if my app is left open, like when I leave and just hop back in without restarting the app hours later . One time I got a message from a 3 SWF and killer because I was in a chase , lost the killer and was walking up to a gen to help work on it and it blue screened. Survivors thought I was trying to spectate for the killer for some reason and the killer thought I was scared of his ivory mori but never was damaged lol , I think there should be a punishment for rage quit but for something out of your control or tech wise you shouldn’t get punished 

    I never bluescreened in DBD.
    However, as you said, if it happens at all, then it is really rare and the time you need to restart your PC and get back into DBD should be around 5 minutes, which is the time punishment for the first DC in other competitive games. This time would increase if you DC regualrly

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  • The game is so fast paced that you sometimes dont even get to use your mori.... think about that :lol:

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  • @Nickenzie said:
    I feel like if you DC, you'll need to wait 5 minutes before you can join another lobby. However keep in mind that sometimes it's the games fault for the DC because the game has kicked me out during the loading screen multiple amount of times before! :)

    Sure "somtimes".... 99% of the ingame DCs are ragequits

    There needs to be an incrasing punishment for several DCs

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  • @SoulKey said:

    @Master said:

    @SoulKey said:

    @Master said:
    Yawn im geting tired of these threads
    Facecamping has been removed ages ago....

    Are you sure about that ? Oh well, i am glad you don't know about how it's done then, less facecampers.

    You can still bodyblock survivors away from the unhook? Show videoproof pls

    You can block the unhook prompt, i get a couple of them daily "ummm russsians". I don't have a video proof and no time to do it really, but i am not the only one aware of that..

    No video proof, then it never happened.
    Guess those russians have been cheating because I am not able to bodyblock away from unhookign anymore

  • @samirk98 said:
    yeah what about [BAD WORD] ######### killers who camp lunar gens
    mehh [BAD WORD] them both

    Probably one of your mates saboed a hook.....

  • @se05239 said:

    @Master said:

    @Laakeri said:

    @Master said:

    @Laakeri said:

    @Master said:

    @Laakeri said:

    @se05239 said:

    @Nickenzie said:
    I really REALLY feel like the developers should at least talk to some of the streamers that play both survivor and killer regularly if they don't play their own game.

    Heh. The only ones that the developers listen to are the survivors review bombing their game in protest over small changes.They seek to keep the majority happy.

    It's some nice wishful thinking though. Streamers who actively play both sides should be listened to. It'd be amazing if @not_Queen, in her community manager role, could reach out to most and ask them to make a list of the things they like the most with DbD and the things that they dislike the most.

    Good players are in fact in touch with the devs about the balance. OhTofu is one them, but Tru3 is not cuz well, if you play this game enough you actually know he is not that good of a player, he is good streamer, but mediocore player.

    Yeah he is mediocre because he refuses to play tactically, but at the same time playing tactically is considered toxic by survivors..... its kinda funny tbh

    Using Thanatophobia or Ruin on m1 killers instead of Enduring and tries to Bloodlust on safe pallets & Jungle Jyms. He even respects pallets when he uses Enduring and gets looped for 5 gens cuz of that.

    Also all Survivors that are half capeable (not r20's) are SWF for him.

    Thats not refusing to play tactically, its pure stupidity and ignorance.

    I watch him from time to time too and I suggest you do the same before insulting him like this :wink:

    I too used to watch him and Hexy in 2016 and thought these guys are best killers ever! Why else these guys would have +1k viewers if they are not the best, right?

    Then I actually started to play this game myself for more than just dailies and realized they are actually not that good.

    While its true they are still better than 95% of the players, but not as good as people think.

    Yes thats because views are gained by entertaining the viewers and you need to do more than just playing optimally.

    I'd say that Truetalent is better than most streamers out there just because he's willing to not play optimally, if viewed from an overall standpoint, as he constantly needs to adapt to situations and such.

    Well playing non-optimally makes him indeed a worse killer, at least from a gameplay perspective^^

  • @SoulKey said:

    @Master said:
    Yawn im geting tired of these threads
    Facecamping has been removed ages ago....

    Are you sure about that ? Oh well, i am glad you don't know about how it's done then, less facecampers.

    You can still bodyblock survivors away from the unhook? Show videoproof pls

  • @Orion said:

    @BillyIII said:

    @Orion said:
    I see the results compare it to my own experience with programming, and it doesn't make the devs look better or worse.

    Yeah. New patch is out. Oops, we have accidentally entered "0" instead of "10" for tinkerer 2. But let's release a "hot"fix after 2 weeks. I mean, this is either some very ######### spaghetti code or a complete indifference. And you can't say they were "thoroughly testing" it either, because they obviously do no such thing.

