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You have to be aware that the game is full of kids living in their moms basement....
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@Tizzle said:
Connection error has been persistant for 20 hours now, apparently they go home at 10am according to you?
Orion is a white knight defending the devs, you better ignore him
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@KillingInstinct said:
@1Handirl said:
This is what it's like as a solo q'er R1 Survivor on PC.
I got a black pip and was killed = I Win. -Very Common
I got 1 pip and was killed = I Win. -Very Common
I got a black pip and escaped = I Win.
I got 1 pip and escaped = I Win. -Common
I got 2 pips = Obviously I Won for sure. -Rare
I didn't get any pips = It's OK. I got tunneled, face camped, or roam camped (term I made up for when the killer just roams around a hooked person around 30-40 meters away which leads to tunneling)... all good... Won't happen next game so I can get back to R1. -RareThis is what a R1 killer game looks like on PC.
I start a game, get pallet looped by every single survivor -Very common
I start a game, survivors don't know how to loop -uncommon
I start a game, survivors loop and gen rush and tbag and I lose a pip -every 5th match
I start a game and after catching one survivor 2 gens are left to repair -normal game
I start a game and 4k it because the survivors have no map knowledge at rank 1 -almost every survivor rank 1Imagine if it wasnt as easy to pip as survivor.... playing killer at rank 1 would be literally impossible because you get shredded every match by optimal survivors.
Not sure if that was actually intended by the devs, but if they did it was a genius move. Padd the survivors shoulder that they won, at the same time hide the unbalance by sending bad survivors to rank 1.
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@Countfunkular said:
To me that one hurt should just been natural add-on for killer but to be fair certain kill us like the doctor most certainly don't need it because it would just be overpowered if it was just passiveA perfect skillcheck is supposed to mean something. In the reality if you rlly concentrate you can easily hit perfect skillchecks as a NORM (maybe not with unnerving madness, I agree).
And before you come witht he ruin argument, its a hex.....
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So you only get random perks that you havent unlocked via teachable if you are in bloodwebs below 50? Witht he amount of perks that would mean that you have to use lvl1 perks....
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@Confused_Senpai said:
@Master said:
Surviors disconnect on an hourly basis and you worry about killer DCs?
The last time a killer ragequited on me was in june I believe.Not sure whether you actually depiped, there is a displaying bug that shows it as depip but you dont actually depip. And even if you did, rank is meaningless anyway.
I did actually lose a pip and it wasn't a bug, regardless of who leaves or disconnects the issue still needs to be addressed. Having a killer dip out on you just because they're salty only for you to be punished for THEM rage quitting is a tad unfair.
Yes thats unfair.
Its unfair if survivors DC too, killer even loses addons and offerings and gets 2,5k BP for all 4 survivor DCing. How is that fair? -
@Runiver said:
The medium vault has been purposely introduced to handicap survivors.
It used not to even exist back then. They actually added objects and such in front of several vaults to force survivors to medium vault through it rather than fast vault (example Ironworks vault)It's, intended, and it's okay like that.
Just a pity that there exists the 360ing exploit and you can do a fast vault anyway
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@CallMeRusty420 said:
@deadwolfwalking said:
Yeah. They're fixing it. They're installing Kindred into base kit and nerfing bloodlust. Genrushing should be ALOT easier soon.Wait seriously? If so that's utter bs.
Sadly it was no joke
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@theArashi said:
Nothing helps catching survivor looping big building with LF as less speed with BL... oh wait, you won't catch him because you lose chase mid way throuch.
Currently only way to actually get a hit is to actually get BL3.Yeah and BL3 will be the current BL2 soon, so ......
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@CallMeRusty420 said:
Title says it all.Look at the latest Q&A. By implemented built in kindred they increase time effiecency of survviors even further, makign the genrush even faster.
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Surviors disconnect on an hourly basis and you worry about killer DCs?