    Yes, that's a common mistake and easy to overlook when double-checking your code. It's no different from a typo.

    No, they probably didn't test every single combination of every single perk, because that'd make updates impossibly long. I've never seen a company push out a single patch that didn't have a single bug, ever, but maybe I'm wrong, maybe the people complaining about patches having bugs (which is normal if you've ever done any programming) are perfect programmers whose code never needs any debugging.

    I have never seen a company pushing out patches with as many bugs as BHVR (at least not counting all the early access stuff) and even some early access games do a better job. Whats straightout ridiculous is the time it takes them to fix these bugs, killer sound and huntress truck hitboex being an example

  • They should separate console frmo PC servers at least. This way only 1 platform crashes at a time

  • @popoles said:
    @Master
    Are you one of those guys who scream "OH My Gawd, this game looks awful!" whenever they see a low anti-aliasing? All games I play on my Xbox one S (Alien Isolation, Skyrim, Elite Dangerous...) look beautiful. I wouldn't say they are THAT low in performance.

    Resolution, how much fps?

  • @Judgement said:

    @Master said:
    Mhm thats interesting
    Guess they are milking the DLCs now since the game has become f2p on PS

    The game isn't free-to-play - it's only free for PSPlus holders this month. If you hold a PSPlus subscription, you get the game for free so long as you sustain your subscription.

    @Master said:
    Just one question, if you can play DBD on PC, why would you purposely suffer on PS?

    In a way I suffer more on PC sometimes because I have frequent drops despite having the lowest settings. I'm on a Toshiba Satellite Pro laptop.
    That's not to say I always suffer - very few maps, and one specific killer give me frames that average below 30fps, and that's Doctor. I heard he's also nasty on console.
    Also I want to stomp some noobs lmao.

    Yeah but most PS users have that subscription, at least from my experience

  • It would be interesting to know the prices for the XBOX DLCs, anyone knows?

  • @Orion said:
    Isn't it because Sony takes a larger chunk of the money than Steam? Still, that's gotta suck for console players.

    I highly doubt that sony takes that much.... its literally almost double the price :lol:

  • Mhm thats interesting
    Guess they are milking the DLCs now since the game has become f2p on PS

    Just one question, if you can play DBD on PC, why would you purposely suffer on PS?

  • @brokedownpalace said:
    @Master
    No thanks. I'd rather choke on glass. ;)

    Aha ok, guess we agree then ;)

    But yeah.... optimization is bad on all platforms^^

  • @Tizzle said:

    @Orion said:

    @Tizzle said:

    @Orion said:

    @Tizzle said:
    How they didn't see the massive influx of players from PS4 overloading their data servers because of it being free is beyond me.

    I mean, SERIOUSLY????

    Another one magically knowing what the problem is.

    Were there any problems before this?

    It doesn't take a geniuos to figure out what is going on.

    It's not like there was an update to the game or anything, so your baseless speculation must be right, of course.

    .........

    Yeah the update caused connection errors.

    Have you not played this game since release or are you a complete idiot?

    Because it frequently happens, its ok? :lol:

  • @Tizzle said:
    How they didn't see the massive influx of players from PS4 overloading their data servers because of it being free is beyond me.

    I mean, SERIOUSLY????

    Well devs cant see the imbalance of the game either..... :wink:

  • @brokedownpalace said:
    LOL @ calling consoles low performance. Nice bait.

    Bait?
    You get what you pay for :lol:

    And Id like to see you arguing with me that consoles are not low-performance machines compared to gaming PCs :wink:

  • @Tizzle said:
    This has happened ever since the game became free on PS4.

    I'd guess their data servers are completely overloaded right now, how they didn't see this as an issue...no idea.

    Yeah but who could have known that the servers will be stressed when the game becomes basically f2p on PS4. You dont have to be a genius for that

  • @Raccoon said:
    Couple with I-Frames on unhook, I for one look forward to their new umstoppunst head start of I'm near them and they get unhooked. 

    Not camping/near the hook?
    Marvel as they SB away in the opposite direction, guaranteeing a team/self-heal. 

    To be honest, kindred will be a way bigger impact than that.

  • But seriously now. DCing needs to be punished like in any other compettive game.

    First DC - 5 min queue bann
    Second DC - 20 min
    Third 45 etc etc

    Reset that counter after an appropiate time/number of matches

    It really is not hard to implement that, no idea why devs are so ignorant such that we have to deal with DCing so much

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