The last time a killer ragequited on me was in june I believe.Not sure whether you actually depiped, there is a displaying bug that shows it as depip but you dont actually depip. And even if you did, rank is meaningless anyway.
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@Laakeri said:
@Master said:
@Laakeri said:
@Master said:
@Laakeri said:
@se05239 said:
@Nickenzie said:
I really REALLY feel like the developers should at least talk to some of the streamers that play both survivor and killer regularly if they don't play their own game.Heh. The only ones that the developers listen to are the survivors review bombing their game in protest over small changes.They seek to keep the majority happy.
It's some nice wishful thinking though. Streamers who actively play both sides should be listened to. It'd be amazing if @not_Queen, in her community manager role, could reach out to most and ask them to make a list of the things they like the most with DbD and the things that they dislike the most.
Good players are in fact in touch with the devs about the balance. OhTofu is one them, but Tru3 is not cuz well, if you play this game enough you actually know he is not that good of a player, he is good streamer, but mediocore player.
Yeah he is mediocre because he refuses to play tactically, but at the same time playing tactically is considered toxic by survivors..... its kinda funny tbh
Using Thanatophobia or Ruin on m1 killers instead of Enduring and tries to Bloodlust on safe pallets & Jungle Jyms. He even respects pallets when he uses Enduring and gets looped for 5 gens cuz of that.
Also all Survivors that are half capeable (not r20's) are SWF for him.
Thats not refusing to play tactically, its pure stupidity and ignorance.
I watch him from time to time too and I suggest you do the same before insulting him like this
I too used to watch him and Hexy in 2016 and thought these guys are best killers ever! Why else these guys would have +1k viewers if they are not the best, right?
Then I actually started to play this game myself for more than just dailies and realized they are actually not that good.
While its true they are still better than 95% of the players, but not as good as people think.
Yes thats because views are gained by entertaining the viewers and you need to do more than just playing optimally.
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@Laakeri said:
@Master said:
@Laakeri said:
@se05239 said:
@Nickenzie said:
I really REALLY feel like the developers should at least talk to some of the streamers that play both survivor and killer regularly if they don't play their own game.Heh. The only ones that the developers listen to are the survivors review bombing their game in protest over small changes.They seek to keep the majority happy.
It's some nice wishful thinking though. Streamers who actively play both sides should be listened to. It'd be amazing if @not_Queen, in her community manager role, could reach out to most and ask them to make a list of the things they like the most with DbD and the things that they dislike the most.
Good players are in fact in touch with the devs about the balance. OhTofu is one them, but Tru3 is not cuz well, if you play this game enough you actually know he is not that good of a player, he is good streamer, but mediocore player.
Yeah he is mediocre because he refuses to play tactically, but at the same time playing tactically is considered toxic by survivors..... its kinda funny tbh
Using Thanatophobia or Ruin on m1 killers instead of Enduring and tries to Bloodlust on safe pallets & Jungle Jyms. He even respects pallets when he uses Enduring and gets looped for 5 gens cuz of that.
Also all Survivors that are half capeable (not r20's) are SWF for him.
Thats not refusing to play tactically, its pure stupidity and ignorance.
I watch him from time to time too and I suggest you do the same before insulting him like this
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Maybe next week
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@Orion said:
@Master said:
Devs were to incompetent to realize that once their game becomes f2p on PS, there might be more stress for the servers. So they didnt prepare for that..... better get used to that if you plan playing DBDAh, so you've diagnosed the problem already, without even having access to anything on the devs' side? You must be quite the programmer.
Devs give us no information so we can only speculate.
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@RSB said:
Survivors got their swivel hooks, so they can unhook from all angles, but why killers can't hook from all angles? Why the killers can be bodyblocked and totally unable to hook the survivor?
inb4 "REEEEEEEEE JUST HIT THE SURVIVOR, PROBLEM SOLVED" - yeah, [BAD WORD] you too, it never works, because when you hit the third surv, the one on your shoulder escapes.Survivors also keep their addons and items when they escape, so why the killers are not able to keep theirs?
Double standards are real.
The real reason is that killers are only a 2nd class player. You better deal with that or switch to survivor /another game. The latest Q&A has shown that thsi will never change
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This is beyong ridiculous if we were talking about another company.
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Devs were to incompetent to realize that once their game becomes f2p on PS, there might be more stress for the servers. So they didnt prepare for that..... better get used to that if you plan playing DBD
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@Orion said:
@Master said:
@Orion said:
Because an issue doesn't get solved in 12 hours or any other arbitrary timeline you draw up. It'll be fixed when it's fixed.There are indie studios way smaller than BHVR who deal with this problems in a few hours.
That something like this REGULARLY happens during events is just a joke.Do you have any idea the sheer number of things that can cause any one issue? Sometimes an issue is easy to solve, sometimes it's not.
I can only speculate about the reasons cuasing these kind of issues. However I guess it takes so long to fix because DBD is a spaghetti code most likely....
I only see the results and if I compare those to other games...... doesnt let the DBD devs look good tbh
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@Hillbilly420 said:
@se05239 said:
Most of the time, apart from Not_Queen, it's clear that most of the developers don't play their own game and are completely oblivious to the things that's happening inside it. Old examples would be them calling killers to "get good" for complaining about looping and such.So here I come with a pretty unorthodox balance suggestion to Dead by Daylight, the developers need to have an actual play session as part of their job where they're forced to play Killer. Be it only for 2-4 hours, it'd help greatly towards them understand all the faults that Dead by Daylight suffer from.
Any opinions?
"Just break the pallet." Is another example.
Good idea but what will happen is that they'll just play against rank 20's and think everything is honky dory. They need to play against rank 1 Survivors and see what hell really is like.
Simply let them face a squad of experienced streamers and they will show them how broken the game is. Worked pretty well in the asian twitch event too
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@se05239 said:
@Nickenzie said:
You should watch Tru3ta1ent and Marth88, they both play killer and survivor. I only listen to them about what's really wrong with the game because they experienced both sides equally so their feedback will be worth listening to.I watch a few streamers myself, Tru3ta1ent being one of them, but they're still heavily biased. Marth88 knows firsthand how insanely broken a SWF squad is and Tru3ta1ent often express how frustrating it is to play killer. I still don't think you should put streamers on balance duty.
Well since marth actually proved how broken the game is....... also it is quite frustrating to play killer
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@Laakeri said:
@se05239 said:
@Nickenzie said:
I really REALLY feel like the developers should at least talk to some of the streamers that play both survivor and killer regularly if they don't play their own game.Heh. The only ones that the developers listen to are the survivors review bombing their game in protest over small changes.They seek to keep the majority happy.
It's some nice wishful thinking though. Streamers who actively play both sides should be listened to. It'd be amazing if @not_Queen, in her community manager role, could reach out to most and ask them to make a list of the things they like the most with DbD and the things that they dislike the most.
Good players are in fact in touch with the devs about the balance. OhTofu is one them, but Tru3 is not cuz well, if you play this game enough you actually know he is not that good of a player, he is good streamer, but mediocore player.
Yeah he is mediocre because he refuses to play tactically, but at the same time playing tactically is considered toxic by survivors..... its kinda funny tbh
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@Rush_b_naked said:
Just let Twitchstreamers get involved by balancequestions.
Why is it so hard ? They play the game 12 hrs/ day.
They know all the issues !Thats not a solution, they might give ideas but devs need to build their own opinion.
DS was a perk designed by the community btw, but considering that 80% are survviors, thats not rlly surprising. -
In my opinion the killer should be able to push survivors slowly away.
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@Orion said:
Because an issue doesn't get solved in 12 hours or any other arbitrary timeline you draw up. It'll be fixed when it's fixed.There are indie studios way smaller than BHVR who deal with this problems in a few hours.
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@RSB said:
@Might_Oakk said:
She takes literally 0 skill to play. You don't even have to mind game since she can just put down a trap.I've just 4kd 8 games in a row at r1 while barely paying attention. Probably the easiest character to play and 2nd strongest.
Kinda silly.
Mind game? Like pallet looping is a big mind game? Give me a break.
How can you mind game in this game, when the survivors have 3rd person POV, can see above some walls, like haystacks, killers have a [BAD WORD] flashlights in their eyes, so survivors always know where the killer is looking?
And Hag is okay.
Some survivors still make me smile with their ignorance.
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Too bad I took a break from DBD after some toxic shitheads saboed my hooks.
Wasnt able to logg in back since then...... pretty good job so far -
@ThirdSealOPplzNerf said:
Strange how when I play star wars battlefront 2 with explosion everywhere ######### tons of laser ships flying around [BAD WORD] emperor Palpatine shooting lightning my fps never drops and it's so smooth but in dbd where all I see is my weapon and ability the fps is minus 90000.You cant compare a company like EA to BHVR. Also you shouldtn forget that DBD was designed for PCs in the first place and even there we have FPS problems, this is due to the bad coding of the game in general / bad optimization and ofc on a low performance machine its not gonna be better^^
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I know, it happens sometimes to me too because I play solo survivor usually.
But as killer bodyblocking is a lot more frustrating and happens more frequently
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@Der_Schatten said:
Survivors arent the Only one being "Toxic"... in my opinion: a Camping and tunneling Killer is Toxic aswell. Its not "Surv" or "Killer" ITS the DBD Community... ist just full of Cancer and angry people... they only care about them self.SAD...
A killer trying to do his job and please the entity is toxic.
Sad indeed
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@IronWolf115 said:
If it was JUST BL3 then I probably wouldn't mind too much, but because it is 1&2 it worries me a lot more. Maps like Haddonfield are gonna SUCK ( which it already does tbh. )OFc a map with potential infinite sucks. But even with the old "good" BL systems, those infinites exist.
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@Visionmaker said:
Just grab Sabotage and spam/sabo the hooks.Chances are the killer will tunnel and facecamp the saboteur so the rest of you can finish the gens.
And this is exactly the reaosn why gens are camped
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@Glossed said:
Is anyone else facing killers who over protect event gens? They leave a chase just to stop the person on the gen. I am not mad or salty I am just curios if anyone else is having the same problem..Sabotage my hook and I will camp your gen, thats an easy deal
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@Der_Schatten said:
... Weird to see...
Killer mains in the 2.0/2.1 Patch sad: Oh, stop crying about Surv. Nerfs...
Killer mains now cry about a litte Killer Nerf and a Surv. buff...BTW that kindred thing is a really big Nerf to Camping imo... 4 me as a BBQ Wraith, i dont care about that buff. 4 me about a Surv. I love it, cuz it will finally Conter All thos camping noob Killers
Kindred doesnt do anything against camping. The radius where the killer is shown is really small, just camp outside of it.
The reason why the change is sor idicuousl is that survivors can always 100% see each other and coordinate unhooking. Thats literally insane, no more time wasted for several guys trying to unhook etc
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@Twix said:
@Master said:
@Twix said:
@Master said:
@Fabyoulust said:
You get tons of killers camping and focusing the special generators and you get tons of survivors who will stop at nothing to prevent the killer from getting a special hook either by Sabo or blocking.Can we please just have an event where each hook or each gen counts towards a goal? When your hook is halfway across the map or you can't get a special gen because of a camping killer it ruins the fun of this game.
Some people are hell bent on attempting to ruin other peoples fun.
As killer I do the same as always. I try to stop survivors from doing the gens. Not my fault that they only concentrate on the special gens, then I have to concentrate on them too and kick them.
Survivors sabotaging the special hooks however is just plain toxic
It works both ways. If you're gonna be guarding a gen and kicking it to not let survivors get it, why should survivors let you get special hooks? The hypocrisy in your statement is quite real.
The difference is that trying to protect gens which almost has been completeted is somethign a killer would do without the event too.
But sabotaging is somethign that is never done by survivors because its not viable anymore, they just do it now to take away the special hooksSays who? I've seen my fair amount of hook saves by sabo Gods. Your statement is full of hypocrisy.
Point. Blank. Period.Fair amount? Can only talk about my own experience but it probably happens in 1/30 games that someone sabotages a single hook. During the event every 2nd game hooks are destroyed left and right
But hypcrisy, yeah.....
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@pauloandrade22 said:
@dannyfrog87 said:
@Master said:
By the way, when I go afk deranking, I have games that easily take over 30 minutes with survivors tbagging and clicking at an afk killer (I still have no idea why they do this, maybe they grow their epenis like that?), but when I actually try playing killer, the game is over in 5 minutesno clue i alt tab put music on tab back in minutes later pointing at me doing the emotes tea bagging moving round in a circle. the entity if their at the gate and the vines come up or whatever if they dont leave should grab hold of them pulling them out or something if no ones left inside hooked. simple. it would stop them doing it
When i go afk i place my character in a corner facing the wall. BAM 15200k points denyed to the survivors.
When I go afk I just stand in the middle of nowhere. BAM 8k BP for doing nothing.
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@Envees said:
@TheHourMan said:
TrooperStorm said:Im stil not geting in.. have tried for like 20 min now.. It's so Unfair when other ppl can play and some other can not play. I hope devs make this event more time.
I hate when im not can play i game i like.
Life is unfair. The devs are working hard on it and let's just hope they get it solved within a couple hours
Problem is that this keeps happening on a regular basis. This has been the case for me since i started teh game over a year ago. You figure it might get fixed by now?
People are saying this is a steam issue. I dont think so. Steam are not that incompetent to put vital match making servers in maintenace for days at a time. This is squarely on the devs shoulders and they have not learned yet how to fix this.
But hey, those expensive cosmetics sure are nice eh?
Steam has nothing to do with that. Thats completely BHVRs fault. The problem is that everyone keeps throwing money at them, if you want sth to happen then you need to close your wallet
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@DepravedKiller said:
@thesuicidefox said:
@DepravedKiller said:
DS and NOED are part of the game and most likely here to stay however with that being said they may need to be adjusted/tweaked. I will leave that up to the devsExplain to me how being "part of the game" makes it acceptable? Infinites were once part of the game. Instant-fix BNP was once part of the game. Tinkerer 2 bug was part of the game (until today). SWF is part of the game. Stacking purple mist is part of the game.
Just because it's "part of the game" doesn't automatically make it okay.
Infinites were survivors using obstacles in the game to create a never ending running loop. The obstacles are still in the game but were as i said adjusted.
BNP is still in the game and was tweaked to make it less powerful however still part of the game
Tinkerer 2 was an unforeseen bug that they fixed but the perk itself is still part of the game.
Thus making all of these acceptable by design. However due to player feedback on fun and enjoyment around these perks is when the devs decide to change them.
You can still do infinite loops at some maps with the correct RNG
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Are you surprised? Its BHVR were talking about
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Low performance machine => low performance
Even on PC the fps arent that good
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Sadly no.
There was the possibility to use nvidia freestyle, but it isnt supported anymore with the new drivers.Now I just have to DC when survivors use dark light or too much mist. Cant play a game where I cant see.... its sad
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@Twix said:
@Master said:
@Fabyoulust said:
You get tons of killers camping and focusing the special generators and you get tons of survivors who will stop at nothing to prevent the killer from getting a special hook either by Sabo or blocking.Can we please just have an event where each hook or each gen counts towards a goal? When your hook is halfway across the map or you can't get a special gen because of a camping killer it ruins the fun of this game.
Some people are hell bent on attempting to ruin other peoples fun.
As killer I do the same as always. I try to stop survivors from doing the gens. Not my fault that they only concentrate on the special gens, then I have to concentrate on them too and kick them.
Survivors sabotaging the special hooks however is just plain toxic
It works both ways. If you're gonna be guarding a gen and kicking it to not let survivors get it, why should survivors let you get special hooks? The hypocrisy in your statement is quite real.
The difference is that trying to protect gens which almost has been completeted is somethign a killer would do without the event too.
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Now imagine if you would lose your stuff after every game..... how stupid would that be
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@feffrey said:
This Hex is bar far on of the greatest but it is easily worked around simply by Tapping the button to repair the Gen.
Doing so will by pass any skill check and ignore the effect of Hex ruinA Tool Box by passes it as Well which is intended I guess
But my point is .....Simply tapping the interaction button repeatedly to repair a Gen shouldn't be a thing
I'm a survivor main and see this as a exploit to cheese the killer
Sure it is the killers fault for not patrolling Gens
And not catching survivors fast enough but you have to admit this is cheesingTotally agreed and it completely counters the unnerving strat too
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@Fabyoulust said:
You get tons of killers camping and focusing the special generators and you get tons of survivors who will stop at nothing to prevent the killer from getting a special hook either by Sabo or blocking.Can we please just have an event where each hook or each gen counts towards a goal? When your hook is halfway across the map or you can't get a special gen because of a camping killer it ruins the fun of this game.
Some people are hell bent on attempting to ruin other peoples fun.
As killer I do the same as always. I try to stop survivors from doing the gens. Not my fault that they only concentrate on the special gens, then I have to concentrate on them too and kick them.
Survivors sabotaging the special hooks however is just plain toxic
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@Might_Oakk said:
She takes literally 0 skill to play. You don't even have to mind game since she can just put down a trap.I've just 4kd 8 games in a row at r1 while barely paying attention. Probably the easiest character to play and 2nd strongest.
Kinda silly.
Highly doubt that, proof or it never happened.
You also have to be aware that most survivor have no clue how to play against hag because she was a dead killer before. Ive noticed that they slowly adapt and if they dont trigegr your traps while unhooking or bring flashlights.... rip
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By the way, when I go afk deranking, I have games that easily take over 30 minutes with survivors tbagging and clicking at an afk killer (I still have no idea why they do this, maybe they grow their epenis like that?), but when I actually try playing killer, the game is over in 5 minutes
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@AshleyWB said:
The biggest problem with a concede button is that killers will decide screw this team and ragequit and still keep thier stuff they earnt. Its not the answer. End game standoffs should have it so after a period of time survivor auras are revealed and killer can force them out or kill them.That is the point of a concede button. accept your loss and proceed to the next game
The real problem in DBD is that a concede doesnt hurt you because rank doesnt mean ANYTHING at all.
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Survivors know how easy it is to pip and even if they dont, there are no consequences because rank doesnt mean anything.
It is all about BP and you farm those by throwing yourself at the hook.I noticed that after several games of survivor I get so bored of it that I do weird ######### too. You sit all game on gens holding M1 (I even start stretching during gens now) or you run in circles.
When a game is so easy to play, ofc players will gonna do weird #########Dont feel bad for killing them. Thats the job and if you dont do your job, the entity will fire you eventually
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Guess nurse killrate is so low> @Grimzy said:
@DarkGGhost said:
@Grimzy you are surr main right ?Well lets say im survivor main. I havent really played this game for long i will admit that and idk i find playing killer a bit stupid, its not for me. I managed to get to rank 12 just by doing what actually contributes. Asside giving killers the runaround because i suck at that.
Basically before thi patch, it was kinda like 50/50 whether my party escaped or not. Now nearly every match it wound up dead. At least 1-2 people die within the first 5 min of the match. Then you even have people running the glitched tinkerer, bitter murmur....you see what i mean? I get that kilers should be a bit stronger, but looking at this objectively as possible killers are already soo buffed up, and people still cry more.
I can give credit to a good killer when i see one, but most people just whine to buff killers because they suck at their own game.Try ranking up a bit further than rank 12. Then you will understand maybe